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Lost My Phone

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« Reply #80 on: 12-11-2013 02:44 »

I just feel that some people have overreacted big time.

Says the guy who started a thread called "I hate Leela". roll eyes
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« Reply #81 on: 12-11-2013 13:08 »

I understand Jarvio's reasoning, but I still feel the character's strengths outweigh her failings. Plus flawed characters are interesting characters.

I don't really see how Amy could be considered more likeable. Amy is stupid. Stupid people are awful.
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« Reply #82 on: 12-11-2013 13:39 »

Stupid people are awful.

I heartily second that. Stupid people are why we can't have nice things.
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« Reply #83 on: 12-11-2013 14:00 »


Stupid people aren't completely useless because they provide a context for interesting people.

TheMadCapper

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« Reply #84 on: 12-11-2013 14:09 »

I think that people who KNOW better but still do stupid things are worse than those who are genuinely of below-average intelligence.

It's an interesting divide in Amy's character - She's klutzy and gullible and often shallow, but isn't actually supposed to be a stupid person.
stum

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« Reply #85 on: 12-11-2013 14:20 »

Says the guy who started a thread called "I hate Leela". roll eyes

You've taken this too far, LMP! no no
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« Reply #86 on: 12-11-2013 15:15 »

I think that people who KNOW better but still do stupid things are worse than those who are genuinely of below-average intelligence.

Someone born in this era of information accessibility has no excuse to be uninformed, and education stimulates the mind to develop other areas of intelligence. So in the absence of an actual mental impairment, there is no excuse for being stupid. It is a result of what must almost be a deliberate effort to avoid learning.

Stupid people are a burden on our society and the time has come for us to do... what we know must be done.


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She's klutzy and gullible and often shallow, but isn't actually supposed to be a stupid person.

The incidences where she demonstrates a little intelligence are so few and far between as to be almost inconsequential. She's also a filthy, venereal disease-carrying slut.
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #87 on: 12-11-2013 15:45 »

Amy really isn't represented as stupid. Like TMC said, she's shallow and clumsy, but her intelligence hasn't usually been shown, it's other aspects of her character that are.


Someone born in this era of information accessibility has no excuse to be uninformed, and education stimulates the mind to develop other areas of intelligence. So in the absence of an actual mental impairment, there is no excuse for being stupid. It is a result of what must almost be a deliberate effort to avoid learning.

Stupid people are a burden on our society and the time has come for us to do... what we know must be done.
Are you stupid or something?
Vile Crocodile

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« Reply #88 on: 12-11-2013 15:47 »

Stupid is as stupid does, sir.
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #89 on: 12-27-2013 14:12 »

Why don't some of these Leela haters put her in that machine General Zod used on Superman that strips people of their powers?

MeatablePie

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« Reply #90 on: 12-27-2013 14:54 »

Why don't some of these Leela haters put her in that machine General Zod used on Superman that strips people of their powers?



KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #91 on: 12-27-2013 15:11 »

Why don't some of these Leela haters put her in that machine General Zod used on Superman that strips people of their powers?

Probably something to do with the fact that Leela is not a real person, which makes it impossible for anyone to touch her. roll eyes
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« Reply #92 on: 12-30-2013 19:06 »
« Last Edit on: 12-30-2013 19:13 »

Amy really isn't represented as stupid. Like TMC said, she's shallow and clumsy, but her intelligence hasn't usually been shown, it's other aspects of her character that are.




That's untrue: Amy is much, much smarter then Leela academically.  In her specialised fields, she's the most intelligent character after the professor, and seems to be a skilled surgeon of both humans and robotics (notice it wasn't Zoidberg heping out in it, it was Amy.)  

She's just very naive due to her sheltered upbringing, and when it comes to absent-mindedness, lack of common sense, naivete, guillability, she rivals Fry.  "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me seven or eight times, shame on me." and "what's rent?"  Oh and let's not forget the time Amy had to be physically restrained by the entire crew to stop her from sticking her hand down a garbage dispal unit that was telling her someone had dropped a diamond ring down there... during a murderous robot uprising.  and  Leela is street smart but average in booksmarts, whilst Amy is book smart but has no real common sense whatsoever.

Really Amy is the combination of the most common Asian stereotypes despite them being polar opposites of each other, the ditzy airheaded pretty girl (Tiffany from Daria, Gwen from American Dad) and the academically gifted smartypants (Phoebe from Hey Arnold, Candy from Gravity Falls, Cho Chang from Harry Potter)
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #93 on: 12-30-2013 19:36 »

Amy is much, much smarter then Leela academically.  In her specialised fields, she's the most intelligent character after the professor, and seems to be a skilled surgeon of both humans and robotics (notice it wasn't Zoidberg heping out in it, it was Amy.) 

