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« Reply #240 on: 05-17-2002 02:25 »

well it's been 24 hours since i saw it so i've calmed down now.
but if i'd posted right after i saw it it would have looked something like this:

"HOLY SHIT OH MY GOD
BEST FUCKING THING EVER MADE!!1!
yoda...clones...jango...dark side...3PO...Windu...holy shit...man...YODA KICKS ASS WITH MAD JEDI SKILLZ!!"

i'll be seeing it again tomorrow  big grin, i loved it even more than Empire (yes).
Yoda vs. Dooku was the best thing i ever saw.

****1/2
the only thing which slowed it down were a couple of the Anikan/Padme scenes, but they weren't all bad.
great stuff. if you haven't seen it, you're crazy, GO SEE IT NOW.
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« Reply #241 on: 05-17-2002 03:36 »

I wouldn't say it's the best thing ever made. I'm not going to rank it until i see it a couple more times, but at the moment it's sitting at #2 behind 'Empire'. It may slip, depending on how much the hype is affecting me.

I agree with MuscaDomestica, with Lucas going for such a grand scale in this new trilogy, ROTJ seems like an even greater anti-climax now.
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« Reply #242 on: 05-17-2002 03:47 »

 
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I wouldn't say it's the best thing ever made.
i didn't really mean that, it's just i think i said it right after i saw the movie because the last 10 minutes or so were so goddamn awesome.

i still think it's the best Star Wars though, but if i see Empire again i may change my mind.
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« Reply #243 on: 05-17-2002 07:42 »

And it's all Jar-Jar's fault!  Ahahahaha!  Perfect!

I loved it!  It was much better than 'Cats'!  I'm going to see it again and again!
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« Reply #244 on: 05-17-2002 11:36 »

I saw it yesterday! It was good, but I didn't like Anakin that much.. And that Dooku man, was kinda Sarumann (the same actor too), he was a jedi and then went over to the dark side... it's a little LOTR, I think  roll eyes
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« Reply #245 on: 05-17-2002 12:21 »

It seems the more I think of it the worse Jedi becomes, mainly because of the much smaller scope and the deaths. Boba who was given a decent history still was killed in a moment of comic relief. The Emperorís death is almost as bad, not who did it or why it was done, but how, I always thought it looked very cheesy and now seeing Palpatine in all of his glory it makes it even worse. I am hoping they make another special edition to give the ending of RotJ more scope and to improve on the mistakes of the first one (improve Jabba, make Han shoot first ect.)
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« Reply #246 on: 05-17-2002 13:51 »

I don't like sand. It's coarse and irratating and gets everywhere... not like you. you're soft and smooth.

 laff My favorite* part was when she kissed him during the gladiator battle

*-as in "worst part ever"
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« Reply #247 on: 05-17-2002 14:12 »

What are you talking about VF?
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« Reply #248 on: 05-17-2002 14:36 »

Ok I've calmed down a little. Seeing it for the second time, the romantical scenes sucked a lot more...but oh well, whatcha gonna do. At least they kept it short.

Special effects were kinda bad too. Mainly the speeder-riding scenes and the animal-riding scenes(the Reek was alright though).

Everything else was rockin' though. My favorite scene(I'm not going to do spoiler text, because if you haven't seen the movie and are worried about being spoiled, what the hell are you doing reading a Star Wars thread?) was Anakin bringing home his mother's dead body. Carrying it inside, and glaring at everyone...what a great image. One of the best Star Wars moments yet.

I also like Boba picking up his dad's head(maybe I have a dead parent fetish). I wanted him to shake the head out, and have it plop out like a can of dog food. Boba was pretty cool, I have to say. The "get him dad!" type lines seemed lame when I first read them, but seeing the kid get so excited about his dad brutally murdering jedi was pretty funny.

I can't wait for the next movie. It's gonna rock so much.
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« Reply #249 on: 05-17-2002 20:39 »

 
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What are you talking about VF?
wow i've confused the original confusing peeler! I don't know if I should be happy or sad.

MPoop, I was paraphrasing anakin from star wars II. Then I was talking about Padme and Ani and the finale fight scene




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« Reply #250 on: 05-17-2002 20:49 »
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I don't like sand. It's coarse and irratating and gets everywhere... not like you. you're soft and smooth.
worst line ever

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« Reply #251 on: 05-18-2002 01:23 »

No, I still think "This party's over" follwed immediately by "I don't think so," courtesy of Sammy L. Jackson, were the worst lines of the movie.
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« Reply #252 on: 05-18-2002 02:14 »

It's not a line, but this scene was pretty pathetic:

Padme: "arggggggg..." *she's obviously very hurt*
Clone Trooper: "are you ok my lady?"
Padme: "yes. im fine" *gets up*
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« Reply #253 on: 05-18-2002 02:28 »

hayden...

