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bender+fry

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« Reply #600 on: 03-22-2004 04:36 »

 
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
 In the Scully era, the character distortion made most episodes unbearable.

no truer words were ever spoken
leelaholic

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« Reply #601 on: 03-22-2004 10:35 »

 
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
In the Scully era, the character distortion made most episodes unbearable.
Especially Homer. Remember "Tennis the Menace"?

*shudder*
User_names_suck
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« Reply #602 on: 03-22-2004 14:02 »

 
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Originally posted by Kryten:
 He framed his wife for drunk driving. If that's not Homer' biggest jerkass moment, it's in the top three.

I haven't seen the episode but I think you misunderstand the term Jerkass Homer
its when Homer say and does horribly insenstive things for absloutley no reason.
here it just seem he's being cowardly.


On the subject of the Maxim Marge cover
the general feeling at The NHC is that Matt's got himself into some more gambling debts.
but its still just sleazy promo stuff its nothing to do with the actual show quality.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #603 on: 03-22-2004 15:21 »

It's very out of character as well, as well as a totally different subject.
leelaholic

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« Reply #604 on: 03-22-2004 16:09 »
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My Grades So Far...

-Treehouse of Horror XIV B-
-My Mother the Carjacker A+
-The President Wore Pearls A
-The Regina Monologues B+
-The Fat and the Furriest C
-Today, I Am a Clown B
-'Tis the 15th Season A+
-Marge vs. Singles, Seniors, Childless couples and Teens and Gays D-
-I, D'oh-bot A
-Diatribe of a Mad Housewife B+
-Margical History Tour D
-Milhouse Doesn't Live here Anymore B
-Smart and Smarter B+
-The Ziff That Came To Dinner D+
-Co-Dependents Day B-
Woodbot 2.0

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« Reply #605 on: 03-22-2004 16:24 »

The cover is just a gag,ok?
Besides,if they have a choice between Paris Hilton and Marge Simpson,you know that 80% of peopel will pick Hilton.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #606 on: 03-22-2004 16:38 »

Do you read the other pages? we've confirmed this, and it's not a gag.
evan

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« Reply #607 on: 03-22-2004 17:30 »

 
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Originally posted by Woodbot 2.0:
The cover is just a gag,ok?
Besides,if they have a choice between Paris Hilton and Marge Simpson,you know that 80% of peopel will pick Hilton.

Hmm...I guess then that the dozen so copies in the bookstore were "gags" as well.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #608 on: 03-22-2004 18:53 »

I think he means that the cover and story themselves are just meant to be funny (something people in the store will see and laugh at, thus prompting them to open out of curiousity), as opposed to it actually being meant to be enticing or whatever.  Again, this is not to say that I approve of the cover.
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #609 on: 03-22-2004 19:06 »

It's the April issue... as in April Fool's.  It also claims to have an interview with Osama bin Laden, which I assume is some kind of joke.

It's this sort of thing that makes me kind of glad that Futurama wasn't more popular....
PCC Fred

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« Reply #610 on: 03-22-2004 19:09 »

Yeah.  Who'd want to see a scantily-clad Leela on the cover of Maxim?  roll eyes

Wait a minute...  hmpf

Please excuse me while I enjoy that fantasy...  love
User_names_suck
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« Reply #611 on: 03-22-2004 19:12 »

hmm but I'd think you'd be willing to endure having say Leela on the cover if it meant a few more season of it.
All I can say is it seems to be Groening approved,
who knows maybe he would have been willing to have that happen to futurama.
newhook_1

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« Reply #612 on: 03-22-2004 19:13 »
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I didn't like "Co-Dependents Day" very much for most of the reasons others listed. 2/5 in comparison to the rest of the Jean era, 1/5 for the course of the series. I have to admit though, one joke had me laughing out loud.
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*Homer walks into rehab lobby, empty handed*

Homer (phoney voice): Hello, I'm here to deliver a package for Marge Simpson.

Man at desk: Ok, where's the package?

Homer: Damnit!
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As much as I know many will hate to admit it, that one line is pure classic era quality Homer (Before you say it's not, think of the post office gag in "Blood Feud" ).

PCC Fred

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« Reply #613 on: 03-22-2004 19:14 »

More seasons of Futurama AND Leela on the cover of Maxim?  *explodes a la Malfunctioning Eddie*
Gorky

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« Reply #614 on: 03-22-2004 20:58 »

I typed a long, monotonous, boring, etc., review of this episode already on NCH, so all I'll say is, I think it was a decent episode, a B/B-.
leelaholic

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« Reply #615 on: 03-22-2004 22:22 »
« Last Edit on: 03-22-2004 22:22 »

     
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
Yeah.  Who'd want to see a scantily-clad Leela on the cover of Maxim?       roll eyes

Wait a minute...       hmpf

Please excuse me while I enjoy that fantasy...       love
If you enjoyed that fantasy, you may also enjoy this picture by The Voices

Best fan art ever.   love     love     love
Nurdbot

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« Reply #616 on: 03-23-2004 01:52 »

Zed's drolled over that art in Voices thread, so has 99.9% of the males of PEEL.
Kryten

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« Reply #617 on: 03-23-2004 10:07 »

 
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Originally posted by newhook_1:
I didn't like "Co-Dependents Day" very much for most of the reasons others listed. 2/5 in comparison to the rest of the Jean era, 1/5 for the course of the series. I have to admit though, one joke had me laughing out loud.

