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DannyJC13
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OKAY, I'M STILL UNDECIDED. DVD OR BLU-RAY.
Otis, what is the quality of the DVD like compared to HD?
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Otis P Jivefunk
DOOP Secretary
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I'm not really the best person to ask as I have little experience. The DVD's are good, but if you have HD then any show made in HD will bound to be quite a lot better in HD, so might as well I'd say...
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DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
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I have HD on my downstairs TV too, but no Blu-Ray Player or PS3. And I'm not moving my PS3.
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futurefreak
salutatory committee member
Moderator
DOOP Secretary
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I'm fairly certain I don't have HD, but then again my parents are old.
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Zmithy
Professor
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I have better-than-HD on my PC monitor so nyeh. :P
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DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
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If I played the DVD in a PS3 would it be HD?
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Otis P Jivefunk
DOOP Secretary
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A DVD in a Blu-Ray player can often be upscaled, but not HD...
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DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
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*BUMP* Good news everyone! I pre-ordered Season 6A... Went for DVD.
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Otis P Jivefunk
DOOP Secretary
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One day you'll regret that you didn't get the Blu-Ray, but maybe by then the Blu-Ray will be cheaper...
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DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
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I will not regret not getting the Blu-Ray.* Because I've realised I rarely put on any of my Blu-Rays. I've always got a DVD on. * For now.
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Tachyon
DOOP Secretary
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Burned by HD-DVD, were you? j/k
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DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
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Now I know IGN is absolute shit, but this is the only info I could find on the quality of the DVD version of Season 6A.
The video looks pretty good, but has artifacting, bleeding colors, and can look over-saturated. Of course those with less than ideal televisions won't notice most of the visual bugs, but those with high-end HD set ups may be disappointed with what they see.
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Otis P Jivefunk
DOOP Secretary
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I've always thought that American NTSC looks shit compared to UK PAL anyway. The UK DVD will look better, more lines, just better. Of course the Blu-Ray will look a lot better again, but you get my drift...
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Tachyon
DOOP Secretary
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I've always thought that American NTSC looks shit compared to UK PAL anyway. The UK DVD will look better, more lines, just better. Of course the Blu-Ray will look a lot better again, but you get my drift...
Not trying to make fun of you especially since I haven't seen PAL side-by-side with NTSC in ages, but "more lines, just better."? What about the refresh rate?
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Otis P Jivefunk
DOOP Secretary
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There's various info on refresh rates on the internet, but from what I've read it seems to suggest PAL is smooth, however, there is a small shift in the pitch of the audio if at 50hz, as where NSTC displays both 24 frame/s and 25 frame/s material without any speed shifting by using a technique called 3:2 pulldown, but at the expense of introducing unsmooth playback in the form of telecine judder. I'm no expert on refresh rates, my info here is based on a a quick poke around online. It confirmed some stuff I thought anyways though...
Anyways, by more lines I meant PAL had 576 horizontal lines NTSC has 480 horizontal lines according to the source I just used. The more lines the better, it means more detail and clearer picture. Blu-Ray can be 720p or 1080p, the more the better. When I say PAL is just better than NTSC that's why I said it, PAL looks better than NTSC and having more lines helps...
I have a few American NTSC DVD's and lots of PAL DVD's. I also have duplicate DVD's of exactly the same thing in both NTSC and PAL, and the PAL ones always look sharper and much better. I've also owned an NTSC Wii and and a PAL Wii and the PAL Wii was far superior because it’s sharper, more lines again...
Obviously Blu-Ray is best though, even more lines...
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cyber_turnip
Urban Legend
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There's various info on refresh rates on the internet, but from what I've read it seems to suggest PAL is smooth, however, there is a small shift in the pitch of the audio if at 50hz, as where NSTC displays both 24 frame/s and 25 frame/s material without any speed shifting by using a technique called 3:2 pulldown, but at the expense of introducing unsmooth playback in the form of telecine judder. I'm no expert on refresh rates, my info here is based on a a quick poke around online. It confirmed some stuff I thought anyways though...
