Thoughts on 6ACV19 - Ghost in the Machines - SPOILERS

[Reply #120 on:]

They only become ghosts after committing suicide, though. There's no real advantage in knowing how to resurrect yourself if you only can do it after killing yourself, and not when you die by accident or by the hand of another.

And nobody in the universe ever bothered to say "crap, my robot broke itself. I will fix it"?

[Reply #121 on:]

On taking another robot's body: when he tried to enter the Fortune Teller, it exploded. When he tried to enter the Robot Devil, it was a struggle. I'd assume that when there's more than one robot soul in the body that it gets a little difficult to take over.

Things I Didn't Like:

I get that Bender has volatile emotions, but being so quick to want to kill his best friend still seems OOC. Bender should know Fry cares more about Bender than anyone else, and that Fry simply meant in general, human lives are more valuable than robot lives. This is especially true since robots have back-up copies anyway.

Bender always is a little less emotional with others. See: every episode he's in that he calls somebody a "meatbag", every episode he says "Bender is great!", "Let's go already!", Jurassic Bark, Beast with a Billion Backs, Benderama... I could go on, but that's, what's the word... his character.

Robot Devil wasn't really that funny this episode (with the exception of the callback to Hell is Other Robots, yes!)

Nope, Robot Devil was played wonderfully here.

As much as I found the "sex with mayor's wife joke" funny, it really did go against Fry's relationship with Leela. Not worth it imo.

Ugh... this again... It was a throw-away joke, it's not meant to disrupt anything between them. The series has gone back to the status quo with their relationship, which is on-again-off-again, in addition to the fact that it's the future and scruples are far different then, like how the Professor can be naked all of the time and nobody cares.

The cleavage joke from the Professor, the giant balloon joke and the Obama Care jokes fell flat and the latter was annoying for its pop culture reference. At least the balloon joke had a nice follow-up with Fry on Bender's shoulders : P. Bender reminded me of Jake from Adventure Time in that scene (I know it's the same voice actor, but Bender being so consoling to his "buddy" just seemed very Jake-ish lol)

I liked the cleavage joke, the balloons were a set up to the main story, and I was a little apprehensive about the Obamacare line on first viewing but it was fine. It's nowhere near as horrible as people are making it out to be; Obama is a far different person than the Kardashains, Susan Boyle, etc. Obama and what he did with health care is something that's very likely to be remembered in 1000 years, especially since his head's in the Hall of Presidents at the Head Museum, a place that the crew has visited multiple times and will again this season. I would not classify "Obamacare" as "pop" culture either.

The ending was awkward, lame and just left us hanging.

There are plenty of original run episodes that end just as awkwardly... I just can't be bothered to make a list while I'm hungry...

I would expect someone in the PE crew to have saved Fry when the apple structure was about to plow him, especially Leela.

They weren't paying attention to it at first. Bender was the only person who noticed it at first.

Fry should know about Parade Day by now. Yes you can come up with several seemingly plausible reasons why he doesn't know, but it just seemed like a cheap gimmick to explain to the audience what Parade Day is.

Do you hate Futurama or something? The best things of the classic series were when we had something that's from the future that's weird and needs explaining, when Fry has fish-out-of-water experiences. That's like complaining, "You know, Leela's been captain of Planet Express for a while, wouldn't you expect her to want to get a new job that's better?"

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I disagree.

They only become ghosts after committing suicide, though. There's no real advantage in knowing how to resurrect yourself if you only can do it after killing yourself, and not when you die by accident or by the hand of another.

Every time a robot is about to die, they can just kill themselves, wait for their body to be fixed, and come back to "life", with the added bonus of being a ghost that can move from electronic body to electronic body at will.  But you're right that back-up units are still beneficial, since it's a damn nice safety net when a robot isn't expecting to get murdered or die by non-suicide.

Still, this whole robot ghost after suicide aspect doesn't seem very fleshed out - more like a case of the writers thinking, "Hey, wouldn't it be great if we could do one of those cliched episode stories where a character gets to see how loved he is by his friends when they think he's dead? But this is the future and science fiction, so we can actually make the character dead! Toss in some loose explanation, make sure it doesn't directly violate any continuity, and we're good to go."

[Reply #122 on:]

not to get political, but lol at the comment someone made about obamacare be plausable in 1000 years. wowza.

[Reply #123 on:]

They only become ghosts after committing suicide, though. There's no real advantage in knowing how to resurrect yourself if you only can do it after killing yourself, and not when you die by accident or by the hand of another.

