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Eternium

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« Reply #40 on: 03-09-2013 15:36 »

haha! That * laff
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« Reply #41 on: 03-09-2013 15:40 »

Nice.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #42 on: 03-17-2013 14:21 »
« Last Edit on: 05-21-2013 00:07 »

@Eternium, Bendrino>Thanks:)

So, the comic started one year ago, and I feel the need to add some final thoughts about the new pages:

Cover:  It's of course unusual to have the cover after some pages. Yet, I wanted to Intro Chapter on Amazonia as some "Cold Opening", about the same way Elizabeth Swan found the Aztec Amulett in "Pirates of the Carribean", to be followed by the Intro credits.
The cover features the major characters, yet, there was not enough room for all of them (e.g. Zapp Brannigan and Glab).

Page19: Was glad I finally could abandon the "Kid Amazonian" plot. It was a necessary introduction, but yet - I finally needed to get back to the major characters. As some folks (mostly the ladies smile)  commented: I let "30" play in a time in which Fry and Leela are already together. Fry chasing after Leela has imhO been done enough times. Also, commited couples are better to get unto each others nerves.
Little detail: You can see Tank from Butterjunk effect (who will be a minor recurring char in 30) with her son among the passer-bys. The sad expression was done on purpose.

Page 20: Must admit I am a big fan of the French U-Comix (U = Underground. Rather silly and exaggerated). Those comics often featured random, silly background gimmicks. The "walking on eggshells" scene was one of them.

Page 21-22: The mall (inside and outside) was based on pics of real malls. Yet, the inside and outside belonged to different malls.
I noticed that -when I have a big "middle pic" I often do the framing pics a bit more lazily (less background).

Page 23: The "Big Meme is watching you" pic showed one typical strategy. The plot itself did not contain too much humor, but rather resembled a briefing (which it basically was). Therefore, background gimmicks and shenanigans must be used to uphold the humor level. Also, kudos here to Tachyon for helping me finding a term for the correct pun. (Wanted to go for "Guns" -which would have worked in German- but he informed me that this term in American would rather apply to a biceps).

Page 24-25:  I must admit I considered lots of possibilities how to give Fry the gun. At first, I wanted to make him rush back to Leelas place, getting one of her weapons. Much to her confusion/wonder, as a ragged Fry in his underpants searching for a gun is eligible to make everyone nervous, I guess. The scene also would have allowed a quoatition of a famous Simpson dialog. "Fry, you are up to something stupid, are you" "Leela...I do not want to lie to you", and wondering off without any further comment.
Yet, in the overall context, I did not want to have Fry leaving his starting place, to run back there as soon as problems arise. "Let the plot, and also the character run", so to speak. Therefore, Fry will not return to Leela until the "Valentine's Day problem" is solved. Anything else would not have made sense.

Page 26: As stated before: I wanted Fry to have the gun, trying to set it to stun, trying to send other to sleep. A "let a character start his own problems/plot" device, so to speak. Yet, it would not have looked like Fry,
and therefore needed Bender to bring the Gun into play. Also Bender would be the only one setting it to "kill", shooting down the candelabra. Aslo, I decided to leave Fry's eye hanging out, until someone will take properly care of it:)

Page 27: Much dialoge, isn't it? wink Worked a bit with the frame, that were supposed to look like shattered glas.

Page 28: Cliffhanger like ending, and perfect opportunity to switch to another scene.

Page 29: I wanted to lash out at the media. Their behaviour in the George Zimmerman/Tryvon Martin gave me that idea. The headlines were basically "He shot him because he was black". Really? Shouldn't that be a courts job to find out? Shouldn't a witnesses job be to supply the observed informations?  How tall/heavy/intimidating were both persons involved, were there any injuries, was one of them or both under drugs, did one or both of them have a criminal recored for illegal weapon possesion/assault/etc....? Yet, the beginning was "He shot him because he was black", and -as that theme was likely to cause an uproar- much of the media behaviour was "We see only what we want to see".