Anyways, by more lines I meant PAL had 576 horizontal lines NTSC has 480 horizontal lines according to the source I just used. The more lines the better, it means more detail and clearer picture. Blu-Ray can be 720p or 1080p, the more the better. When I say PAL is just better than NTSC that's why I said it, PAL looks better than NTSC and having more lines helps...
I have a few American NTSC DVD's and lots of PAL DVD's. I also have duplicate DVD's of exactly the same thing in both NTSC and PAL, and the PAL ones always look sharper and much better. I've also owned an NTSC Wii and and a PAL Wii and the PAL Wii was far superior because it’s sharper, more lines again...
Obviously Blu-Ray is best though, even more lines...
As someone who did a fair bit of DVD importing in my teens, I'd like to back everything Otis is saying up. I've never really looked into the specifics of it, but going on pure "that looks better than that" instincts, PAL looks much nicer than NTSC.
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JavieR
Starship Captain
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« Reply #77 on: 10-06-2011 06:14 »
« Last Edit on: 10-06-2011 06:17 »
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Ok, I took some photos comparing the DVD and HD Futurama Volume 5 resolutions in a 40'' Full HD (1920x1080) TV.Sorry for the weird angle but I used a small tripod that I couldn't put that far away... Please click for full size the images Take 1: DVD ResolutionTake 1: HD ResolutionAs you can see in the preview (and even more in the full size images), there's color bleed in the Normal DVD resolution. The wires are more detailed in the HD version. About the color.. it looks better in the DVD but that's because I used a different setting in the HD photos (I probably shouldn't have done that) Take 2: DVD ResolutionTake 2: HD ResolutionOn this one, the detail on the surveillance cameras of Planet Express look great in HD but blurred in the Normal resolution. You can see thinner borders in the drawings.. like washed out borders in the DVD resolution. Take 3: CLOSEUP - DVD ResolutionTake 3: CLOSEUP - HD ResolutionThis closeup is the biggest zoom that the camera can take.. you can see the pixels of the TV, and here you go the full detail of the difference between the two resolutions. Clearly the HD is superior than the DVD, but looking the video from about 3 meters (10 ft) away, you'll notice it less. I've yet to take photos of the 2 resolutions from 3, 6 and 10 ft (1, 2 and 3 m) away from the screen to see if there's a big difference, probably it is not a dramatic change.The quality also depends of 2 other factors: - If your TV smooths the DVD to show it kinda better (this TV kinda does that)
- If your HD TV is Full HD (1920x1080) or only HD (1280x720 or less)
Of course, with an HD TV (non Full HD) the color bleeding will be less noticeable, but if in the future you get a Full HD TV, you'll see it.. and the bigger the TV the worse the DVD will look. Technology can make the DVD look acceptable, but real TVs can't restore the resolution to be fully crisp.. CSI technology is not yet available like Zapp believes. I hope this help to make up your mind now.. DVD or Blu-Ray.. either way, we have to keep supporting Futurama!
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JavieR
Starship Captain
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« Reply #79 on: 10-06-2011 22:36 »
« Last Edit on: 10-06-2011 22:37 »
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Well, BBS would look just like the images I added.. since a DVD can't have more resolution than 640x480 pixels. Like I said, the photos were made by looking at the 40'' Ful HD TV from 2 ft of distance. If you look the DVD from 10 ft it would not be that different than the HD resolution... it all depends of the TV size, the bigger the screen, the bigger you'll notice the distortion. If you watch the DVD in a 22'' Full HD monitor (1920x1080), you'll see less color bleeding and distortion. The image is up scaled like in the 40'' TV, but the "physical pixels" are smaller so is less noticeable (but you can see the difference with HD) . If you're going to get a 40' or bigger Full HD TV, I recommend the Blu-Ray set. If you're going to watch it in CRT TV or an HD ( not Full HD TV) you probably will only need the DVD set... for now.. In the future all TVs will be Full HD (1920x1080) or even with bigger resolution ( like these LG TVs), and then, you'll probably will see the Futurama DVD sets like watching a 240p YouTube fullscreen video in a 22'' monitor. I'd like to end with a quote: Leela: Fry, you're wasting your life in front of that TV. You've got to get out and see the real world. Fry: But this is HDTV, it's got better resolution than the real world.
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