'Lost'

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Yeah DT88, seriously, i'd say their like rats at the most.

EDIT: Woah 3rd TOTPD in about 10 minutes. go me!

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Originally posted by VelourFog:
 

Originally posted by DrThunder88:
Of course, if they stuck with the whole "people who don't speak English don't understand English" thing they established with Jin, the whole episode would look something like this.

are you saying Koreans are like dogs?

You are what you eat.

I mean...something much less horrible.

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Does anyone else listen to the Lost podcasts, or do I win the award for biggest dork?

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What the hell?  Are they free?  Do they require a high-speed connection?

And in answer to your questions: "No." and "Never!  That award is as good as mine!"

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Can somebody tell me what was the song that was playing in the hatch in "Man Of Science, Man Of Faith"? (The first ep of Season 2)

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'Make your own kind of music' by Mama Cass Elliot

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Originally posted by DrThunder88:
What the hell?  Are they free?  Do they require a high-speed connection?

You don't have a high speed connection? *gasp*
You don't need a high speed connection, but it will probably just be more of a pain to wait for them to download on dial up.

They are free, yes. Their is the Official one, that you can get from iTunes, or directly from the ABC website: http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/podcasts/102005.html

There are also a lot of fan-made Lost-related podcasts, but I haven't listened to any of them so far.

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Blast.  I only got halfway through a download before my connection crapped out.  Lousy NetZero...terminating my connection due to inactivity.

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Ok, this is probably going to sound stupid, but what is a podcast?

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It's an iPod thing.  Someone assembles a series of big audio files that can be downloaded through iTunes and listened to like a recurring, broadcast radio show.  It's sort of like an audio blog.

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It's streaming audio with a new, fancy name.

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And it makes iPod owners think they're special. 
(They are, but a different kind of special)

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LOL, ok thanks.

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I dont know about the rest of you, but since the 6 week break....lost has sucked.  Its like I just dont care anymore, and this episode didnt change anything :/

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AMEH! don't say that!!! it'll get great again, IT WILL!!!

i haven't seen tonights episode, so shhh

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What do you mean nothing's changed?

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Sawyer's got the guns.  He's effectively back in the same position he was in in the beginning: he's got all the stuff and everybody hates him.

Actually, I saw the con coming on.  I didn't know who was conning whom, but I knew somebody wanted those guns out in the open.  I was fooled into thinking Sawyer had changed, so I guessed it was the Others who attacked Sun.  Not simply to harass the survivors, but to start the chain of events that would lead to them getting the guns.

Then Vincent showed up, and I thought, "Ah ha!  Evil Vincent theory: 1, Other theories: much much more."  Then Sun started speaking to him in Korean, and I thought: "You fool, he only speaks English."

Can someone explain what Sawyer was doing in the house after he told Cassie he was conning her?  What was the bag of money under the table?  Why was he sitting in an empty car?  Why was he counting so many seconds?  Wasn't that waitress Aunt Hilda from "Sabrina the Teenage Witch"?

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Go little torrent... go!

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Originally posted by DrThunder88:
What do you mean nothing's changed?

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Then Vincent showed up, and I thought, "Ah ha!  Evil Vincent theory: 1, Other theories: much much more."  Then Sun started speaking to him in Korean, and I thought: "You fool, he only speaks English."

     

I don't see the hatred going on about the last few episodes. IMO, the show has always been more about the characterisations than the mystery island. Once all the mysteries have been uncovered, there really isn't much more to talk about, is there? If we want the show to last for more than two seasons, we should be happy that they're building a slow suspense.

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I admit. I'm still a little in the dark about where Sawyer found the guns at. Since he can't track worth a damn and there's no way he could have snuck up on Locke, that's kinda a big plot hole. However, I do enjoy the chaos that Sawyer being the armory will bring. The cast-aways have been much too friendly with each other for too long. With this and Charlie's potential crack-up, I think the show is heading in the right direction.

The best way for the Others to beat the Survivors (if indeed there are fewer Others than Survivors) is to split their numbers. A renegade camp lead by Sawyer and Charlie sabotaging Jack and Locke will add some great interest once/if the Others are defeated. Although Locke's potential evilness didn't show up in this episode, I still think it's there.

As for the flashbacks, I've found the last two much more interesting than some of the previous flashbacks this season. I like Charlie, and his flashbacks answered the question of "why does he have to feel responsible for Aaron?". Sawyer is and will be a bad person. As funny as he is interacting with Kate and Jack, he really belongs as the rebel. I only wonder who else will defect to Team Evil. Possibly Jin?

Although I think this show has to do what "24" learned two years ago. Make the show start in January then run it non-stop until May. All these weeks-off are really killing the momentum of the show.

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Score: 12/10.

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-An excellent episode. I had a feeling this episode would be about Sawyer, and I was right. Anyway, enough about me being right.