Page30: First page without any background at all. Some more media bashing, basically done by Abner. I must admit I consider myself a rather honest person. Therefore, the whole media bashing is not really subtle, but rather "straight in your face". Well...South Park does basically the same, and they have enogh fans. So, some random guy drawing fan cartoons in his spare time should be entitled the same allowances, I guess wink

Page31-34 Another of those A2 Mega-Pages. (I just like that format wink ). Fry comes back to the plot, and leaved immediatelly again;)
I wanted to go for "Fry has a minor task", and will manage to cause as much chaos as possible. And getting some "Last Minute Valentine's Day flowers" is not really something that unusualy, I guess.
Linda's second job as hooker was basically the end of my media behaviour bashing. Subtle as usual smile The big house at the lower right corner was modelled after one from my hometown, that stands at the limits of the right lights district (which is basically 100 meters of streets, with sight blockers, and mostly used by studens as a short cut to university when they are late. Not really what you consider an impressive underworld, I guess... wink)

Page 35-36: I must admit "Butterjunk Effect" was far from a favorite episode. Yet, the character of "Tank" was just perfect. I needed some "down on his/her luck" character, on a "will go to the extreme" task. And a mother trying to save her terminally ill child will probably not consider any action unacceptable. Unfortunately, I did spend too much time on that supporting character than I wanted. Yet, I want to give everyone in the comic an own agenda/motive/goal. Supporting characters should not just "pop up", with the reader wondering "who is this person". But rather -when that person interacts with others- the reader should know what this guy/gal wants.So, in order to save her child, it's obvious that this character will go to extremes. An ally that will immediatelly backstab you, as soon as she suspects your enemies might be more suitable to help her achieve her goal. A character that will ALWAYS be driven by her motive, and under no condition deviate from it.
Also, as the plot loses much of his humor (let's face it: A mother trying to get into prostitution to get the hospital bill for her terminally ill child is not really gold comedy material), I once again increased the number of gimmicks/cameos. The brother/strip club scene is probably my record so far.

37: I must admit: I wondered quite a while how someone could tell about her dying child, yet to keep some jokes in those panels. Wanted to have generic  that doc from "Cold Warriors" first to bring the news, and Cahill to tend after Tanks injuries later. I took quite a while until I got the idea to use Tank's episode dialoge, ("got a little boy at home who is dying", and this time it is to be taken literally) and let Linda's "Ooopsie" lead to a typical Cahill behaviour (acting like the blonde bimbo in a rather serious situation) in the flashback.
Also, little poke at Groening and Cohen.
That joke is basically rather a parody on Futurama itself. Many early Futuram episodes feature a blatant "Women are much better than men" undertone. So, they will have to stand being questioned in a joking image, wether these plots were born because of a masochistic character wink

38: Completely random girl-on-girl scene. But needed it later, and another page that featured only "background gimmicks" otherwise.

39: Bender's return to the plot, and the Space Pirates first appearrance in the comic. As the cover shows Emperor Grog in a duel with Leela, it's obvious he will required some page presence.

40: And Bender's departure from the plot again;)

41-43: Emperor Grog will take the role of a "Boss Monster" (though not the biggest one). Therefore, the following pages should establish him as some close combatant to be reckoned with. He finished of Tank with one hand, and Leela stood no chance against Tank. Message: Whenever there will be a fight against Grog, it will certainly NOT be shouting "Hi-Ya", and laying him down with one kick. That strategy will rather be suicide. So, whenever a direct confrontation with Grog takes place, a plan and strategy will be needed.

44: Callback to that stupid boob holding scene before. The opportunity to raise the hospital money of 98.765,43 passing Tank by is a joke I got from the German comedy "Otto, der Film". The protagonist was basically a dumb, but well meaning/nice loser. He was in debt (9.876,50 Mark, yep that movie is old). And evertime he did something decent/nice, he learned later in hindsight that being an asshole would have lead to him getting the needed money. Okay, Tank is not really nice person, but yet, I wanted that joke smile

45-46: So, I spent enough time on the supporting chars, let's get back to the main folks. In "Futurama Space Battle", I showed the Pirates being taken down by Fry (without him basically knowing).
Again, they suffer from collateral damage caused by Fry, again without him really noticing (he got other things to worry about). A running gag I will repeat, that scene will certainly not be the last time the Pirates are taken down by Fry in a "collateral damage" way.