Yes, but that's just not part of her character mostly. It is in couple of episodes, but not usually.
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« Reply #94 on: 12-30-2013 22:05 »

To be fair, Amy's not the focus of many episodes. Most of the time she's just around the place, so casual acquaintances (or people just watching her pass through a non-Amy-centric episode) will take her to be nothing more than a ditz. Kind of like how if you don't watch the episodes that focus on Nibbler being intelligent, you wouldn't think he WAS intelligent.
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« Reply #95 on: 04-04-2014 14:35 »
« Last Edit on: 04-04-2014 14:41 »

There's nothing to hate about the characters.  I really like Leela.   Hating on a character is just a waste of time.

UnrealLegend

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« Reply #96 on: 04-04-2014 14:47 »

Yeah, I agree. Unless the character is offensive in some way there's no need for people to get their panties in a knot, especially if they're actually supposed to be jerks.
lackofmops

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« Reply #97 on: 07-21-2014 21:33 »

All the characters have imperfections. Fry is stupid and lazy, the professor's an amoral crackpot and Amy's a Martian klutz who lives off her parents. But they all have strengths, too, and you seem to be neglecting Leela's strengths.
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« Reply #98 on: 08-05-2014 20:42 »

Anyone else feel the same?

I hate her too.

She didn't bother me in the original series, but I can't stand her at all in the new episodes.  I don't know if she's actually worse, of if it's just that reading too many posts from shippers and Leela fans on PEEL has lowered my opinion of her, but I still like her in the old episodes, so I suspect that it's the former.

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« Reply #99 on: 08-06-2014 09:15 »

I feel generally the opposite.  In the newer episodes, actually being with Fry, she seems more down to earth and reasonable rather than being stuck up and overly bitchy.  That's the feel I got a lot from season 5 or is it called 6?  I dunno.

When's the new season start anyways?
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« Reply #100 on: 08-06-2014 09:38 »

Which one's Leela again? confused
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #101 on: 08-07-2014 02:42 »

Which one's Leela again? confused

lelas the 1 w/ 1 eye n ppl hair ^_^
Beamer

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« Reply #102 on: 08-07-2014 04:53 »

But Fry has people hair too! This is so confusing. cry
Two Liters of Slurm

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« Reply #103 on: 08-07-2014 05:44 »

But Fry has people hair too! This is so confusing. cry

I guess this will confuse you even more.
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« Reply #104 on: 08-07-2014 05:59 »

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« Reply #105 on: 08-07-2014 09:18 »

Anyone else feel the same?

I hate her too.

She didn't bother me in the original series, but I can't stand her at all in the new episodes.  I don't know if she's actually worse, of if it's just that reading too many posts from shippers and Leela fans on PEEL has lowered my opinion of her, but I still like her in the old episodes, so I suspect that it's the former.

I guess the on/off inconsistencies were unfitting, rendering Leela from "A woman who is not completely sure what she really wants" to "a character whose writers do not really know want they want to do with her".
As episodic sitcom Futurama can take many liberties on a "whatever fits the episode right now". But the Fry/Leela relationship as the shows supposed most continuous aspect was also the most ineligible for that kind of writing.
winna

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« Reply #106 on: 08-09-2014 08:52 »

Is it not once in every young person's life that they too become the leela
Mr Snrub

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« Reply #107 on: 08-10-2014 00:57 »

Perhaps part of the problem was that Leela's flaws came from her unknown past. She was pushing back at a harsh world. But when she found her parents, her love, her life's ambitions, she lost the sympathy and reasoning behind being naggy and hypocritical.
CookiesOnTheFloor
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« Reply #108 on: 08-24-2014 06:14 »

I like Leela a lot. But I agree with Mr Snrub. I think that Leela should be portrayed as  being a victim of discrimination from time to time. It would make her more sympathetic.
LeelasOpposite

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« Reply #109 on: 08-28-2014 18:48 »
« Last Edit on: 08-28-2014 18:52 »

Sorry about joining in on this conversation so late but, I'm a huge fan of Leela but i do agree with both Mr Snrub, and CookiesOnTheFloor,Leela's life situations is kinda like Minx with her Verbal Abuse  tongue   cool
Jezzem

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« Reply #110 on: 08-29-2014 03:59 »

Perhaps part of the problem was that Leela's flaws came from her unknown past. She was pushing back at a harsh world. But when she found her parents, her love, her life's ambitions, she lost the sympathy and reasoning behind being naggy and hypocritical.

Finding her parents eventually doesn't really erase the fact that she spent all of her life not knowing where she came from and having no family. She might have a good life now, but if she's had a shitty life and spent the majority of it pushing back at a harsh world that's probably going to continue to affect her.
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