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waffy

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« on: 05-04-2005 17:59 »
« Last Edit on: 05-04-2005 17:59 »

Ok, I'm really sorry.  I don't mean to spread rumors, but this really caught my eye more than other ones, and I think I should share it.  I'm assuming nobody has seen this yet, since it's relatively recent and I'm sure there would have been discussion about it:  http://ninjapirates.net/?p=10

 
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I spoke to Matt Groening tonight. Yes, THE Matt Groening!

He told me that there will be TWO Futurama movies coming to DVD!

He didnít mention a date but he said he had the scripts at his hotel room.
He also mentioned that since Family Guy had tried to do the same thing he was hoping it would get the show back on the air.

So... At first I didn't really believe this guy at all, for obvious reasons, but he actually has a picture up of (supposedly) him and Matt Groening.  Of course, I'm sure it could have been some random other person in the picture, but having something like that seems to give the claim more validity.

Claims he was at the Time Magazine 100 Most Influential People party that was held at the same place where this kid worked, so he got a chance to speak with Groening.  Obviously, great news if this happens to be true.  The only question is, should we believe it?  And if it's true, how long until the whole thing is announced...?

I'm not sure yet if I believe this, but just wanted to see all of your takes on it.

EDIT: So, this article was apparently taken from the somethingawful.com forums.  I would definitely check out the topic on there but it's in the TV forum which doesn't appear to allow non-members in.  So, if anyone has an account at SA (which costs money, btw), maybe you could search out the topic and see if the guy said anything else about it.
mint

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« Reply #1 on: 05-04-2005 18:04 »
« Last Edit on: 05-04-2005 18:04 »

If it's true that's great! .

Whenever the release date is in the U.S., where I live it would be much slower, because by the law here everything must be translated.
hail_futurama

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« Reply #2 on: 05-04-2005 18:07 »

A futurama movie?! I can hear the angels singing! I hope that (if it is true) it will have a Zoidberg centered plot. Is the waht-if-machine going to turn off now? (Do not insult me on my vomit-inducing jokes.)
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #3 on: 05-04-2005 18:16 »

But on DVD only? I don't believe that part. If it is true, then Matt would push for it to be released in theaters. And I would think that Futurama would come back if this is true, being that I don't think Fox would pay for two movies to be made only to DVD when they could make more money by making more shows. If it is true, then the show is coming back for sure(at least in my book).
killbot4000

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« Reply #4 on: 05-04-2005 18:59 »

I don't know about 2 but maybe 1 movie.This could be true bcause Matt's only chance to bring back futurama is to make a movie bcause seth from family guy was going to do that he was going to make a movie to bring back family guy but he canceled the movie bcause it already came back.Futurama movie unlikey don't get hopes up.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #5 on: 05-04-2005 19:03 »
« Last Edit on: 05-04-2005 19:03 »

^I'm not so sure about that (directed at I.C. Weiner).  While I'm sure Groening would love to do a theatrical movie (and I'd love to see it....imagine seeing the characters on the big screen!), the fact is that this is a somewhat cult show, and Fox might not want to push for a theatrical release if they felt they had a good chance of losing money making it (and it would be very possible).  Plus, if the first one flopped financially (which would be less likely on dvd with a smaller budget), it could prematurely kill the second.  Again, I'm sure Groening would prefer theatrical, but I think if he had a choice between doing two direct to dvd films, and not doing any at all, he'd go with the former.

As for this.....I'm not sure I buy it, but it does seem credible enough to at least consider.  Everything he says about Groening seems to check out in terms of what we know about him.  Hopefully this is true, as I would love to see it happen.
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #6 on: 05-04-2005 19:05 »

If you notice that post on that website, they get it from a forum. You might want to check the forum out too, just to make sure that it's not a hoax.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #7 on: 05-04-2005 19:11 »

Come to think of it, if this is true (and believe me, I hope to death that it is), how guarded might this info be?  Did Groening get careless in sharing it (meaning that if you asked anyone else, they'd be forced to say it wasn't true), or would, perhaps, e-mailing David Cohen reveal it to be true?  Perhaps asking Billy West?
Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #8 on: 05-04-2005 19:15 »

Bullpies!
j_ohanley

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« Reply #9 on: 05-04-2005 19:24 »

...second.

Still, here's hoping.

