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Inquisitor Hein
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« on: 03-16-2012 23:18 »
« Last Edit on: 03-16-2012 23:52 »

So, any comments regarding my fancomic project can/should be dropped here, so the comic pages can be read without text interruptions. Thanks:)

Here is the link to the comic:
http://www.peelified.com/Futurama-Forum-6/Topic-22818-0-Inquisitor_Heins_Please.html
Beanoz4

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« Reply #1 on: 03-16-2012 23:29 »

In your other art thread you added all the pictures in order on the first post.
Could you not do the same thing with the other thread?
DannyJC13

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« Reply #2 on: 03-16-2012 23:31 »

Couldn't we just comment about 30 in your normal thread?
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #3 on: 03-16-2012 23:37 »
« Last Edit on: 03-17-2012 00:22 »

Well...the normal thread will sooner or later be filled with so many cartoons/feedback that I will have to make a new one after 20 pages.

So, when sooner or later new threads will have to be made, I might as well organizse those threads in a way that the "30" feedback "stays together" wink
totalnerduk

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« Reply #4 on: 03-17-2012 00:28 »

I'm pretty sure that there are other sites (The Futurama Madhouse, for example) where you can post comics and have them read properly.

That would probably be better than sticking all the images into one thread on PEEL.

You could post a link to it in the comments thread for the comic, so that people would be able to go see it, and make posts to say "here is the link, I have added x new pages today".

I really don't think that two seperate threads on PEEL is the best way to accomplish what you want (especially since you know people are liable to comment in the other thread just to be dicks. In fact I'm tempted to. Not to be a dick so much as to illustrate my point).

Ultimately, the decision will rest with the moderating team here as to whether this thread is merged with the other, but I dunno if they're going to be happy about a ton of extra work keeping the other one clean if people decide to spam it, or comment there for whatever they might feel is a cromulent reason.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #5 on: 03-17-2012 13:29 »

Well I love the art as usual. Plenty of detail, Planet Amazonia is really nailed!...
Solid Gold Bender

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« Reply #6 on: 03-18-2012 15:26 »

Agreed. Those tiny details really make your work shine. I'm really interested to see how you would draw an old fellow's wrinkles. The characters also look astonishing! Keep it up.big grin
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #7 on: 04-09-2012 18:29 »
« Last Edit on: 04-09-2012 18:32 »

So, the answer is a bit late, but better than never;)

Well I love the art as usual. Plenty of detail, Planet Amazonia is really nailed!...

Yep, I like details wink
Glad you like Amazonia so far, I am usually not the Jungle drawer. (In fact, I cannot even remember having to draw a jungle in a comic before, letting that one image in the "Scruffy vs Amazonians" cartoon aside.)

Agreed. Those tiny details really make your work shine. I'm really interested to see how you would draw an old fellow's wrinkles. The characters also look astonishing! Keep it up.big grin

Well...in the "wedding cartoon", you could see an old fellow by now. (Though he was not drawn exclusively for that purpose wink ). I must admit I was careful regarding the kid Amazonian's design: There was no way I would have the half-naked appearance and the raunchy jokes following the adult Amazonians on little kids.
On the other hand, completely dressed would not make them look like Amazonians any more, so this was/is the compromise I considere acceptable.  (Even at the expense of Ornik wearing some kind of Lisa Simpson Dress wink Btw..I initally planned her with much shorter hair, but that spiky head apperance really would have rendered her a black Lisa Simpson wink )
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #8 on: 05-31-2012 22:50 »
« Last Edit on: 05-31-2012 23:57 »

Yep, 14 days without a cartoon, I have been lazy.
Anyway, a little update on "30" and a premiere I wanted to share:



The early beginning of another A2 detail painting.
The premier is that this pic features two vanishing points, with one of them being out of the A2 sheet. So, I had to add an A4 sheet to have said fixed vanishing point.
Okay, it does look anything but special right now, of course, but the beginning of my first comic image for which even A2 is too small is just something I wanted to share smile


PS: You probably would not have guessed, but I plan this pic to be really detailed smile
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #9 on: 07-25-2012 22:27 »
« Last Edit on: 07-26-2012 22:47 »

So, I finished the intro chapter of "30" (The next chapter will play in the present, with the trio taking over), I would like to post some final thoughts about certain aspects of the comic:

(And of course I would appreciate other folks to post THEIR opinon here wink)

Overall, the chapter is some kind of "cold opening". Used as a setup, about the same way Elisabeth Swan found the Aztec Amulet in the beginning of "Pirates". Not too much of a plot, but necessary details that have to be used later in the story.

