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Nixorbo

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« on: 04-19-2005 20:17 »

New Star Wars thread.  Commence your speculations on Episode 3.
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« Reply #1 on: 04-19-2005 21:22 »

I bet Yoda dies.
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« Reply #2 on: 04-19-2005 22:24 »

 
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Originally posted by DrThunder88:
I bet Yoda dies.


I hope that was a joke!
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« Reply #3 on: 04-19-2005 22:46 »
« Last Edit on: 04-20-2005 00:00 »

 Having read the Episode III novilization I have infinite spoiler knowlege. I therefore will not post anything of extreme spoiler value in this thread other than to correct anything so far off base correcting it won't spoil anything, and to say: Anakin becomes Darth Vader, and all the Jedi except for two are wiped out. Also all the younglings(baby jedi)are slaughtered. It's going to be a sweet film!
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« Reply #4 on: 04-19-2005 23:41 »

you know, there could be some really thick people out there who genuinely didn't know that already. More-so the last few things.
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« Reply #5 on: 04-20-2005 00:04 »

What that it's going to be a sweet film? Someone would have to have absolutley no prior knowlege of anything star wars to not know that stuff. And if they know that little about Star Wars, they shouldn't be seeing Episode III.
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« Reply #6 on: 04-20-2005 00:06 »

 
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Originally posted by Harry Sach:
Quick question: Having read the Episode III novilization I have infinite spoiler knowlege. I therefore will not post in this thread other than to say: Anakin becomes Darth Vader, and all the Jedi except for two are wiped out. Also all the younglings(baby jedi)are slaughtered. It's going to be a sweet film!

Agreed, but that wasn't a question.
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« Reply #7 on: 04-20-2005 00:40 »

 
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Anakin becomes Darth Vader, and all the Jedi except for two are wiped out.

HE DOES?!

MY GOD!  ITS ALL SO OBVIOUS NOW!

Uh, not really.  Film should be good in any case, though I'm not expecting it to be completely mind-blowing.  Attack of the Clones was a lot of fun, but we're not going to have anything up to the level of Empire again, plus obviously there aren't going to be too many suprises since we should all know how this one ends by now.

Stoked for the lightsaber duel though.

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« Reply #8 on: 04-20-2005 00:42 »

Mace: KIA by Boba Fett.

It's gonna be sad seeing Sammuel L. go down.
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« Reply #9 on: 04-20-2005 00:56 »

I have a hard time seeing the 10-ish year-old clone of a bounty hunter taking down a freaking Jedi Master.
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« Reply #10 on: 04-20-2005 01:42 »

 
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Mace: NOT by Boba Fett.

It's gonna be sad seeing Sammuel L. go down.

I only wish young master Fett was the one to do it.
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« Reply #11 on: 04-20-2005 02:29 »

 
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 HE DOES?!

MY GOD!  ITS ALL SO OBVIOUS NOW!

Uh, not really.  Film should be good in any case, though I'm not expecting it to be completely mind-blowing.  Attack of the Clones was a lot of fun, but we're not going to have anything up to the level of Empire again, plus obviously there aren't going to be too many suprises since we should all know how this one ends by now.

Stoked for the lightsaber duel though.

Which one? There's going to be like 4 or 5 of them. This movie will be better than Empire!
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« Reply #12 on: 04-20-2005 02:41 »

Well, that's true, there'll be several.  I was referring mainly to the real big one though, Anakin vs. Obi.
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« Reply #13 on: 04-20-2005 02:43 »

Or Yoda vs. Palpatine
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« Reply #14 on: 04-20-2005 02:51 »

 
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I bet Yoda dies.

Reminds me of an article The Onion did about Episode II. The infographic was about predictions for the new movie, and one of them was "Yoda hit by train." The thought of that green toad getting hit by a train going full-speed, flying through the air, and just splattering all over train tracks in a big gooey mess brightens my day.

The other prediction I remember that is apropo: "More of that comic masterwork from George Lucas that fans have learned to tolerate."
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« Reply #15 on: 04-20-2005 03:04 »

Heh, I love The Onion.

Though I will say that the humor in the original trilogy was usually good....maybe not so much in Jedi (things often got too silly or referential, like that awful Chewbacca "Tarzan" yell), but in others there's some genuine comic moments that lighten the mood of what are supposed to be fun movies after all.  The problem with the prequels tends to be either that the humor is non-existant (scenes that play completely seriously without any of the humor or fun of the series), or really awful (Jar Jar, essentially).
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« Reply #16 on: 04-20-2005 03:28 »

Hey, so long as we're talking about things the original trilogy did better, how about romantic tension?  Did Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford have better chemistry than Hayden and Natalie Portman?  Were the characters of Han and Leia just more likable than Ani and Padme?  Or is it a simple case of witty banter filled with sexual tension being inherently superior than sappy monologues and crappy pickup lines ("I'd just as soon kiss a Wookie."  "I can arrange that.  You could use a good kiss!" vs. "Are you an angel?" and the sand routine)?
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« Reply #17 on: 04-20-2005 03:56 »

The original, I liked Carrie and Harrison as well.

When Anakin starts whining about sand, I just want to punch him in the face with a pair of Durrasteel boxing gloves. What were the script writers thinking? This guy is suppose to be Darth Vader!

Also, the Jedi can't love thing is crap and refuse to believe it. These guys are Guardians of Peace, Space Age Feudal Knights with weird blood not Monks or Wizards. The Sunriders are an example as well as other EU characters. What are they afraid of anyway? Imagine the pick up lines combined with a Lightsaber.

Also, I think Portman and Hayden are pretty sucky B Grade actors. Unlike, Carrie, Hamil, Ford or Dee they won't be remembered for who they played.


