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Nurdbot

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« Reply #640 on: 11-28-2005 18:36 »

You wouldn't believe how many people on the SWG board thought he was real until 10 of us fans had to hammer it into their skulls.
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« Reply #641 on: 11-28-2005 19:51 »
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1) You misspelled the link
2) Wow.  Morons.
i thought there was something wrong with that^^
                                            they talked about of G4 (filter) and they said it was real and i believed them for about 2 days. until i realized lucas wouldnt reely bash fans so much

 http://www.supershadow.com
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« Reply #642 on: 11-28-2005 20:14 »

 
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(SuperShadow: Anakin has no mortal father. Neither Plagueis nor Sidious have anything to do with the conception and birth of Anakin. End of debate for all time.)
You know, I didn't buy the Anakin = Plagus's Experiment theory before, but now that SuperShadow has denied it, I find it distinctly more likely.

Also, the "exclusive George Lucas interviews" are the greatest thing ever.

 
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George Lucas: Thanks for all the compliments. It makes me feel good to be appreciated by the fans.

I certainly am elated that you enjoyed my summaries of Episode 7 to 9. I spent many, many years developing the plotline for the sequel trilogy. I like to rip off ideas from sources like the Bible because it is easier to use pre-existing ideas instead of going through the laborious task of coming up with original ideas. It‘s always best to copy what someone else has already done.
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« Reply #643 on: 11-28-2005 20:57 »

if you go a couple days back he might be bashing the fans, it is so funny
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« Reply #644 on: 11-29-2005 00:19 »

 
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You'll always have the Shatterpoint novel Nix.

Either that or the Tales from Jabba's Palace book.
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« Reply #645 on: 11-29-2005 01:58 »

 
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(SuperShadow: Anakin has no mortal father. Neither Plagueis nor Sidious have anything to do with the conception and birth of Anakin. End of debate for all time.)
You know, I didn't buy the Anakin = Plagus's Experiment theory before, but now that SuperShadow has denied it, I find it distinctly more likely.

Also, the "exclusive George Lucas interviews" are the greatest thing ever.

 
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George Lucas: Thanks for all the compliments. It makes me feel good to be appreciated by the fans.
Those interviews are hilarious. Not only does Lucas sound like he's been beaten over the head with a hammer, but he spouts so much egotistic crap no real business man will say really.

I expect SuperShadow puts on a beard and sits on the chair opposite for his Lucas Interviews.

For extra yucks, find out about Shadow's self insertion Jedi character.

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« Reply #646 on: 11-30-2005 21:32 »

 
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also, that's not Darth Maul, that's Even Piell. Yep. *removes geek hat*

Er, I meant Eeth Koth. Well, they have similiar names... ahem. Look over there!
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« Reply #647 on: 11-30-2005 21:43 »

I watched Episode III a few times to get some of the Original Trilogy references. Then watched Episode IV. I then noticed that Ewan McGreggo's Obi-Wan and Alec Guinness's Obi-Wan look so much alike. Good job matching them up, George. One of the things done right in the Prequels.
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« Reply #648 on: 11-30-2005 21:52 »

 
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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
Those interviews are hilarious. Not only does Lucas sound like he's been beaten over the head with a hammer, but he spouts so much egotistic crap no real business man will say really.
 

I take it that you've never seen an actual TV interview of Lucas. He does speak like he's been bashed over the head with something. Perhaps a big bag of manure.
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« Reply #649 on: 12-01-2005 21:23 »

I thought SuperShadow's Sequel Trilogy scripts were real for a while, and then, after thinking about it after a while, just went against it because we don't need another Star Wars movie. Wait...how can I say that? Unless Lucas made it as bad as the Gungans, I'd want more.
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« Reply #650 on: 12-02-2005 06:08 »

 
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 I take it that you've never seen an actual TV interview of Lucas. He does speak like he's been bashed over the head with something. Perhaps a big bag of manure.
Granted, But he doesn't blatantly admit it's all for the money, then mock us fans for falling for it. I know Lucas has big ego, Skywalker Ranch is proof enough really...

