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Cube_166
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it is sort of different to you and the giant space hamster, at least amy and kif are both humanoid, if not both human.
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #4 on: 08-07-2003 12:15 »
« Last Edit on: 08-07-2003 12:15 »
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Originally posted by Pixilate: I also noticed that in 3ACV01, Kif is saying that he met Amy on the Titanic, yet during the 2ACV series, Amy can be see with other men - noticeably Fry. That's because Kif never called Amy after the the trip on the Titanic. In "Amazon Women In The Mood" we see she gave him her number and told him to call her. Since Kif couldn't muster up the courage to do so, Amy concluded he wasn't interested. When Kif finally admits to her that he's madly in love with her, she falls for him big time too. Originally posted by Evil Fox Exec: I mean, it's not like the two are different races. They're two different species! Inter-species mating and relationships are common in sci-fi shows. There's always some science mumbo-jumbo to explain the species gap. Plus, we've already seen that Kif's race and humans (standard issue and mutants)are compatible. I've always liked the Amy/Kif relationship, and the oppurtunities it meant for developing those two characters. The only objection I have is it sometimes mean the writers make Kif to pathetic, most notably in "300 Big Boys". I liked what they did in "Amazon Women In The Mood" and "Where The Buggalo Roam". "Kif Gets Knocked Up A Notch" falls right in the middle.
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SpaceCase
Liquid Emperor
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Originally posted by Evil Fox Exec: ...the Amy/Kif relationship make no sense? Who says relationships are supposed to make sense?We're talkin' about emotions here. Unlike intellect, emotions aren't necessarily rational; nor follow rules of logic, nor even common sense. Emotions are feelings. Kif's actions have elicited certain feelings from Amy. Where's the sense in that? Simple: There ain't none!For reprints of this tirade, send $4.95 to Farkle Press...
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Evil Fox Exec
Bending Unit
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Originally posted by Teral: Inter-species mating and relationships are common in sci-fi shows. Heh, heh, I didn't know this. I'm no sci-fi fan, so I didn't know that this was fairly common. In Futurama, it just seems really bizarre to me. BTW, Deathofaclassic, I agree with you completely. The Amy/Kif thing is one of the worst, if not the worst, aspect of the show, IMHO. In a Flight to Remember, it was just meant to be a throwaway gag. But unfortunately, it turned into something bigger. The Amy/Kif raltionship is boring, and, as I already mentioned, it makes no sense to me. Kif's only funny when he's being belittled by Zapp.
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Blue Zoidberg
Crustacean
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What I never understood is why Amy's parents dislike Kif so much in Where The Buggalo Roam as it was them who introduced Amy to Kif in A Flight To Remember
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Because in "A Flight To Remember" he was captain of a large ship (all they really looked at), in "Where The Buggalo Roam" he was a squishy alien to skinny to father grandchildren.
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Kitt
Poppler
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I love the Amy/Kif relationship - it's my favourite thing about Futurama.
"This is one of the worse things about the show. One is a hot little Chinese number and the other is an thin, bald green alien. IT COULD NEVER HAPPEN IN REAL LIFE."
It can and does happen in real life - not alien dating, of course, but attractive women choosing a man because of his kind, decent, sensitive personality, rather than based on whether he's 'hot' or not. Amy says in 'Amazon Women in the Mood' that she 'just wishes a decent guy would call me'. Kinda sounds like she's sick of attractive men with nothing below the surface.
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Beamer
DOOP Secretary
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Exactly. Dating people from different races is no longer unnacceptable in most places of the world. Surely, in 1000 years, when humans have explored the whole universe and live everyday lives with aliens - then people dating creatures from different planets would sooner or later become socially acceptable too. Although I personally think Amy & Kif's relationship was just a sneaky little thing the writers did so they had an excuse to keep putting Zapp & Kif in the show.
