A long time ago, in a message board far far away.

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im just taking the other ones extra suckiness and putting it to that one, sorry for the prejudice side, but come on, you actually think its going to be good, they have to cover so much real story and plots, its going to be longer than the english movie "longest most meaningless Movie in the world" which is spanning 48 hrs.

And are you saying your the fan of the first 2

P.s. do you like the character jar-jar-binks (greatest character ever created) Pshhh!

P.P.S. Thanks for the quote using, it is that good.

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...what?

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Originally posted by comiccollector5:
and First of all the best two star wars " emire strikes back and Return of the jedi" werent even directed by Lucas, thats might be a reason they were so great.

And first of all, if you think Return of the Jedi is better than a classic like the original Star Wars, you're an idiot.

 

but come on, you actually think its going to be good, they have to cover so much real story and plots, its going to be longer than the english movie "longest most meaningless Movie in the world" which is spanning 48 hrs.

...what plot do they have to cover? Episodes one and two set everything up well enough, regarding the empire and such. Just have Anakin turn to the dark side, kill a few jedi, fight Obi-Wan and become Darth Vader. Bam. A simple, but hopefully good movie.

Anyway, I don't understand all the people who want Lucas out of the picture for the prequels. The man is old and crazy, and doesn't make movies as good as he used to, but what do you want? Even if he steps back as director, he would still have creative control of the movies. Which means everything we hate(Jar Jar, etc) would still be there. They would just be directed by some other jackass instead of Lucas himself.

And if you want him to not have creative control of the franchise, then what the hell's the point? How would Star Wars be any different from Star Trek or any other science fiction franchise with 40 writers who don't know what to do?

The prequels are fine. You nerds complain too much.

...on the other hand, if these DVD rumors are true(*fingers crossed*), then I am so pissed off. I'm a pretty big Star Wars fan, but I would refuse to buy the DVDs. Adding Hayden Christiensen to ROTJ doesn't even "add continuity", it just makes things even more ridiculous and confusing!

 

By Evan:
Well, I have to admit that "Revenge of the Sith" is a much better title than "Attack of the Clones," but just as original. Unless they're trying to build similarity to the supposed "Revenge of the Jedi" title for Episode 6. However, I don't think Lucas is that clever anymore.

Why not? Revenge of the Sith is about as clever as the rest of his titles. I'd say the Revenge/Return of the Jedi parallel was definitely what he was going for.

 

Jeff, I'd really like to see the marketing for this film. I think everyone agrees that the last two films did not set the world on fire, nor did they inspire children into geekhood like the originals did with us. Everyone who sees Episode 3 will do so "just because." It'll be silly if it's hyped up like the second coming, when we all know it'll probably stink.

Episode II sure wasn't hyped up as the second coming. Looking back on it, it was probably one of the worst marketed "event" movies I've ever seen. The trailers were awful(whoever edited them together should be fired). The only ads to really excite me were the character-centered TV spots, but they barely ever aired. I think I saw a few here and there on Cartoon Network, but nowhere else.

I think they expected the media to do all their hype for them, like with Episode I. But with the poor reception that movie got, Star Wars was just no longer on every magazine cover/news show.

Just judging by what the DVD extras are looking like, I think their marketing focus for ROTS will be on Vader. Which is stupid, if you ask me, because he's probably only going to appear for two minutes at the end of the film. So it'll maybe grab the attention of some casual old-school fans, but then they'll walk out of the movie theater being pissed off.

I should be a movie marketing guy. Despite all of the nerdy complaints you people have, the new Star Wars movies have some cool stuff to offer. I think I could pump people up for the movies without overselling it.

 

It's sad. There's so much Episode 3 has to offer - Anakin in the Vader suit, destruction of all the Jedi, birth of the Empire - but we all pretty much know Lucas will disappoint us. At least when it's been released, we can kiss our remaining SW fandom good bye.

Obviously I liked episodes one and two more than you, but from the beginning I've believed episode III to be the key. If it sucks, it could easily ruin my enjoyment of the entire prequel trilogy. If it's awesome, it could make people forget about Jar Jar and everything else. All I can do is hope for the best.

I'm still doing my best to stay spoiler free. I've heard some positive things, though. The on-set buzz seems good enough. Lots of "we really want to go out on a good note" type of stuff. But a lot of stuff worries me. General Grievous is ok-looking, but he really doesn't excite me like most of the other big Star Wars villains. Depending on how the special effects are, he could end up just being ridiculous.

And the story should be pretty serious, as far as Star Wars goes. I really don't see how the movie will work if Lucas keeps goofing off with the CGI(like with Jar Jar and the Yoda fight).

