BoJack Horseman

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Season 5 has arrived!

I am so impressed that this show has maintained its quality after 5 seasons. This one delivered on all accounts. I love how many weird and "experimental" episodes this season had. Diane's Vietnam episode was fantastic and "Bo-Bo the Angsty Zebra" one was hilarious in a really dumb way.

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I wish Hollyhock had a bigger role since she seems like BoJack's biggest friend at the moment, but I do like how it seems like the characters are changing rather than stagnating in constant misery. It's wonderful to finally see Princess Carolyn finally achieve her goal of being a mother, for a start. Todd seems to be doing alright as well.

But Diane is spiraling out of control and become more and more manipulative, Mr. Peanutbutter is digging himself into a hole, and BoJack is BoJack.

The season also needed more beloved character actress and fugitive from the law Margo Martindale, but I was glad she showed up, even if it was for a few seconds.

[Reply #81 on:]

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I thought they did something really cool and subtle when the sex robot gets called out for behaviour that was relatively benign compared to what Bojack did, and it blows up into a huge media story. Then the real dark serious shit Bojack did was covered up in a similar manner to real life Hollywood covering up for Cosby and Weinstien for years and years. I don't think the intention was to excuse what the sex robot did, but more to express the idea that some more sinister stuff probably flies under the radar while the media is chasing around the Henry Fondles of the world.

[Reply #82 on:]

Is it just me or is Bojack this generation's Breaking Bad?

[Reply #83 on:]

Is it just me or is Hijack this generation's Breaking Bad?

Nah, because BoJack just got cancelled. Fuckin RIP.

Although supposedly season 6 was intended to be the final one anyway, so that's fine. It's had a good run, and hopefully it ends on a high note.

[Reply #84 on:]

Do you think Bojack's friend Jesse will survive this season?  Maybe he'll have an ace up his sleeve.

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Although supposedly season 6 was intended to be the final one anyway, so that's fine. It's had a good run, and hopefully it ends on a high note.

Aaron Paul tweeted to someone that Netflix cancelled them but the crew/production team are just saying it was supposed to be the final season, I wonder what went down.

Also, I haven't seen a single episode of this show.

[Reply #86 on:]

You should check it out, I read somewhere that it's this generation's Breaking Bad^*.

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[Reply #87 on:]

Although supposedly season 6 was intended to be the final one anyway, so that's fine. It's had a good run, and hopefully it ends on a high note.

Aaron Paul tweeted to someone that Netflix cancelled them but the crew/production team are just saying it was supposed to be the final season, I wonder what went down.

Also, I haven't seen a single episode of this show.

That's odd. It's possible that they were expecting to be cancelled and planned accordingly. Maybe they did Futurama's signature move of writing a "final" episode that might not be final.

And you absolutely should watch this show; it's by far the best Netflix original in my opinion. The first season is kind of weird and slow, but it improves rapidly. The RT scores tell quite a story; the five seasons are respectedly rated 67, 100, 100, 97, and 98.

[Reply #88 on:]

Has anybody figured out why there are animal people alongside people people in this show?  They never seemed to address it and it never seemed to make sense.  Like, did the creator really like Rock's Modern Life but got confused, or is this show a sequel to The Island of Dr. Moreau somehow?

[Reply #89 on:]

Well, it's over. Episode 15 was incredibly dark and I was at the edge of my seat the entire time, and some of the new information about Sarah Lynn was pretty fucked up and made it much harder to side with BoJack.

The ending felt slightly rushed, which I guess is a side effect of the cancellation, but it felt like a fitting ending nonetheless.

Anyway, this has been a phenomenal show and is easily one of my favourites of all time. It's got so much heart and unexpectedly relatable themes topped off with a healthy dose of humour and satire.

That's politics for you.

[Reply #90 on:]

Yeah I thought the ending was incredibly rushed, tbh. More particularly the last episode. Everything before that was fine. It just felt completely unnecessary as a last episode in my honest opinion. It basically told us everything we already know with the exception of the finale scene with Diane and BoJack. I'm not saying I wanted BoJack dead but the ending of the series definitely would have had a greater impact had he stayed dead.. Still, this'll do I guess. I can now safely give this show a solid rating of 7.5/10 as a whole.

