'Lost'

[Reply #520 on:]

I still don't understand what it's supposed to be though. The debris hits the plane and flys off? It's not debris otherwise it wouldn't fly off. It was just there to make the engine part explode...it didn't have anything to do with making the plane crash I don't think.

[Reply #521 on:]

Read my 2nd post on the last page.

[Reply #522 on:]

Yeah, your explanation makes perfect sense, Faze.

Wink, wink. 

[Reply #523 on:]

*raise middle finger*

Whatever it is it's way cool and I want one as a pet.

"Oh, you want my wallet is it?" *whistles*
"GETTIM SHEEBA!" *monster growly clank explodey noises*
"AAAAAAARRRRGH!"

[Reply #524 on:]

good ep! no? I think it's my favorite this season so far.

also.. Matt Fox= hot!

[Reply #525 on:]

 

Originally posted by Gocad:
 

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Luger=Nazi, Nazi=Evil. Others=Evil, Evil=Nazis.

and they are totally going to kill Aaron, because he's a Jew! Right?

[Reply #526 on:]

Either that, or their Hitler Youth recruitment agents are being forced to drastically lower the age of admission.

That said, they've had a pretty good run of it lately - what with Walt and those two kids from the tail section.

Maybe they're running some sort of adoption cartel, servicing Angelina Jolie's third-world baby fetish..

[Reply #527 on:]

 

Originally posted by VelourFog:
 

Originally posted by DrThunder88:
VF, are you undressing me with your mind?

Do you want me to post some screengrabs?

We both know nobody wants to see that.

You know I was thinking about that particular handgun and why that particular guy would have one.  The model, while iconic, was not the preeminent Nazi sidearm of WWII.  In fact, the Luger P.08 had already lost its spot to the Walther P.38 (adopted in 1938) and was being phased out of service by the time Germany attacked Poland in 1939.  The fact that the P.38 has an exposed barrel makes it look similar to a P.08 only widens the misconception, I'm sure.

But why does Zeke have a Luger?  We know from the Hanso website that Alvar supplied resistance groups with munitions during WWII.  While it's unlikely that guerilla groups would be equipped with better-made, more expensive weapons than their regular opponents, it is entirely possible that Hanso got a hold of some Third Reich-surplus Lugers and then passed them on to the movements.  That last episode sort of ruined my "all guns are from Germany or its neighboring states"-theory.

[Reply #528 on:]

   

Originally posted by DrThunder88:
You know I was thinking about that particular handgun and why that particular guy would have one.[...]
But why does Zeke have a Luger?

Why did Locke carry a Sig? Why did Sawyer pick a 1911? Why did Jack pack a Glock? etc.

Discuss!

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Locke choose a Sig because he's the cool guy, Sawyer picked a 1911 because he thinks he's cool and Jack, well, he's a surgeon. What does he know about guns anyway?   

Also, Zeke had a Luger because these things, as we all know from various reliable sources (read: Hollywood movies and such), are usually carried by bad guys. There, another mystery solved.   

Also, I would like to add that this is all Wooter's fault. He started it.

[Reply #529 on:]

Are you implying the Nazis were bad guys Gocad!?! 

I too would also like to blame Wooter.

Anyway, I would have thought Michael would have taken Vincent with him to look for Walt...

[Reply #530 on:]

I take all blame in stride!

I also enjoy the fact that the island has magical trees that turn any branch into a torch...

[Reply #531 on:]

Bah!  Glocks are the Ak-47s of handguns.

I know that Lugers are frequently assigned to bad guys, and I'm sure that's because of the connection many peple draw between Lugers and the Nazis.  I was just pointing out that such a connection is specious.

I'm also sure that everything means something on the IoM.  That's where the Hanso theory comes from.

[Reply #532 on:]

Anyone else read that Ultimate theory?

Seems solid enough, but there's only one problem I have with it.

[Reply #533 on:]

which is...?

it looks like someone had WAY too much time on their hands.

[Reply #534 on:]

That is one kick-ass theory! Seems sensible enough to actually be true.

[Reply #535 on:]

Telekinetic, telepathic scientists..? I hope not. It's probably sacrilege on this board, but such a thing is too sci-fi/fantasy for my liking.

