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John C
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« Reply #40 on: 11-10-2003 13:38 »
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After seeing this, I'm hoping The Simpsons hasn't lost it just yet.   wink TOTPD!

Overall Rating: 4/5
David A

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« Reply #41 on: 11-10-2003 13:57 »

Well, I enjoyed the return of Glenn Close as Homer's mother.  I always thought that she was one of the better used guest voices on The Simpsons.

I knew that she would escape by faking her own death; but I rather expected for Wiggum to be in on it.  He did help her to escape last time.

Overall, not quite as good as "Mother Simpson", but still a good episode.
Shadowstar

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« Reply #42 on: 11-10-2003 15:43 »

HEY!! COOL! Everyone thought Homer was dead at the beginning of "Mother Simpson," and now everyone thinks Mona is dead at the end of this ep! I don't know if that was intentional, but it was a cool connection. (For those who are forgettful, Homer faked his death to get out of work in the first one)
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #43 on: 11-10-2003 17:06 »
« Last Edit on: 11-10-2003 17:06 »

Pfft, I watched it since my family wanted me to see it with them. I was not amused.   tongue
DotheBartman

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« Reply #44 on: 11-10-2003 20:02 »

Here's what I posted at the NHC.  A couple things wont make sense entirely without reading the page there, but...whatever.

Anyways, here's my review. First off, let's just get the negatives out of the way first:

Some awkward pacing here and there (no big deal though)
The dancing cartoon animal in Homer's head. Amusing, but done before and I could see it coming a mile away.
Repeating the bash at Disney's California Adventure (funny the first time, not as funny here)
The ending could have been a tad more poignant. But I'll get to that.

So what was good? Well, pretty much everything else! The first two acts in particular were remarkably funny. The beautiful mind bit, all of the scenes of Homer bonding with his mother, Kent Brockman....I don't think there were any gags at all that weren't amusing on some level, and I laughed out loud numerous times. Plus, there was good use of side characters, and even the relief of seeing Judge Snyder in place of Judge Harm again. Awesome. Again, the pacing was a tad off at points, but no big deal. Homer also seemed a little dumb at points, but in this case it was done so lovably (especcially in the mentioned bonding sequences) that I didn't really care. Going back to what Tibor predicted I'd hate, I actually was laughing at the "driving away" bit. As he said, both amusing, and yet somehow combining a little heart into it. I did care about Homer's loss despite the gag, so it worked well for me. It was a hightlight if anything.

As for the third act, it pretty much kept up the same momentum. Lots of great gags (again none that failed), many of which had me laughing out loud. "Will you marry me? What do you mean no! I hope your car blows up" on the sign was one of the highligts. On top of that though, I was also suprised how well some of the serious moments worked. The casket scene was remarkably touching, again blending humor into it well also. The casket rolling away might've been a bit much, but I didn't really mind it. In fact in retrospect I think it might have added to the scene, and to Homer's despair (and the fact that it wasn't actually her body saves it). The scene in which she "died" in particular was very moving though. Even though I thought she would die ahead of time I was very suprised and did really find myself caring. That's no small feat, and though they ended with a Wiggum joke (which I thought was funny anyway), they didn't have Nelson say "Haw haw" or any similar joke that would have ruined the moment. Finally, the scene at the dinner table with the family was remarkably good and very sweet. The ending would have worked better, certainly, if it stopped on the newspaper message (as others have said), instead of adding her talking about clam chowder. But even that somehow was no big deal to me and didn't really ruin an otherwise sweet moment, and intriguing ending.

Final: Was it as good as "Mother Simpson"? No, not really. Even in the classic era I very much doubt that a sequel could match it. But it was still very good and, though it didn't touch me as much as Mother Simpson, still was very touching (a season premiere with an emotional side? Has Fox lost thier minds?) and also very funny. Maybe as the months go by we'll find ways to pick it apart, but for now all I can give it really is an:

A

Frankly, anyone who didn't like it to at least some extent shouldn't be watching television anymore.
Rocketboy

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« Reply #45 on: 11-10-2003 21:54 »

I really liked both epsodes. I heard a rumor that she was going to die, but I guess I was wrong.
leelaholic

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« Reply #46 on: 11-14-2003 08:43 »
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Originally posted by Shadowstar:
A problem I had was that the moment was too sentimental to have Homer hugging a bum. Writers, it is possible to have at least a minute with no jokes.