He should've said "D'oh".
PCC Fred

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« Reply #618 on: 03-23-2004 11:13 »

 
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Originally posted by leelaholic:If you enjoyed that fantasy, you may also enjoy this picture by The Voices

Best fan art ever.    love      love      love

Very sexxay, but if you think it's the best ever, you obviously weren't around for "nudecrap" and "roughnight", nor Doug's polednacing Leela.
Woodbot 2.0

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« Reply #619 on: 03-23-2004 12:39 »

Well,The Wondering Juvie aires next Sunday.
Sara Micele Gellar will do the voice of a girl coviect with the hots for Bart.
Looks good.
leelaholic

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« Reply #620 on: 03-23-2004 13:43 »

Woodbot, no. There isn't a romantic attraction between them. They're just teaming up to prove their innocence (which Bart is, but she may not be).
User_names_suck
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« Reply #621 on: 03-23-2004 14:24 »

Come to think of it though it would be an intresting angle for the girl to be attracted to Bart, but Bart being completley Oblivious to it.
Vamsi

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« Reply #622 on: 03-23-2004 14:43 »

 
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Originally posted by User_names_suck:
Come to think of it though it would be an intresting angle for the girl to be attracted to Bart, but Bart being completley Oblivious to it.

Actually, they already did this in The Bart Wants What it Wants. That episode wasn't all that great, so I don't have high hopes for this one. Plus, it has Judge Harm in it, probably the most unbearable character in the Simpsons Universe.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #623 on: 03-23-2004 14:56 »

Just because they already did it, that's never stopped them doing it again...
Woodbot 2.0

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« Reply #624 on: 03-23-2004 15:17 »
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I read and saw that there are two other epiosde,ether for season 1 or 16.Both have no titles:
A Citezen Kane omagie and one where Patty falls for a FEMALEgolfer.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #625 on: 03-23-2004 15:30 »

Who guessed lesbians a while back? I want to give them a prize.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #626 on: 03-23-2004 15:32 »
« Last Edit on: 03-23-2004 15:32 »

Again, we don't KNOW if there's a romantic element to "The Wandering Juvie".  There could be, and maybe there isn't.  We'll just have to see.

The Citizen Kane Homage comment is speculation based on the plot for the episode itself, which is basically that Burns becomes a media mogul and owns every publication in Springfield....except Lisa's.  Sounds interesting and hopefully there will infact be more Citizen Kane craziness for Burns.

People are going to go insane over the Patty plot but I think it sounds really interesting.  I watched "Principal Charming" fairly recently and decided the concept is feasable...as Marge says in that episode, Selma simply had celebacy thrust upon her, but Patty  chose it.  Its feasable even if it hasn't come up before in the show, aside from a couple quick gags in season thirteen.  Plus, with gay marriage becoming a big issue now, its only appropriate for The Simpsons to comment on it (I have similar feelings about the Burns plot, which I'm looking forward to even more).  For the record, when they unveiled the Patty plot they also mentioned a "Crying Game like twist", so look out for that.
Shadowstar

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« Reply #627 on: 03-23-2004 15:38 »
« Last Edit on: 03-23-2004 15:38 »

Sorry I'm late, long story.
"Co-Dependant's Day"
Oh boy, this wasn't too good. It took the show THIS long to rip on Star Wars? I mean, come on! But I did like CBG's line "Worst Cosmic Wars ever! I will only see it three more times... today." And I liked Homer on hold, and a few choice lines here and there were mildly amusing. But the plot was so dumb and Marge was so out of character and what Homer did was so outright diabolical, and in 3 minutes, the conflict is resolved by Marge getting drunk and finding that she loves her husband. What the hell. But still, it was OK, but nothing great in this one at all.
Grade: 2/5

OK, here are my current grades of 'da season, all out of 5, of course:

Treehouse of Horror XIV: 2/5
My Mother the Carjacker: 4/5
The President Wore Pearls: 3/5
The Regina Monologues: 2/5
The Fat and the Furriest: 1.5/5
Today, I Am a Clown: 3.5/5
'Tis the Fifeenth Season: 3/5
Marge vs. Singles, Seniors, Childless Couples and Teens and Gays: 0.5/5
I, D'oh-bot: 4/5
Diatribe of a Mad Housewife: 3.5/5
Margical History Tour: 1/5
Milhouse Doesn't Live here Anymore: 2/5
Smart and Smarter: 4.5/5
The Ziff That Came To Dinner: 3/5
Co-Dependents Day: 2/5

