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« #4 : 03-29-2015 02:47 »
« : 03-29-2015 02:48 »
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Un-BREAK-able! They aliiiiive, damnit! It's a MIRacle!My girlfriend and I binge-watched the first season over a single weekend when it was released, and we both loved it. It felt a bit like "30 Rock Lite" to begin with, but it hit its stride pretty quickly, and really came into its own in the back half of the season.  I'm actually a little saddened to hear you were never completely sold on 30 Rock, Josh, though I also can't really dispute anything you said about it - "cartoonish" pretty much sums up Tina Fey and Robert Carlock's work better than any other word. However, I've never seen it as a bad thing. I love cartoons, after all, and found it impressive that they've been able to pull off the "live action cartoon" vibe with their work, which must be one hell of a tough tightrope to walk from a production standpoint. And most 30 Rock fans agree that the show didn't truly become 30 Rock until it fully embraced the notion that it was a live action cartoon. I pretty much see 30 Rock and Parks & Recreation as the spiritual successors to the "classic era" of The Simpsons - the latter inherited the show's heart and its impressive world-building, while the former inherited its humour. The structure and pacing of your average 30 Rock (and, by extension, Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt) episode is almost identical to that of The Simpsons, as is the rapid-fire manner in which the jokes are constructed and delivered. Kimmy Schmidt also seems to have a bit more of a penchant for background/freeze-frame gags, a la Arrested Development. Of course, this style has its drawbacks, the main one being that it can often be difficult to be truly invested as a viewer. There's no denying that Fey and Carlock care about their characters, but comedy is definitely their first priority. 30 Rock was essentially a punchline delivery machine, though it was a very witty, hard working and reliable punchline delivery machine. Maybe you might enjoy their work more if you went in with the same mindset you have when watching cartoons?
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« #6 : 03-29-2015 10:35 »
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Can't say I'm as sold on Kimmy Schmidt as I am with 30 Rock, but the latter holds a big place in my heart.
Well, if we're comparing the first 13 episodes of Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt to the first 13 episodes of 30 Rock alone, I'm actually inclined to say the former's doing much better for itself at this point in its run. But yes, I agree that 30 Rock is the superior show, and also holds a special place in my heart, too. Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt has yet to find itself a character as great as Jack or Jenna (although the latter didn't truly become a great character until about the third or fourth season, so I guess that point's somewhat moot given my previous statement). As long as Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt keeps churning out material as funny as the "Daddy's Boy" bit, though, I think me and it are going to get along just fine. 
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