SO HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  flirt  flirt  flirt

mmm baby  wink are you with me girls?  big grin
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« Reply #254 on: 05-18-2002 08:34 »

ben, I thought that scene was funny. I like how she couldnt get up till the trooper walked over to her then she sorta jumped up.
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« Reply #255 on: 05-18-2002 08:35 »

Yeah, it was kinda humorously pathetic...
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« Reply #256 on: 05-18-2002 11:06 »

exactly
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« Reply #257 on: 05-18-2002 11:50 »

Haha yeah. Stupid Natalie Portman.

Also the clone trooper there seemed awfully CGIish. That scene was probably rushed in at the last second, to spell it out for the audience that Padme was ok.

Is it just me, or is that goofy robot thing(shown in the end, with the other members of the Seperatists) the sexiest thing ever?
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« Reply #258 on: 05-18-2002 13:36 »

I've seen Natalie Portman's acting ability compared to that of balsa wood.  In some scenes, I'm inclined to agree.  For instance:

Anakin: I killed them all.  Not just the men, but also the women and children.
Padme: *Blank stare, no reaction at all*
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« Reply #259 on: 05-18-2002 17:05 »

Padme: Also I love you all of a sudden for no reason
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« Reply #260 on: 05-18-2002 19:26 »

There was a reason...she spent her whole life being a sexy career woman, with no guy friends. Then she spends a few weeks with a hot teenager, sees him go through the most devastating event in his life, and then they are about to die together, so she figures "eh, what the hell, I might as well fall in love".

Come on, she's a girl--girls are stupid like that.
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« Reply #261 on: 05-19-2002 02:49 »
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"WAR ON TERROR NOT OVER YET" EMPEROR DECLARES-
Coruscant

Presiding over a memorial service commemorating the victims of the attack on the Death Star, the Emperor declared that while recent victories over the Rebel Alliance were "encouraging, the War on Terror is not over yet." "We will continue to fight these terrorists, and the rogue governments who harbor them, until the universe is safe, once and for all, and the security of the Neo-New Cosmik Order ensured."

It was one year ago today that the Death Star, perhaps the greatest symbol of the Empire's might, was destroyed in an attack by fanatic Rebels, who used small, single-person crafts to infiltrate seemingly impenetrable defenses. Thousands of mourners were on hand to remember and pay tribute to the victims and their families. "We lost our innocence that day," reflected one mourner. "I guess we thought we were immune from the kind of violence that happens in other galaxies. We were wrong." "I lost hundreds of buddies that day," said one teary-eyed Stormtrooper. "Guys whose only crime was trying make the Universe a safer place." Although the day was colored by sadness, the mourners found some relief in the news of a decisive victory over the Rebels. In an attack led by Darth Vader, Empire forces were able to rout hundreds of Rebels from a network of caves underneath the surface of the planet Hoth. "We're not sure we got them all," says a Vader spokesman. "There are a lot of places to hide in those caves. But we've delivered a powerful blow to the terrorist's infrastructure, that's for sure. Today, the Empire has struck back." Initial reports are unclear as to the fate of Luke Skywalker, a hero among the Rebels, who is rumored to have delivered the fatal blow to the Death Star. Skywalker, a former desert- dweller from the planet Tatooine, became a part of the Rebellion after family members were killed. Skywalker was trained by a militant wing of the Rebels, known as "Jedi Knights." Fanatical in their religious beliefs, the Jedi Knights claim to derive their power from the mystical "Force." It's believed that Skywalker was specifically trained by infamous terrorist O bin Wankanobi. Wankanobi, occasionally called "Ben" and easily recognized by his bearded visage and long, flowing robes, achieved near-martyr status among the Rebels after his death last year during a spy mission. His more fervent followers believe that Wankanobi lives on within them today, some even claiming to hear his voice during times of duress. The attack on the Death Star came shortly after the Empire's destruction of Alderstan, a planet whose government was known to harbor terrorists. Responding to criticism over the total annihilation of the planet, Vader stated, "There is no middle ground in the War on Terror. Those who harbor terrorists are terrorists themselves. Alderaan was issued ample warning. The fight for continuing Freedom is often burdened by terrible cost." The cost of this war can still be seen today in the continuing efforts to build a coalition government on Tattooine. Longstanding animosities among the planets various ethnic groups, including the Jawas, Tusken Raiders and scattered human settlers, have been an impediment to the peace process. The Empire continues to maintain a small peace keeping force until a provisional government is finally in place. Much of the difficulty in fighting the Rebel forces stems from their lack of a central organizing structure. "They don't play by the traditional rules of war," complained one spokesman. "They come in all shapes and sizes, united only by their single-minded desire to destroy the Empire before it destroys them." The Emperor closed his comments today by stating that "the cowardly attack on the Death Star left a deep scar on the Empire. However, we will not stop fighting until every last evildoer has been brought to justice." He paused for several moments, wiping away a tear and then added with determination, "We will never forget."  "I wish we could all just get along," said one of the mourners. "But it's hard to offer an olive branch to a cult of religious fanatics whose main tool is violence and who insist on calling us the Dark Side.'