*Brannigan salute*
killbot4000

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« Reply #10 on: 05-04-2005 19:27 »
« Last Edit on: 05-04-2005 19:27 »

If it is true they wouldn't put it at theaters bcause they haven't even done that to family guy or the simpsons.He said then his beautiful girlfriend and I smoked a cigarette in the stairwell.That sounds to good to be true and how do you know the guy in the picture is Matt it might be some guy who looks like him.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #11 on: 05-04-2005 19:37 »

The guy in the picture is definitely Groening.  The real question is whether the picture comes from somewhere else, or if the guy on the right really is the one that posted that.
Venus

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« Reply #12 on: 05-04-2005 19:40 »

Oh my God, the fangasm i would have if that turned out to be true.
Ranadok

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« Reply #13 on: 05-04-2005 20:01 »
« Last Edit on: 05-04-2005 20:01 »

 
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
The guy in the picture is definitely Groening.  The real question is whether the picture comes from somewhere else, or if the guy on the right really is the one that posted that.
You can't trust the guy on the right, he has evil red eyes.  Clearly a demon of sort. C'mon, look at his devil-beard! 

Anyhow, as much as I wish this to be true, I'll be filing this under 'unfounded internet rumour' for the time being, unless something more substantial surfaces (someone trustworthy contacting MG or DXC, or a legitimate news source story, or something like that).  I'll be hoping, though, as I'm sure everyone else here will be.
Zmithy

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« Reply #14 on: 05-04-2005 20:09 »

Hmmm. Matt groening just has a girlfriend? I thought he was married.

I'll be watching and waiting, nothing more. I'm not gonna cream myself over this unless I find a trailer for it hidden away in that new dvd.

Also, pictures where everyone has black clothing are quite easy to photoshop, but... I'd say that's a genuine, recent photo. Doesn't give any weight to the guy's rumour though. I'm not biting  no no .
waffy

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« Reply #15 on: 05-04-2005 20:20 »

 
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Originally posted by i_c_weiner:
If you notice that post on that website, they get it from a forum. You might want to check the forum out too, just to make sure that it's not a hoax.

Yeah, the board it was from is a members-only one, and it costs money to register.  But a friend of mine goes there and checked it for me, and it's a real post.  I don't know if the guy who posted it said anything else, but most of the replies were like these ones.  As in, "god, I just hope this is true."

 
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Originally posted by Zmithy:
Hmmm. Matt groening just has a girlfriend? I thought he was married.

Interesting point, but luckily I just did a google search and apparently Groening's wife filed for divorce back in 1999.  So perhaps him having a girlfriend right now isn't so odd afterall.

That helps a little bit, but unfortunately we still can't tell how true this whole thing is.  :/
killbot4000

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« Reply #16 on: 05-04-2005 20:21 »
« Last Edit on: 05-04-2005 20:21 »

I just looked at the picture again and i noticed that the suit and the bow tie are photo shoped done so its fake theres no movies.
I noticed it from what Zmithy said.
waffy

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« Reply #17 on: 05-04-2005 20:35 »

Erm... No offense, but how do you know for sure that they're Photoshopped?  You seem pretty sure about that.  :P
killbot4000

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« Reply #18 on: 05-04-2005 20:40 »
« Last Edit on: 05-04-2005 20:40 »

The black isn't really its like photo shop black and the tie looks retarded and look at how the white meets the black the backround is really but the suit and the tie is fake i could be wrong.Someone who does photo shop look at it.How is the suit the same colour of the door.
Venus

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« Reply #19 on: 05-04-2005 20:48 »

I remember someone around here having either DXC or MG's email address. Fastest way to prove/disprove this rumor is to ask.
Futurama Nerd

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« Reply #20 on: 05-04-2005 20:49 »
« Last Edit on: 05-04-2005 20:49 »

We shouldn't get our hopes up. I really hope that there is a movie. And can you imagine if there were 2? I'd be so happy, and think of the publicity for Futurama! Someone, go investigate! Now!

edit: ^Ya, someone does have DXC e-mail address. Come out from hiding you!
killbot4000

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« Reply #21 on: 05-04-2005 20:54 »
« Last Edit on: 05-04-2005 20:54 »

At the bottom of the page it said Question is, do you believe it?And if i'm right the photo shop was well done.
waffy

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« Reply #22 on: 05-04-2005 20:57 »
« Last Edit on: 05-04-2005 20:57 »

I'm not sure if we'd get any sort of response from emailing him.  I guess we could, but I'd probably bet that we'd never hear from him.  I dunno, it's worth a try anyway.     wink

Anyone from CA going to the Billy West signing this weekend?  I'm sure he would be aware of whether or not something was up, if anyone got a chance to ask him.