-As soon as Sawyer mentioned the "long con", I knew he was going to con the woman. Hell, even at the beginning (2nd flashback) I had a feeling he was up to something. What I didn't see was him pulling a "double con" on the woman. I had a feeling I should have seen this coming, but I didn't. Oh well. Oh yeah, and same question someone else had. Why was Sawyer counting? Was it to make sure the woman was gone? And did he also con the guy he was talking with in the cafe?

-I never thought Charlie was going to be responsible for anything. I mean, when I saw Sawyer talking to him in the beach, I had a feeling something was up (Charlie wanting revenge against Locke), but as soon as that scene stopped, I forgot about poor old Charlie.

-And why does Sawyer want everyone to hate him? And why would he agree to an idea like the one he did? I do have answers to my questions, but I can't put them into words right now.

-And the timer reached 0! Holy shit, what will happen? And Sayid went back to his torturing ways too!

-Last point. I loved the expressions on Locke's face when Sawyer was talking to him in the hatch, and in the previews.

-On a final note, anyone think that if Sawyer was tortured, he would give up the location of the guns? I actually thought he was with The Others, but that theory got blown away.

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He said he wouldn't, even if he was.

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Can someone tell me about the latest episode in America? We're up to the beginning of season 2 in Australia and I really want to spoil it for everyone of my mates.

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Sawyer was cool before, he's even cooler now he has guns. That'll put Jack and his commie, stash-stealing possie back in their place.

 

Wasn't that waitress Aunt Hilda from "Sabrina the Teenage Witch"?

You didn't watch 'What Kate did'..?

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Mommy Hilda.

Now, that were an ok episode, because it just reaffirmed what we already know, Sawyer's bad and he knows it, and Charlie has turned to The Dark Side.

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I honestly thought Ana Lucia whomped Sun to get everyone horny about fightin', BAM! I got owned by the Lost writers! Ho ho, you bastards!
Anyway, Sawyer's gotta sleep sometime, and he can be tricked into revealing where ze guns are, or Jack and Locke and maybe Sayid can have a "hang him by his scrotum" and not really want the guns anymore anyway (don't they have a truce with The Others now anyway?)

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Originally posted by Ben:
You didn't watch 'What Kate did'..?

I must have missed that.  That's what happens when you work and watch TV at the same time.  In time I'm sure I'll regret tending to police business instead of watching Lost.

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At any rate, Sawyer could easily become the first casualty of IoM justice.  I don't forsee the guns being too hard to find.  As clever as he is, he didn't have too much time to find the guns, move them somewhere else, hide them, and return in time to taunt the rest of the survivors.  In a worst case scenario, he scatter hoarded them like a squirrel instead of larder hoarding like he did with the rest of his stuff.  This would make them most difficult to find and run the risk of the buried guns sprouting into gun trees.

My guess is he didn't move the guns too far from a well-known location.  Perhaps they're even still in the hatch.  After all, Sawyer says a magician never reveals his secrets, but the secret of all magicians is that the "magic" is illusion and that which has "disappeared" is closer than the magician would have you believe.

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perhaps he got charlie to follow Locke.. planning it ahead somehow? It's the only way I could think of, unless he just was lucky and found them.

anyway.. good ep..

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for a while i thought the woman was conning him...and also, i'm still a bit confused, but i think he was counting to make sure she got away before she could see him go back into the house and take her money.. if that makes any sense.

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He was trying to get in a quick 5 second nap and he was counting sheep... 

I thought Charlie was his apprentice too, but the problem with that is, was Locke in such a worried state, or in such a rush, that he didn't notice Charlie following him?

Hurleys, "Or any time... just kidding dude", comment set off alarm bells in my head for some reason, as far as the overall theories of the show go.

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Originally posted by H. G. Blob:
Can someone tell me about the latest episode in America? We're up to the beginning of season 2 in Australia and I really want to spoil it for everyone of my mates.

Tell them eko's brother dies. or that charlies piano gets sold...or something that happens in episode 14 that wouldn't make sence to you...

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Originally posted by chay's head:
 Tell them eko's brother dies. or that charlies piano gets sold...or something that happens in episode 14 that wouldn't make sence to you...

Can someone tell me what actually happens. The latest episode that just aired had them blowing the hatch and some guy telling Loche to type numbers into the computer before something happened.

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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
And it makes iPod owners think they're special.   
(They are, but a different kind of special)

you can listen to them on any mp3 player, portible or not. you can burn them onto CDs even, for those of you still living in the 1990s.

Anyway, I haven't read the comments, but I want to point out that I totally called the red herring. I was all, "There's no way that's who kidnapped Sun, this damn show never gives you answers, let alone answers in the first 15 minutes"

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Oh please.  That "any time" comment was the biggest, reddest herring of them all.  Hurley is just there to provide pop culture references to the show from within the show.

EDIT - This post is actually in response to Faze's.  VF's and my own use of "red herring" is purely coincidental.