So, that was the first year of "30". Hope you enjoyed it so far.
On the next pages, the main characters (Fry, Bender, Leela and a imho rather popular villain from the show) will take over.
The next 8-12(?) pages will be Fry, then 4 pages of Bender, and then Leela will join the plot (which is about time, as she has not spoken a word in the comic so far;) ). Well..I rather wanted to wait to "activate" that character when there is something for her to do. Instead of bringing that character in play, to have her stand around without anything to do.
totalnerduk

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« Reply #43 on: 04-27-2013 15:51 »

Nice crack in the fourth wall with the latest one.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #44 on: 04-28-2013 18:11 »

Thx:) Though -tbh- that was just a throwaway joke drawn in 2 minutes.
I just did not want to drawn another piece of biomechanical structure, so I opted for that pic wink
laurenSmiles1

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« Reply #45 on: 05-01-2013 08:34 »

Loving the comic, loving how you add comedy and it's not just he same old boring storyline, like you get in normal comics.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #46 on: 05-01-2013 20:09 »
« Last Edit on: 05-02-2013 00:41 »

Loving the comic, loving how you add comedy and it's not just he same old boring storyline, like you get in normal comics.

Thanks:) Might even add a page later that evening (Why did I write so? Because I am a tad lazy right now. But de facto already "announcing" a new page might put some pressure on me to finish it today. On the other hand, should I FAIL to produce another update, I will look like someone with just a big mouth who gets nothing acutally done. Well...so what? This is probably still not the worst impression certain folks on Peel might have on me... big grin tongue)
totalnerduk

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« Reply #47 on: 05-01-2013 23:48 »

Thx:) Though -tbh- that was just a throwaway joke drawn in 2 minutes.
I just did not want to drawn another piece of biomechanical structure, so I opted for that pic wink

Sometimes it's last minute touches like that which make or break a piece. It made me laugh, anyway.

The new one... ... ... I admire your laziness.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #48 on: 05-02-2013 22:03 »
« Last Edit on: 05-02-2013 23:37 »


Sometimes it's last minute touches like that which make or break a piece.

Certainly. Though I do hope -in this case- a re-imagined Robot Hell Giger style A2 size will also work without some final gag wink
totalnerduk

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« Reply #49 on: 05-04-2013 19:50 »

Cherry on the cake, Hein. Cherry on the cake.
Eternium

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« Reply #50 on: 05-06-2013 22:03 »

Hey it's Svip's avatar ^^
This is so awsome!  love

[leela]"Keep 'em coming!"[/leela]
Tachyon

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« Reply #51 on: 05-06-2013 22:32 »


Yeah, I finally noticed the Svippy reference on my third viewing, and it gave me a big grin smile

Tastes Like Fry

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« Reply #52 on: 05-07-2013 04:31 »

Decorate! Decorate!

Many lols in the newest update, love it.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #53 on: 05-12-2013 13:51 »

Hey it's Svip's avatar ^^
This is so awsome!  love
[leela]"Keep 'em coming!"[/leela]

Thanks:) Don't worry,  that comic will go on for quite a while smile
(2 more years at least, I guess).

Yeah, I finally noticed the Svippy reference on my third viewing, and it gave me a big grin smile

First, I wanted to do TNUK's grumpy cat avatar. But it would not have looked good reduced to that size.

Decorate! Decorate!

Many lols in the newest update, love it.