Also, Lucas did a great job with Obi-Wan but failed horribly with Anakin who was the main character of the whole thing. I remember watching AOTC halfway through and every time the scene switched from Obi-Wan kicking ass/doing some recon to Anakin trying to get his cherry popped, I groaned.

You could touch a coked up Carrie Fisher after the Holiday Special and replace Hayden with it in the last two movies and you can instantly see the difference. The stick can emote for one.
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« Reply #651 on: 12-02-2005 06:10 »

 
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Originally posted by i_c_weiner:
I watched Episode III a few times to get some of the Original Trilogy references. Then watched Episode IV. I then noticed that Ewan McGreggo's Obi-Wan and Alec Guinness's Obi-Wan look so much alike. Good job matching them up, George. One of the things done right in the Prequels.


There's a documentary about that thing on Disc 2
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« Reply #652 on: 12-02-2005 14:15 »

Im tryin to figirue out how he got the spoilers for ep. 3 before it came out
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« Reply #653 on: 12-02-2005 19:51 »

Zogonif: Yeah, I saw it. It's pretty cool how they connect the movies.
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« Reply #654 on: 12-03-2005 22:44 »

Has anyone heard of this SW online game
 http://www.swcombine.com/ 

Also is it any good ?
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« Reply #655 on: 12-04-2005 03:52 »

Hey, that looks like SW: Galaxies, only not a rip off!
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« Reply #656 on: 12-04-2005 10:33 »

Here is the game info...

The Star Wars Combine is a free massively multiplayer online role-playing simulation game based on the Star Wars Universe, developed by amateurs in their spare time. This sentence résumés the concept behind this project, and great care must be taken with each and every word.
The Star Wars Combine is an online game. Its purpose is to bring fun to the players by offering them a universe that they may immerse themselves in and forget, for a while, their real lives.

The Star Wars Combine is massive. Its purpose is to welcome and gather thousands of players inside the same game, creating an extremely rich gaming environment. The multitude of players generates an unlimited quantity of interactions between them.

The Star Wars Combine is about role-playing. When playing the Combine, the end-users are not only playing an avatar inside the universe; but also they are investing a part of themselves into what they would dream to be if they were living in the Star Wars universe.

The Star Wars Combine is a simulation. A simulation is the partial implementation of existing mechanisms, from physics to economy, including politics, engineering, logic, and even socialization.

The Combine is about Star Wars. The Combine is developed by Star Wars fans, for Star Wars fans. The purpose is to provide a Star Wars universe where fans may dream.

The Star Wars Combine is a free game. Free for the end-users, free for the players, but this does not mean the Combine does not have to face financial charges. There are costs associated to such a project: financial costs as well as time investments.

Finally, the Combine is developed by amateurs during their spare time. The entire project is only developed as side activity by some Star Wars fans. This particularity will have to be taken into consideration during the development phase.

The Combine is a free online massively role-playing simulation game, based in the Star Wars universe, developed by amateurs in their spare time. This sentence already generated a full page of concepts. However there is more behind the Combine. Many other concepts derive directly from what sounded like a simple sentence at first.