Oh, I don't know. That was kind of funny. I still could have done without it, though.

 
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Originally posted by DoTheBartman:
Frankly, anyone who didn't like it to at least some extent shouldn't be watching television anymore.

Yup. Just like Moe Baby Blues.
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« Reply #47 on: 11-16-2003 09:35 »

TREEHOUSE of horror xiv premiers on  uk t.v today
Teesside Inc

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« Reply #48 on: 11-16-2003 09:57 »

Yes, but what time?
CyberKnight

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« Reply #49 on: 11-16-2003 10:05 »
« Last Edit on: 11-16-2003 10:05 »

6:30, as usual. In fact I don't think that the "Double Simpsons" slot has moved at all ever since Sky One began.
Nefnar

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« Reply #50 on: 11-16-2003 10:22 »

I wouldn´t call this season crap I'd call it shit.
The simpsons are losing their sense.
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #51 on: 11-16-2003 10:38 »

^ Yep. I think I'm done with the simpsons. If it's on, and I got nothing better to do (which won't happen) I'll watch. But certainly won't go out of my way.

 
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
Frankly, anyone who didn't like it to at least some extent shouldn't be watching television anymore.

Gee, my watching of television has decreased very much lately anyway.  big grin

Shadowstar

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« Reply #52 on: 11-16-2003 11:21 »

Jeez, I didn't realize that 3/4 of PEEL's population hated the Simpsons this much. I shouldn't have even bothered putting it up.
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ANYWAY, "The President Wore Pearls" airs tonight! YAY!
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« Reply #53 on: 11-16-2003 14:05 »

well i just finshied watching THOH XIV
and it was quite good, it didn't have any really dumb jokes, reaper madness was the best. it could have been a little funnier though, there seemed to be a lack of jokes, especially in frinkenstien
Juliet

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« Reply #54 on: 11-16-2003 14:28 »

I just seen the new Simpsons Halloween special and I thought to it wasn’t a very good episode at all. I only like the bit where Bart and Milhouse stops time. It was funny where Homer was trying to eat his donut and he ends up naked with Nelson. Hehe I laugh out loud when Nelson almost said “Ha Ha”.
Jamesbondcja

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« Reply #55 on: 11-16-2003 17:32 »

Well just saw Halloween 14 and was pretty impressed. Especially the Fantastic 4 ending...Sweet!
M Jackson
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« Reply #56 on: 11-16-2003 18:07 »

I saw the new Treehouse of Horror on Sky One tonight, and I was really suprised. It was one of the best Halloween eps ever! I laughed out loud about 5 or 6 times, mainly because of the OTT graphic violence. Everything was really well done and felt much fresher than some recent episodes. Maybe now that Matt doesn't have Futurama to concentrate on (F*** U Fox!), he's putting all his (and his teams) effort back into The Simpsons!?
I can't judge the quality of the new series based on one episode, and a halloween one at that, but things are looking up!
Mr. Potter

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« Reply #57 on: 11-16-2003 18:54 »

I can't watch the Simpsons. I can't. I just try to watch 5 minutes of an episode, but I can't. It's just too bad.

That states my impressions about the new season.
CyberKnight

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« Reply #58 on: 11-16-2003 19:11 »
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My thoughts on THOH XIV:

Well, it wasn't too bad. Of course, it doesn't compare to anything like "The Shinning", but then I don't think any of the subsequent THOH shows have.

"Reaper Madness" wasn't actually as bad a copy of the FG plot as I expected, largely because it was compressed into one act. I do express slight reservations that Homer was more willing to sacrifice his wife than himself (although obviously that didn't happen, in the end, and the switch was very much in-character   wink).

"Frinkenstein" was the weakest segment, in my opinion. I think it was largely that it felt too rushed (I really think the reduced time is hurting the show, by the way).

Finally, "Stop The World, I Want to Goof Off" was none too shabby, although I do have one minor quibble - wouldn't it have been quicker for Bart and Milhouse to go get another watch from the makers?   wink Despite the fact that they're obviously not the same character, seeing the 20s Bart again made me shudder a little bit (I detest "Bart to the Future" ).

I won't (and can't) get an impression of how the season is going to turn out, largely because the THOH episodes have been better than the rest of the season over the past few seasons.

