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cyber_turnip
Urban Legend
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I recently started watching this and whizzed through all 7 seasons within a few weeks (what a fantastic show! Not quite as good as the original, but still... fantastic).
Anyhoo. I would have loved Jim Carrey to have been the new boss, but not as the fingerlakes guy character -plus it obviously was never going to be him, as good as a career move as it'd probably be for him at the minute.
I would also have loved for it to be have been Ricky Gervais, but again, this was obviously never going to happen.
I was mortified when I heard that Ray Romano was one of the contenders, though, after watching the episode, I wouldn't mind it. I quite liked his character.
Catherine Tate was surprisingly not awful as a one-off guest appearance, but I couldn't deal with her on a weekly basis. She's most famous here in the UK for her sketch show which is dire.
I don't want the job to go to anybody already working in the office as they need some new blood to keep the show fresh -although I suppose the logical thing for them to do from a writing/producing standpoint would be to hire Spader as CEO and then give the manager position to Andy or Dwight.
I'd personally love Will Arnett to take over. I love the guy, but initially thought his character might be too similar to Dwight... but the character actually seemed quite unusual for him, less confident than normal. So yeah, I'm hoping that after Spader is promoted, the managers position goes to Will Arnett or some other character we haven't seen yet.
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futurefreak
salutatory committee member
DOOP Secretary
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Ahh cyber turnip you stole my thunder! I was going to pst exactly that, how Will Arnett is pretty much the only person who could save that show if he were brought in as manager. Too bad he's busy on the AD project (who am I kidding though I'd rather see him in that than office). It'd be pretty funny though, I saw a lil GOB in him in his interview.
The first episode was meh...Spader is okay, in general I like Andy, but the dyanmic isn't working for me...of course anything is better than Will Ferrel...
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TheMadCapper
Fluffy
UberMod
DOOP Secretary
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I caught the Turf War episode on Hulu and enjoyed it thoroughly. I love that Andy managed to grab a huge customer away from Dunder Mifflin. It's both a show of his worthiness and the incompetence of his sort-of-insane former boss.
What's Andy gonna do now? Sell his new Big Red Paper company to Dunder Mifflin for huge sums? That's what I'd do.
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FishyJoe
Honorary German
Urban Legend
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So, last night's episode was fantastic. Best episode of the season so far if you ask me and easily up to par with the show when Steve Carell was still on it.
It makes me very sad that the show is on its last legs with regards to ratings because this episode proved that there's still a lot of potential life in it.
Old post! Not sure which episode you are talking about. However, I will use this as a jumping-off point to talk about this season. For the most part, the show is exactly what I expected: the same Office-style humor, but without Michael Scott who contributed about 70% of the laughs. If this were a brand new show, I don't know if it would be consistently funny enough for me to watch...but since I am invested in the characters (and it IS still funny at times) I will gladly keep watching. A couple of episodes have really surprised me--notably the Sabre store episode, which IMO was one of the best ever. I also liked the episode where Andy breaks up with his girlfriend. Erin is the cutest girl on TV--I could watch her making cute faces forever and never get bored. However! With all of that positivity, I will come back to earth by complaining about the current storyline with Andy getting fired. They have made him way too pathetic. Michael Scott was always pathetic-funny and pathetic-endearing. Andy is just pathetic-embarrassing. It is possible that they will come up with a resolution clever enough for me to change my opinion about this storyline...but so far it just kind of sounds like an unfunny rehash of the Michael Scott Paper Company (best story arc they've ever done, if you ask me).
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futurefreak
salutatory committee member
DOOP Secretary
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The firing of Andy and making Nellie the manager ... whatI haven't watched this show in...a very long while (pretty much since Michael was booted out, though I did catch a few this season) and I made the right choice. This isn't The Office, it's just a horribly written fan fiction with a lot of the same characters thrown in there engaged in plots not based in reality. And what I find even more ridiculous is that it was picked up for another season. Shows how crappy NBC's shows are now, or perhaps they got a lot of bobbleheads to sell in the NBC store
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futurefreak
salutatory committee member
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #183 on: 05-12-2012 22:47 »
« Last Edit on: 05-12-2012 22:49 »
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The proposal episode between Michael and his girlfriend would have made a great series finale. And that is what that episode was in my eyes. The rest of this is just arbitrary spinoff crap like Saved By the Bell: The College Years. Why don't shows ever leave on a high note like that anymore? Have some pride, you greedy jackasses.
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futurefreak
salutatory committee member
DOOP Secretary
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Sorry, ABC Wednesday night beats any of those shows. Suburgatory, Modern Family, Happy Endings, and my new favorite The B in Apt. 23 are all entertaining to watch. I never fancied Community or Parks & Rec; seemed like knockoffs of original The Office in different settings. The Office as it is now though stands to be amongst one of the worst shows I have seen recently on television. And it used to be among my favorite.
Did it need to be renewed for another season? Heck no. It needed to be killed just like Scrubs: The New Class or whatever the heck that last season was without the main characters. NBC is either very greedy, narcissitic, or really has no other shows in the works (or rather, I think it is all three considering they focus on a show that works to inflate their massive ego - 30 Rock).
