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Gurman169

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« Reply #40 on: 09-20-2006 17:09 »

Lol yea you got me once again
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« Reply #41 on: 09-20-2006 17:57 »
« Last Edit on: 09-20-2006 17:57 »

 
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Originally posted by The_Black_Smoke:

Whatever. I'm getting pretty bored of YOU replying to my thread all the time. If you don't like my 'elite membership' or any of my other sections on the site, just don't say anything. I don't really care what YOU think of my site. You're just 1 person.

OK, then I give something else to shoot at.

Terel is a very highly appreciated PEEL'er and also the moderator of another Futurama board.Any advice that he gives should be highly appreciated and coveted.

Anyway, if it gets back to FOX and RDS that you're offering downloads of episodes, I promise that a 'Cease and Desist' order will be the least of your problems.

If you continue to give Terel grief for giving you friendly advice, you can be sure your account will be banned.

At this point you've given me no reason to look at your board and several not to.

I'm sure that most of the old timers feel the same way.

The_Black_Smoke

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« Reply #42 on: 09-20-2006 18:01 »

Okay. Sorry to have bothered you all.
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« Reply #43 on: 09-20-2006 18:54 »

 
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Originally posted by CrapBag:
I joined because I liked the atmosphere PEEL creates, the people here are mostly nice. And it's quite active even though the creator is long gone.
I dont join other Futurama forums.

Me neither. In fact, I find it difficult to join other forums any more, PEEL's got something none of them have. I think Ralph nailed it with the word "community".

Group hug?

The_Black_Smoke, you're no Futurama fan.

"Jim, do you ever post anything relevant, EVER?" - Punching Bag

Expect gaps between posts. And I'm not talking size here.
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« Reply #44 on: 09-20-2006 19:02 »

 
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Group hug?

Sure, but no kissing and especially no tongue...

TriggerHappyJim

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« Reply #45 on: 09-20-2006 19:09 »
« Last Edit on: 09-20-2006 19:09 »

What do you understand by "hug" Mr. paranoid?   tongue
The_Black_Smoke

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« Reply #46 on: 09-21-2006 08:17 »

lol
Gurman169

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« Reply #47 on: 09-21-2006 14:33 »

Up you got me.
jle1993

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« Reply #48 on: 09-22-2006 16:44 »

Okay, now I know a lot of you oldtimers like PEEL's community spirit, but shouldn't we be speading that? What chance does Futurama have if the fans won't unite to a common cause? The Fans cause is to watch and enjoy episodes and spread to word. If we join at different boards we can hold dicusstions with more people.

Take me, when I'm on PEEL I can talk to people like Venus or Spacecase or Ralph, hardcore fans who have been there longer.

On the other hand, on the futurama fanboard, I can talk to The_Black_Smoke and Gurman, aswell as other newer fans who haven't discovered PEEL but have discovered Futurama. It may not be as big as PEEL be I assure you there is a commity spirit there too, the oldtime hardcore fans can mix with newbies and help them.

Don't the older fans have a unwritten duty to reach out to the new fans and guide them? If we have to join different boards to do that, then I say join the boards. It isn't betraying PEEL, it's helping bring forth a new wave of fans.

I don't know if any of you will listen to me, but I intend to join up to different boards and find those new fans, it is up to you whether you come with me.
CartmanRulz
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« Reply #49 on: 09-22-2006 17:16 »
« Last Edit on: 09-22-2006 17:16 by Nixorbo »

  mad
Teral

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« Reply #50 on: 09-22-2006 17:25 »

 
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Originally posted by The_Black_Smoke:
Whatever. I'm getting pretty bored of YOU replying to my thread all the time.

Your thread? That's a good one!

If you don't want people to reply to a thread, dont't create one. Anyway, I've made exactly 3 posts in this thread: 1 to give you what I believe is constrcutive criticism, a second one to give more hints (and the bumping thing) and finally one to say you're in violation of PEEL rules and that providing free access to Futurama episodes is illegal and in my view against the interests of the show.