And nobody in the universe ever bothered to say "crap, my robot broke itself. I will fix it"?

Sure, why not. I don't see what it has to do with the topic, though. If the robot wants to kill itself, ghost around a little and then return, they could just set up a blank robot ready someplace (and make sure it's not inside a locked closet ).

edit: Inserted the quote so it would be clearer what I replied to.

[Reply #124 on:]

Still, this whole robot ghost after suicide aspect doesn't seem very fleshed out - more like a case of the writers thinking, "Hey, wouldn't it be great if we could do one of those cliched episode stories where a character gets to see how loved he is by his friends when they think he's dead? But this is the future and science fiction, so we can actually make the character dead! Toss in some loose explanation, make sure it doesn't directly violate any continuity, and we're good to go."

Kind of like all religion!

[Reply #125 on:]

not to get political, but lol at the comment someone made about obamacare be plausable in 1000 years. wowza.

It is plausible not on a political level but on the level of it being a hallmark of a presidency. And that the crew has visited the Hall of Presidents before and likely has already met Obama and seems to have a good knowledge of past presidents (they all know about John Quincy Adding Machine, and for some reason were hanging out with Chester A. Arthur when stupid). I'm not making a political argument, I'm making one based on the logic of the matter. The joke is much more plausible to be used by a character in the 31st Century than one about the Kardashians or Susan Boyle.

[Reply #126 on:]

Still, this whole robot ghost after suicide aspect doesn't seem very fleshed out - more like a case of the writers thinking, "Hey, wouldn't it be great if we could do one of those cliched episode stories where a character gets to see how loved he is by his friends when they think he's dead? But this is the future and science fiction, so we can actually make the character dead! Toss in some loose explanation, make sure it doesn't directly violate any continuity, and we're good to go."

Kind of like all religion!

Gaaah, I've never been able to find a good rimshot picture, and then you come along with one. Now I don't have to worry about getting called out by leiapadme for not having snares in my pic. /offtopic

I guess the point of the whole robot ghost discussion is to point out a possible weakness in the episode's story.

[Reply #127 on:]

not to get political, but lol at the comment someone made about obamacare be plausable in 1000 years. wowza.

It is plausible not on a political level but on the level of it being a hallmark of a presidency. And that the crew has visited the Hall of Presidents before and likely has already met Obama and seems to have a good knowledge of past presidents (they all know about John Quincy Adding Machine, and for some reason were hanging out with Chester A. Arthur when stupid). I'm not making a political argument, I'm making one based on the logic of the matter. The joke is much more plausible to be used by a character in the 31st Century than one about the Kardashians or Susan Boyle.

i'm not so sure of that. lucy liu is still big, beck is still big(sea change is an awesome album,btw). as for susan boyle, then never once said anything about susan boyle the person, it was just a modern joke for the folks at home.

ill wager that marilyn monroe will be known many a moons from now, and with the stupidity of the american people, i wouldn't be suprised if the same goes for the kardashians.

btw, kourtney is hot.

[Reply #128 on:]

Gaaah, I've never been able to find a good rimshot picture, and then you come along with one. Now I don't have to worry about getting called out by leiapadme for not having snares in my pic. /offtopic

Jeez. Google "badumtish" on images and it's the second hit. :P

[Reply #129 on:]

Gaaah, I've never been able to find a good rimshot picture, and then you come along with one. Now I don't have to worry about getting called out by leiapadme for not having snares in my pic. /offtopic

Jeez. Google "badumtish" on images and it's the second hit. :P

Haha this whole time I've been typing in "drum punch line", "rimshot" (o_O), and "drum joke". That's what I get for doubting the power of onomatopoeia.

[Reply #130 on:]

Speaking of how famous the Kardashians are, I had to google to find out who they are. The only thing I remember is that someone had a leaked porno tape.

[Reply #131 on:]

Lucy Lui and Beck had pretty long careers by the time their episodes were aired, and the best part of Beck's appearance is he made fun of himself the entire episode. Susan Boyle is a celebrity basically invented by the internet that's flown off the radar since her initial sighting.

Marilyn Monroe was an actress. She was nominated for BAFTAs and Golden Globes. And she was a model and all around celebrity, especially for her connections to Joe DiMaggio and a little-known guy named John F. Kennedy. Futurama has already parodied her and her work a few times before (of the top of my head, "Crimes of the Hot" features the short "Some Like It Hot" and the blowing up of Leela's skirt in App). The Kardashians are the result of television poop where cable networks are gentrifying their programming to appeal to a large swath of viewers rather than their original target audience by means of creating reality television about people who did nothing to become famous. These people still only have fifteen minutes of fame which already ran out and the channels are trying stuff them down our throats like they are actually famous people who deserve to be noticed.

