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[Reply #680 on:]

Hmm....maybe I'm finally becoming a Grandpa after all this time...

Alright, looking back at the more positive parts of the ep now, Butters dating the Canadian girl was okay I guess. It didn' go anywhere, but the scene under the stars was cute and the fathers scene about Canadian Trump did the topic relevence. Joke about everyone angry at Kyles speeches was okayish. I liked the Canadian alphabet joke and Garrisons song (though very similar to Cartmans minority song in Pee). Uh...I liked the mention of Lion King 2?

Still, even remembering some of the more decent moments, I still really hated this episode. Pretty much all of the "continuity" the put in made me cringe (hey remember that funny throwaway hot Cosby line? Lets see if its funny if said three times on its own...nope. Oh, and how bout if Jenner is all fucked up looking and keeps killing people, hah..). If you're gonna have continuity, at least have it build towards a story, not just putting in minor references and connections to last week for some cheap gag reuse.

Garrison as Trump didn't really do much, saying to "fuck em all to death" constantly isn't good satire, then proceeding to rape Canadian Trump to death was just...ugh. Everything just felt so disjointed, and the repeated gags just kept dissapointing me every time they kept going with them.

If you like this one...fine. It had a few good laughs in there, and the plot points for a good SP episode seem to be there, but I still stand by saying this is one of the worst episodes I've seen of the show.

[Reply #681 on:]

Pretty much all of the "continuity" the put in made me cringe (hey remember that funny throwaway hot Cosby line? Lets see if its funny if said three times on its own...nope. Oh, and how bout if Jenner is all fucked up looking and keeps killing people, hah..). If you're gonna have continuity, at least have it build towards a story, not just putting in minor references and connections to last week for some cheap gag reuse.

I mean, the story built pretty heavily on the need for characters to remain politically correct and the animosity of some characters surrounding that, not to mention Kyle's subplot being entirely based around the ending of the previous episode - both of which I expect will follow on into future episodes as well. Most of the jokey references were just basic callbacks, but this was practically part two of a two-parter in terms of storyline - it had far more continuity that most of season 18.

[Reply #682 on:]

I echo all of cyber_turnip's sentiments above. This episode was essentially the ying to last week's yang - the season premiere went after those who take political correctness too far, so this one went after those who do the exact opposite. They complimented one another perfectly.

[Reply #683 on:]

S19E3:

The City Part of Town

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The town of South Park is gentrifying and Kenny thinks it's time to get a job.

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YES, FINALLY A NEW KENNY EPISODE!

[Reply #684 on:]

Looks like this is the season of social commentary.

[Reply #685 on:]

It wouldn't be the first one and, to be fair, it sounds like a logical continuation of the last two episodes.

Sounds quite interesting actually. I'm really enjoying this season so far.

[Reply #686 on:]

I watched the last two episodes back to back and was pretty disappointed in them.  may wait to hear reviews on this one before trying to catch it, because part of me is kind of done with the show at this point

[Reply #687 on:]

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Nice to see Mayor McDaniels back, even if she may not have any lines.

[Reply #688 on:]

Those fake commercials were fucking gold.

The rest of the episode seemed to be more-or-less expanding on subject matter touched upon in the season premiere, but it all worked really well. I love the increased focus on social commentary this season, and I think South Park has well and truly become appointment television again now. Also, the serialisation feels a little more natural this year - I think Matt and Trey just needed some time to find their groove with it.

[Reply #689 on:]

Footage has surfaced from a cancelled South Park game.

[Reply #690 on:]

Well, I'm definitely glad they held off on re-entering the video game market until they had something truly great on their hands. Interesting video, though.

[Reply #691 on:]

Decent episode. I hope they're building up all this PC stuff to the point where something extremely offensive and insane happens in the finale.

[Reply #692 on:]

Again a pretty good episode, I like how far they're taking the self-referential parody. Serialisation does seem to work well, as episodes so far have had continuation of both story and theme/general mood.

[Reply #693 on:]

Yeah, I was saying the same thing to my friend yesterday about how there's a running theme this season on top of a running story - something I generally only see in prestige dramas (save from maybe Arrested Development). They're really starting to nail this new approach to story arcs now.

