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coldangel
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« Reply #2 on: 09-12-2010 02:34 »
« Last Edit on: 09-12-2010 02:45 by coldangel_1 »
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In some of these recent fanfics, I've noticed that some people make Fry be this big huge hero
I'm guilty of that. Literary convention, as distinct from the sit-com. Not many writers (proper writers as well, not just fanfic writers) can truly adopt the pure everyman-styled anti-hero in written fiction and have absolutely no heroism on the part of a story's protagonist, especially if it's a sci-fi adventure, comedic or otherwise. Even old Arthur Dent got an heroic injection in the last Hitchhiker's movie. Basically, everybody loves a hero. Although I do still try to make Fry abysmally stupid, despite his uncharacteristic heroism.
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coldangel
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I just realized that water is blue because it reflects the sky!
Dude! What the fuck...?! You just spun me out.
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coldangel
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I only wrote one that didn't suck. And it was all reality-bending self-referential meta-fiction that contained an internal explanation for its own gritty realism (and out-of-characterness), being the imminent conversion of all Universes (including the Futurama TV show Universe, and our own real world), which also resulted in the characters noticing for the first time that they have five fingers instead of four and coloured irises instead of just a black dot in a white orb.
This is all, of course, quite insane.
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DannyJC13
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That's my 2 cents.
MORBO DEMANDS 3! And Mr. Eric Rogers wrote Issue #54 (AGAIN WITH THE ISSUE #54 KURT?! GIVE IT A REST!) and I can guarantee he is not a shipper who is mad at Leela in any way, shape or form.
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Xanfor
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I think it's insulting and degrading to have the rape of any particular set of characters played for laughs, but there was an entire Futurama episode set around that premise.
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TheMadCapper
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Fanfic is often just wish-fulfillment? Crazy!
I notice the same thing too in some professional authors' work. "And I'm gonna give him a magical sword and a shadow panther friend that he can talk to and ride and he is super hot and strong and also is magic". I'm looking at you, Anne McCaffrey and Patrick Rothfuss.
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Tachyon
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Also Andre Norton.
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Tachyon
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I was just pointing out examples of the stated behaviour, not saying that I didn't enjoy the authors because of their literary devices.
FWIW, I loved reading Anne McCaffrey, Andre Norton, Elisabeth Moon, David Weber, and others back in the day, even if some their characters were a little too noble and the various character's companions a little too convenient. Sometimes I like the good guy/girl to win in the end, with better than a Pyrrhic victory, and I can happily cheer.
Can't say that I've been drawn in very deeply to any particular fanfic so far, but I enjoy reading some of them and wouldn't necessarily be put off by a convenient plot device.
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Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #34 on: 08-10-2011 21:22 »
« Last Edit on: 08-10-2011 21:33 »
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Thread maybe old, but I just got some spare time on my hands;) In some of these recent fanfics, I've noticed that some people make Fry be this big huge hero who has to save Leela. What's up with that?
Well..the "hero saves damsel in distress plot" is just a classic. It has been parodied often, so I see no reason why it should not work with the Futurama cast. (By adding humorous elements, of course). - E.g. "A Bycyclops built for two". When Fry rushes in to stop the wedding, it's basically the "Knight in Shiny Armor arrives on this noble steed to save the maiden" scene. Just instead of a sword, he did use a bunch of infuriated women as weapons;)) - Or let's look at "Insane in the mainframe". Fry basically fought a duel against the villain, and Leela was not above giving him that admiring "My hero" look (it had a reason that "Thanks for saving us" was delivered by Leela) The emberassing part was that the hero was not mentally too sane when doing so... - Or let's look a "The Why of Fry": He sets on his quest to save the whole universe because of Leela (okay...the byproduct was the survival of a some billions of other folks;)). A deed that hardly can be topped by any hero... Also the classical "Chosen one setting"...just this time because he was his own grandfather, and unfortunately, no one did notice his deed (as already before in "Earth stood stupid"). - Or, on a smaller scale, he single handedly took down the Doomsday Machine in "D'uh Vincy Code". Unfortunately, by falling into it and hurting himself... - The showdown in "The devil's hands are idle playthings" kept really close to the classical "Damsel-in Distress" plot. To cut a long story short: When measuring upon epic tasks sucessfully completed, Fry is indeed the biggest "hero" of the crew. His only problem is that there always seems to be a catch in it: He acts really stupid, he accidently (not deliberately) performs this task, no one realises what he did, etc.. So, a "Fry as a hero rescueing Leela" plot would not be OC. As long as the writers make sure that Fry upon the sucessful completion of his task yet remains a loser, and does not really profit from it (much). And the "HOW he does so" contains enough crazy elements...
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