And Barack Obama is the President of the United States. I really don't see the comparison between him and the Kardashians.

[Reply #132 on:]

Still, this whole robot ghost after suicide aspect doesn't seem very fleshed out - more like a case of the writers thinking, "Hey, wouldn't it be great if we could do one of those cliched episode stories where a character gets to see how loved he is by his friends when they think he's dead? But this is the future and science fiction, so we can actually make the character dead! Toss in some loose explanation, make sure it doesn't directly violate any continuity, and we're good to go."

Kind of like all religion!

Aki, you and I have been arguing about various things in a few different threads, and for the entire time I've thought of you as a pretty okay guy, reasonably intelligent and articulate, holding up your end of discussions without getting upset or offensive. I've enjoyed having this interaction with you, and felt like having you here made a real contribution to the PEEL community. In other words, your conduct allowed me to respect you, despite our opposing viewpoints.

And then, from nowhere, completely unprovoked, you take a shot at religion. Just because religion isn't important to you doesn't mean you have to be a dick and start insulting the (gigantic) group of people to whom it is important and meaningful. So yeah, that respect I mentioned earlier? You just showed the community that you really don't deserve it.

[Reply #133 on:]

MadCapper, it was a joke, and I thought that was pretty obvious considering the attached picture. It wasn't aimed at anyone specifically, it was a generic joke. If it wasn't a joke of your cup of tea, then ignore it or (at worst) say it was a bad joke. I will not start thinking of everything I say so that it is perfectly politically correct.

If that means that you will lose respect in me, that's sad.

[Reply #134 on:]

I'm more offended by Aki's blatant disrespect for Amy, parading her naked body around with every post he makes.

[Reply #135 on:]

Lucy Lui and Beck had pretty long careers by the time their episodes were aired, and the best part of Beck's appearance is he made fun of himself the entire episode. Susan Boyle is a celebrity basically invented by the internet that's flown off the radar since her initial sighting.

Marilyn Monroe was an actress. She was nominated for BAFTAs and Golden Globes. And she was a model and all around celebrity, especially for her connections to Joe DiMaggio and a little-known guy named John F. Kennedy. Futurama has already parodied her and her work a few times before (of the top of my head, "Crimes of the Hot" features the short "Some Like It Hot" and the blowing up of Leela's skirt in App). The Kardashians are the result of television poop where cable networks are gentrifying their programming to appeal to a large swath of viewers rather than their original target audience by means of creating reality television about people who did nothing to become famous. These people still only have fifteen minutes of fame which already ran out and the channels are trying stuff them down our throats like they are actually famous people who deserve to be noticed.

And Barack Obama is the President of the United States. I really don't see the comparison between him and the Kardashians.

aki: i wish didn't know who those file people were, but i live in america. you know, the country that runs tv and film.

weiner: i'm not really sure why you are mentioning boyle again. she was not mentioned in the show whatsoever.

i am also not saying anything negative about monroe, so i don't know why you wiki'ed her info to post to me. i already know all of these things.

all i am saying is that the kardashians are as plausable as liu and beck.

ask a typical american these two questions:

what is the name of obama's children?
what is the name of the kardashian sisters?

sadly, most folks will get the second question right before getting the first one.

[Reply #136 on:]

I don't know either of the answers. Then again I don't really see the value of knowing Obama's kids' names.

[Reply #137 on:]

I don't know either of the answers. Then again I don't really see the value of knowing Obama's kids' names.

you don't know/get a lot of things, though; so your thoughts on my comments are irrelevant.  NEXT!

[Reply #138 on:]

I don't know either of the answers. Then again I don't really see the value of knowing Obama's kids' names.

you don't know/get a lot of things, though; so your thoughts on my comments are irrelevant.  NEXT!

Is this guy a shark or what!?

[Reply #139 on:]

It was a bad joke. It was uncalled for. It was not funny. It was not clever. It took no wit to create. Its entire substance was based on calling religion and religious people stupid, with no provocation or even relevance to the discussion. Where is the humor in saying out of nowhere that people who think differently than you are stupid? It was a dickhead trolling exercise, and it surprised me because it was done by somebody who I thought was above such behavior.

Congratulations. I don't think I have ever posted these words on PEEL, in my decade of posting here. I was wrong about you.