If you only wanted to hear "this rulez", "awesome!!!111one" and other yes-men behavior  sorry to disappoint you.

 
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If you don't like my 'elite membership' or any of my other sections on the site, just don't say anything.

Yeah, silly me for trying to help another Futurama website, by giving some feedback on what I think would make a message board attractive. What on Earth was I thinking? The best way to help other Futurama websites is to ignore them? Must make a mental note of that one.

 
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I don't really care what YOU think of my site. You're just 1 person.

I don't know, you seem pretty worked up about it.

All I know is I've seen many, many Futurama forums pop up over the last 5 years. I tried advicing them all on how I, as a potential member, imagined a messageboard to be like. They all have two things in common: they all reacted exactly like you do (getting hostile and attacking me) and they are all dead! Enjoy.

 
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Originally posted by Gurman169:
Oh wow not in a god way I never heard that term before

When you can write a flawless sentence in Danish you get to make fun of my typos.

 
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Don't the older fans have a unwritten duty to reach out to the new fans and guide them?

At one point I thought so too. But then I grew tired of being attacked, flamed and vilfied for not "being a real fan" or "wanting to change everything" (actual quotes from actual debates on now defunct boards). I mean, in the begining I joined every Futurama board I could find. I gave them constructive criticism on what I, as an individual and a member, thought would be the ideal way to organise a board (the first rule: first make a website, then you make a forum). I never said they had to do what I told them, I only sugested it. They all took offense. As I said, they're all dead now. At one point you just stop caring.

As for The_Black_Smoke and Gurman169 they have given me exactly zero reason to join their board and about a zillion not to (primarily the violation of copyrights).
CartmanRulz
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« Reply #51 on: 09-22-2006 17:27 »
« Last Edit on: 09-22-2006 17:27 by Nixorbo »

  tongue
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« Reply #52 on: 09-22-2006 17:36 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
 At one point I thought so too. But then I grew tired of being attacked, flamed and vilfied for not "being a real fan" or "wanting to change everything" (actual quotes from actual debates on now defunct boards). I mean, in the begining I joined every Futurama board I could find. I gave them constructive criticism on what I, as an individual and a member, thought would be the ideal way to organise a board (the first rule: first make a website, then you make a forum). I never said they had to do what I told them, I only sugested it. They all took offense. As I said, they're all dead now. At one point you just stop caring.

Teral, you have to believe in the greater good here, I know it sound easy for me to say it but I do understand on this.

The people that take offence are in one of two groups, missguided or insecure. The missguided ones think that they know everything. The insecure ones can seem like the misguided but really they're defensive because someone important like you can come seem like you're shooting them down when your not, and it knocks their self confidense.

What we need to do here is carry on believing and trying to seperate the misguided from the insecure and help who we can. Sure we'll get shoot at, but in the long run, i believe that if we can help even a small number of new fans then it will all be worth it. Reach inside yourself and if you can't care for the fans care for yourself, help me help them, and it will all be worrth it.

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« Reply #53 on: 09-22-2006 18:31 »

No offense jle1993, but there's no greater good being served here.  If The_Black_Smoke simply wanted to be part of a community, he can be part of this one.  He found his way here easily enough, and there's no reason why other newbies shouldn't.

Instead he sets up a forum he thinks is going to make him God's gift to Futurama fans, fills it with crap gimmicks, and since he has no community of his own advertises on PEEL to try and leech off ours.  Then when Teral makes some legitimate criticisms, Black_Smoke throws his toys out the pram and attacks him.
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« Reply #54 on: 09-22-2006 19:19 »
« Last Edit on: 09-23-2006 00:00 »

forum closed
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« Reply #55 on: 09-22-2006 19:24 »
« Last Edit on: 09-22-2006 19:24 »

and no offence smokey but you site doesnt have atmosphere to it. its the colours i reckon. peel has inviting and calm colours where yours looks like cold steel(excuse the punn). blue is a great colour for chatrooms because you can ignore it if you want to unlike red or grey which stands out. but im going to join to check it out
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« Reply #56 on: 09-22-2006 21:31 »
« Last Edit on: 09-25-2006 00:00 »

get a job Black_smoke
Gurman169

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« Reply #57 on: 09-24-2006 11:01 »