Also, I love it, leelaholic, that you give episodes good reviews, and then after seeing everyone else give it bad ones, you slowly mold your grade down to their level. ("Marge vs. etc., Margical History Tour", etc...)
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #628 on: 03-23-2004 16:48 »

 
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Originally posted by Shadowstar:
It took the show THIS long to rip on Star Wars?
"I am Furious Yellow" was all about the foolhardy dot-com boom and bust, but it aired in 2002, long after that was all over.  But this seems worse, if it was about 1999's Star Wars.
User_names_suck
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« Reply #629 on: 03-23-2004 16:54 »
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Originally posted by Vamsi:
 Actually, they already did this in The Bart Wants What it Wants. That episode wasn't all that great, so I don't have high hopes for this one. Plus, it has Judge Harm in it, probably the most unbearable character in the Simpsons Universe.

hmm I guess I forgot about the details of that episode, I just rember the main plot was Bart Pursuing her.
I was just thinking it would work as kind of a subtext as they attempt to make there way out, kind of Like the Smither liking burns subtext although thats probably actuall text not subtext.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #630 on: 03-23-2004 17:35 »

 
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Originally posted by Action Jacktion:
 
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Originally posted by Shadowstar:
It took the show THIS long to rip on Star Wars?
"I am Furious Yellow" was all about the foolhardy dot-com boom and bust, but it aired in 2002, long after that was all over.  But this seems worse, if it was about 1999's Star Wars.

There's been more than that...

Gorky

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« Reply #631 on: 03-23-2004 17:35 »

 
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Originally posted by Shadowstar:
It took the show THIS long to rip on Star Wars?

I must admit that this is one of the things about this episode that really annoyed me. It seems as if the crew disregarded Star Wars parodies for such a long time, and then they come out with one that wasn't funny at all, in my opinion.

DotheBartman

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« Reply #632 on: 03-23-2004 22:39 »

I think it was generally amusing and had some good moments (the "roll call" bit perfectly describes how dry Phantom Menace felt), but at the same time felt too blatant and too much like a "Mad" parody.  It would've been better if they made up something that wasn't so directly similar to Star Wars, but made the analogies about the fans being disapointed and all that.  None of the direct, super-obvious stuff like the opening scroll, Lucas parody, etc.
evan

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« Reply #633 on: 03-23-2004 22:58 »

So "The Simpsons" makes fun of George Lucas for wanted to re-make Star Wars?  I'm sorry, but didn't South Park do that two years ago? Is the Simpsons still considered 'cutting-edge?'
DotheBartman

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« Reply #634 on: 03-23-2004 23:18 »

While it did seem somewhat similar to the "South Park" episode they didn't touch the "remaking" stuff at all (which actually is what I would have prefered them to touch on, but whatever).  Just the prequels, specifically The Phantom Menace.

It did seem rather late for them to do it of course, and seems like pretty bad judgement.  Again it would have worked better if they hadn't made it so Star Wars specific, but just dropped an allusion or two that the knowing Star Wars fan would catch.
Woodbot 2.0

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« Reply #635 on: 03-24-2004 01:14 »

Well,think about it,this episode was probly writen in 2002,animation/voice over work was done in 2003 and it aired in 2004.
So,It may have been written before Star Wars Episode 2 came out in the movies.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #636 on: 03-24-2004 02:01 »

No, they don't work quite THAT far in advance.  Over two summers ago would be along time ago to be writing this.

Plus, even still, they would have to realize that it would not air for a while, and thus would appear dated.  So it would still be bad judgement.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #637 on: 03-24-2004 04:50 »

According to the various documentaries I've seen on the subject, an episode of the Simpsons takes about six months to make.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #638 on: 03-24-2004 11:58 »

6-9, yes.   And in some cases they may be ready for a while but take a little longer to air, like with holdovers and such.  Still, over two years would be too much.
User_names_suck
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« Reply #639 on: 03-24-2004 13:52 »
« Last Edit on: 03-24-2004 13:52 »

Maybe they though it would air later in time for episode 3, anyway why does everone care so much over a dated refrence at least its not an up to date refrence to some flash in the pan film/program that wont make any sense in 5 years.

It always confued me about the 6-9 months thing when I was younger I didn't realise they meant production-airdate and of course that there basically working on all of them at the same time.


oh and by the way for those that dont know
FABF12 - My Big Fat Geek Wedding - Written by Kevin Curran - Confirmed Airdate: April 4, 2004
When Principal Skinner gets cold feet before pending nuptials, his fiancÚ, Edna Krabappel, calls off the wedding. Determined to win her back, Skinner enlists Homer's help. Meanwhile, Marge is convinced Edna can do better. Edna rebounds into the arms of Comic Book Guy, who whisks her off to a comic book convention, where they run into  Matt Groening (guest-starring as himself) signing autographs. Skinner shows up at the convention in a last, desperate attempt to fight Comic Book Guy for Edna's heart

well anyway heres the queue for everyone to complain about what a shoddy guest apperance this is and to complain about how the simpsons relies on guest stars to boost its ratings.    wink    roll eyes
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