Thanks:)
Farnsworth38

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« Reply #54 on: 05-20-2013 18:05 »

Bonus points awarded for the appearance of Morgan Proctor.  smile
laurenSmiles1

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« Reply #55 on: 05-23-2013 09:31 »

Really nice comic pages Hein, can't wait to see what happens next smile

Sorry I haven't been able to comment until now, my computer has been acting up again.
Anna3000

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« Reply #56 on: 05-25-2013 23:15 »

Hein, your comic is amazing! The level of detail you put in is awesome, and I love the humor  smile I never would have imagined the characters drawn in the style you have, and they look great!
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #57 on: 05-26-2013 20:20 »

Thanks at all:)
@Farnsworth38>Okay. I'll try to find out what kind of points those are exactly, and what to do with them wink Also, first commentors in this thread are always important to me (to figure out who is reading that thing at all wink)
@laurenSmiles1>Okay, one new page today then wink
Also, hope your computer problems are solved by now.
@Anna3000>Thanks smile Good to hear that the humor seems also be all right. I admit that I -style and storytellingwise- did not remotely even TRY to go for the original;) Trying to stick close to it, but adding my own twist whenever I feel in the mood smile
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #58 on: 05-29-2013 19:59 »
« Last Edit on: 05-29-2013 21:07 »

I decided to read your comic finally and I have to say it simply is good. How long it's going to be? Seems like it's not nearly in the end yet.

All those cameos and background jokes are very amusing. Also details. Actually, details and background jokes remind me of Don Rosa's Donald Duck comics:
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #59 on: 05-29-2013 22:46 »
« Last Edit on: 05-29-2013 22:50 »

I decided to read your comic finally and I have to say it simply is good. How long it's going to be? Seems like it's not nearly in the end yet.

Thanks smile
Nope, not remotely in the end. Roughly 1/6th of the comic is complete by now.


All those cameos and background jokes are very amusing. Also details. Actually, details and background jokes remind me of Don Rosa's Donald Duck comics:

Yep, there is indeed a certain similarity. Though Rosa was never a source of inspiration for me. I was influenced by the French U-Comix, Mad Magazine, the Franco-Belgian Fantasy scene ("Black Moon Chronicles", "Lanfeust of Troy", "Asterix", of course, etc...).
Well..maybe some of those artists themselves were infuenced by Don Rosa, so he might still be an indirect inspirational source for me, after all wink
laurenSmiles1

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« Reply #60 on: 05-31-2013 00:42 »

The comic is really along, you should be proud of yourself. The details in your work is outstanding. smile
Eternium

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« Reply #61 on: 05-31-2013 22:04 »

THANK INQUISITOR HEIN YOU FIXED HIS EYE! big grin
totalnerduk

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« Reply #62 on: 06-01-2013 16:30 »

Saw the thing about the flowers and the she-devils coming a mile off. Still made me laugh.

These are really something special.
laurenSmiles1

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« Reply #63 on: 06-01-2013 19:04 »

Now that's a smart dressed Fry! I hope the opera turns out well, he deserves something good happen in his life. smile
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #64 on: 06-02-2013 20:24 »
« Last Edit on: 06-03-2013 09:35 »

THANK INQUISITOR HEIN YOU FIXED HIS EYE! big grin

You're welcome smile

Saw the thing about the flowers and the she-devils coming a mile off. Still made me laugh.

These are really something special.

About "Saw it coming": Sometimes, you just have to put Wile E Coyote facing towards the canyon, and let a "MeepMeep" be heard wink

Now that's a smart dressed Fry! I hope the opera turns out well, he deserves something good happen in his life. smile

Something good will happend to Fry in his next longer plotline.
Yet, I have to warn you: I will not be lenient on the characters.
Well..."Everybody is always happy and does neither face, nor overcome problems" would make a weak plot anyway, right? wink
totalnerduk

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« Reply #65 on: 06-02-2013 20:27 »
« Last Edit on: 06-02-2013 20:28 »

Haha. Cocknipple! I love it! Can we expect more of that sort of coded swearing?

Hm. Having thought about it a little, I'm now wondering if they're saying "cockbottle", or "cockbaby" or something that might make more sense in German.