BUMP
The_Black_Smoke

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« Reply #58 on: 09-24-2006 18:35 »

Thank you for joining!
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« Reply #59 on: 09-24-2006 19:34 »
« Last Edit on: 09-24-2006 19:34 by totalnerduk »

 
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Originally posted by jle1993:
Don't the older fans have a unwritten duty to reach out to the new fans and guide them?

No.

We have no obligations to new fans. If they seek us out, then they have followed their obligations to point a. If they choose to integrate themselves into PEEL painlessly and not behave like a Yardstick or a SuperFry, then they have followed their obligations all the way to the end. That is the extent of any obligation.

It is your duty to yourself not to join a thinly-disguised version of the SuperFriends. Because hopefully, PEELers have more respect for themselves.

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« Reply #60 on: 09-25-2006 01:08 »

I think we've gone pretty far in accepting new people into this community anyway, we do go that extra mile, I reckon.  I wouldn't have been here for four years if not.  We were all newbies once.

I agree with Fred, if the forum was so great it'd speak for itself, and you wouldn't be trying to leech members from PEEL.

Also, the messageboard is only the surface with PEEL, otherwise why would we have had UK Meets, European Meets, US Meets, Australian Meets, Trans-atlantic Meets, Worldwide Meets, two PEEL weddings, and one PEEL baby.
The_Black_Smoke

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« Reply #61 on: 09-25-2006 03:43 »

I am not leeaching. I am advertising. How can i get my site to speak for itself if no one knows it exists?
Melllvar

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« Reply #62 on: 09-25-2006 05:05 »

1) Advertising is against forum rules.

2) Register your site with search engines.

3) Be patient.
The_Black_Smoke

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« Reply #63 on: 09-25-2006 05:18 »

Actually it isn't against the rules. If you look a couple of threads down i started a thread ASKING whether i could make this one.
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« Reply #64 on: 09-25-2006 05:31 »

grope about The_Black_Smoke:


 
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Originally posted by The_Black_Smoke:
I don't really care what YOU think of my site. You're just 1 person.

why the hell would you open a tread about it then???. never insult my fellow PEELers or I'll go chainsaw massacure on you ass  mad and I'll tell people how crap your forum is and no-one will visit it  evil laugh

 
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Originally posted by The_Black_Smoke:
Whatever. I'm getting pretty bored of YOU replying to my thread all the time. If you don't like my 'elite membership' or any of my other sections on the site, just don't say anything.

It's our right to be pissed off and voice our opinion. The idea of "elite membership" is discriminating to other users of the forum  no no

 
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Originally posted by The_Black_Smoke:
 I am not leeaching. I am advertising. How can i get my site to speak for itself if no one knows it exists?

advertising is the worst bloody thing on the whole dam planet.
1# it leeches bandwith
2# its annoying and dangerous (see "Leela's Homeworld" episode
3# about a million other sites advertise too  cry (sooooooooo annoying)
4# its boring  sleep
ect....

i hope i have contrubuted to the nonsensicalness of this tread.  roll eyes
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« Reply #65 on: 09-25-2006 12:27 »

 
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Originally posted by The_Black_Smoke:
Actually it isn't against the rules. If you look a couple of threads down i started a thread ASKING whether i could make this one.

Well, shut my mouth!  roll eyes

Anyhoo, here's a friendly piece of advice from someone who's been half-way around the world meeting people from PEEL.  To create a community takes time, you can't do it overnight.  While I applaud your tanacity in flogging this particular venture, insulting and attacking members of PEEL is not the way to go about it.