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At the bottom of the page it said Question is, do you believe it?

Yeah, that line wasn't part of the actual post by the original person.  It was copied from somethingawful.com, and the person writing the blog in this link was the one asking if you believe it.

Also, I still don't see anything convincing revealing that it's definitely a photoshopped picture.  I know it could be, but to me, the suit and bowtie look fine.  And the suit actually isn't the exact same color as the door...  If you look closely, the suit is a little darker shade of black.  But still, I'm not expert on the stuff myself.
killbot4000

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« Reply #23 on: 05-04-2005 21:02 »

I could be wrong but it sounds to good to be true there have been so many rumors about a futurama movie and for it to be 2 movies he would have to use alot of money.
Nasty Pasty

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« Reply #24 on: 05-04-2005 21:17 »

This story is Bunk! Bunk I say!

Although I wouldnt mind it at all...  wink
futz
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« Reply #25 on: 05-04-2005 21:58 »

It takes about 9 months to produce a Simpsons episode from script to airing. To make a Futurama anything staff would have to be hired, etc. etc. Movie run times are about 4+ times TV episodes. It will be a while yet before we get to see anything if it is true. I think that if it is, at a certain point there wouldn't be any reason to keep it a secret. We'll see I hope.
j_ohanley

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« Reply #26 on: 05-04-2005 22:06 »

David X. is always really great at replying to emails, especially whenever a rumour has any kind of backing. Not only will a reply come, but it will be quite funny as well.

If this does turn out to be true (about which I'm skeptical, but very hopeful nevertheless), I hope they are two self contained films that could also form a large story, like the first two Supermans and Aliens. I hope they're not completely unrelated or totally dependant on each other.
waffy

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« Reply #27 on: 05-04-2005 22:47 »
« Last Edit on: 05-04-2005 22:47 »

Oh, nevermind my skepticism of the email idea then.  Sounds great, I'm glad to hear that he replies to them.  So... who has his address?

EDIT:  Searched other threads, and it looks like the address is davidxcohen@aol.com.  Anyone willing to ask him about this?   smile
winna

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« Reply #28 on: 05-04-2005 22:54 »

I think although this sounds wild and outrageous... it does have some validity to it.  Also, there could be some mix-ups in what is going on.... it's quite possible that there aren't 2 Futurama movies coming down the pipeline, but that something definitely is.  Anyways I don't see a need to worry, also I'm quite sure that picture is not photoshopped; besides the guy making the claim would have no need to photoshop a picture of somebody standing next to Matt Groening, he could easily obtain one off the internet somewhere.  On another note, having such minute details in the story (such as hanging out with Matt's girlfriend), seem to lend a shade of truth on the whole thing.  At any rate we'll find out within the next 8 months what will become of our dearly beloved show.
Spacedal11

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« Reply #29 on: 05-04-2005 23:22 »

To quote Farnsworth, "Bull pies!"
DotheBartman

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« Reply #30 on: 05-04-2005 23:52 »
« Last Edit on: 05-04-2005 23:52 »

 
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Originally posted by futz:
It takes about 9 months to produce a Simpsons episode from script to airing. To make a Futurama anything staff would have to be hired, etc. etc. Movie run times are about 4+ times TV episodes. It will be a while yet before we get to see anything if it is true. I think that if it is, at a certain point there wouldn't be any reason to keep it a secret. We'll see I hope.

While this is true, I would point out that Simpsons/Futurama episodes were/are produced at the same time as multiple other episodes. Episodes airing at the end of The Simpsons' next season are already recording now, while the remaining episodes of this season are also still being tweaked, not to mention all the episodes in between at different stages of production.  While a movie takes more work, its actually probably less material then Futurama was producing at any given point during its production (what takes a lot of tv-to-movie adaptions extra long is that the filming/animation will typically be much more advanced, and that the script is usually worked on longer to get it right, though the former wouldn't be an issue on a straight to dvd release).

Oh, and I guess I'll e-mail Cohen....I mean, why the hell not, right?
Andy1234

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« Reply #31 on: 05-05-2005 02:54 »
« Last Edit on: 05-05-2005 02:54 »

i'll ask billy from the forum, has anyone else checked that out yet,Click Here To View It AS Somebody Else Has Created A Topic On This.