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deathofaclassic
Delivery Boy
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I love the Amy/Kif relationship - it's my favourite thing about Futurama. "This is one of the worse things about the show. One is a hot little Chinese number and the other is an thin, bald green alien. IT COULD NEVER HAPPEN IN REAL LIFE."
It can and does happen in real life - not alien dating, of course, but attractive women choosing a man because of his kind, decent, sensitive personality, rather than based on whether he's 'hot' or not. Amy says in 'Amazon Women in the Mood' that she 'just wishes a decent guy would call me'. Kinda sounds like she's sick of attractive men with nothing below the surface. _____________________________ _____________________
Listen dear, Not only is Kif a completely different species to Amy (Who'd want to go out wih a PREGNANT MAN for God's sake? Well, apart from Emma Thompson..) but he is also a WIMP and seems to spend half his life being ordered about by that twit Zapp Brannigan. He also lacks any discernable personality, and would be a poor catch even if he was a Russell Crowe look-alike. However, as he is an ugly, spindly green thingie in addition to all that, it is impossible to see what Amy sees in him. Maybe she's spent too much time in space..
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Jamesbondcja
Professor
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Sure the relationship is a little wierd but come on look at the rest of the cast - Futurama is a great show riddeled with total wierdness.
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Killerfox
Professor
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i just think that the Amy/Kif relationship is so cool i really like it, it does make sense to me i mean if a Jew can Marry a German then everything is possible! (just J/K) P.D. @EvilFoxExec: can i see a picture with you and your hampster boyfriend :P
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Evil Fox Exec
Bending Unit
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Lucy Liu dating Bender was just a throwaway gag. The writers didn't exploit it like they did with Amy and Kif. As I mentioned before, the AMy and Kif thing in A Flight to Remember, and maybe to a certain extent Amazon Women in the Mood, was just a throwaway gag. But then it got rediculously exploited. Come to think of it, why would Kif feel the need to date another specie? It's not like he's the only one of his type. I mean, think about it. The head of DOOP as seen in Brannigan, Begin Again is of Kif's specie. It's kinda sick if you ask me, that Kif would feel the need to date a human. Originally posted by Killerfox:P.D. @EvilFoxExec: can i see a picture with you and your hampster boyfriend :P Well, the Giant Space Hamster was obviously a joke on my part. I just used it to show how rediculous the Amy/Kif relationship is . Although I really do have a pet hamster, in case you were wondering. I scanned a picture of me holding him, but it's on another computer. If you really wanna see my cute little pet hammy, I could post it and the internet and send you the link.
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payn
Bending Unit
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Originally posted by Zack Brannigan: I don't know how out-of-character it would be . . . after all, Leela and Kif both are annoyed with and have been humiliated by Zapp Branigan. At least they have something in common. That, and they're relatively un-appreciated in their work. When they hung around together, Leela found his bitching about Zapp to be annoying, rather than something to bond over. Keeping around a reminder of a horrible mistake you'd rather forget is generally not something people do. Think about it this way: If you slept with a horrible girl/guy/hamster, would you want to date their friend, or avoid anyone who ever had anything to do with them? But I meant it was out of character because Leela is quite speciesist--she actually wants to find another one-eyed almost-human like herself--while Amy will sleep with anything on two, zero, or 1-pi*i legs. Amy's attitude seems to be surprisingly common in the future. Of course it's typical in sci-fi for everyone to want human chicks ("Mars needs women" ), but their females seem to want human males as well (remember the decapodian who wanted Fry?). Which is a nice twist. And it goes the other way too: the Amazonians wanted Kif too, not just Amy. Of course everyone in the future is apparently straight (which makes me wonder how aliens with three sexes, or six, or one fit into the whole thing...), but I think that's just because NBC has patented the idea of putting gay characters on network TV.
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Beamer
DOOP Secretary
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I always assumed the tapes in A Fishfull of Dollars were the only surviving tapes from the 20th century, hence why Fry could only afford them when he became a billionaire.
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