Basically, I wanted to raise the following questions:
- What is that lost city in Amazonia ?
- Who built it ?
- Why did the Guardian statues automatically protect the young Amazonians ?
- Why did one of them give the kids his medaillon, and what is it for? (The most important question, for that thing will be very important...and of course fall into the hand of three people with together five eyes who hardly ever create any mess... :P big grin )

So, I'll just do a commentary about certain page details and reasons why I set up the story that way:

Page 1: Kug chasing after a butterfly seemed a normal distraction for a little girl, but of course this one also covers the trope "A butterfly's wingbeat can cause a storm".

Page 3: The snake Joke was just some random sillyness. I wanted to show the audience that the Amazonians -even as kids- are capable of defending themselves. To show that the "Amazonian Devil" showed later did not chase them away because they were kids, but because it is a real tough and strong bastard. One that even adult Amazonians will avoid.

Page 4: The runes on the monolith are a REAL alphabet.

Page 5: Yep, what Thog says in the first pic is REALLY written on the monolith (expect for one spelling mistake I was too lazy to correct wink )

Page 6: Again, random sillyness. The "Bad Animal, Bad" reminded me of Eric Cartman, and I just wanted to have him as a cameo.

Page 7: "Amazonian Devil". As stated before: I stole that one from the "Catachen Devil" from the Warhammer Universe. Hinting that Amazonia might be known in the year 40.000 (when Warhammer 40K will take place) as "Catachan". An insider joke for Warhammer Fans, of course.

Page 8: I must say, the "Bad Amazonian Centipede, Bad" "Dis sounds like critique to bad fanfic 'bout a Mad doctor and dree Amazonians" was one thing about which I wondered wether I did cross the line. I wanted to have an even more pointless "Human Centipede" reference than in South Parks "The Human Centipad" (which I considered REALLY random wink ). But -having little girls refer to that horror movie, even though they just speak a few words- somehow crossed a line for me. Strange, but true...

Page 9: The Guardian Statues shoulder pads were subject to changes in the later pictures. Found that out too late, and was too lazy to correct that mistake.

Page 10: I will occasionally keep the non-rectangular page layout for action oriented scenes.

Page 11-14: One of those pages I did on A2. Perspective rules on the city took forever.
I wanted to incorporate three style: Antique (Greek/Roman) with Aztec. With some elements as you will find them on European national monuments.  

Page 16: My first pic that was not really detailed, but I was in fact yet happy with. Hooray smile

Page 17: The same tree bridge as in Page 2. I managed to keep most details in position smile

Page 18: First, I wanted to show just the legs of Kugs mother, about the same way as the housewife is shown in "Tom and Jerry" cartoons, telling Tom not to cause any mess. Yet, this would not have allowed a credible layout for Thog and Ornik putting Kug back into her mother's arms, and also hiding the found/given medaillon the same time.

So, those are my final thoughts about the intro chapter, the next one will then play in the usual Futurama setting. As this does not require a setup any more, the action will most directly start...
laurenSmiles1

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« Reply #10 on: 07-26-2012 22:09 »

I'm still loving the comics there Hein, you never fail to amaze me. smile
Beanoz4

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #11 on: 07-26-2012 23:10 »

Just read the intro chapter for the first time and the page after. And I am stunned at the detail! Page 7 and page 11-14 look absolutely stunning. Great job at telling an intriguing story! Looking forward to find out what it all has to fit in with Fry and the team smile.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #12 on: 07-27-2012 23:27 »
« Last Edit on: 07-28-2012 01:56 »

I'm still loving the comics there Hein, you never fail to amaze me. smile

Thank you smile (I'll be so vain to assume "amaze" is meant in a positive way big grin )

Just read the intro chapter for the first time and the page after. And I am stunned at the detail! Page 7 and page 11-14 look absolutely stunning. Great job at telling an intriguing story! Looking forward to find out what it all has to fit in with Fry and the team smile.