Main Features
  • Create Star Wars character, choose race, skills, background.
  • Assign skill levels from 5 different areas.
  • Join the Galactic Empire or the Rebel Alliance and enter the Galactic Civil War, or pursue a career in the backdrop in more than fifty other groups as a simple merchant, smuggler, pirate, pilot ... the possibilities are endless!
  • Have a chance to be Force sensitive and become a soldier of the light or a lord of the dark!
  • Buy and sell spaceships, space stations, vehicles, facilities, items, and weapons with other living players.
  • Explore a vast galaxy of over 4,000 life-filled planets and visit the elegant cities of well-known localities like Corellia, Tatooine, Naboo and more, using a unique real-time movement system for ground travel, air travel, subspace and hyperspace travel.
  • Use the graphical interface to move across the planet, moon, spaceship or space station you are currently on and watch as your ship enters a planet's atmosphere.
  • Post on the classified ads offering your services for all to see.
  • Be a part of a vast community almost 2000 members strong, visiting the message centre, helping to shape the progress of the Star Wars
  • Combine with suggestions, role playing your character with others in many unique scenarios, or visiting the chatrooms for general chit-chat with other members.
  • Personalize the Darkness Interface with a "skin" of your choice!
  • Get a free, web-based holo-mail address to talk to your fellow combine members or anyone else on the internet.
  • With many more upcoming features such as production, combat, and a galactic market!
  • Play the game, no matter whether you're on a Windows, Macintosh or Linux/Unix computer.
For a full list of features, check below
 
Character Actions:
  • create character
  • choose skills
  • upgrade skills as you advance in levels
  • see amount of credits, CPs, HPs, XPs, etc you have
  • graphical force meter
  • edit your IC profile
  • view your inventory
  • view your Force skills (if Force sensitive)
  • talk to other characters in real time
  • fight (Brawling NPCs only)
  • get wounded/heal/kill
  • send and receive credits
Faction Actions:
  • create a new faction
  • join/leave a faction
  • see the memberlist
  • view the inventory
  • manage the budget
  • give privileges
  • pay salaries
  • expel members
  • arrest members
  • execute members
  • buy/sell factions
  • buy/sell stocks of a faction
  • rename your faction
  • change profile of your faction
  • change the leader of your faction
Galactic Map Actions:
Planets:
  • get planetary maps
  • move on a planet's surface
  • build cities
  • see tax level
  • enter description for a planet
Cities:   
  • found cities
  • enter description for a city
  • get a city map
  • construct streets and buildings
  • prospect for raw materials
  • mine raw materials
Buildings:
  • construct buildings
  • enter description for a building
  • buy/sell buildings
  • enter buildings
  • move inside of buildings
  • store material inside a building
  • lock/unlock buildings
  • earn income with buildings
Rooms:
  • enter descriptions for a room
  • see other people in the room
  • lock/unlock  [/small]

    Like Nerd-o said, it seems like a Galaxies rip yet it's not.
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« Reply #657 on: 12-04-2005 12:24 »

 
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Originally posted by Nerd-o-rama:
Hey, that looks like SW: Galaxies, only not a rip off!
A rip off of what exactly? Unless you've played the current crappy combat system which was forced apon us last month than I must admit you are wrong dammit.

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« Reply #658 on: 12-04-2005 15:26 »
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Leia is wearing the bounty hunter outfit when she gets nabbed.  Jabba makes some slimy suggestiveness, then in the next scene she's wearing a HOT armor Bikini.

I've always wondered if Jabba made her wear it, or if it was under her disguise the whole time.
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« Reply #659 on: 12-04-2005 15:55 »

Jabba forced her, we all know Leia's view on underwear when we first met her in A New Hope anyway :P .
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« Reply #660 on: 12-04-2005 17:29 »

No, I meant a rip off as in "not worth paying for" not a plagiarized thing.
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« Reply #661 on: 12-04-2005 18:56 »

It was worth paying for until recently.
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« Reply #662 on: 12-04-2005 19:11 »

 
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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
Jabba forced her, we all know Leia's view on underwear when we first met her in A New Hope anyway :P .

Has anyone seen the AFI tribute to George Lucas - most of it was arse-kissing, but Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher had a good time. Harrison saying things like "I especially want to thank George for my role, it changed my life and launched my careeryaddayadda...ugh, aren't these tributes so wonderful?" and of course "I still remember the words I told George during filming...I said 'George, you can type this shit, but you can't say it!'

