Grim

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« on: 02-22-2003 04:04 »
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I acknowledge that the chances of Fox renewing Futurama is less than slim, but their continual "Diplomatic" attitude has me wondering. Through this whole Hiatus/cancellation dispute, they have assured us that, it hasnt been renewed, due to over supply of episodes, which caused a backlash in the community. But take for instance their letter regarding the closure of Planetexpress.dk- The kind lawyer ends his letter with the following words (quoted): "Your interest in "Futurama" is most appreciated. Fox will continue to do its best to bring you quality entertainment.".
Now we all understand the "quality entertainment" (Yay World's Blankiest Blank shows!), but its the "Your interest in "Futurama" is most appreciated." that gets me. If Fox acknowledges the fanbase, even appreciates the fanbase, why didnt they just renew it, or just plain cancell it, why leave their appreciated viewers in limbo? Prehaps fox has been upfront the whole time, prehaps they are just "Waiting out the episode supply?" Its as if they acknowledge that something they dont like, is popular and dont know what to do. Sorry, this is just what was on my mind after seeing the closure of planetexpress.dk Thoughts?
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Teral

Helpy McHelphelp
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Originally posted by Grim:
but its the "Your interest in "Futurama" is most appreciated." that gets me.
If Fox acknowledges the fanbase, even appreciates the fanbase, why didnt they just renew it, or just plain cancell it, why leave their appreciated viewers in limbo?
Homer:They don't mean anything. They're just words, like "I'll do it later" and "I love you"." Im pretty sure that's just a line tagged on for PR reasons. Pretty much saying: "Look we're really excited that you love our show, and you have built this magnificient wabsite. We're always happy to support fans in their job to further our revenue channels, unfortunately we have to ask you to delete the whole thing. Have a nice day." FOX doesn't appreciate the fanbase as such, they appreciate the rating numbers said fanbase produce. Nothing more, nothing less.
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LittleMiss

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Originally posted by Grim: I acknowledge that the chances of Fox renewing Futurama is less than slim, but their continual "Diplomatic" attitude has me wondering.
Through this whole Hiatus/cancellation dispute, they have assured us that, it hasnt been renewed, due to over supply of episodes, which caused a backlash in the community.
But take for instance their letter regarding the closure of Planetexpress.dk-
Now we all understand the "quality entertainment" (Yay World's Blankiest Blank shows!), but its the "Your interest in "Futurama" is most appreciated." that gets me.
If Fox acknowledges the fanbase, even appreciates the fanbase, why didnt they just renew it, or just plain cancell it, why leave their appreciated viewers in limbo?
Prehaps fox has been upfront the whole time, prehaps they are just "Waiting out the episode supply?"
Its as if they acknowledge that something they dont like, is popular and dont know what to do.
Sorry, this is just what was on my mind after seeing the closure of planetexpress.dk
Thoughts?
I never understood it... If they have a good episode who gives a shit how much they have... they should just keep showing and showing it! They cancelled a good show or whatever, just like NICKELODEON has been trying to do to INVADER ZIM, and like it did with REN AND STIMPY, etc.
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DBCrader

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Originally posted by Oni Zyxer: Carbito has proven his stupidity once again.
planetexpress.dk shut down THEMSELVES. Fox told them to take off the content *scanned comics* they shouldn't have, and they had a sad and shutdown. If they're an actual good site, losing one small portion of the site shouldn't affect them. But they're not. I for one, do NOT feel sorry for them at all. Matter of fact, it serves them right. We all know the site lived off those scans. We all saw nohomers.com shut down. We all know what Fox are like. It's inexcusablt on THEIR part. *Cough* I only question why FOX is upset over the scanning of the comics... they have nothing to do with that... I thought the comics end belonged solely to Matt Groening...
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Grim

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Carbito- dont buy from your newsagent, buy from specialised comic stores, they sell the imported issues from the US, I have 1-4 australian and 10 & 11 import.
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SQFreak

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Originally posted by Carbito: I thought that the comics would belong to Bongo Comics.
Questionably. On the side of my Futurama Simpsons Infinitely Secret Crossover Crisis #1: ©2002 BONGO ENTERTAINMENT, INC. THE SIMPSONS & FUTURAMA ©&TM TCFFC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. So the comics themselves are Bongo's but the characters and names belong to TCFFC, which I think is Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation (The "Film" not sure about).
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Grim

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Fox has the film rights
Bongo has the publishing rights
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DBCrader

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Originally posted by Carbito: I thought that the comics would belong to Bongo Comics.
Matt Groening IS Bongo Comics... it's his company... notice how they publish only "Simpsons/Futurama" stuff???
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Teral

Helpy McHelphelp
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Further proof that FOX simply doesn't "get" Futurama (and probably never will): From the FOX store's section on the seaosn 1 DVD: Join Fry, Leela, Bender, and the rest of the crew in this outrageous Jetsons-meets-Simpsons satire of pop culture, science fiction, and life as we will someday know it!
They still see Futurama as "Simpsons in the future", or "Jetsons by Matt Groening". And what's further puzzling is, they actually boasts about how the show is an Emmy-winner, and yet it's still cancelled. Weird. More from FOX store: According to creator Matt Groening, the hieroglyphic-like letters appearing in various locations throughout the opening animation DO mean something - it is up to loyal viewers to figure it out! Way to be on the ball there, FOX. Both AL1 and AL2 was dechiffered years ago.
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Grim

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Really gets you wondering... Fox just dont seem to understand it.
Isnt "Jetsons" they way Matt pitched it to try to make them understand it in the first place? I think that was on the comentaries or something I read eons ago, but then again I could be insane or something maybe...
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Teral

Helpy McHelphelp
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It was in the audiocommentaries to "Space Pilot 3000".
John: "Was this the highest rated debut in FOX history? ... Am I mistaken in saying that?" David: "Eehhh..." Scott (Vanzo): "I think it was." Matt: "Idunno. I can't remember. We did really well. And much to the surprise of FOX, becuase they were really alarmed by this show, by this episode. David and I went in to pitch this thing, and everybody got really excited, they ordered 13 episodes on the spot. And they said, well show us what you've got, and all we had was some notes for this script and they couldn't understand ... 'cause we said we didn't want the future to be dark and drippy like Bladerunner, but we didn't want it to be bland and boring like the Jetsons ... and they LOVED the Jetsons. They were all "Oh, it's THE GREATEST" you know. And, eeehhh, they couldn't understand how the future could be fun with, ehh, a one-eye alien woman and, ehh, a crazy..." David: "And the suicide booth." Matt: "And the suicide booth. They said: "why are people line up to kill themself on newyears-eve if this is so great, hmmm?""
So it was more FOX jumping to conclusions, and not paying attention to Matt and David when they tried to describe Futurama. They never intended Futurama to be anything like the Jetsons.
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Grim

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hit the nail on the head! Thats exactly what my insanity was keeping from me
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Grim

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art stuff like that is done by Bongo I think... Bongo do the calendars and other stuff, so I suppose it is them
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