(by the way Billy West sometimes replies to the topics)
DrThunder88

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« Reply #32 on: 05-05-2005 02:56 »

If there were Futurama movies in the works, that would be the greatest thing to happen to me in my life.  And that is really sad.
SlackJawedMoron

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« Reply #33 on: 05-05-2005 02:57 »

Uh-huh.
Zoidberg227

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« Reply #34 on: 05-05-2005 03:01 »

Uh, call me a party pooper, or whatever you will, but didn't we totally debunk this a couple weeks ago?  I explicitly remember the claim that this guy talked to Matt Groening (yes, the Matt Groening) and that he had scripts in his hotel room.  I'm about 103% sure that this is fake.
Venus

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« Reply #35 on: 05-05-2005 03:06 »

i thought the rumor debunked a few weeks ago was about there being scripts for episodes that had been written before the show was cancelled.
kip
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« Reply #36 on: 05-05-2005 03:26 »
« Last Edit on: 05-05-2005 03:26 »

   
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Originally posted by killbot4000:
The black isn't really its like photo shop black and the tie looks retarded and look at how the white meets the black the backround is really but the suit and the tie is fake i could be wrong.Someone who does photo shop look at it.How is the suit the same colour of the door.

Ello!     big grin

It's not a photoshop, but then... who knows if that's actually the guy in the picture.

Firstly, one thing to look at isn't the color of the door that matches the suit. That is a result of angle and ambient lighting at the time of the flash, black tends to absorb light rather than reflect it... anything black under flash tends to look the same color.

More importantly, have a look at the enhanced image and notice that the two people blend perfectly, I found no trace of a blur tool or saw-tooth (common when amateurs cut and paste two items together). There are no traces of a "heal" tool either, which tends to discolor the surrounding area slightly.

The other thing to look at is the highlights and shadows, both Matt and the dude have highlights on their glasses that point to more or less the same source. But harder to fix would be the shadows, and both are projected from the correct angle (more or less).

If I was going to use anything to pick this image apart, it would be that the guy has red-eye, but Matt does not. Typically in a photo, if one has it, the others do too. But, this can be argued against eye-pigmentation, and of course what kind of coating their glasses have, plus what other lighting was present... maybe somebody was weilding a lightsaber in the background at an angle only the guy could see.

Anyvay.... here's the lightened picture... Clicky!

My thoughts about this article: don't even speculate about shit that isn't officially published. That's what journalists and publicists do, they go out there and debunk all this stuff so you don't have to.

Who knows, even if everything he said was real... maybe Matt was drunk off his head.

Oh yah, and when the guy mentions "and then his beautiful girlfriend and i shared a cigarette in the stairwell"... ahahah    laff like... "geekboy's first encounter with a woman". That line has absolutely no relevance to futurama at all. What a loser. "dude! i totally shared a cigarette with Matt Groening's woman... in the stairwell. HOW STUDLEY AM I!?!? OMGLOL!!!111"    laff

henyway....      roll eyes
Zoidberg227

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« Reply #37 on: 05-05-2005 03:30 »

Venus: Well, I just checked back about 5 pages in ontopic, and found that one ... it might have been the same one I was thinking of.  Either way, I'm not optimistic.  I'd be more likely to trust something from Moviehole than this.

Kip: your link's b0rked.
waffy

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« Reply #38 on: 05-05-2005 13:12 »
« Last Edit on: 05-05-2005 13:12 »

 
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Originally posted by kip:
Oh yah, and when the guy mentions "and then his beautiful girlfriend and i shared a cigarette in the stairwell"... ahahah      laff like... "geekboy's first encounter with a woman". That line has absolutely no relevance to futurama at all. What a loser. "dude! i totally shared a cigarette with Matt Groening's woman... in the stairwell. HOW STUDLEY AM I!?!? OMGLOL!!!111"      laff

henyway....        roll eyes

Heh, that didn't really seem necessary.  The post obviously wasn't only about Futurama, but the guys experience as a whole that night.  I don't think anyone said "no, you're not allowed to tell us about that part since it's not Futurama-related!"  And it also doesn't mean he's a nerd who's never seen a girl either; I think MOST people would find it relatively surreal to be able to chat with Groening/share a smoke with his girlfriend.  :
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #39 on: 05-05-2005 13:18 »

I don't believe this, sorry guys. I want to, but I can't unless it's certain, which it's not. So as far as I'm concerned this news doesn't exist...
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