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Pikka Bird

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« Reply #80 on: 12-15-2003 19:14 »
« Last Edit on: 12-15-2003 19:14 »

^^Good episodes, yes. Especially "It is not uncharted, you just lost the chart!". A little unexpected out-in-the-open jabs at Zapp.
For me, the Amy/Kif thingy is just fine- but if there were some minor changes to the overall plot of the entire series, they COULD have stretched Fry's relationship with Amy for at least a handful of episodes. Maybe with a an episode or two as a pause after PYHOMS.  But Amy ending up with Kif is good, iamkifkroker has laid it all out.. We can only hope that the good girls (and Leela is at fault here as well - Mayor's aid my a**) will stop falling for mere buff and dig deeper. And Kif/Amy is some sort of light in the dark.

WoooHoooo!! *TOTPD* Do the robot, babyyy!!
David A

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« Reply #81 on: 12-15-2003 20:25 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
Kif is still slightly pathetic, resentful of Zapp, shy and lack confidence.

Meh.  I liked Kif better in the early episodes, when he was more of a sarcastic smartass.

 
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Originally posted by Tikka Bird:
We can only hope that the good girls (and Leela is at fault here as well - Mayor's aid my a**) will stop falling for mere buff and dig deeper. And Kif/Amy is some sort of light in the dark.

It just goes to show you, despite what one might assume, Amy is actually less superficial than Leela is.

And now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go put on my ring of fire resistance, before I get flamed for that last remark.   tongue

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
iamkiffkroker

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« Reply #82 on: 12-16-2003 00:15 »
« Last Edit on: 12-16-2003 00:15 »

Horay! Someone finally agrees with me!! Thank you David A., Pikka, and Teral.  Recently since using this cream I found in the back of my medicine cabninet on my sore arm I've had extra cold breath. Perhaps it will come in handy against said flames.  big grin
David A

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« Reply #83 on: 12-16-2003 00:34 »

Oh, good.  I'm glad that we agree.   big grin

Wait, what were we agreeing about?   confused

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
Rhodan

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« Reply #84 on: 12-17-2003 11:17 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
What jokes was based on Amy being stupid?

Nothing really changed about the characters, except they now are in love.

Amy is still clumsy, rich, a bit less spoiled (hey, she's maturing), friendly and funloving.

Kif is still slightly pathetic (yes, I freely admit they overdid it in "300 Big Boyes" ), resentful of Zapp, shy and lack confidence.

Persoanlly I thought "Amazon Women In The Mood", "Where The Buggalo Roam" and "Kif Gets Knocked Up A Notch" where hillarious.

I don't see what you mean by their characters were changed. Development equals change over time.

Stupid Amy- her wind bike ride in "300 big boys"
I admit AWINM and also WTBR (altough it was weaker), KGKUAN, only trough my corpse.
And, as I said, I donīt see any development. Altough they act different they are sill 1-2 dimensional.   
Teral

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« Reply #85 on: 12-17-2003 14:13 »

 
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Originally posted by Rhodan:
 Stupid Amy- her wind bike ride in "300 big boys"

That's one joke, hardly basis for drawing broad conclusions.
 
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I admit AWINM and also WTBR (altough it was weaker), KGKUAN, only trough my corpse.
That can be arranged.  wink
 
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And, as I said, I donīt see any development. Altough they act different they are sill 1-2 dimensional.   

Fair enough. This is a subjective matter, so you have your opinion, I have mine.
Rhodan

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« Reply #86 on: 12-22-2003 17:13 »

Oh yes, there is no reason for fight.
Maybe just one more thought about it. Kif/Amy relationship for me didnīt inegrate in the series well also because it actually never maturate, there was no real crisis - I know there was sort of in KGKUAN but that was very predictable situation. Much, much better would be for example if Kif was in flirt with girl from his race, which of course would create problems with Amy.   
iamkiffkroker

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« Reply #87 on: 12-23-2003 02:56 »

Idk personally I think that's much more predictable than a story about a male being impregnated by a friend and the woman he loves not being able to handle the responsibility of motherhood.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #88 on: 12-23-2003 08:51 »

Personally, I would've liked Kif to have been impregnated by Zapp, since that story would've had a lot more balls than the actual KGKUAN. But meh, you know how the writers aren't always too keen on a challenge (see the commentary for Leela's Homeworld).  hmpf
getak2003

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« Reply #89 on: 12-27-2003 00:24 »

I'm glad somebody here finally sees things the way i do.