[Reply #140 on:]

Susan Boyle was referenced before on Futurama much to the chagrin of fans, just as the Kardashian reference was received.

I don't know either of the answers. Then again I don't really see the value of knowing Obama's kids' names.

you don't know/get a lot of things, though; so your thoughts on my comments are irrelevant.  NEXT!

... No, just no. Just because he's a foreign fan who's not drowned in American pop culture doesn't mean that his comments are any less relevant than yours. You can find his opinions to be incorrect for other reasons, but not just because he doesn't "get" everything.

[Reply #141 on:]

It was a really cute episode and I like the bromance between Bender and Fry. Also it was good to see the robot devil again.  

[Reply #142 on:]

It was a bad joke. It was uncalled for. It was not funny. It was not clever. It took no wit to create. Its entire substance was based on calling religion and religious people stupid, with no provocation or even relevance to the discussion. Where is the humor in saying out of nowhere that people who think differently than you are stupid? It was a dickhead trolling exercise, and it surprised me because it was done by somebody who I thought was above such behavior.

Congratulations. I don't think I have ever posted these words on PEEL, in my decade of posting here. I was wrong about you.

I believe I have already made my point. This discussion is one-sided as well as entirely off topic, and I don't see the point of having it in this thread. If you want to complain more about the one off joke, send me a PM or open a thread in the off topic section or something. Let us now please not discuss it more in this thread.

[Reply #143 on:]

The Kardashians are the result of television poop where cable networks are gentrifying their programming to appeal to a large swath of viewers rather than their original target audience by means of creating reality television about people who did nothing to become famous. These people still only have fifteen minutes of fame which already ran out and the channels are trying stuff them down our throats like they are actually famous people who deserve to be noticed.

I am being a jerk for ignoring your entire point and focusing on the following nitpick. Now, with that out of the way...

Gentrifying is taking something that is low-class and awful like a desolate ghetto, and then improving it to the point that cultured people with money are interested in it.

This is not at all what happened with the Kardashians. No, they got picked out of a port-a-potty, dropped on a plate, and shoved under our noses, in an act of unusual hatred for the public by television executives. Viewers picked up that shit sandwich, took a bite, furrowed their brows, pulled the top slice of bread off, saw that they had literally bitten into a turd burger, put the bread back on, swallowed, and finished that sandwich. Then they asked for seconds.

Says some pretty sad things about America today.

[Reply #144 on:]

"Religion is the opium of the poor." - Hemingway

[Reply #145 on:]

Whatawut, don't.

[Reply #146 on:]

Whatawut, don't.

I was afraid of getting called out, but you're right; I admit I couldn't resist. Still, it strikes a nice parallel to the whole relevance of the Kardashians, which apparently is on-topic.

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Susan Boyle was referenced before on Futurama much to the chagrin of fans, just as the Kardashian reference was received.

I don't know either of the answers. Then again I don't really see the value of knowing Obama's kids' names.

you don't know/get a lot of things, though; so your thoughts on my comments are irrelevant.  NEXT!

... No, just no. Just because he's a foreign fan who's not drowned in American pop culture doesn't mean that his comments are any less relevant than yours. You can find his opinions to be incorrect for other reasons, but not just because he doesn't "get" everything.

it was aimed at a plethora of his comments, not one in particular.

my point still holds, though. susan boyle was never referenced in the episodes like the rest were(obama,kardashians), so her being mentioned is irrelevant to our current discussion. if you want to discuss tacky jokes, then yes, it was one of the worst.
back on point, though. i still hold firm that the kardashian's are just as bad/good(depending on your opinion) as using beck or liu in the series. sure, they are reality stars, but as other posters have mentioned, that is what is popular these days. 15 minutes have been over for a long time, they are sadly here to stay. who is to say that they will not be remembered as much as say liu(really? who is she again?)? people are not intelligent, weiner. they do not remember folks as much for their talent as they do for other reasons. i submit the opinion that using the kardashian reference is equal to using lucy liu; and liu was a whole episode, not just a passing joke.

**i want to also point out that i am sickened by tv shows such as theirs, and it disappoints me to be an american a lot of the times. my tv show preference is mainly educational tv(PBS!!!), HBO series(deadwood, THE game of thrones, boardwalk empire, curb your enthusiasm), and matt groening series.**


edit: it's also good to see that aki and i agree on some off-topic things.

