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Frida Waterfall
Professor
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"I, Roommate" might be one to put on the list. It does tell about how Fry got a home in the future. It's not very significant, though.
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JustNibblin
Bending Unit
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I considered "I, Roommate" and "Teenage Mutant ...". But as Frida said (love your name by the way), the plot development in IR wasn't that significant. TMLH was hard too because it was an excellent ensemble episode, but at the end no major "evolution" of the long-term story had occurred.
What do I mean by evolution? (1) A major character, or frequently recurring character, is introduced. (2) Relationships between characters are established or altered, and those changes persist past the end of the episode (Amazon women, Flight to Remember, Parasites Lost, etc.). That's why I didn't include "Head on my shoulders"--no real long-term impact other than some Freela bonding at the end. (3) Further information on the background or future of characters are revealed (Why of Fry, Leela's Homeworld). (4) Fundamental insights into a character are revealed. (The Sting, Godfellas)
So based on that I guess I should include "I, Roommmate" and "A clone of my own" after all. But TMLH still is out, unless you want to argue that Leela's final decisions reflect a realization that Planet Express is more than a job, but is a kind of family in itself. Even so, that revelation is pretty subtle and never explicitly stated.
I had a hard time with "Raging Bender," "My Three Suns", "Bicyclops," and "Cyber House Rules" as well, but cut them in the end.
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coldangel
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« Reply #13 on: 08-03-2007 20:08 »
« Last Edit on: 08-03-2007 20:08 by coldangel_1 »
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Key episodes: Every episode in the series except The Honking, which I thought was lame. Yeah, it's a good list. All my favourite episodes are in it. Although the original limited exercise might be more interesting/agonizing, if you restricted yourself to, say... five episodes of monumental importance. I'd go: SP3000 Day the Earth Stood Stupid Roswell that Ends Well The Why of Fry Devil's HandsThere. See if you too can cauterize your favourite show to such an extent. It's painful good fun.
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Frida Waterfall
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« Reply #14 on: 08-03-2007 20:42 »
« Last Edit on: 08-03-2007 20:42 »
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Originally posted by coldangel_1: Key episodes: Every episode in the series except The Honking, which I thought was lame.
Yeah, it's a good list. All my favourite episodes are in it. Although the original limited exercise might be more interesting/agonizing, if you restricted yourself to, say... five episodes of monumental importance.
I'd go:
SP3000 Day the Earth Stood Stupid Roswell that Ends Well The Why of Fry Devil's Hands
There. See if you too can cauterize your favourite show to such an extent. It's painful good fun. I like Cold Angel's list alot. It's short, but all the episodes on it are very important to the overall plotline. Most importantly, you're not messing around with others, such as Cubert and the Amy and Kif relationship. I'm sure if a first-time viewer of Futurama watched those episodes in that order will be able to pick up "Bender's Big Score" easily. Okay. This comment is going to be so suicidal, but I must note that I do support the Fry and Leela relationship before I go on (yes, I'm a shipper). I don't understand why people place "The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings" so high on their favorite episode list. I know it was the "last" episode, and it showed a fair (enough) conclusion to the Fry and Leela relationship, but there wasn't much of a chase or romantic tension like other episodes. I would find "Time Keeps on Slippin'" or "The Sting" to be a better choice to demonstrate the Fry/Leela relationship. Thinking about it, the two best episodes to introduce a person the the Fry and Leela relationship would be "A Flight to Remember" or "Xmas Story". When I was first watching the show, I didn't get into their relationship until their moments were always interrupted. Originally posted by JustNibblin':But as Frida said (love your name by the way) Thanks!
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JustNibblin
Bending Unit
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Originally posted by ColdAngel: SP3000 Day the Earth Stood Stupid Roswell that Ends Well The Why of Fry Devil's Hands
There. See if you too can cauterize your favourite show to such an extent. It's painful good fun. It's a great try, I agree the "Nibblonian 4" is the core of the series (the IGN top 25 article said the same thing). Problem is you need to have "Series as Landed"--otherwise someone will ask "what is that red lobster thing?" You also need to have "Love's Labors Lost in Space"--otherwise someone will ask "what is this animal with an eyestalk and diapers?" Finally, to see "Devil's Hands" you need Parasites Lost, otherwise someone will ask, "what is that thing Fry is playing? What are these worms he's talking about?" So I couldn't get by with less than eight: SP3000 Series has Landed Love's Labor Lost Parasites Lost Day the Earth Stood Stupid Roswell that Ends Well The Why of Fry Devil's Hands Originally posted by Frida Waterfall: I don't understand why people place "The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings" so high on their favorite episode list. For myself, I love opera, love "Faust," love singing in cartoons, and love Chris Tyung's 15 second score at the very end of the episode. If I had to choose a single Fry/Leela episode, it would be "Parasite's Lost". It has everything.
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Frida Waterfall
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If the Galactic Space Entinity is to make a return appearance in the movies, you might want to include "Godfellas" on your list.
If you are going to have "The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings", you might also want to think about adding "Hell is Other Robots" to your list, too. It does give background information on the Robot Devil and Bender's "internal damnation".
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FuturamaPac
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That's a good list Just Nibblin'. Although, why is Amazon Women In The Mood there? It probably has something important but I need a refresh of memory. On the other hand, I completely agree with the list.
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Frida Waterfall
Professor
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Y'know, you could knock nine down to seven if you replace "The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings" with another Fry and Leela relationship-happy episode, such as "Time Keeps on Slipping" (it's probably the best choice). That way, you don't have to include "Hell is Other Robots" and "Parasites Lost" to your list. The goal is to keep the list as short as possible, but still hit key events in the overall plotline in the series, right?
You still might want "Godfellas" in your mix. Like I stated before, the episode is religious-heavy and includes the GSE (Galactic Space Entinity).
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FuturamaPac
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Originally posted by JustNibblin': FuturamaPac: In "Amazon" Kif and Amy begin dating.
*clicks fingers* also, after watching it yesterday, I thought if the Amazon Women were to make a reappearance, then that would be a key episode.
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akachris1
Crustacean
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The episode A Head In the Polls sets up the charecter of Richard Nixon's Head as president of Earth for the rest of the series. I think that moves the plot on because he appears in many other episodes.
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bend_her
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If the movies explore Fry/Leela to any extent, I think you'd need "The Devil's Hands...". Of course, that's assuming that the writers want to carry that story arc forward, and not start over with Fry begging Leela for a date. If they've been reading these (and other) fan forums, it's a no-brainer which direction they'd take, so I'd keep "The Devil's Hands..." on the list, just to keep hope alive.
Also, it seems to me like the Robot Devil and Robot Hell are characters/places that don't really need an introduction. Aren't they self-explanatory?
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