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Just quick:
 

Originally posted by comiccollector5:im just taking the other ones extra suckiness and putting it to that one, sorry for the prejudice side, 

I know where you were coming from, but you can't just deem a movie that nobody has seen as crap, regardless of what other movies are related to it (by that vein, I could say that Ep 1 was great because all the Star Wars movies before it were.) You can say that it is LIKELY to be bad or that it MAY be bad, but not that it IS bad. Judge it on it's own merits and label speculation as such.

 

but come on, you actually think its going to be good,

Personally, I don't think it will be great, but I think it will be the best of the prequels, and a fairly average movie. I'm not sure what I am basing it on, mostly just my feel for the way the series has progressed.

 

they have to cover so much real story and plots, its going to be longer than the english movie "longest most meaningless Movie in the world" which is spanning 48 hrs.

I think that there is going to be a lot less story to cover than some think, it isn't necessarily going to cover every little detail.

 

And are you saying your the fan of the first 2

I was severly disappointed by Ep1(based on expectation from original trilogy) and pleasantly surprised by Ep2(based on expectations from Ep1).  Overall, they are hovering on the line between "wish they had never been made" and "alright, I guess". The outcome of the final installment will decide which way they will fall.

 

P.s. do you like the character jar-jar-binks (greatest character ever created) Pshhh!

I dispise episode 1 Jar-Jar, and tolerate episode 2 Jar-Jar (mostly because he is a rarity, and keeps the annoyance to a minimum).

 

P.P.S. Thanks for the quote using, it is that good.

Hey, quotes are fun for everybody!

My biggest complaints about the prequels are the overuse of intrusive CGI, and the fact that Anikin was NEVER made to be somebody likeable. He was either an annoying little kid or a real ass of a young adult.  If he is so unlikable throughout all the movies, why should we care for him at the end of ROTJ? He's just an annoying jerk that you want to see dead by that point.  It really weakened the Vader character. So sad.

Edit: okay, so that wasn't so quick

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The prequels are okay when it's just Jedi kicking somebodies ass. Quite good even (Obi-Wan vs Maul duel was groovy). Oh, and I, personally, think everything with Palps in the Prequels is really cool.

It's just that whenever a character does something that isn't fighting (or whenever a charcter isn't Palpatine), you just know that nothing good's going to happen.

Oh, and children should never be main characters. That road leads to horror beyond imaginings.

I would say that these things were designed to be cheesy, but there's several things in the prequels I can't defend (Jar-Jar, Threepio's hideous jokes, several potentially great action scenes cut short unecessarily).

Over all, I can't decide whether I hate or like Eps 1 + 2. They have they're moments, it's just a pity that aproximetly half those moments are cring inducing.

And mindlessly bagging the prequels is so mainstream. Fight the power, man! Enjoy a silly movie! 

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Originally posted by SlackJawedMoron:
And mindlessly bagging the prequels is so mainstream.

What about just not watching them?

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Nah, that's cool. As long as you do it with pizazz.

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Originally posted by SlackJawedMoron:
Oh, and children should never be main characters. That road leads to horror beyond imaginings.

Amen to that. I had a friend who rented out the Episode I game and he didn't get very far in the time he had it as, according to him the urge to chop up the annoying little Annie was just too great.

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At least little Annie was slightly better than Anakin in Ep.2. The whole "Annie-and-Padme" thing made me feel ill. Not only badly written, but isn't that some kind of pedophilia on her part?

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Re: Original Trilogy DVDs

After reading the list of changes at AICN, I'm very on the fence.  Most of the changes seem cosmetic, whether scenery or musical.  There are three changes I read that I reacted to.  If they put Han shooting first back in, that would be very, very good.  If they put naboo starfighters into the Trench Run and Padme into RotJ's final lineup, that would be very, very bad.  Putting Hayden Christensen in doesn't bother me nearly as much as natalie portman.

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hey ranadok and fishy joe, you have a lot of time on your hands to pick out all my quotes. thanx. but are you saying, when you see a trailer of a chick flick, you never say, Shit not another one. how about you go see "a cinderalla story" then. What your saying is that you have never, once in your life time, ever down-plated a movie just of the looks and the sounds of it, and if you say less, you are a ignorant. And come on,
-come on we all know in the back of are mind and heart that george lucas is a crappy director, but im not saying hes not a good writer. i bet you these "prequals" could be good with better acting,character developments, and not the whole
star wars world taken out of context
-sorry about the whole 48 hrs thing, just trying to be funny, maybe a mere 4hrs. i was justing saying that because i havent noticed they did the clone wars on CN (what were they thinking) but i still stick to my agreement
- Yes Jar-Jar is summed up on the 2 one, but still theres still to much cgi, and yoda doesnt even look like original yoda, and they only took out about 50 years from his life, not a whole 300 (from his what 800 year old life span).

Thanks for the argument, and keep them coming

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Originally posted by comiccollector5:
george lucas is a crappy director

Director - Filmography

Star Wars (1977)
American Graffiti (1973)
THX 1138 (1971)

 

im not saying hes not a good writer.