One of my favorite sayings: I like details smile
Glad to hear I managed to spark an interest in the story smile
laurenSmiles1

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« Reply #13 on: 07-28-2012 00:47 »

I'm still loving the comics there Hein, you never fail to amaze me. smile

Thanks you smile (I'll be so vain to assume "amaze" is meant in a positive way big grin )


Of course it is smile

Just read the extra page to the comic. *Insert McDonalds theme here* I'm loving it
sparkybarky

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #14 on: 09-02-2012 22:16 »

Like has already been said, the detail is amazing. And I laughed at the "Bad Predator" joke, and I loved the Aliens-inspired creature projectile from that centipede's mouth. The rest of if also reminds me of something else, but it's not coming to me. Were you inspired by another famous sci-fi creature?

I chuckled at glowering Amy, Munda, and LaBarbara at the mall, in one of the last panels. And of course, seeing Fry and Leela together in bed....  love

There is definitely a retro vibe to your style, which is really strong in the Amazonians. And you know I love me some old-timey kajiggers.
Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #15 on: 09-03-2012 14:06 »
« Last Edit on: 09-03-2012 14:30 »

Like has already been said, the detail is amazing. And I laughed at the "Bad Predator" joke, and I loved the Aliens-inspired creature projectile from that centipede's mouth. The rest of if also reminds me of something else, but it's not coming to me. Were you inspired by another famous sci-fi creature?

Thanks:) The "Amazonian Devil" was basically ripped off from an "Catachan Devil" from the "Warhammer 40k" universe. The "Catachan Devil" again is a Tyranid Variant, with Tyranids beeing the equivalent of the Giger Aliens/Starship Trooper Bugs (just at home in the Warhammer 40K universe).
Some of my Tyranid miniatures, their design traits basically fathered the "Amazonian Devil":
(It's also these buggers fault when there is a delay in comic updates, as it is happening right now. That means I am more in the mood to paint tabletop miniatures instead of drawing Futurama cartoons tongue )





I chuckled at glowering Amy, Munda, and LaBarbara at the mall, in one of the last panels. And of course, seeing Fry and Leela together in bed....  


Yep, showing them as couple seemd particularily popular with the ladies for some reason wink (Though I will not guarantee they do stay together during that comic tongue)

There is definitely a retro vibe to your style, which is really strong in the Amazonians. And you know I love me some old-timey kajiggers.

Hehe..funny you mention a retro vibe. My major influences are all based on relatively modern comics smile
sparkybarky

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #16 on: 09-03-2012 18:33 »

It's the eyes of the Amazonians, I think. Yes, defintely a modern style, but some of the characters' features have that classic cartoon look.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #17 on: 09-04-2012 16:26 »

Hm...I guess I see now where you are coming from:

As kids, the Amazonians have bigger eyes than the adults. (Means: Rounder, more bulging). Female eyes in modern cartoons usually lean more towards the realistic side (as they allow a more detailed/better looking eyelash structure). Yet those round, bulging eyes with eyelashes are a common style element of old cartoons (Betty Boop maybe the most famous example.)
Tastes Like Fry

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« Reply #18 on: 10-14-2012 14:20 »

In relation to your most recent comic update: Lol, nice meme placement. ;D


... I wish I had more to say. I'd love to say 'nice detail' but you always have nice detail xD Something I'm learning  tongue
HIGHasFRY

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« Reply #19 on: 10-18-2012 05:25 »
« Last Edit on: 10-18-2012 05:27 »

I love the art style of everything you do.  It makes the futurama universe much more serious which really is not a bad thing.  I always wondered how a "serious" futurama comic would do because it allows for such a great story dynamic. (traversing worlds killing bad guys making the delivery)  As for your comic it is well done and thought out. As for the story its good thus far and I can't wait to see were it goes. Keep it up!!!
meisterPOOP

Professor
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« Reply #20 on: 10-18-2012 05:33 »

Good question...