[Reply #91 on:]

Eh, I think the show ending there would be very unsatisfying. There seems to be some weird misconception  that the only way to conclude a character arc is to kill them, which I think would have been cheap and lazy. Really, I think the ending we got is fitting. BoJack has faced the consequences of his choices and has to make a fresh start without his friends, who have all moved on with their lives.

The only rushed parts in my opinion were the arcs for Diane and Princess Carolyn, and that was mostly because so much happened off-screen.

[Reply #92 on:]

I was turned off by the show when they made Todd an assexual (like that's really a thing) why most the regressive left shove their identity politics, lgbtqwerty agenda into everything?

[Reply #93 on:]

That was actually fairly tasteful and integrated into the story very naturally. This show is full of political satire, but not every slightly-progressive thing has an agenda behind it.

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I was turned off by the show when they made Todd an assexual (like that's really a thing) why most the regressive left shove their identity politics, lgbtqwerty agenda into everything?

Hey it actually is a thing, because you're talking to one. And there are various forms of it. While I do agree that most shows nowadays cram the lgbtqrstuvwxyz agenda down our throats, I don't think making Todd an assexual really took anything away from his overall character in the show. Especially considering he's incompetent for most of the show, it wouldn't have been much different if he hadn't been an assexual is essentially what I'm trying to say. Even if Todd got to score, it's not like those women would have likely stuck around anyways after learning what kind of person he was. But in all honesty I appreciate when shows want to speak up on things nobody really pays any mind to. Assexuality is definitely one of them, my own family doesn't even believe it so I can sympathize as to why you don't think it's a thing. (Ik unrelated sorry) The whole LGBTQ thing has been done to death by now, almost every show portrays it in some form nowadays. I, like you, am beginning to get tired of it as well but it's just a part of the society we live in today... nothing's gonna stop it now, sadly.

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Fair enough, the whole assexual thing is a weird thing for me to wrap my head around. I had assumed they just had an extremely low libido as its hard to believe someone never felt any sexual attraction for another person (or animal) but I admit I know nothing on this subject.

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Especially considering he's incompetent for most of the show

I know this has basically nothing to do with the point you're trying to make, but I definitely disagree that he's incompetent. At worst, he's full of dumb ideas that rarely make sense. But he's very proactive in working towards his goals and is often very successful (albeit through pure luck a lot of the time). Off the top of my head, he created a theme park, a multi-million dollar cab business, was briefly governor of California, became a high-level executive at whattimeisitrightnow.com and invented a sex robot that had enough self-awareness to run an entire company. He also almost became a successful composer before Bojack and character actress Margo Martindale sobataged his rock opera.

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Especially considering he's incompetent for most of the show

I know this has basically nothing to do with the point you're trying to make, but I definitely disagree that he's incompetent. At worst, he's full of dumb ideas that rarely make sense. But he's very proactive in working towards his goals and is often very successful (albeit through pure luck a lot of the time). Off the top of my head, he created a theme park, a multi-million dollar cab business, was briefly governor of California, became a high-level executive at whattimeisitrightnow.com and invented a sex robot that had enough self-awareness to run an entire company. He also almost became a successful composer before Bojack and character actress Margo Martindale sobataged his rock opera.

Yes, Todd is very proactive and hard working when working towards his goals but generally he's pretty much clumsy and incompetent when it comes to his approach of such goals. Not saying he's lazy or can't be trusted, but rather he just doesn't have the necessary skill to perform many of the "whacky plans" he's had in previous seasons. More than half the time, it works out for him because of dumb luck or someone else intervening, not really by his own skill. I do appreciate that by the end of the show he actually got a bit more competent and able in ability, but in all honesty Todd was always one of my least characters in BoJack Horseman so what do I know  

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Well, he did have the necessary skills to create both his rock opera and Henry Fondle, but yes, I do see your point. In the first two seasons he was primarily comic relief and didn't really fully develop until season 3 when he started to resent BoJack and be taken a bit more seriously.

On a similar note, I noticed recently that BoJack is actually pretty intelligent when he's not being a shithead; with his response to that out-of-the-blue Israel/Palestine question and immediately understanding Diane's weird costume in season 6's Halloween episode.