I do think the button and the 108 minutes thing has something to do with a satellite of some description though.

Other than the suspended animation bit and said über-scientists, I don't mind it as theory.

[Reply #536 on:]

Are the numbers entered on the computer the same as Hurley's cursed numbers?

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sure. these numbers are everywhere.

even in this post. see:

4 8 15 16 23 42

[Reply #538 on:]

Cursed!  Cursed!

I agree with Ben.  Telepathy and telekenesis are a little much for me to believe. 

[Reply #539 on:]

That was the problem I had, it's a great theory... if you believe in collective consciousnesses.

[Cubert] Which I so don't!

[Reply #540 on:]

Well, there have been many inferences that Walt is "special", ie "telepathetic," in the series. There's the scene where he wants Brian to look at him, and suddenly a rare bird Walt was reading about smashed into the window. There's the polar bear appearing after Walt reads Hurley's comic with the polar bear. There's the constant references to him being "special," both by Locke and the Others. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the lynchpin that holds a lot of the plot together.

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Originally posted by Ben:

I do think the button and the 108 minutes thing has something to do with a satellite of some description though.

there was that link i posted a while back, which was about a satelite that revolved the earth every 108 minutes, and was in range for about 5 to beam (or recieve) info. The Satelite tracked swans... no joke.

[Reply #542 on:]

Gocad (and anyone else): Yeah, but I remember when someone was entering the numbers on the computer, Hurley was going to stop them, but then DID NOT stop them, because the next number entered was not part of his cursed numbers.

[Reply #543 on:]

No, Hurley said he knew the numbers, then started saying fake ones.  Someone said hes lying, and he said the real ones

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Originally posted by evan:
Well, there have been many inferences that Walt is "special", ie "telepathetic," in the series.

I thought that was their way of saying he's black.

My theory, as I was explaining to evan while I was supposed to be working, is that there's an all-inclusive tropical resort on the other side of the island. It's like when you go to Jamaica and the resort is all nice and fancy, but the "real" parts of town are poor and dirty and scary as hell and you get kidnapped and sold into sexual slavery like that Natalie Holloway girl. . . "Sea Captain" is the tropical resort version of a carny/bouncer. The "others" attacked the tailes so much more than the "Jackies" because the tail end crashed much closer to the resort grounds. The others think the castaways are trying to sneak into the resort to enjoy all the free (non motorized) water sports and strawberry coladas they can handle. The polar bear escaped from the resort's exotic animal show (a rip off of sigfried and roy, if you ask me) and the "boar" was supposed to be part of the luau and pig roast. All those bunkers and hatches are just like the underground parts of Disney - they allow the costumed characters to get around the island without guests seeing.

Pretty damn good theory, huh?

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--somewhere in ABC HQ----

Assistant: (running into the board room, carrying an armload of print-outs) "Sir, sir...this woman found us out!"
J.J. Abrams, the creator of Lost: "Dammit, Williams! The surprise is ruined. We might as well shut down production."
Assistant: "Right away, boss."

[Reply #546 on:]

That's why you get paid the big bucks to decode cryptic television serials.  So what is the smoke monster?  Space Mountain or something?

Actually, I imagine Abrams' response would be something like this...

Abrams: Bring me the alternate explaition contingency list!

Alternate Explanation Contingency List

• Sinister island resort
  
• Island controlled by psychic brain-trust
• A Matrix-like, self-contained, human preservation system
• Vincent=Evil overlord
• Purgatory or something
• Dream sequence[/small]

[Reply #547 on:]

I vote "Vincent=Evil overlord", I Never trusted that dog!

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Consider this another vote for the "Vincent=evil overlord" theory.

Why else would he hang around with Ana-Lucia if he's not evil, eh?

[Reply #550 on:]

He like the bad girls?

[Reply #551 on:]

I'm not an expert on this show, last week's ep being the first one I wached all the way through in a while, but I have a theory about the timer.