I hated this relationship, the only time it was kinda cool was where it was at the end of the titanic episode as nothing more than a throwaway gag.

Amy is a hot, rich, and asian girl. she deserves ALOT more than a squishy green guy with no backbone (LITERALLY!!!)

She seems more the type for somebody who is very strong, but with a pure heart to where he would never actually use that strength to hurt somebody unless necessary, dare i call it honour? i guess if honour is almost dead now, it's certainly dead 1000 years from now.

I liked fry/amy, they seemed really good together. they both were kinda dumb, liked to do 'it', enjoyed juggling, and making out in the broom closet.

now, you all seem to have somewhat of a notion that this is just like white and black people being together. THAT is most definatly NOT wrong, it was frowned upon a few years back, but now is a totally ok thing.

HOWEVER, mother nature is cruel and unforgiving mistress. Her laws are indeed set in stone, a human and alien DNA just don't splice. a horse and donkey are a totally different thing! horse and donky are still the same in alot of ways, four legs, furry, same basic structure, same family i guess.

but kif is green, has no bones, reproduces without sex, he belongs in the lizard catagory. he even sticks to ceilings like a gekko! (maybe he can save me 15%), amy is human, has bones, white asian colored skin, and is not cold blooded, unlike lizard boy.

inter-racial works, inter-spicies does not.

I am just glad that this day, somebody agrees with what i had said sooo long ago many times. back then it seemed like i was the only one.
iamkiffkroker

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« Reply #90 on: 12-27-2003 02:50 »

yes now it seems that us poor amy/kiff shippers are in the minority
David A

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« Reply #91 on: 12-27-2003 02:56 »

Meh.  Try being an Amy/Fry shipper sometime.
winna

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« Reply #92 on: 12-27-2003 04:23 »

I like Amy and Kif better as separate entities than being a couple...  I think Kif's character got particularly weak after being included with amy...  and technically we could say they got together in A Flight to Remember... right? ~_o
MalfuncionEddie

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« Reply #93 on: 12-27-2003 07:11 »

...yes... Amy and Fry was pure sex only Kif and Amy is talk and gags where ever the writers can put them like the episode "where the buggalo roam"
Teral

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« Reply #94 on: 12-27-2003 07:16 »

 
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Originally posted by getak2003:
I'm glad somebody here finally sees things the way i do.

I hated this relationship, the only time it was kinda cool was where it was at the end of the titanic episode as nothing more than a throwaway gag.

Amy is a hot, rich, and asian girl. she deserves ALOT more than a squishy green guy with no backbone (LITERALLY!!!)

Love is a funny thing, the heart never listens to the brain. I could argue that Leela deserves better than Fry, but even I can see Fry is perfect for her.
 
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She seems more the type for somebody who is very strong, but with a pure heart to where he would never actually use that strength to hurt somebody unless necessary, dare i call it honour? i guess if honour is almost dead now, it's certainly dead 1000 years from now.

Pure heart? Never hurt someone unless in self defence? Sounds like Kif to me. And if you actually want her to be with someone with a bit of brain too, Kif's the man.
 
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I liked fry/amy, they seemed really good together. they both were kinda dumb, liked to do 'it', enjoyed juggling, and making out in the broom closet.

now, you all seem to have somewhat of a notion that this is just like white and black people being together. THAT is most definatly NOT wrong, it was frowned upon a few years back, but now is a totally ok thing.