Writer - Filmography

Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones (2002) "I don't like sand ..."  WORST. LINE. EVER.
Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999) Midichlorians raped my childhood
Willow (1988)
Captain Eo (1986)
"Droids" (1985) TV Series
"Ewoks" (1985) TV Series
Ewoks: The Battle for Endor (1985) (TV)
Ewok Adventure, The (1984) (TV)
Star Wars Holiday Special, The (1978) (TV)

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Originally posted by FishyJoe:
The prequels are fine. You nerds complain too much.

Second.

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Originally posted by Ranadok:


My biggest complaints about the prequels are the overuse of intrusive CGI, and the fact that Anikin was NEVER made to be somebody likeable. He was either an annoying little kid or a real ass of a young adult.  If he is so unlikable throughout all the movies, why should we care for him at the end of ROTJ? He's just an annoying jerk that you want to see dead by that point.  It really weakened the Vader character. So sad.

I hear that.

I think the fight scenes made Episode 2 into a decent movie (Obi vs. Jango, Light Saber Duel, factory scene etc.). Not as good as any of the OT movies, mostly because of the godawful dialouge, but still good enough to warrent buying the DVD. Episode 1 on the other hand... well let's just say that the only reason I bought that on DVD was so I'd have the entire saga (once they are all on DVD of course).

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Whatever. I'm looking forward to Episode 3. And i cant wait to see Anakin become Darth Vader and impale Jar Jar Binks with his lightsaber. Evil triumphs and no more Star Wars movies. Everyone wins.

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"Revenge of the Sith", eh? Wel, not as bad as I had feared, but "Fall Of The Republic" would've been soooo much better.

Although one could argue the Galactic Republic fell when Jar Jar helped Palpatine complete his coup d'etat. Still, "Fall Of The Republic"...

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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
Whatever. I'm looking forward to Episode 3. And i cant wait to see Anakin become Darth Vader and impale Jar Jar Binks with his lightsaber. Evil triumphs and no more Star Wars movies. Everyone wins.

I'd pay double just to see that.

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Originally posted by comiccollector5:
hey ranadok and fishy joe, you have a lot of time on your hands to pick out all my quotes. thanx.

Actually, I just got a bit carried away that one time... I really should not have spent that long on that... oh, well. You're welcome.

 

but are you saying, when you see a trailer of a chick flick, you never say, Shit not another one. how about you go see "a cinderalla story" then. What your saying is that you have never, once in your life time, ever down-plated a movie just of the looks and the sounds of it, and if you say less, you are a ignorant.

My problem wasn't with you saing that you expected ep3 to be bad or that you didn't want to see it, but that you declared as fact that ROTS was a horrible movie without ever seeing it or hearing from anyone that has.  I have no problem with you not looking forward to this film or saying that you don't expect much from it, but saying that it is bad with so little to base it on is really foolish.  Many, many times I have thought that a certain movie didn't look to be any good, based on any number of things(trailers, genres, plot descriptions, etc). Sometimes I'm right, but I'm sometimes wrong, too. I don't treat my initial impressions of a film as fact, if I did, I would have missed out on a lot of great films.  You seem to have written off episode 3 before it had a chance to prove itself to be good OR bad. How much exactly do you know about this movie at the moment?

 

- Yes Jar-Jar is summed up on the 2 one, but still theres still to much cgi, and yoda doesnt even look like original yoda, and they only took out about 50 years from his life, not a whole 300 (from his what 800 year old life span).

Actually, I didn't mind the CGI Yoda, they actually seemed to do a good job on that for once(it surprised me, really...). I'm not sure what your point is about his age...

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yah and thanx for the allowment to get to you, most people just call me out of line just because im 14. i have just heard about the movie and in my opinion, its sounds bad, (me actually knowing the story).

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dont know if somebody else said it already, but heres some changes in the old trilogy: http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/

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*kills self*

Although in the grand scheme of things, having Naboo celebrating makes a lot more sense than Cloud City.

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I miss the old puppet strings.

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OK, I haven't posted since the 2nd page and this might have been posted before, but I have some really cool news:
Movie Tome, the movie version of the TV Tome site, has the entire Episode 3 described under summeery. Just go to Movie Tome and type in Star Wars and press search. Then click the link "Star Wars Episode III". Then just scroll down and start to read, unless you want to wait tell next May.

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Originally posted by FishyJoe:
*kills self*

Although in the grand scheme of things, having Naboo celebrating makes a lot more sense than Cloud City.

Yes, but Naboo sucks.  Any changes that involve removing footage of Billy Dee Williams can never be good.