And Carrie Fisher...
"Hello, my names Mrs Han Solo, I'm an alcoholic...I'm an alcoholic because George Lucas ruined my life! ...I want to thank George...for making me into a doll my first husband can stick pins into...making me a pez despensor so my daughter can rip my head off and eat things coming out of my neck whenever I tell her to do her homework...oh and George now owns my likeness so every time I look in the mirror I have to send him two dollars..."
But the strenous link is:
"...and now what about that cow running around, playing my mother or something...she gets to have a new outfit and hairdoo every time she walks through the door! AND she probably wears a bra! But for me, nooooooo, you said no one wears underwear in space!"
 wink
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« Reply #663 on: 12-05-2005 06:36 »

You have to feel sorry for Fisher and Hamil, Unlike Ford they didn't get a very good break after the trilogy. And Billy D.

Though Hamil does a very good damn Joker in Batman though.
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« Reply #664 on: 12-05-2005 08:22 »

Mark's quite the accomplished voice actor nowadays, but I've very rarely seen him actually on the screen - he did do a Outer Limits episode once I saw.
I was about to say that Carrie hasn't done much since Star Wars, but she has, not in any huge roles but she has - she's now more of a film writer - a very successful film writer as well, certainly talent over celebrity. But otherwise, she's gone through a lot of problems.
Billy I guess may have suffered the worst. He really should have continued his Harvey Dent role in the Batman films but WB ended up buying his contract out to give to Tommy Lee Jones. Now he seems to only be doing about one or two projects every year. I've heard people say he's not the most cheerful of people at Star Wars cons either. I think it's a case of his career actually technically taking a turn for the worse after Star Wars  hmpf
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« Reply #665 on: 12-05-2005 09:50 »

Which goes to prove the world is screwed up, I mean Lando is awesome!
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« Reply #666 on: 12-05-2005 18:18 »

But that's just it - pre-1980, everyone was going "Cool! Billy Dee Williams in Star Wars!" then post 1980 "Cool! Lando Calrissian in Batman!"

I mean, look at Alec Guiness - absolutely amazing career with many iconic roles and performances - but I'll bet you he'll be remembered as Obi-wan Kenobi - something that'll probably drive his spirit insane.
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« Reply #667 on: 12-05-2005 19:33 »

I thought Carrie's speeches at the AFI were great. I love the bra speech part, after watching the Empire of Dreams extra on the DVD.

I feel sad for the Original Trilogy cast. Mark and Carrie didn't have much of a big career after the movies, but Harrison had a pretty good one. Now, looking at this trilogy, what do you make of Ewan, Hayden, and Natalie? I see Ewan doing great, as he was already established before the films and has done well after the first movie's release, such as his role in Big Fish, but I'm not too sure on the other two.
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« Reply #668 on: 12-05-2005 20:04 »

Hmmm, Alec Guiness movies. Didn't he also play in that made for family viewing not at all true Bridge Over The River Kwaii movie?

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« Reply #669 on: 12-05-2005 20:08 »

IMDB it you ninnyhammer.  tongue

Heheh, "Carrie Fishers anti breast-jiggle tape".
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« Reply #670 on: 12-06-2005 01:01 »
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Natalie Portman will do fine. She has that nice quality of actually being able to act. You just wouldn't pick it from watching Star Wars..

Besides, both she and Ewan McGregor were acclaimed performers before they were cast in the prequels, so there's little chance of them being typecast, especially as it was far from being the best thing either of them has done.
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« Reply #671 on: 12-06-2005 02:00 »

Ah, Garden State.  Thou hast shown me the incredible contradiction of Natalie Portman's acting ability...

Now it's just Christiansen that I hate.  Urgh.
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« Reply #672 on: 12-06-2005 05:09 »

According to my humble sidekick Wikipedia, Christiansen was only in the 2001 film Life As A House before the Star Wars Prequels.

So, in answer to the question you didn't ask, he never had a career.
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« Reply #673 on: 12-06-2005 05:22 »

 
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Thou hast shown me the incredible contradiction of Natalie Portman's acting ability...