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Yeah, it was a solid continuation of everything so far. I'm really pleased with how this season is shaping up.

It's amazing how up and down South Park is. If you plot the quality of most shows, it generally starts off so well, gets better for a while, then gets worse until the end. South Park got better, got worse and then just kept getting better and worse to the point that the graph would look like an Excite Bike level or something.

I think season 19 would have to monumentally take a turn for the worse to not end up being the best season since 14, and if they keep things up at their current quality, it could easily be the best thing they've done since 11 or maybe even 10.

[Reply #695 on:]

Is this week one of their breaks?

And if so, when's the next one? After the next three episodes?

[Reply #696 on:]

Looking at Comedy Central's site, looks like it is indeed a break week.

[Reply #697 on:]

Is this week one of their breaks?

And if so, when's the next one? After the next three episodes?

Well, last season the breaks were after 4 and 8 (and this would've been the case for season 17 had they not missed the deadline for episode 4). So I'd imagine the next break would be after episode 6 or 7 - they generally don't seem to do more than 4 in a row now.

[Reply #698 on:]

I wish they'd be a bit more open with their schedule if they're not going to keep the breaks consistent year to year.

Anyway, I'm going to miss the show this week.

[Reply #699 on:]

Apparently they're taking three breaks this year. The next two will be on November 4 (after episode 6) and November 25 (after episode 8).

[Reply #700 on:]

1904:

You're Not Yelping

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There’s a new kid in school and his parents have opened a restaurant in the recently gentrified part of town. Cartman now considers himself the top online restaurant reviewer in South Park.

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[Reply #701 on:]

I like that they're doing the whole serialisation thing again this season. I really didn't expect it to continue being a thing. This season has been pretty good so far. I agree that it's interesting how up and down the overall quality of the show is this far into the run instead of just having been lame for many years like The Simpsons was at this point in its run.

[Reply #702 on:]

I'm glad that they're still going with it the serialisation so heavily, though I'm not thrilled about there being three breaks this season. I mean, whatever they need to do to keep the quality up. If they need to do that, then fair enough, but... yeah. I dunno.

[Reply #703 on:]

I honestly don't mind. It doesn't affect the episode count in any way, and I'm sure it's just a sign that Matt and Trey are busy with something else which we can soon also enjoy (after all, they are generally juggling at least 2 projects at any given time).

[Reply #704 on:]

It doesn't really bother me either, since there used to be, like, a six month break in the middle of the season. Or however long it was. It FELT like several years.

[Reply #705 on:]

That just felt like we got two 7-episode seasons a year so it never bothered me. Instead of waiting 9 months between new seasons, you were only ever about 4 1/2 away from new episodes.

You could argue that now it feels like we get three 3-4 episode seasons a year, except that it doesn't.

Anyway, I don't mind. Like you say, in the long run it doesn't make any difference. Typically, I'd be all for this kind of thing if it made a difference to the quality, but the better-part-of-a-year break before season 17 as well as the breaks built into that one certainly didn't seem to improve anything beyond allowing them time to put a new opening sequence together.

Speaking of which, isn't it weird that this show has been using the same theme tune for almost a decade now? Before this one, they never stuck with an opening theme longer than 4 seasons before remixing and revamping - usually 3. But this "Whamola" mash-up has been with us for 9 seasons, now, and given that they updating the opening sequence without the music recently, I can't see them changing it any time soon.

[Reply #706 on:]

I was quite surprised that they didn't change the theme when they overhauled the intro a few years back. I don't really think this version of the theme totally works with it.

[Reply #707 on:]

Well, that boogers & cum song was hilarious, though the visuals were gross as fuck.

I also loved Whistlin' Willy's rage at the Yelpers, that was great.

[Reply #708 on:]

I wasn't all that impressed by this one... It felt like a decent idea for a B-plot stretched out to fill an entire episode. I got the point they were trying to make and still had quite a few laughs (namely the mob scene where everyone is giving their speeches, somehow not noticing everyone else doing the same thing), but it definitely didn't feel like it warranted a whole 20+ minutes of television.

The song was really good though, despite some of the lyrics... I've always hated jokes about people doing disgusting things to other people's food - it's just plain offputting to me. But damn if the melody wasn't catchy as hell.