Who killed Kenny
Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #21 on: 10-19-2012 12:43 »
« Last Edit on: 10-19-2012 23:22 »

In relation to your most recent comic update: Lol, nice meme placement. ;D
... I wish I had more to say. I'd love to say 'nice detail' but you always have nice detail xD
Thanks:) The background meme was basically that kind of random shenanigan characteristic for French U-Comix. (Similar to the "walk on eggshell" scene before).
About details: Well, page 26 will be a bit different. Rather blank, dialogs, and just the character's heads. I feel kinda bad about drawing that... frown
Something I'm learning  tongue
You're getting there:)


I love the art style of everything you do.  It makes the futurama universe much more serious ...
@HighAsFry>Thanks:) Always nice to see new commenters in my threads.
Yep, I contemplated about going for Groening style. But then I prefered to take my own style. Partly because I was curious if it would work at all.
About the comic's setting: Again, French influence, this time the Franco-Belgian Fantasy scene. Somewhere between serious fantasy and parody.

Who killed Kenny

The 50 feet Communist Jewish Space Nazi Zombies did it...
(I jokingly mentioned them in a Discworld crossover cartoon. But...the more time passes..the more I want to have them as villains in a cartoon/comic big grin tongue Design wise, they did not turn out acceptable so far, I am afraid...)

So, hoping to get three more pages done over the weekend...
FutureChild

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« Reply #22 on: 10-19-2012 14:21 »

I would love to post some of MY comics,but i dont know,could you tell me
laurenSmiles1

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« Reply #23 on: 11-13-2012 18:01 »

Love the new drawing, I had a feeling Fry and Bender were going to do something stupid. I can't wait to see where this ends up, keep up the awesome work.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #24 on: 11-15-2012 00:03 »
« Last Edit on: 11-15-2012 00:08 »

Love the new drawing, I had a feeling Fry and Bender were going to do something stupid.

Thanks smile The funny thing is: A later chapter will feature a competent Fry (as e.g. seen in Law and Oracle). Yet -without being/doing something completely stupid- that competent Fry can/will cause a far greater mess/embarassment/chaos than stupid Fry was ever able to wink
sparkybarky

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #25 on: 11-20-2012 03:08 »

I love the various cameos you inserted there, especially the creepy Simpsons military dude and "random Pac-Man." also like the reference of Bender using Fry to break a glass (what ep is that from? I remember the scene somewhat but not the ep). Your drawings are amazing as usual, Prof. Hein.
HIGHasFRY

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« Reply #26 on: 11-20-2012 04:22 »

It was from the third futurama movie benders game.  BTW i love how fry has a detached retina... is he ever going to pop that thing back in?
El-Man

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« Reply #27 on: 11-20-2012 05:08 »

I looked it up - that's no detached retina, that's called traumatic globe luxation, and Fry is damn lucky he lives in the 30th century. And being a cartoon.

But yeah, who couldn't see that Bender was going to blame it all on Fry and split? Is there a chase sequence all the way back to the PE Building now, Herr Hein? smile
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #28 on: 11-20-2012 06:10 »
« Last Edit on: 11-20-2012 15:59 »

I love the various cameos you inserted there, especially the creepy Simpsons military dude and "random Pac-Man." also like the reference of Bender using Fry to break a glass (what ep is that from? I remember the scene somewhat but not the ep). Your drawings are amazing as usual, Prof. Hein.

Thanks:) As stated before: That kind of random cameos is typical for the French U-Comic, where I picked that kind of joke up. They often went for the approach "If you gotta make it random , make it REALLY random". Sometimes in way even Monty Python would have said "Erm..this is getting a little too silly right now" wink
About Fry's usage as a battering ram: I did not really mean to reference a specific episode, just a "Bender made up a stupid plan, and managed to cause as much damage as possible that way" wink

It was from the third futurama movie benders game.  BTW i love how fry has a detached retina... is he ever going to pop that thing back in?