HOWEVER, mother nature is cruel and unforgiving mistress. Her laws are indeed set in stone, a human and alien DNA just don't splice. a horse and donkey are a totally different thing! horse and donky are still the same in alot of ways, four legs, furry, same basic structure, same family i guess.

but kif is green, has no bones, reproduces without sex, he belongs in the lizard catagory. he even sticks to ceilings like a gekko! (maybe he can save me 15%), amy is human, has bones, white asian colored skin, and is not cold blooded, unlike lizard boy.

inter-racial works, inter-spicies does not.

Except Leela (a mutated human, but a human none the less) and Kif were able to breed perfectly fine. Doesn't sound like Amy should have any problems then, considering she's his smizmar. Kif's green and Amy white [?], skincolor have no relevance. Way of reproducing is different, no problem, as long as one of the ways work. Kif's a lizzard? Judging from the birthing scene his closer to mammals than lizzards, afterall he give birth to living offspring, not eggs.
 
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I am just glad that this day, somebody agrees with what i had said sooo long ago many times. back then it seemed like i was the only one.

Back then you were posting stuff like: "Bam! I just notched my disliking for this show up another notch", doesn't encourage debate, since you obviously hated the show.
MalfuncionEddie

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« Reply #95 on: 12-27-2003 07:20 »

hm...
Ozor Mox

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« Reply #96 on: 12-27-2003 13:00 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
Meh.  Try being an Amy/Fry shipper sometime.

Yeah, half an episode, great isn't it?
getak2003

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« Reply #97 on: 12-27-2003 21:51 »

he is an alien, we can't expect it to be exactly like how reptiles here actually reproduce.

there is a certain spicies of frog that carries it's young in a pouch tpye thing attached to it's back, and they don't leave it until the eggs hatch and the tadpolls swim out.

kif seems alot like this frog, his young being like tadpoles and all...what was it? 20 years before they get legs or something?

frogs are reptiles too, reptiles are not just lizzards and gekkos
Teral

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« Reply #98 on: 12-27-2003 22:04 »
« Last Edit on: 12-27-2003 22:04 »

Then there's president Glab (who's obviously of Kif's race) and the Grand Midwife, who both have breasts, a distinct characteristic of mammals. Presumably the females of the race nourish the young once they crawl back on land as children.

Another characteristic of reptiles Kif seem to lack is being coldblooded. His energetic actions in wars, plus his ability to remain unaffected by the temperature of his surroundings lead me to believe he is in fact warmblooded.
David A

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« Reply #99 on: 12-27-2003 23:10 »

 
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Originally posted by getak2003:
frogs are reptiles too, reptiles are not just lizzards and gekkos

 no no  Frogs are amphibians, not reptiles.   roll eyes
Y_L_B

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« Reply #100 on: 01-12-2004 20:05 »
« Last Edit on: 01-12-2004 20:05 »

 
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Originally posted by MrB:
Oh, it's no big deal.  Kif may not be good looking, or have a demanding personality.  But Amy knows that Kif would do anything for her.  And sometimes opposites attract, you just never know.
No one here seems to have any problems with Lucy Liu dating Bender!

Preach, Bruhda!

j/k, but you're absolutely right!

I think it's sweet how they really do love each other.

Mom: Who smells like horking whale pies?!?



Amy: I do! Kiss me, Kif!

I'm literally angry with rage!
David A

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« Reply #101 on: 01-13-2004 02:45 »

 
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Originally posted by Y_L_B:
Mom: Who smells like horking whale pies?!?

 no no  It's "Who smells like freaking porpoise hork?"

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
Y_L_B

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« Reply #102 on: 01-13-2004 15:29 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
   no no  It's "Who smells like freaking porpoise hork?"


Oh. Sorry, I said that from memory.

  big grin
Ozor Mox

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« Reply #103 on: 01-13-2004 15:46 »

What the hell is a porpoise?
What the hell is a hork?