- Taken from a university message-board
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« Reply #262 on: 05-19-2002 04:52 »
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Heh heh, nice one, Ben. You're going to get flamed to high heaven for it, but if one divorces the Death Star analogy from the real tragic event, and concentrates solely on the Imperial propaganda, it's pretty good satire.

I might just not bother with Episode II; outside of religious fanboys and occasional exceptions, it's gathering a surprising amount of smelly bellybutton lint in the Opinion Department. I've read spoilers and such, and it looks like there are absolutely no surprises--save for Yoda's big scene and Boba Fett's ultimately-pointless "origin" story--and it's not like we don't already know how Ep III is going to turn out...meh, maybe as a vidiot rental.
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« Reply #263 on: 05-19-2002 09:04 »

 
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Originally posted by FishyJoe:
Come on, she's a girl--girls are stupid like that.
heheh

Portman gets away with the bad acting though because she's good to look at.
Hayden Whatever doesn't get away that easy though.

when i watched it the second time it didn't seem as great for some reason. it was still good, but i wasn't running out like "best thing ever you motherfuckers", so now i have my doubts if it is the best Star Wars or not.
i better watch Empire and A New Hope Again.  smile

I don't see what's so bad about Mace L. Windu's line. maybe the purple lightsaber distracted me.
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« Reply #264 on: 05-19-2002 13:44 »

 
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I've read spoilers and such, and it looks like there are absolutely no surprises

Guh...of course there's no surprises if you spoil yourself.
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« Reply #265 on: 05-21-2002 03:16 »

Just a thought, does anyone else think that the ship that Anakin and Padme took to Tatooine looks kind of like a chromed Planet Express Ship?
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« Reply #266 on: 05-21-2002 05:21 »
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It was better than Episode 1, better than Episode 4, not quite as good as Episode 5, and way way below the standard of the final showdown between Luke and Palpatine in Episode 6, but still better than the film as a whole.

Can't wait for Episode 3! All you who pull it to pieces, to hell with what you think!

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« Reply #267 on: 05-21-2002 13:23 »

Me wanna see all the lightsaber fights hehehehehehehhahahahahaha buhahahahahaa.
Huh? what! oh sorry
Just need too dry this droel up.
(i don't know if it's right spelled but what the heck)
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« Reply #268 on: 05-21-2002 23:29 »

I'm not gonna say my share until I see the movie. It seems the critics' reviews put together sound like a mixed bag. But I do have strong feelings that it's better than Episode I.
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« Reply #269 on: 05-21-2002 23:31 »

 
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I'm not gonna say my share until I see the movie.

So . . . what?  You were going to review the movie without actually seeing it?  How does that work?

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« Reply #270 on: 05-22-2002 02:59 »

I finally saw it today...I liked it!

My mom and aunt hated it, my mom thought it was the worst movie ever made...But I liked it!


Yeah, it wasnt great, but it sure was better than ep 1. 

none of the new star war movies can beat the originals, but I thought this one was ok.  the acting was pretty good, the story wasnt bad, the graphics were ok, and the sound was blasting.

I also liked disecting all the little key thingies tha link to the last 3 movies (first 3, whatever...) like how that kid is boba fet in the old movies and was revenging his fathers death (or something)


portman was pretty hot at the end too...what with the skimpy shirt and boobies...not that I was noticing...


btw, if this post seems pointless and lame, its because its 12 AM and im tired)
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« Reply #271 on: 05-22-2002 03:40 »

Yeah, she seemed pretty excited when they were retransmitting that message on Tatooine...
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« Reply #272 on: 05-25-2002 13:53 »

I just returned from the cinema.

Duuuuuuuuude!! Awesome! Spectacular! Brilliant! Anymore superlatives I can throw at this movie? This was one hell of a ride, let me get a few hours to calm down, and I'll post something a little more meaningful.