I think it has more to do with George Lucas' hack-like direction and dialogue writing than any contradictions in her acting ability.
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« Reply #674 on: 12-06-2005 06:05 »

The original cast didn't have to take the dialogue too seriously and generally pratted around (just on of the reasons George didn't direct ESB and RotJ due to being left basically traumatised at the end of the first film) but it made for a better film I think. But in defence of Anakin's appalling dialogue, especially around chat-up lines, is basically that Anakin is a brash, extremely arrogant, hot-tempered Jedi who thus has to repress a whole load of feelings and forgo actually chatting up women - no wonder he's crap at it.

I think Ben is right though, a lot of good actors were kind of underplayed, I also think that some people have said that Christiansen has actually pulled off some good performances outside Star Wars.
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« Reply #675 on: 12-06-2005 06:36 »

Shattered Glass another one that features Hayden Christensen
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« Reply #676 on: 12-06-2005 07:48 »

 
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According to my humble sidekick Wikipedia, Christiansen was only in the 2001 film Life As A House before the Star Wars Prequels.

So, in answer to the question you didn't ask, he never had a career.
When he learns the meaning of emote, maybe he'll get a voice acting job.

What really was frustrating was that the whole prequal cast of all three of the films barely had any charisma. Lucas should have at least let that chat over the teamsters buffet for free.


Though Samuel L Jackson, McGregor, Liam and Ian did damn good jobs despise the writing Lucas spat out and their co-stars. I tip my hat to all of them.

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« Reply #677 on: 12-06-2005 11:49 »

Again, Natalie Portman isn't bad when she has good dialogue.  And with the four you mentioned, Oz, and Lee (who was sadly underplayed), that actually makes most of the major characters fairly charismatic and skilled, except for Christiansen, Morrison (who wasn't really supposed to be charismatic) and the non-Yoda VO guys.
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« Reply #678 on: 12-06-2005 11:56 »

 
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Again, Natalie Portman isn't bad when she has good dialogue.

Case in point:




She was amazing in those movies.
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« Reply #679 on: 12-06-2005 12:04 »

 
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Natalie Portman will do fine. She has that nice quality of actually being able to act.

False.

She sucks in Garden State and she sucks in life. She may have been good for a 12 year old back in the day, but she just isn't a great actress now.

I'll agree that she is better in movies that aren't named Attack of the Clones. Still, it's silly that people act like she's this great actress that is being held back by George Lucas' lousy writing. If Lucas is so terrible, then why are Ewan and Liam and Christopher Lee and the guy who played Palpatine good? Heck, for all the crap he got, Jake Lloyd turned in some better scenes than Portman! The Anakin guy was way better than her, also. I think he gets a bad rap because of those bad romance scenes in Attack of the Clones. I had no problems with his "I'm evil!" scenes, and generally bought his mannerisms as being in line with how Darth Vader acts.

I missed being a part of the swarm of internet reviews back when Revenge of the Sith comes out, and that makes me sad. But for anyone who wonders what I think: yes, it's the best of the prequels, and yes, it's probably the best of all six Star Wars movies, but I will never officially admit it, because nostalgia still makes me love Empire Strikes Back like no other movie.

Anyone who doesn't like Revenge of the Sith, is either A.) not a Star Wars fan, or B.) the most nitpicky nerd I've ever met. I'm not saying it couldn't have been better, but all of the "important" stuff was nailed.

All six movies work well together, believe it or not. I always figured "you know, this is going to be silly. Episode III has CGI up the wang, and fast-paced action sequences. There's no way Episode IV will hold up, visually". And yet, I've watched the original Star Wars right after episode III and after the first minute and a half, I honestly didn't notice any difference. You get too sucked up in the story to really care. Star Wars has always been story over special effects.

Personally, I prefer the old-school models and rubber costumes over the modern-day CGI. The old stuff just felt a little more textured, a little more real. But at the end of the day, it's all just special effects used to tell the story. And I still like the story of Star Wars.
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