I'm still feeling a few of my nitpicks regarding the editing remain valid, though, although largely I suspect this is down to them trying to pare the deadspace to a minimum because of the short runtime. It's silly things like music cues that I feel aren't being lead-in properly, etc.

Still, the episode wasn't particularly awful, in my opinion, and it did manage to avoid one of my personal dislikes; toilet/sexual humour (except for the "penis" joke, which I was willing to forgive). The only problem I'm seeing now is that this doesn't leave much material left over. Personally I'd like to see more of the subtle political and social commentary that permeated the show in it's earlier seasons.
~FazeShift~

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« Reply #59 on: 11-16-2003 19:19 »

Quite frankly, I agree with everything he just said.

Frinkenstein was poo.
Who did the voice of Frinks dad, I missed it at the credits?

I would've liked to see Jennifer Garner animated a bit more, like some stuff she does in Alias.
Shadowstar

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« Reply #60 on: 11-16-2003 19:47 »

Frink Sr. was voiced by Jerry Lewis, who was the whole inspiration for Frink himself of course. I was really expecting something good in that segment...
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #61 on: 11-16-2003 21:04 »

 
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Originally posted by Shadowstar:
Jeez, I didn't realize that 3/4 of PEEL's population hated the Simpsons this much.

Hey now, I don't hate The Simpsons. I used to always watch it Sunday nights with my family. But now there's several reasons why I seem to have a dislike to them:

1) Any dumb ass can see The Simpsons is not what it used to be. I used to laugh a lot, now I only laugh once or twice. They're running out of plots, Homer is just not funny anymore, and everything's really been done to death. The more I think about it the more I miss the genious this show once possesed.

2) I admit, I may be cranky from this shell of a show still getting more episodes and Futurama not.  I think it may be, in comparison, that I see Futurama much more enjoyable and so The Simpsons seem less complimentable in my eyes. They only really have comedy, I've gotten a bit emotional in the Simpsons, but no where as close as I have gotten in Futurama, and their comedy really is getting dry. The Simpsons is also less witty and has less plot twists than Futurama. I consider myself more wise than most of my schoolmates, and I always love to have one-ups over them. Whereas, in Futurama, I may understand a joke they don't. It's good to feel that way, no? Well, in The Simpsons, there seems to be less and less of those.

That's basically my reasons, make of them what you wish. I'll still watch this show- hey it's better than 80% of other TV- but not out of my way to watch it. I think I still like the show, and I've never hated it.
John C
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« Reply #62 on: 11-16-2003 21:17 »
« Last Edit on: 11-16-2003 21:17 »

I just watched "The President Wore Pearls", and it was all right, but not great. The third act was very rushed, although act one and the beginning of act two were good (Willy's Milhouse impression). Overall, I give it a:

2.5/5
newhook_1

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« Reply #63 on: 11-16-2003 21:27 »

Did you see Evita? You kinda need to to fully enjoy that ep which I would have given 10/10 if not for the ending (which the writers really couldn't help given the source material anyway). Gets a 9/10 from me.
John C
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« Reply #64 on: 11-16-2003 21:29 »

No, I didn't. I liked this episode, though, it's just not the best, IMO.
newhook_1

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« Reply #65 on: 11-16-2003 21:41 »

Oh, your score is understandable then  wink . It is a really good movie though.
Lindsay99

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« Reply #66 on: 11-16-2003 23:46 »

I thought The President who wore pearls was great! The songs were great and so were the jokes. I gave it a 9/10
LAN.gnome

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« Reply #67 on: 11-16-2003 23:53 »

I haven't watched enough of the newer Simpsons to really rate this last ep (The President Who Wore Pearls), but I must say that Homer's prancing during his Nelson impression was pretty funny. "I drive a pink Miata!"  laff
CyberKnight

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« Reply #68 on: 11-17-2003 03:36 »

By the way, to anyone who has the Simpsons S3 DVDs and knows of the Easter Eggs:

Juliet

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« Reply #69 on: 11-17-2003 06:39 »

 
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Originally posted by CyberKnight:
Finally, "Stop The World, I Want to Goof Off" was none too shabby, although I do have one minor quibble - wouldn't it have been quicker for Bart and Milhouse to go get another watch from the makers?    wink Despite the fact that they're obviously not the same character, seeing the 20s Bart again made me shudder a little bit (I detest "Bart to the Future" ).