 
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« Reply #18 on: 04-20-2005 06:17 »

 http://www.sky.com/showbiz/article/0,,50001-1178944,00.html

Eye-bleedingly-long film watching aside, the idea of Stormtroopers marching around London and a symphony orchestra that does requests is just way cooler.  :D
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« Reply #19 on: 04-20-2005 07:33 »

Hand me a ticket!

@Nurdy: Weird blood? Don't everybody agree that the m-word is to be shunned? And Hayden is actually not a grade-b actor (as I said in te last one)...
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« Reply #20 on: 04-20-2005 07:55 »

Well I think he's a bad actor. I'm also pretty pissed of him befouling my favourite of the Classics, Return of The Jedi.

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« Reply #21 on: 04-20-2005 08:10 »

The insertion of him into ROTJ was an atrocity. A pure crime against humanity and all that is decent. I don't really know much of your movie preferences, but check him out in Life As A House. Splendid...
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« Reply #22 on: 04-20-2005 08:39 »

Nah, I like my hate as it is.

One of the most obscure Star Wars Classic actors is Billy Dee, AKA Lando. Now that guy is awesome.
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« Reply #23 on: 04-20-2005 09:38 »

Yeah, I got that when you said "Dee" just before...not to mention that he does his own vooice in JKO. Kudos. I always thought that it was weird that they couldn't get Mark Hamill to do Luke in the games. He has done some voicing for some pretty shoddy projects before, so I'd think an SW game would be a welcome change.
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« Reply #24 on: 04-20-2005 11:26 »

What got me is that Mark actually did lend his voice to a couple of LucasArts games - but never the Star Wars ones.

Usless Trivia - the Hoth Base Announcer ("The first transport is away!" etc) is also Mark Hamill

Definitely kudos to Billy Dee Williams though, apparently some people who've seen him at conventions suggest he's less than thrilled to be there, but I still think he's cool  :D

Course, there was an urban legend that it was originally written that the Falcon wouldn't make it out of the Death Star come Endor. They left Han's premonition in, but obviously not the end part.

Hayden's appearance in the Jedi Redux did have a reason - they argued that it was relevant because it was an image of Anakin before he fell to the ways of the Sith - when he was still a Jedi. He wasn't just a Dark Jedi, he became something entirely different, which is why the image of the Jedi version of him would appear - and it would be Hayden.
No I didn't agree with that really either.

As for the love thingy - Han and Leia totally, because it takes a while and they put eachother down several times first. Had it been more a case of
"Are you an Angel?"
"What!?!"
Then perhaps, yes...
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« Reply #25 on: 04-20-2005 11:53 »

It's bullshit... the personality has changed, yes, but the soul is the same, and I'd suppose it's the soul that lives on in the force. I say it's a cheap marketing shot. "See, the movies are connected!"
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« Reply #26 on: 04-20-2005 14:18 »

If all your limbs are amputated, and the the rest of your body burned to a crisp. Do you let your son see you as the creature you've become or the person you were before?
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« Reply #27 on: 04-20-2005 15:04 »

Pffft, ever stop to think that's what Anakin looked like under the suit reformed by the force?

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« Reply #28 on: 04-20-2005 15:07 »

 
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If all your limbs are amputated, and the the rest of your body burned to a crisp. Do you let your son see you as the creature you've become or the person you were before?

Dude, Sach... Luke already saw Anakin unmasked in the hanger bay of the Death Star (2), and I'm fairly sure Luke was also the one to arange the funeral pyre, so he has seen Anakin's scarred visage.

Also, I don't think you choose how your apparition is going to look.
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« Reply #29 on: 04-20-2005 15:28 »

If I were Anakin, I'd come as an adult. Who'd want to be a whiny teenager again?
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« Reply #30 on: 04-20-2005 15:52 »

 
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And Hayden is actually not a grade-b actor (as I said in te last one)...

"I don't like sand..."
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« Reply #31 on: 04-20-2005 16:00 »

It's all about the living force. Anakin lost touch with it when he became Vader. So when he reconnected w/ it who knows. Who are we to question George Lucas? They are HIS movies, he can do what he wants with them. End of story.
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« Reply #32 on: 04-20-2005 16:08 »

"It's corse, and rough and irritating...And it gets everywhere!"
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« Reply #33 on: 04-20-2005 16:11 »

@Nasty: Don't take it out of context. There was loads of shitty lines and bad deliveries in the SW prequels so far. I said to check out his other work. Please don't read posts like they do in the on-topic sections.
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« Reply #34 on: 04-20-2005 16:47 »

 
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 "I don't like sand..."

That bit WAS terrible, but Hayden didn't write it (your follow up was perfect though, as a response to "Who are we to question George Lucas?" ).  As someone else said, check out "Life as a House".

A lot of people in these movies really can act.....provided they have a director who knows how to direct actors well, and Lucas isn't one of those directors.  Not to mention the blue-screen gives them little to work with.
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« Reply #35 on: 04-20-2005 17:58 »

What's up with the Episode III game, is it going to be a kind of Jedi Knight game?
Or like that Phantom Menace game which I never played?
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« Reply #36 on: 04-20-2005 18:01 »

From what I've heard, it's gonna be a hack&slash action RPG. Similar to the 3rd-person mode in "Jedi Outcast" for the PC.

I'm actually looking forward to this game...
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« Reply #37 on: 04-20-2005 19:28 »

Yeah, its a third-person action game, with some RPG-type elements (buying more abilities as you  gain experience and whatnot), and lots of droing destroying.  Could be good, though I'm honestly not expecting too much.

There's some video of it on Gamespot, Ign, etc.
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« Reply #38 on: 04-20-2005 19:32 »

I'm looking forward to KOTOR III, to be honest.
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« Reply #39 on: 04-20-2005 19:42 »

KOTOR III?

Is that gonna be an Xbox 2 title?
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