[Reply #148 on:]

"Religion is the opium of the poor." - Hemingway

So you take all your opinions from a violent alcoholic who committed suicide partly out of existential desperation because he didn't see a point in living in a Godless universe? I suppose you won't be posting for much longer unless Hell has a decent broadband network.

Otherwise you're making a cheap shot at religion in much the same as Aki did. The former would be something I could sympathise with whilst abhorring the concept of, yet the latter is simply pathetic.

I don't know either of the answers. Then again I don't really see the value of knowing Obama's kids' names.

you don't know/get a lot of things, though; so your thoughts on my comments are irrelevant.  NEXT!

Based on your posts from around PEEL, you don't know how to capitalise a sentance, how to spell certain words, how to frame a coherent argument, how to appreciate the more intelligent jokes in Futurama, how to set yourself above the level of things like the Kardashians, or how to appreciate human beauty, music, or art. You don't know how to take logical steps forward, and you don't know "get" that your posts are rapidly becoming more and more obnoxious.

How relevant are your thoughts and opinions, bull?

Susan Boyle was referenced before on Futurama much to the chagrin of fans, just as the Kardashian reference was received.

my point still holds, though. susan boyle was never referenced in the episodes like the rest were(obama,kardashians)

I don't think you understand what a "reference" is. Name-dropping is a pretty clear reference, but clearly you missed the point where Leela said that her boil was named Susan.

Susan Boyle sang on TV and went viral on the web. Leela's boil is called Susan, sings, and went viral over Fry's "twit" feed. It's a pretty obvious reference, and I guess we can add that to the list of things that you don't know/get.

This thread has become full of insane amounts of stupid in the last couple of pages (nobody in particular, a lot of people have said a lot of stupid things), and it's making me not want to read anymore of it.

[Reply #149 on:]

the amount of stupidity you have just posted leaves me wanting to stick a q-tip in my ear and push it in as hard as possible. i'd address all of your comments, but then again i'd rather sleep with a starving, gay lion.

Have a good week! Capitalization, for the win!

[Reply #150 on:]

oh, and feel free to ban me. boo-urns to you.

[Reply #151 on:]

I have a question. Why didn't Fry know about Parade Day? He was in the future for about 12 years..shouldn't he have known about it already?

[Reply #152 on:]

Perhaps he was off-planet during Parade Day in previous years.

[Reply #153 on:]

I have a question. Why didn't Fry know about Parade Day? He was in the future for about 12 years..shouldn't he have known about it already?

I thought this was odd on my first view, too, but it's one of those things I can just accept for what the story says. It reminds me of A Taste of Freedom where Fry didn't know about Freedom Day but this was in a Season 4 episode and so he should've known about Freedom Day too.

Maybe Parade Day is held in several different locations on Earth and this was the first year Fry experienced it in NNY and nobody talked about it. I don't know, but I like new things.

[Reply #154 on:]

"Religion is the opium of the poor." - Hemingway

When Aki dropped his insult it was out of the blue, and coming from someone I felt was above such behavior.

When you did it, it was right after a discussion of said behavior, and coming from a delivery boy with 79 posts. I have never interacted with you and you certainly have never done anything to earn any respect from me. You're not upsetting anyone, you're just outing yourself as a twerp and a troll. Not even a good one.

I must admit I am of two minds about your quote of Hemingway. He was a good writer and I've enjoyed his work. Not to mention the entire world knows his name. So there's that. Then again, he was deeply disturbed. He was a depressed lifelong uncontrolled alcoholic unable to maintain healthy relationships (4 marriages! Or was it just the women at fault?) and eventually got so sick of himself that he committed suicide. Not exactly who I'd consider the right guy to consult on matters of the spirit. Couldn't you have found somebody else to quote? Someone who didn't kill himself?

And regarding Parade Day, it could be that Fry has been off-planet or just off someplace else, or playing a video game the previous years. Or maybe it IS just a continuity error for the sake of having something new under the sun.

Edit - Damn you, TNUK, for pointing out that Hemingway is not the best source of spiritual guidance while I was busy mashing my keyboard!

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Ignoring all of the recent bullsh!t being discussed on this thread...

Can ANYONE explain to me what was funny about this episode? Or why most people have scored it so high? Apparently more people liked this episode than last week's two mediocre episodes.

I mentioned in my original post about this episode, I thought this episode was the LEAST FUNNY and most uninspired and boring episode of Futurama EVER! Yes, WORSE than "That's Lobstertainment". Congratulations Patrick M. Verrone, you outdid yourself by writing the new WORST episode of Futurama (IMO).