I like seeing Bart in his 20s. He looks even cuter.


Teesside Inc

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« Reply #70 on: 11-17-2003 07:59 »
« Last Edit on: 11-17-2003 07:59 »

The Simpsons Treehouse of horror xiv was Crap.
Bart stop time to pull Skinner's pants down and putting Lisa's finger up her nose make me sick why? why not put Jessica Lovejoy's finger up her nose or pull Sideshow Bob's pants down?

      no no       confused     puke     up yours
leelaholic

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« Reply #71 on: 11-17-2003 08:29 »
« Last Edit on: 11-18-2003 00:00 »

cut and paste from my review at NHC

WOO! This was a great episode!!

The music cues were great, the singing was cool, the songs were good. Man, the Simpsons season 15 is making Futurama look like a disgrace!

[edit]Okay, it's not, whatever[/edit]

5/5   big grin

Also, before I saw the Bart of War rerun, I didn't realize how good it was (especially the dig at South Park).
evan

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« Reply #72 on: 11-17-2003 12:30 »

Last night's episode wasn't bad, it was certainly better than the crap during season 14. However, the "Evita" parody seemed a little dated ("take that, movie from 5 years ago!" ), but everyone stayed in character and there was no sign of "Jerkass Homer." It was pretty solid, overall. I hope this is a sign of things to come.

Grade:B
CTV

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« Reply #73 on: 11-17-2003 12:50 »

Saw Treehouse of Horror 14 yesterday. Better than most of the current crop of Simpsons episodes. God being stopped by the train and Comic Book Guy with the lightsaber were particular highlights. Also, I'm really surprised no-one mentioned the hobo and the 'What's this about a free hot meal?' line or words to that effect. Sound familiar anyone?
User_names_suck
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« Reply #74 on: 11-17-2003 13:13 »

 
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Originally posted by Teesside Inc:
The Simpsons Treehouse of horror xiv was Crap.
Bart stop time to pull Skinner's pants down and putting Lisa's finger up her nose make me sick why? why not put Jessica Lovejoy's finger up her nose or pull Sideshow Bob's pants down?

       no no        confused      puke      up yours

what are you talking about that would be no better
zoidberg74

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« Reply #75 on: 11-17-2003 13:24 »

"The President Wore Pearls"  - i give it

2.5 stars... not bad, but not great...funny, but not "haha" funny. but being a huge Simpsons fan , i have never given a rating lower than 2.5 stars.
TriforceBun

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« Reply #76 on: 11-17-2003 14:10 »

"Last night's episode wasn't bad, it was certainly better than the crap during season 14. However, the "Evita" parody seemed a little dated ("take that, movie from 5 years ago!" )"

It wasn't a parody of the movie, it was a parody of the MUCH more famous Andrew Lloyd Webber musical!

As for the episode, I loved it.  It was the best episode I've seen in YEARS on the show; the songs were produced well, the gags all worked, the plot was great, the editing was great, the pacing was great, no sexual/toilet humor...it felt like something out of season 8 (only better!).  Really awesome episode overall, though next week's has me a little scared...

5/5 A+...best thing I've seen on TV since Jurassic Bark.
User_names_suck
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« Reply #77 on: 11-17-2003 18:31 »

i'm sure 'regina monolouges' will be crap, where they'll have a load of crap sterotyping on us brits.

just remember these first few have been holdovers
and so will 'regina monlouges'

maybe the jean era will be a reverse of scullys era, starting of good and then getting so far it seems this will start of bad and eventually be really good
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #78 on: 11-17-2003 19:10 »
« Last Edit on: 11-17-2003 19:10 »

My short little grade:

I thought "President Who Wore Pearls" was pretty good for a newer Simpsons ep. I cracked up at Homer's little dance and a few other funny lines. The rest wasn't horrible but still not worthy of going out of my way to see it (which I didn't). I'll give it a
B-

 
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Originally posted by Leelaholic:
Man, the Simpsons season 15 is making Futurama look like a disgrace!

    no no
DotheBartman

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« Reply #79 on: 11-17-2003 20:15 »

I disagree with Leelaholic overall, but in all honesty the last two episodes were both good enough to be better then most Futurama episodes last season ("Jurassic Bark" being one of the only exceptions, maybe THE only one).  THOH was pretty problematic of course.
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