Overall, not a bad episode by any means, just not up to the standard set by the first three episodes.

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1905:

Safe Space

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Cartman is the latest victim of body shaming. Randy has to deal with uncomfortable confrontations every time he shops at the new Whole Foods. He feels exposed at every turn and it’s ruining his Whole Foods experience. Randy and Cartman are both seeking a safe space.

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[Reply #710 on:]

I was quite surprised that they didn't change the theme when they overhauled the intro a few years back. I don't really think this version of the theme totally works with it.

I was also genuinely quite thrown when I saw it with the new theme. I agree that it doesn't really work.

I wasn't all that impressed by this one... It felt like a decent idea for a B-plot stretched out to fill an entire episode. I got the point they were trying to make and still had quite a few laughs (namely the mob scene where everyone is giving their speeches, somehow not noticing everyone else doing the same thing), but it definitely didn't feel like it warranted a whole 20+ minutes of television.

I'm inclined to agree, though, I'm not even sure that I entirely got what their point was. Obviously, they were satirising internet critics (arguably, the internet as a whole), but for about 2 minutes it shifted gears into being an ISIS parody before abandoning that concept, and there a handful of other things thrown into the mix that didn't seem to go anywhere, either...

Anyway, I enjoyed it. It felt like season 19 is continuing to be a very strong season, though it was probably the weakest of the four so far.

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[Reply #712 on:]

*micro-bump*

Eeeeeh, that was an okay episode, I guess. Having Reality be an actual character was kind of odd, however, I found his voice to be hilarious.

Again, it seems Trey & Matt don't really know what message they're trying to get across. It just kind of ended with all the people afraid of being shamed literally killing the harsh reality of life and carrying on in their safe space...

[Reply #713 on:]

I think this episode and the last one were still good, continuing the satire, just not that much going on with them. I mean, PC Principal is still there, so there won't really be a resolution to an episode and even more bullshit is going to happen without comeuppance until finale, I imagine.

I liked the Whole Food cashier scenes and them being almost half of the episode.

[Reply #714 on:]

It wasn't a bad episode, but it definitely felt like some of the material was being padded out to reach the full 20+ minute runtime. And Matt and Trey really didn't have much to say about those on either side of the issue that hasn't already been said.

Having said that, turning Reality into an actual character was pretty amusing, and I really enjoyed the musical number (though those fake commercials could've been shorter, given how much time was spent on fake commercials just a couple of episodes earlier).

[Reply #715 on:]

I agree with everything for the most part.

I loved the musical number. It was a surprisingly fully-fledged out piece of work given what the show's musical numbers are usually like. It felt closer to their stuff from The Book of Mormon and the South Park movie than what we normally see on the TV series.

I'm still a big fan of this season, overall, though I'd like to see another really great episode soon to cement it as being worthy of all the praise I heaped on it based on the first couple of episodes.

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1906:

Tweek x Craig

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The Asian girls in school are drawing dreamy pictures of Tweek and Craig. Meanwhile, Cartman, who struggles to understand his friends’ relationship, finds he has an admirer of his own.

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Also, they're asking for fans to submit art of Tweek and Craig to be used on the show. (Yes, that creepy fan art you see on Tumblr and whatnot of them making out and shit like that, better known as "yaoi".)

I love that the title of the ep is a callback to the season 3 episode, and we get a return of Cupid Me!

[Reply #717 on:]

Oh fuck no. Cupid Me is one of the lowest points to which this show has ever sunk.

That said, everything else about the episode sounds pretty cool.

[Reply #718 on:]

I laughed hard and I laughed often. Even the really stupid Cupid Me stuff couldn't ruin this episode for me. I liked how the continuity came into play but without seeming quite as forced as in a lot of the episodes so far this season.

[Reply #719 on:]

I was absolutely laughing my ass off at Trey Parker's Japanese karaoke song turning into that extremely loud shout towards the end, that was brilliant.

PC Principal shouting at Leslie both in this episode and last week's will also never fail to make me laugh super hard. I genuinely like PC Principal, he isn't as much of a dick as he was in ep 1.

I love both Tweek and Craig; more of them on screen together is a good thing imo. (Just not as partners/yaoi. )