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M Jackson
Professor
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Professor: "Shut up all of you!"
The last decade has seen Spielberg make the most creative and fascinating movies of his career. AI is possibly the most underated/misunderstood film EVER. It's incredible on every level, and probably the best film of the new millenium!
Minority Report is a brilliant, edgy, dark futuristic thriller.
Catch Me if You Can is a wonderful, stylish, caper. I can't understand how anyone wouldn't enjoy it. It's just so entertaiing.
The Terminal has it's flaws. I think it's structure is a little messy and it could probably do with being trimed down. It's still a warm hearted, comedy that made me leave the cinema with a big grin on my face.
Spielberg is SO successful, he doesn't need to prove anything anymore. He's got his Oscar (twice), made more money than god and won the respect of...well, most people. He's now making experimental films for his own enjoyment. It just so happens they're very successful and entertaining experiments.
Bring on War of the Worlds! (how cool is this gonna be?)
As for Lucas, I love the prequels every bit as much as the original trilogy. I KNOW what a bad film is, and the prequals are NOT bad films!
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M Jackson
Professor
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Whatever. I think you'll find that A LOT of people agree with me. The Phantom Menace made nearly a billion dollars at the box office. Sure there was so much hype and marketing it was always going to make alot of money. But in order for a film to make that kind of money, people have to go and see it again, and again.....because they loved it and they want to see it more than once. Apart from jar Jar Binks who I can see why many people hate him (to be honest he doesn't bother me), I fail to see why people dislike a wonderful fantasy film with dazzling visuals brimming with imagination and fun in EVERY single shot. I saw each of the prequels 3 times in the cinema. Maybe it's my generation (i'm 19) that enjoy them and the older original fans just can't except them? If you actually read most reviews from critics now, the films are well recieved, it's just sad internet geeks that continue to moan about them. http://www.empireonline.co.uk/site/incinemas/ReviewInFull.asp?FID=4869 http://www.empireonline.co.uk/site/incinemas/ReviewInFull.asp?FID=8015
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evan
Urban Legend
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Well, I'm 21 and I can't stand the prequels. Well, "can't stand" is a bit too harsh. I was severely disappointed by Episode 1 - there was no tension, so strong antagonist role, and the plot just wandered around for way too long. Episode 2 was better, although not as good as the original series. There were still some big problems (like the non-acting during the love scenes), but it was a step above.
Here's something I've noticed about you, M Jackson: you like to take unpopular stances. You defend the prequels, claiming they're just as good as the originals, you defended Michael Jackson when that was big on the board, and I'm sure there was something else (did the Simpsons jump the shark?) I'm not complaining, just noticing.
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M Jackson
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Originally posted by evan: Here's something I've noticed about you, M Jackson: you like to take unpopular stances. You defend the prequels, claiming they're just as good as the originals, you defended Michael Jackson when that was big on the board, and I'm sure there was something else (did the Simpsons jump the shark?) I'm not complaining, just noticing. I've noticed that too. I'm not doing it to "be different" It's just my true opinions on certain things. I'm not a fool, and I try not to be swept along with the crowd. If I truely feel differently about something I'll say so and why I feel that way, that's all. I can see why many people have negative opinions about these things (films, Michael Jackson....), but once you actually look into the situation things aren't the way they first appear. In the case of Michael Jackson, people would be AMAZED just how much of what is written about him is total BS. Not just exagerations, but often PURE fabrication. The problem is these stories get printed or broadcast then when it turns out they are not true the media just ignores it and doesn't even make an apology or correction! For example, last week a story was spread that during the police raid of the Neverland Ranch, photos were found in Michael Jacksons bedroom of little boys naked lying face down on his bed! The story went into specific details, it had to be true, right? Just a few days later the source that originally tipped off the media ADMITTED it was a hoax! But nobody decided to cover that story! Did you know that due to his outstanding commitment to good causes all over the world, Michael Jackson was nominated for the nobel peace prize last year!? No, well that's because the media didn't think that was worth covering. For nearly 40 years he's dedicated his life to creating outstanding music, setting more records and winning more awards than ANYBODY in history (including Elvis and the beatles). Just because he's a bit strange, and some scumbag racist sherrif and a money hungry bitch and her son decide to bring him down, i'm not going to believe he's a child molester without some proof (and they haven't got any yet). Infact the case is slowly starting to fall apart. In court a few weeks ago the mother of the boy ADMITTED that before she even met Michael Jackson she hired a lawyer with the sole purpose of settling with him for money! You be the judge of that. Wow, I went on a bit there. But I made my point.