It's pretty much identical to the Giant Red Button Of Doom trap of RPG and amateur psychologist fame.  You trap a bunch of people in a room with a big countdown display and a big red button.  Whenever they press the big red button, the timer resets.  Whenever the timer runs out - and with many subjects, it never does, since no one's dumb enough to let a countdown run to zero - the room's exit opens, and the subjects are free to go.

This is just a rather sick way of making people work against themselves.  I'll bet that when the island's counter runs down, it broadcasts some kind of SOS signal, and everyone is saved.

Just a theory.

[Reply #552 on:]

Yeah, the timer isn't controling anything but the people, I doubt anything bad will happen if it runs out except maybe launch a nuke.

[Reply #553 on:]

 

Originally posted by Nerd-o-rama:
I'm not an expert on this show, last week's ep being the first one I wached all the way through in a while, but I have a theory about the timer.

It's pretty much identical to the Giant Red Button Of Doom trap of RPG and amateur psychologist fame.  You trap a bunch of people in a room with a big countdown display and a big red button.  Whenever they press the big red button, the timer resets.  Whenever the timer runs out - and with many subjects, it never does, since no one's dumb enough to let a countdown run to zero - the room's exit opens, and the subjects are free to go.

This is just a rather sick way of making people work against themselves.  I'll bet that when the island's counter runs down, it broadcasts some kind of SOS signal, and everyone is saved.

Just a theory.

Yeah, but early in the second season, after they've broken into the hatch, Jack allows the timer to go off without reseting it. So either rescue is coming soon or the effects of the timer aren't noticable to the castaways.

[Reply #554 on:]

Wha? Do you mean when it got just to zero as Locke pressed execute, but then it went flickaflickaflicka?

[Reply #555 on:]

I don't think that counts as letting it completley run out.

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evan: Jack came very close to letting the timer run out, but IT DID NOT run out. It did come very close to doing so though.

[Reply #557 on:]

Yes, a double-post, but it is needed to update this thread.

-Overall, a good episode. I think this was the first time we got to go into Charlie's early life, and how he came to be. I liked the touch when he was with the baby in the water, and told everyone that he "couldn't be judged". (Or something like that.)

-On another note, since ABC aired a promo that said "Lost" is on 'Wednesdays', instead of 'next Wednesday', I assume there is yet another rerun. Anyone know why?

[Reply #558 on:]

The smoke monster ate the real episode.

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I'm getting sick of Charlie and his druggie-ass bastard antics.  I'm equally sick of Liam's self-serving, druggie antics.  Quite frankly, Charlie's losing his entertainment value.

Hurley and Libby?  Ha!  I deride the ludicrous premise.  She's totally one of his old shrinks.

Actually, I didn't like this episode very much at all.  It was like "Raised by Another" rehashed.

Does anyone know why Locke locked the statuettes in the vault rather than destroy the drugs?  Are we to infer that he likes the occasional ride on the poppy pony?  Is it some sort of wierd IoM sacrificial ritual?  Is he just putting them there until he gets around to throwing them in a volcano or something?  My VCR stopped recording just after the end of the episode, so I didn't see the previews.

Hey!  When I rewound the tape, I went to far and landed in the middle of the last episode.  I was at the point where Zeke is talking to the hunting party.  When he summons the captive Kate, I realize what he said: "Bring 'er out, Alex!"  Is it possible that this is Danielle's Alex?  How many Alexes could there be on the IoM?

Quite frankly, I now think Danielle is tied into the Others.  After all, who else had a gun on the IoM?  Danielle.  Out of all the attacks on the survivors, which one has involved a gun?  Danielle's attack on Hurley and Charley.

And does anyone find it strange that Zeke didn't look like he recognized Ethan the first time Jack brought him up?  Highly suspicious, if you ask me.

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Dr. T, I don't think there's any explanation for Locke putting the heroin statues in the vault.  I'd say that he assumes that they're part of the island's "big plan" and doesn't want to destroy them. 

Either that or he wants to frame Charlie - thereby driving Claire into his open arms.  (Ick, I usually don't mind a little age difference, but Locke/Claire is pushing it...)

I thought the whole Hurley has a crush thing was cute...although I thought Libby's behavior was strange. "Turn around so I can change into this sexy little number."  Odd.