The Robot Devil was totally wasted in this episode. He didn't do anything particularly funny. The funniest thing involving the Robot Devil was the song-that-was't; particularly that background gag with the "S.S. Anything Goes". I really wanted to hear that song! (I think that the writer contrived that because he couldn't write a song anywhere as good as Ken Keeler's songs.) And the joke about the Robot Devil's hands smelling like candy corn because of Fry was unbelievably LAME. You'd think they'd go with a crude joke about masturbation or something -- but no, they went with a lame joke that would be considered tame by a pre-schooler.

The last act was AWFUL! I don't think that I laughed (or even chuckled) once from the space port to the end. Did anyone find ANYTHING on the Amish planet funny? And please explain what exactly, and why.

The resolution to this episode was painfully predictable and contrived. And the episode ended with the worst non-joke ever. There was no button! There was an excrutiating silence, then fade to black and roll credits. It was the worst ending of any Futurama episode I've ever seen!

There was virtually nothing in this episode that I enjoyed or considered funny. Sure, there were a few funny lines -- literally a few; as in three or four parts that I laughed in the span of 22 minutes. IMO this was the least funny episode of Futurama ever!

The strange thing is, despite that I consider this episode to be the most UNFUNNY and boring episode of Futurama EVER, I'm not as angry about it as I was about IAGDL or AotKA, which were two of my least favourite episodes from last season, and Futurama ever. Those episodes were really bad, but they still were funny; the reasons why I didn't like them was because the type of humour was clichéd or crude or out-dated, beating-a-dead-horse pop culture references. Whereas this episode wasn't funny at all -- and because of that I'm somehow less angry than I was about those episodes from last season.

If there ever was an episode that deserves to be discarded from my collection and forgotten about forever, it's this one. I'm seriously considering deleting it, because I can't imagine why I'd want to watch such an unfunny and boring episode ever again.

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The point of part of the episode was not being funny. The last act of the episode is supposed to make you feel sad for Bender, because, now that he's realized how much he cherishes his relationship with Fry, he can't do anything to show Fry how much he meant to him.

On the Robot Devil, I'm tempted to use the "That's the joke" image from The Simpsons. A running gag throughout the episode is the Robot Devil wanting to sing, which also teases the audience who the writers all know would love another Robot Devil musical episode. And, by the way, Hell Is Other Robots was written by Eric Kaplan, not Ken Keeler. And you know that you would be complaining now, possibly even moreso, if the Robot Devil had said, "My hands still smell of semen."

I don't feel like going into a whole lot more detail because jokes aren't as funny to yourself when you have to explain them, so that's that for me right now.

The Kardashians are the result of television poop where cable networks are gentrifying their programming to appeal to a large swath of viewers rather than their original target audience by means of creating reality television about people who did nothing to become famous. These people still only have fifteen minutes of fame which already ran out and the channels are trying stuff them down our throats like they are actually famous people who deserve to be noticed.

I am being a jerk for ignoring your entire point and focusing on the following nitpick. Now, with that out of the way...

Oh you...

And regarding Parade Day, it could be that Fry has been off-planet or just off someplace else, or playing a video game the previous years. Or maybe it IS just a continuity error for the sake of having something new under the sun.

Agreed. One of the great things about Futurama is when Fry, being the viewers' surrogate, discovers something wacky and new about the future. Imagine "A Taste of Freedom" if he acted like he knew about it already. Imagine "Where No Fan Has Gone Before" if he already knew about Star Trek's ban. Imagine... I think you get my point. If it is a continuity error in that he's been in the future for 11 years now, I'm fine with it being a continuity error.

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I'm perfectly fine with the robot devil not talking about semen. Masturbation jokes are sometimes funny, but not everything should be a masturbation joke.

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What frustrates me about these modern pop-culture jokes is the fact that it is established in The Lesser of Two Evils that 20th century history has been terribly distorted and/or unknown to the 31st century. Stop making these jokes! At least with the Susan Boyle joke it was a reference not a flat out point-and-laugh at a current trivial person, I still hated it but at least it wasn't Susan Boyle herself.

[Reply #159 on:]

Some things survived, Spacedal... like fry's "classical music" in A Fishfull of Dollars. Professy knows about the noble but extinct poodle. etc.

I don't mind a pop-culture joke here or there. If the show comes to rely on them though... yuck. I don't think they will though.

Not to mention, the Kardashians could be around someplace, as heads in jars. They might even still be in the limelight. Look at Nixon, Hanson, and George Foreman. All relevant to the year 3000.