EDIT EDIT - Or is it?

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soulmates!

Sawyer went back into the house to get the bag of real money. I assume the bag he gave the woman, Cas, was fake, like the money in the briefcase. He was counting how long he should wait until he went back in, safe knowing she was well on her way and wouldn't see him doubling back. I wonder though, if he really did love her and that's why he's so intent on being evil. Maybe he is punishing himself for being such a bastard to a woman that he loved, much like Locke was a bastard to that woman that wanted him to stop stalking his dad. Seems like everyone on this damn island has some sort of addiction in their past that they are still dealing with. I guess I will never be sure about Sawyer's motivations, since it's hard to trust an evil conman.

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Nice to know my soul is capable of getting action.

I don't know about the addiction or compulsion theory, but I am thinking about Locke's character more now.  My prediciton is that whatever forces put him in that chair also took Helen from him.  That was the name of his phone-a-whore too, wasn't it?

Or OR what if his paralysis was psychosomatic?  Maybe because he was emotionally crippled, his mind forced his body to believe it was physically crippled.  Or OR OR what if he has Munchausen's and was acting crippled to garner sympathy?  Sympathy, perhaps, from an estranged love interest.  Now that'd be twisty!

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Didn't he work in a box factory? The most deadly occupation in the world?

Come on, how many people do you know work in a box factory?!

None?
See? PURE DEADLINESS!!

VF: Maybe he didn't want "one in his ear" like his con-partner said...
One what, he didn't say, I hope he meant bullet... but Sawyer WAS pretty freaked out, it could be anything... 
(ewww, Faze, you're gross)

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Indeed. *shivers*

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Ok, what I got was, Charlie attacked Sun, and tracked Locke. And Locke was in such a rush to hide the guns before Jack got there, he didn't realize that Evil Charlie was right behind him. Also, Sawyer was counting so he could wait an appropriate amount of time before going back in the house. That was Aunt Hilda from Sabrina in the Cafe, and also Kate's mom. (or stepmom, I don't know) And Sawyer is just a mean son of a bitch, for whatever reason. Anyone who stated this, congradulations, there's a nice gift bag waiting for you by the door.

I can't wait to see what happens next. I don't care what anyone says. This is still a great show.

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I heard the time theory too. But there was a lot of evidence in this weeks episode that proves that they are in the current year. Although I forgot what that is. Excuse me, I'm going to watch the episode again.

My mom says she didn't do drugs while pregnant with me, but I don't believe her.

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Originally posted by Roy Bluth:
 Anyone who stated this, congradulations, there's a nice gift bag waiting for you by the door.

Is it on fire?  I'm not falling for that one again.

 

Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
Come on, how many people do you know work in a box factory?!

Hurley's box factory no less.

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Originally posted by DrThunder88:
Nice to know my soul is capable of getting action.

I don't know about the addiction or compulsion theory, but I am thinking about Locke's character more now.  My prediciton is that whatever forces put him in that chair also took Helen from him.  That was the name of his phone-a-whore too, wasn't it?

Or OR what if his paralysis was psychosomatic?  Maybe because he was emotionally crippled, his mind forced his body to believe it was physically crippled.  Or OR OR what if he has Munchausen's and was acting crippled to garner sympathy?  Sympathy, perhaps, from an estranged love interest.  Now that'd be twisty!

How did Helen leave him? Did she die? I forgot.

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VERY good episode, Phoey to you amy. Also, the jazz music they picked up? i think that supports the "There is a resort on the other side of the island" theory.

i still [heart] all of the character each in a different way. Hurley especially.

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Originally posted by chay's head:
VERY good episode, Phoey to you amy. Also, the jazz music they picked up? i think that supports the "There is a resort on the other side of the island" theory.

Personally I'm more in favor of the bumped through time radiowave theory.

After all, Glenn Miller sounds so WWII-ish. 

This ep was way better than the previous one. I just hope they will come up with some new episodes every week without any reruns in between.

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Originally posted by DrThunder88:
 Hurley's box factory no less.

Lost Flashback reference #908 not found!

Really, was that one of the things he bought with his bajillions?
Awesome.

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It was implied in the first seasn that the box factory Hurley's accountant bought for him (in Hurley's flashback episode) is indeed where Locke works. Everybody's gotta have boxes.

On to the topic of Helen. It's been some time since I've seen that episode, but I believe Helen "left" Locke because she didn't think it was right to have a relationship with one of her (former) clients. She was coming to him as a friend, but Locke wanted more. She wanted him to get over his anger with his father and move on to a new life. Locke couldn't. When Locke invited her to the walkabout in Australia, she eventually had to tell him that she doesn't date "clients."

• In "Orientation," Helen is played by Katey Segal, whom we all should be familiar with. However, "Walkabout," in the first season, the voice on the other end of the phone sounds quite different. Perhaps they changed Helen's role in Locke's life?