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It says they're also doing a new DVD of Episode I, replacing the Yoda puppet with computer animation.  Of course, the current Episode I DVD already has many differences from the theatrical version.  But I thought the Yoda puppet did look pretty bad in that movie.  It was far less believable than the ones used in the earlier movies, and it just looked too, well, puppet-like.  He was also really scraggly; it's odd that he looked better when he was living in a swamp.

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Originally posted by evan:
 Yes, but Naboo sucks.  Any changes that involve removing footage of Billy Dee Williams can never be good.

Correction! Gungans suck. And love scenes set on Naboo suck.

The actual planet is cool looking.

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Originally posted by Woodbot 2.0:
OK, I haven't posted since the 2nd page and this might have been posted before, but I have some really cool news:
Movie Tome, the movie version of the TV Tome site, has the entire Episode 3 described under summeery. Just go to Movie Tome and type in Star Wars and press search. Then click the link "Star Wars Episode III". Then just scroll down and start to read, unless you want to wait tell next May.

I was overcome with curiousidy and I read it. And to my suprise, it sounds pretty cool. I think if they do this movie right, it could redeem the honor lost on the first two shitty sequels.

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I shall state that various ideas in all the prequel films are cool. The entire premise is cool. But, in, execution, they fell flat on there arse. They may have staggered up once or twice, but they were mostly one big arse-warming fest.

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At least it can't get any worse, right? Jar-Jar should be dead now. Dead and gone. Right!?

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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
At least it can't get any worse, right? Jar-Jar should be dead now. Dead and gone. Right!?

I am sorry my friend, but Jar Jar lives.
It would be funny if Jar Jar was killed by Anikan during the scenes where he goes mad and turns to Darth Vader.

Jar Jar: Mesa think master Anikan should stop killing Jedi. Jedi are yousa's friend.
Anikan: You're right Jar Jar.
Jar Jar: Really?
Anikan: No.
(Anikan cuts off Jar Jar's head in a cool CGI gore blast)
Audience, in the theater: YYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAA!

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Originally posted by Woodbot 2.0:
 

Originally posted by Nurdbot:
At least it can't get any worse, right? Jar-Jar should be dead now. Dead and gone. Right!?

I am sorry my friend, but Jar Jar lives.
It would be funny if Jar Jar was killed by Anikan during the scenes where he goes mad and turns to Darth Vader.

Jar Jar: Mesa think master Anikan should stop killing Jedi. Jedi are yousa's friend.
Anikan: You're right Jar Jar.
Jar Jar: Really?
Anikan: No.
(Anikan cuts off Jar Jar's head in a cool CGI gore blast)
Audience, in the theater: YYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAA!

that scene alone would guarantee the movie Best picture at the academy awards.

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I'd vote for it.

Does anyone think there should be more accents in Star Wars? A German accented Stormtrooper would make my day.

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Terran accents? No, not really. Germany isn't even in the same galaxy, so a German accent would be out of place. But some alien accents would be fine.

 

Originally posted by Woodbot 2.0:
I am sorry my friend, but Jar Jar lives.
It would be funny if Jar Jar was killed by Anikan during the scenes where he goes mad and turns to Darth Vader.

I know it's a minor thing and the overall plot is pretty much known by everybody, but please use spoilers the next time.

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Teral: But I always imagine everyone in Star Wars with American accents. Which kinda sucks.

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Imperial officers usually have British accents.

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So did Obi-Wan in the original trilogy.

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Star Wars the old trilogy will be out this fall on DVD for the first time.

George Lucas has titled his last Star Wars movie: "Star War Episode III: Revenge of the Sith." Sort of an opposite to Return of the Jedi.

Only one question how come Count Dooku isn't listed as one of the characters in the movie? He was still alive by the end of Attack of the Clones. Is he dead by Episode III? If so how does he die? Chewbacca the Wookie will be apart of Episode III.

This is odd, I typed "Star Wars" on the Search Engine but this thread never came up.  Also, "A long time ago, in a message board far far away" as the title of a Star Wars topic sound cool, but hard to notice.  Just like that Movie Review Thread that starts with "Lord of the Rings", but very clever.

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Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:
Star Wars the old trilogy will be out this fall on DVD for the first time.

Really?!! I can't wait now!!

 

Only one question how come Count Dooku isn't listed as one of the characters in the movie? He was still alive by the end of Attack of the Clones. Is he dead by Episode III? If so how does he die?

Oh yeah, he dies. He gets stabbed by his servant in front of a lot of dwarfs.
 

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Why isn't Dooku credited in episode III? He was alive in Episode II, so did he die inbetween?
 

Well, I read the thing on Movie Tome and

Show spoiler

Dooku does die, but he is still in the movie. He is killed by Anikan or Obi-One, so Christopher Lee sould still be credited in his short apperance

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Christopher Lee was good as Dooku.  I was hoping for a huge battle with him and Obie as Anikan turns into Darth Vader.