Wasn't Whitney on NBC too? Ok I take it back. That was the worst show I had seen on television this past year. But Office is closely behind. When I watch it - I don't laugh. It's something on TV that I have no interest in and it becomes background noise. That is not a good thing.
So yeah, my point being, NBC needs to get their act together if they wanna sustain a captive audience.
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JoshTheater
Space Pope
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« Reply #186 on: 05-13-2012 18:02 »
« Last Edit on: 05-13-2012 18:29 »
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I can understand the comparison between Parks And Recreation and The Office, obviously...they're meant to be similar. Community, however, is nothing like either of them in any way, shape, or form. It is the most original, consistently hilarious, and smartest comedy on television right now by leaps and bounds. You not being able to get into it certainly doesn't reflect on its quality...just on your taste. Also if you gave Parks And Rec more of a chance you might be surprised...as an ensemble comedy it actually clicks very well and the storylines are clever and have satisfying payoffs, much like early Office. I won't argue with you about current Office...it's become stale and is no where near it's glory years. That said, I wouldn't say it's debilitated to total awfulness just yet. 30 Rock I've never really been able to get into, but from what I've seen it has its moments, and everyone else I know seems to be in love with it. From what you've said, sounds like you've only watched a couple episodes of each (with new Office I mean of the new season), and not at all actually attempted to follow a multi-episode storyline of any of them (which is where most of them really succeed, emotionally and comedically). I think it's pretty harsh of you to condemn the whole network for sucking when you've barely given its shows a chance, especially when all of its comedies have fanbases that seem to think they're the best thing since sliced bread and all of which have received quite a bit of critical acclaim...which isn't something you can say for any of the ABC shows you mentioned except for Modern Family (which I agree is an excellent show). Just because none of the shows currently happen to be your thing personally doesn't mean that the network is doing anything wrong. They already have quite the captive audience...it just so happens that people who enjoy smart comedies aren't the majority when it comes to television viewership. But that's not surprising at all considering that the majority would clearly rather watch mindless crap like American Idol and Jersey Shore, and their taste in comedy is Two And A Half Men. If The Office is currently NBC's worst comedy, at least it's still miles above shit like that, which means they must be doing something right.
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futurefreak
salutatory committee member
DOOP Secretary
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I agree about the America Idol like shows, they are damn awful. But I don't think it's really fair to compare one genre of show (comedy) to another (reality tv). I referred to 4 comedies on another network that I rather enjoy (and even Modern Family is a little overhyped to me, I actually like Happy Endings and B in Apt 23 a lot more, but I do enjoy Modern Family in the positive). I watched probably the first half of The Office this year (half or third), and then I just stopped caring. I missed it one week and I didn't really care, then I just stopped watching altogether. I did catch one episode a few weeks back when nothing was on and I was channel surfing, the one where they go to Spader's mansion like house. And meh, it was okay, but it's not The Office. Like I said, all the same characters were there but in a different reality. And over the last years I have severely grown to dislike Jim and Pam, immensely, which sours it for me when I see their characters whining on screen (like when Jim wanted to go home from the party early but Spader kept making him stick around). So if I was to compare this last season of Office to any of those ABC shows (even The Middle, which I detested initially as a Malcolm in the Middle knockoff, which is still is), I much rather prefer any of ABC's comedy shows than NBC. They just aren't funny. I have seen a few episodes of Park and Rec. Or rather, the same episode twice lol (the one with the mun type conference thing). That episode wasn't that bad - it wasn't SPECTACULAR, but I found it entertaining. Perhaps because I am biased towards Amy Poehler...but the other characters weren't that annoying, I could actually tolerate them, not like how characters on The Office have become. I still have yet to see a good episode of Community. I admit, I have only seen a few, but the ones I saw were just...uninteresting. The characters do not appeal to me and they do not want to make me watch more. I much much rather prefer Parks and Rec to this. But consider any of these shows pitted against a show as amazing as Arrested Development. They aren't even playing the same ballgame as them. AD is major league and all these are little league. And AD didn't make it, but crap like The Office gets renewed. That to me tells me NBC has no creative talent on their side right now. And as far as 30 Rock goes, I've seen it, and I don't see the big hype over it is
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futurefreak
salutatory committee member
DOOP Secretary
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You mean how is The Middle like MITM (as MITM came first). - The title (stupid I know, but first clue)
- The family structure: overbearing Mom, laid back Dad, 3 kids at home (aside from one of them being a girl whereas MITM had all boys. Later on MITM they had another boy, but for this comparison we are talking about classic MITM. They had Francis as well, but he didn't live at home so his plot was rarely relevant to the home plots). And as usual, the oldest child Axel (aka Reese in MITM) is the dumb one.
- The actors: Don't tell me you haven't looked at the youngest boy on The Middle and thought, Wow, he kinda looks like Dewey! As well as the father (tall and lean) and the mother (short and fiesty, and even sporting a similar hairdo).
- The narration style: The only difference here is that it is from the mother's point of view and not the child's.
These are just the similarities I can name right away. I'm sure were I to delve more into it (being that I last watched MITM years ago) there would be more.
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