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davierocks
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I'm sure this thread has been done. However I m ay as well throw in my two cents. Yeah Space Pilot is good but the best has to be The Sting.
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zoidyzoid
Professor
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« Reply #4 on: 02-08-2004 04:08 »
« Last Edit on: 02-08-2004 04:08 »
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Sorry if this post seems excessively negative, I'm just stating my opinion, which happens to be different to yours Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama: Many fans have their favorite, to me the best episode is the very first. I think Space Pilot 3000 is a good episode, especially for a pilot, but definitely not the best. Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama: For had it not been for the first episode, we would not have had an interest in Futurama. Not me. I didn't get into Futurama after seeing the first episode, it took until much later when I watched a friend's downloaded copy of The Problem With Popplers. Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama: I'm not saying that Futurama is better than the Simpsons I am Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama: SP3K introduced us to Fry, Leela and Bender and that can't be taken away. True, but that doesn't really prove anything. Most shows introduce the main characters in the pilot, and that doesn't make it great. Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama: It was the highest rate pilot on FOX according to Matt on season one commentary. Ratings don't equal quality. Especially for the pilot, which most people would have watched because it was made by the creator of The Simpsons. Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama: no matter how many episodes there are or will be, if Futurama ever gets renewed, SP3K will always be my most favorite. Can you really say that without seeing these hypothetical 'new episodes' you speak of? Unless your preference is based mainly on the fact that it was the pilot, which seems a pretty dodgy criteria to me.
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Bushmeister
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SP3K is one of the best pilots for a show that I have ever seen but I would agree that the show really gets its best in 3ACV and 4ACV and my favourite episode is still "Luck of the Fryrish".
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Gregg
Crustacean
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SP3K is a good episode. Futurama is better than the Simpsons though, we can only wonder that beauties the production crew would have been pulling out the bag now.
Personally though, I think season 3 carried most of the less enjoyable (but by no means crap) episodes.
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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SP3K is a great episode, and one of the best pilots I've ever seen. It managed to introduce the 3 maincharacters (and Farnsworth) and have a pretty good and funny story too. I wouldn't call it the best though, that title belong to "Roswell That Ends Well", but I would place it in my top-20.
Matt didn't say it was the highest rated debut on FOX. John DiMaggio asked if it was, and Matt said he couldn't remember, but they did really well. Much better than FOX had anticipated.
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fryfanSpyOrama
Urban Legend
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Originally posted by zoidyzoid: Sorry if this post seems excessively negative, I'm just stating my opinion, which happens to be different to yours
Can you really say that without seeing these hypothetical 'new episodes' you speak of? Unless your preference is based mainly on the fact that it was the pilot, which seems a pretty dodgy criteria to me.
Not to sound mad or anything this is my opinion as well. In Answer to your question yes, I can. There is something that SP3K that got me interested in a way that was completely different than any other pilot. I had empathy for Fry, because there were times where I felt like him and other times I felt like Bender and so on. Futurama was like something that tapped into my imagination. It was as if Matt knew what I liked, tapped into our imaginations and expressed it in Futurama. If not for SP3K I probably would've said "Futurama is a Simpson's rip-out" like some of my friends said early on when Futurama first appeared. But thanks to the way SP3K was written and it was the first episode I ever saw, it wasn't a Simpson's rip-out. It could stand up on its own, it was something I could relate to. I'm not saying any of the other episodes are inferior, I like Luck of the Fryrish, but SP3K is the foundation of Futurama, w/o that episode Futurama would not be as good as it is today. Some people say George Washington was the best president because he was the father of the United States. With Futurama SP3K is the best episode, because it was the episode that started it all.
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Y_L_B
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Eh... SP3K was pretty good. It's in my top ten, but not the best.
My fave is LOTF, followed closly by, "I, Roommate", and HIOR.
I'm sorry. I'm too lazy to type out the full ep names.
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zoidyzoid
Professor
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« Reply #18 on: 02-09-2004 00:42 »
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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama: Not to sound mad or anything this is my opinion as well. In Answer to your question yes, I can. There is something that SP3K that got me interested in a way that was completely different than any other pilot. I had empathy for Fry, because there were times where I felt like him and other times I felt like Bender and so on. Futurama was like something that tapped into my imagination. It was as if Matt knew what I liked, tapped into our imaginations and expressed it in Futurama. If not for SP3K I probably would've said "Futurama is a Simpson's rip-out" like some of my friends said early on when Futurama first appeared. But thanks to the way SP3K was written and it was the first episode I ever saw, it wasn't a Simpson's rip-out. It could stand up on its own, it was something I could relate to. I'm not saying any of the other episodes are inferior, I like Luck of the Fryrish, but SP3K is the foundation of Futurama, w/o that episode Futurama would not be as good as it is today. Some people say George Washington was the best president because he was the father of the United States. With Futurama SP3K is the best episode, because it was the episode that started it all. [/small] I still don't really agree, but you put that well, and I understand a bit more where you're coming from.
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Cuzza
Crustacean
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Only seeing season 1 and season 4, my choices are limited. I loved SP3K, a great way to start the series, and leaves you wanting more. One of my favourites would have to be "I, Roomate":, even though Matt Groening said that Fox hated it, although most people disagree. I saw "The Sting" the other day, and it's also excfellent. Great, smart story, with good twists. I like Mars University, Fishful of Money and most from season 1, just as much as the ones I listed.
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Actually I thought that was an okay part, and add to that the introduction of Zoidberg and Luna Park scenes and you have a really good episode. Then again I always lump SP3K and "The Series Has Landed" together as a two-parter pilot episode, why not? They are both used to introduce the Futurama universe and the 7 main characters.
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fryfanSpyOrama
Urban Legend
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I like the second episode for its introdutions to Hermes, Amy and Zoidberg and we got to see more of the building relationship between Fry and Leela. And bender's lines were funny Bender: "Too much work. Let's burn it and say we dumped it in the sewer."
Bender: "C'mon, it's just like making love! Y'know...Left, down...Rotate 62 degrees...Engage rotor..." Amy: "Ugh, I know how to make love!"
Bender: "That's her officer, that's the woman who programmed me for evil."
Bender: "Yeah! Well, I'm gonna go build my own theme park. With blackjack and hookers! In fact, forget the park!"
Fry: "Bender you didn't touch the crushinator did you? Bender: "Of course not a lady that fine you have to romance first."
Fry: "Hey, cool! Dark side of the moon." Leela: "*gasp* Nightfall is coming. Hurry, before we freeze." Bender: "What do you mean "we", mammal?"
Bender: "Oh, no room for Bender, huh? Fine, I'll go build my own lunar lander! With blackjack and hookers! In fact, forget the lunar lander and the blackjack! Ah, screw the whole thing."
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Gleno
Liquid Emperor
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Originally posted by Teral: Actually I thought that was an okay part, and add to that the introduction of Zoidberg and Luna Park scenes and you have a really good episode. Then again I always lump SP3K and "The Series Has Landed" together as a two-parter pilot episode, why not? They are both used to introduce the Futurama universe and the 7 main characters. Unless of course you were in Australia where they showed SP3000 and I, Roommate as the pilot.... Who are these other characters....? They're acting as if they know Fry already....? *Skip to the following week when they showed TSHL* "Oh now I get it...."
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