About the scene reference see above smile
Also, Bender using Fry as "battering ram" allowed me to speed up the scene.
Fry blacked out, woke up, and Bender told him what happened. Bender blackmailing the mall would have taken too long imhO.
About "putting the eye back in": Well...the cover depicts "Indiana Fry" with his normal face again. So, yep, sooner or later it will happen:)

But yeah, who couldn't see that Bender was going to blame it all on Fry and split? Is there a chase sequence all the way back to the PE Building now, Herr Hein? smile


I must admit I will go for some jokes probably no one will see coming. But this scene just SCREAMED for a classic Bender behaviour wink
About your question wether there is a chase sequence NOW: Nope, I will switch to another character in the next pages. Cliffhangers are fun (at least for the author), and should not be solved too early big grin
But let us just say: With the action, Fry and Bender set much graver things in motion than just a chasing, angry crowd wink
El-Man

Urban Legend
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« Reply #29 on: 12-16-2012 20:36 »

Cluck cluck cluck.... laff
laurenSmiles1

Starship Captain
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« Reply #30 on: 12-16-2012 21:19 »

Awesome drawing Hein! Keep up the awesome work. big grin
laurenSmiles1

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« Reply #31 on: 12-17-2012 01:57 »

Amazing pages as always. (I'm badly running out of words to say)

Do I spot Alice and Lucy on the last page?
Tastes Like Fry

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« Reply #32 on: 12-17-2012 02:05 »

Gah! I commented in the wrong thread! I saw Lucy and Alice and got so excited! I don't how to delete it!!! Mods? A little help
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #33 on: 12-18-2012 18:12 »
« Last Edit on: 12-18-2012 18:19 »

Cluck cluck cluck.... laff

big grin

Amazing pages as always. (I'm badly running out of words to say)

Do I spot Alice and Lucy on the last page?

Thx:) And do not worry...when praising my work, I not mind people repeating certain phrases.  And yep, those two spoilsports are them... wink

Gah! I commented in the wrong thread! I saw Lucy and Alice and got so excited! I don't how to delete it!!! Mods? A little help

Bad girl...BAD!!! Na, just kidding...wink
Mr Snrub

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« Reply #34 on: 12-28-2012 00:19 »

Stupidly awesome as usual, I feel like saving a proper review until it's finished, but it's pretty damn awesome so far.
Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #35 on: 12-28-2012 01:18 »

Stupidly awesome as usual, I feel like saving a proper review until it's finished, but it's pretty damn awesome so far.

Thanks:) But it might take a while to finish it, certainly more than 1 year, I guess.
meisterPOOP

Professor
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« Reply #36 on: 12-28-2012 04:29 »

Agreed...The servomechanisms have taken over...

I guess I have to take this in a measured plodding manner...

Really great, but not bad...Just give some intensive care.
sparkybarky

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #37 on: 01-07-2013 04:03 »

The detail is rich and intricate, as usual Prof. Hein. I especially like the Michael Jackson/Stewie gag, and the dig at Cohen and Groening. The prolonged boob holding joke is funny, too! As usual, great drawings--you are so talented.
totalnerduk

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« Reply #38 on: 02-25-2013 04:31 »

Enjoyed Tom Baker's cameo. Yay, my old avatar was in the comic! tongue
Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #39 on: 02-26-2013 17:44 »
« Last Edit on: 02-26-2013 17:47 »

The detail is rich and intricate, as usual Prof. Hein. I especially like the Michael Jackson/Stewie gag, and the dig at Cohen and Groening. The prolonged boob holding joke is funny, too! As usual, great drawings--you are so talented.

Thanks:) (I would not call myself "talented", but I'd lie if I would not admit to appreciate being called that way by others wink ).

Enjoyed Tom Baker's cameo. Yay, my old avatar was in the comic! tongue

Known as "Doctor Who" to a few, known as "Tnuk's old Avatar" to many wink
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