Quick observations: the romance between Padme and Anakin was handled very uneven, could've been a lot better, but that's a minor point. Yoda/Dooku lightsaber fight 5 thumbs up. That little guy drinks way too much coffee.  laff

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« Reply #273 on: 05-25-2002 15:54 »

I've only just seen it - I'm caught up in the "BEST THING EVER MADE" phase although I do have critisms - I thought when Ani went on about the fact that he slaughtered a mass of Tuskens - women, children and all, this was supposed to really shock Padame - did it? I'm still unsure...
Other scenes seemed a bit off too.

The graphics were fairly good - the battles were great - Lucas still worried about showing Humans getting shot and blown up though it appears - it made the Clone Army seem completely immune.

You wonder about how many soldiers were CGI. I wonder about how many soldiers weren't!

Also as a Star Wars nerd, several points in that film completely messed up widely accepted ideals on Star Wars evolution - they could have got away without having to include the Death Star plans - that was not needed - they're still pissing about with those plans it seems in 20 years time.  no no

But apart from that I really rather liked it - it had great atmosphere.  smile
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« Reply #274 on: 05-26-2002 06:22 »

 
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i loved it even more than Empire (yes).

did i really say that? shit. i take it back
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« Reply #275 on: 05-26-2002 06:41 »

Well I remember posting that I'd probably never see the film, but it seems I've outdone myself. If that's the right phrase which it isn't...
Anyway my point.. lol... As a movie-goer who knows nothing about Star Wars, the stories, the characters etc etc... I thought the movie was pretty damn good. I had to get stuff explained to me on the way but I was generally impressed with it. So I think I recommend it (as long as you have a friend to explain stuff) if you are in my situation with zero knowledge to see it cuz it's very idiot-friendly. Long movie, but interesting and cool nonetheless.
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« Reply #276 on: 05-26-2002 09:17 »

Wow, you know nothing about Star Wars and you still enjoyed it? You're in a minority for sure.

The thing I don't like is this sudden change of heart from the media. Before the new films came out there were magazine articles and such pointing out that, unlike Star Trek fanatics, Star Wars fans are often regular, non-geek, people with normal lives. The point was that it had transcended sci-if and become a part of general pop-culture. Fast forward to now. Now everyone who gives a damn about the new movies is suddenly a pimply, friend-less nerd (ie. a Trekkie), according to the print media and TV programs. There was even one wanker in the Sydney Morning Herald who went on about how Episode 2 being the perfect date film, for those who will never get dates. Well hello, I like this film series, a majority of my friends (both male and female) like this series, and I bet my left thumb has seen more action than this impotent, clueless paedophile masquerading as a journalist. Oh, by the way, I have lovely skin, I'm told...

Also, I'm glad Lucas pissed all over the Expanded Universe novels with the Death Star plans bit. They (the authors) think they fucking own the series the way they go on. Especially that wanker who apparently killed off Chewbacca, not to mention the Emperor coming back to life for the umteen millionth time. I think that other than Zahn's original 3 books, they all suck. Go George!
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« Reply #277 on: 05-26-2002 09:40 »

 
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Yeah, she seemed pretty excited when they were retransmitting that message on Tatooine...
Well, her brights were on...  wink
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« Reply #278 on: 05-26-2002 09:40 »

 
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Also, I'm glad Lucas pissed all over the Expanded Universe novels with the Death Star plans bit. They (the authors) think they fucking own the series the way they go on. Especially that wanker who apparently killed off Chewbacca, not to mention the Emperor coming back to life for the umteen millionth time. I think that other than Zahn's original 3 books, they all suck. Go George!

Well, the thing is, Lucas at one point made a big deal about how unlike, for example, Star Trek, Star Wars was supposed to have a single continuity.  Everything in the novels, the comic books, and even the role-playing game was supposed to be taken as canon.  He seems to have changed his mind about the "one continuity" idea, and I think that's kind of a shame, because it was such an ambitious concept to have everything fit together.  Ultimately though, it's his series, and he can do with it as he sees fit.    smile
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« Reply #279 on: 05-26-2002 09:44 »

We went to see it a second time last night, this time in Digital.  The video quality is certainly better.  I thought the Film version was rather grainly in places, but there's no evidence of that in the Digital version.  We were sitting pretty close to the screen, and in a few scenes you could make out the pixels.  Also in a couple of scenes where they panned across a room, I thought the digital version looked a little odd.  But otherwise, it looked a whole lot better than Film.
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