You really ought to spend more time here before doing that.  tongue
The_Black_Smoke

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« Reply #66 on: 09-25-2006 12:31 »

Sorry. I don't think i insulted members of PEEL. I know it will take time, i havn't once said or incinuated that it would be done over night.
Melllvar

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« Reply #67 on: 09-25-2006 12:40 »

Well, reading through the thread I've seen many many "bumps", that indicated a certain impatience on your part.

You should take Terals advice, allow people to lurk your forum, don't have "elite members", hierachy sucks ass, to be honest, everyone should be the same, regardless of status.

Oh, and register with as many search engines as you can.  Then wait.
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« Reply #68 on: 09-25-2006 12:56 »

totalnerduk, just coz some people have wide enough minds not to trap themselves in one site doesn't mean they don't have respect for themselves, they just like talking to new people. Just coz your're such a jerk that you can't see that doesn't mean we all are.  up yours
The_Black_Smoke

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« Reply #69 on: 09-25-2006 12:57 »
« Last Edit on: 09-25-2006 12:57 »

I have registered with Yahoo, Ask and Google.
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« Reply #70 on: 09-25-2006 16:03 »

If you wanted to advertise properly, what you should do is put a link in your sig and post on various forums.  That way it's not in people's faces, and get integrate into their community while giving your own a plug.

Simple and effective.  Like me, only effective.
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« Reply #71 on: 09-25-2006 17:03 »

All of the threads were 'Must be registered to view' i'm not registering to a forum i can't lurk in first.
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« Reply #72 on: 09-25-2006 17:27 »
« Last Edit on: 09-25-2006 17:27 »

in australia it costs $50 for season 2. say you had all the episodes in season 2 on your site.

if 10 people see them futurama loses $500
if 100 people watch it futurama loses $5000
if 1000 people watch it futurama loses $50,000
if 100,000 people watch it futurama loses $5,000,000.
lets say the greedy fox gets 25% (1.5 mil)
futurama gets 3.5 million dollars to make more eps(or split between everyone)

so you little website could cost futurama and associates , $5,000,000 australian(dont get me started if you had every episode   roll eyes )
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« Reply #73 on: 09-25-2006 22:01 »

I agree with BLB. If you're hosting or providing links to all or even most of a particular seasons episodes you are doing more harm to the Futurama community than good. Shame!
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« Reply #74 on: 09-26-2006 00:02 »

5 million dollars  cry
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« Reply #75 on: 09-26-2006 00:46 »

That's like what, $20 American?

OH SNAP.

Regardless, illegal Futurama = bad.
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« Reply #76 on: 09-26-2006 01:35 »

still 2 million US
Fry007

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« Reply #77 on: 09-26-2006 05:33 »

According to conversation rates
BLB its about $4 million US
And what about the Kmart 15% store wide
don't the futurama people lose less money hehe
And mind you i'm aussie for the other people and the convertion rate is bout $1 aus for 75cents US.
and i agree with you Nixorbo illegal futurama could cripple what is a great tv show!!!
The_Black_Smoke

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« Reply #78 on: 09-26-2006 16:26 »

 
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All of the threads were 'Must be registered to view' i'm not registering to a forum i can't lurk in first.
Did you actually view the site? If you did you would have seen there are 31 topics and only 10 of them were 'must be registered to view'.
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« Reply #79 on: 09-26-2006 17:57 »

 
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Originally posted by Fry007:

And what about the Kmart 15% store wide
don't the futurama people lose less money hehe

No, futurama wouldn't lose money if there was a 15% discount. k-mart would essentially lose money. But more people would buy it because its cheaper and kmart actually earns more money than it loses from the 15% discount. lets say k-mart buys season 2 from where ever they do for $35 and sells it at $50 making $15 but with the 15% discount lets say they make $5. usually 10 people buy it a week so they make $150 but with the discount 50 buy it in one week so they make $250.
  laff
so in the end everyone is happy  big grin
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