But I immediately "solved" the puzzle with cocknipple, which I think is a pretty fine insult.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #66 on: 06-02-2013 20:30 »
« Last Edit on: 06-02-2013 20:35 »

I admit to having stolen that joke from "South Park" (The Bin Laden episode in which Cartman displayed some Bugs Bunny like behaviour), and I guess they meant "sucker".

I have one coded swearing left in the pipeline. Yet, those are the kind of "random background gimmicks", which do not impede the main plot too much, and can easily be added to a pic. So, should I find other coded swearings, I will certainly incorporate them.
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #67 on: 06-08-2013 23:09 »
« Last Edit on: 06-09-2013 10:40 »

I say your fanservice WAS NOT OBVIOUS ENOUGH.
El-Man

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« Reply #68 on: 06-08-2013 23:11 »
« Last Edit on: 06-08-2013 23:16 »

Nice, Herr Hein.

I wonder if Leela's scream was for 'there's a car in my apartment!' or 'flowers AND chocolate?!?'.

E: BTW, what's the meaning of 'Ach' in German? Like 'Oh' in English?
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #69 on: 06-09-2013 07:42 »
« Last Edit on: 06-09-2013 07:50 »

I say your fanservice WAS NOT OBVIOUS ENOUGH.


Then it seems I was -once again- too subtle big grin

Nice, Herr Hein.

I wonder if Leela's scream was for 'there's a car in my apartment!' or 'flowers AND chocolate?!?'.

E: BTW, what's the meaning of 'Ach' in German? Like 'Oh' in English?

Thanks.
The scream is due to the car.
I meant the Scottish "Ach". Though the German version -in this context- means bascially the same.
laurenSmiles1

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« Reply #70 on: 06-09-2013 22:42 »

I love the new Pages Hein, I just feel sorry for the wall with no detail. smile
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #71 on: 06-10-2013 09:44 »

I love the new Pages Hein, I just feel sorry for the wall with no detail. smile

Thanks:)
Yep, Leela's place is not really much to go with when it comes to detail...
laurenSmiles1

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« Reply #72 on: 06-18-2013 16:33 »

''I'm Batman!''
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #73 on: 06-18-2013 18:11 »

"smells like uncle Zoid"
...I see what you did there.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #74 on: 06-19-2013 12:20 »

''I'm Batman!''

You are? Then let me tell you: Your last movie was horrible.. tongue

"smells like uncle Zoid"
...I see what you did there.

Well..was not the most subtle joke smile
laurenSmiles1

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« Reply #75 on: 06-19-2013 15:47 »

''I'm Batman!''
You are? Then let me tell you: Your last movie was horrible.. tongue

I'm sorry but it was everyone else's fault, not mine. Blame them! smile
totalnerduk

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« Reply #76 on: 06-24-2013 05:49 »

The Human Centipede... doesn't look as nasty as I thought it would.

"Fan disservice" is still the right description though. no no
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #77 on: 06-25-2013 17:44 »
« Last Edit on: 06-26-2013 00:32 »

The Human Centipede... doesn't look as nasty as I thought it would.

"Fan disservice" is still the right description though. no no

I assume most folks here will consider the Family Guy-esque flashback scene and Peter Griffin's cameo presence the nastiest things in the pic wink
Little background info: It's said the they had the idea for "Human Centipede" when discussing (alcohol was involved) what to do with pedophiles. "Saw their mouth to the ass of a fat trucker with digestion problems" was the winner. That's why I chose Sal and Herbert the Pervert.

Btw..Zoidberg's office in that pic is a mixture of a black and white design sketch, and a screenshot from TotZ.
totalnerduk

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« Reply #78 on: 07-14-2013 22:27 »

Heh. Nice page, as usual. Keep 'em comin'!
Meerkat54

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« Reply #79 on: 07-24-2013 01:49 »

Why are nearly all of the characters so big and muscly? It's very... different. Great work, though. Must take ages to get those pages correct... Are you ever planning to color it once you finish the comic? Or are you just going to leave it blank? I suggest color, so things are easier to tell apart etc.

It'd take a lot of time, I know, but I think it would brighten up the comic a lot more rather than just looking all black and white. Other than that great work. smile
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