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M Jackson
Professor
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« Reply #181 on: 10-02-2004 16:04 »
« Last Edit on: 10-02-2004 16:04 »
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I've just picked up th latest issue of Empire ("The world's best movie magazine" don't ya know) and this months the regular Top 10 is, the worst sequels ever made. Here's the list... 1: Batman & Robin 2: Highlander 2: The Quickening 3: Jaws: the Revenge 4: Speed 2: Cruise Control 5: Superman IV: The Quest for Peace 6: Babe: Pig in the City 7: Hannibal 8: Trail of the Pink Panther 9: Alien Resurrection 10:The Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions I agree with that list except for #7 Hannibal. It may not be up there with Silence of the Lambs (or even the suprisingly good Red Dragon) but it's still 2/3 of a good film. The final act just falls apart with the pigs showdown and Hannibal becomes a bit too campy. But then there's the great final scene with the little boy on the plane. + it's all brilliantly shot by Ridley Scott and for the most part it's an engaging (if slightly grisly) thriller. Not a great film but not a bad one either, shouldn't be on the list. And i've made my feeling about Reloaded/ Revolutions clear before. This very magazine gave them 4 and 3 star reviews respectivly on their theatrical release. I'm disapointed a reputable magazine like Empire would cave in to pier pressure and change their tune so quickly. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/matrix_reloaded/ I can think of dozens of sequels worse than either Hannibal or the Matrix's. Pick ANY sequel in a popular horror franchise, eg Nightmare on Elm Street, Texas Chainsaw Massacre..... As shit as Jaws: the Revenge is (and that's REALLY shit) personally I think Jaws 3 is even worse. But overall I agree with the choices in Empire's list. Surely NOBODY would defend the abizmal Batman & Robin or Speed 2!? Discuss...
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M Jackson
Professor
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That's good David A, keep telling yourself that and it'll be OK. That's what I do with Speed. Such a wonderful action film, good I HATE Speed 2....I mean, Speed 2? never heard of it.
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SlurmGuy_3rdtry
Crustacean
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Oh, I'd have to say that ESB and ROTJ are some super wicked sequels. Two Towers and ROTK are equally as good. Then of course there's the Matrix Reloaded, X-Men 2, Spider-Man 2, Harry Potter 2 & 3, Kill Bill Vol. 2 and many others that I don't feel like naming off. As for bad sequels go, bad movies have bad sequels. These are usually any horror movie you've seen.
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Zipy_Googlemire
Crustacean
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Even tho it wasnt really a sequal Blade runner the directors cut. It was the first directors cut I've seen that had less material than the oringinal (they could have a at least had the option to see the orginal theatrical release as well as the redo)
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SlurmGuy_3rdtry
Crustacean
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Originally posted by Zogonif: Not All Horror Movies have Bad Sequals SLurmguy
Did I say all or did I say usually? And Mr. Nintendo, I stand by the term super wicked.
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Otis P Jivefunk
DOOP Secretary
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I know this is the opposite of most peoples opinions, but I've recently watched the Star Wars trilogy, and Indiana Jones trilogy again, on DVD. Here's how I order each trilogy, from best to worst:
Star Wars trilogy: Return of the Jedi A New Hope The Empire Strikes Back
Indiana Jones trilogy: The Temple of Doom The Last Crusade Raiders of the Lost Ark
So for me at least, both these trilogies included movies which I preferred over the original movie in each trilogy...
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