Forgive me if I'm being stupider than the offspring of a village idiot and a TV weathergirl...
Teral

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« Reply #104 on: 01-13-2004 16:09 »

A porpoise is a whale species. According to the Urban Dictionary hork means to vomit. Basically Mom asked what smelled like whale barf.
squidORlobster

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« Reply #105 on: 01-13-2004 16:35 »

I thought a porpoise was a type of hedgehog... don't you just love the way Amy says "I do! Kiss me Kiff!" Such enthusiasm... feel the love...
Y_L_B

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« Reply #106 on: 01-14-2004 16:23 »
« Last Edit on: 01-17-2004 00:00 »

Oh, darn! I could'a sworn I pressed edit! Sorry 'bout that double post, everyone!
Ozor Mox

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« Reply #107 on: 01-20-2004 16:28 »

I like the way Kif repeats what the whale biologist says but slightly different...

"Precious Hamburgers" if I remember correctly.

Like when the native Martians tell him he has to smoke um peace pipe...

Kif: Smokeum?
David A

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« Reply #108 on: 01-20-2004 17:27 »

 
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Originally posted by squidORlobster:
I thought a porpoise was a type of hedgehog...

You must be thinking of a porcupine.  Porcupines aren't closely related to hedgehogs, but they resemble them superficially.  A porpoise is similar to a dolphin.

 
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don't you just love the way Amy says "I do! Kiss me Kiff!" Such enthusiasm... feel the love...

Yeah, she's actually happy to smell like whale barf.  It's sweet.

Speak softly. Drive a Sherman tank.
Y_L_B

Professor
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« Reply #109 on: 01-20-2004 19:57 »

 
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Originally posted by Ozor Mox:
"Precious Hamburgers" if I remember correctly.

Precious Ambergris.  smile
Teral

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« Reply #110 on: 01-20-2004 20:40 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
 Yeah, she's actually happy to smell like whale barf.  It's sweet.


She's probably hanging out with Zoidberg a little too much.
Ozor Mox

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« Reply #111 on: 01-21-2004 16:41 »

 
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Originally posted by Y_L_B:
 Precious Ambergris.   smile

I know it was "precious ambergris", but after the whale biologist said it I'm pretty sure Kif said something like "precious hamburgers?"... if this was just how I heard it then it was very funny anyway!   tongue
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #112 on: 01-21-2004 16:44 »

Yeah, he did say "Precious hamburgers." Which prompts the whale biologist to summon the voice of all knowledge* to correct him.

* - Roseanne
John Pannozzi

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« Reply #113 on: 06-04-2004 16:36 »
« Last Edit on: 06-04-2004 16:36 »

I love the Kif-Amy romance BECAUSE it makes no sense. Prior to AFTR, no one (including the show's staff) thought that Amy and Kif would fall in love, but they did. Just like in real life, love is unpredictable. Also, Amy's romance with Kif made her a nice person (much like Leela) instead of just clusmy slut who hated her rich parents.
TheLampIncident

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« Reply #114 on: 06-04-2004 20:08 »

 
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Originally posted by John Pannozzi:
 Prior to AFTR, no one (including the show's staff) thought that Amy and Kif would fall in love, but they.

But they what?

If you want my opinion, it's a perfect match. They gang up together and bore us to death, Kif with his school-girlesque qualities and Amy with her "hooker in a relationship" type qualities(sometimes she seems like Kif's sex whore to me).

David A

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« Reply #115 on: 06-05-2004 05:54 »

 
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
(sometimes she seems like Kif's sex whore to me).

That's odd, considering that, as far as we know, Amy and Kif never had sex.

Also, "sex whore"?  Redundant much?
dimension_8

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« Reply #116 on: 06-05-2004 15:53 »

I always thought Amy asked Kif to do it at the end of AWITM?
David A

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« Reply #117 on: 06-05-2004 16:05 »

 
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Originally posted by dimension_8:
I always thought Amy asked Kif to do it at the end of AWITM?

That was implied, yes; but in "Where the Buggalo Roam" when the ground shakes, Kif asks Amy, "Did we just make love?"  I think that he'd know the difference if they had done it before that.
dimension_8

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« Reply #118 on: 06-05-2004 16:17 »

Meh, I guess so.
Ozor Mox

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« Reply #119 on: 06-05-2004 16:36 »

Also, Kif isn't the same species. Could they even have sex?

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