I hate Leela

[Reply #40 on:]

Some people don't like Leela because she's a hypocrite.

Flaws and undesirable attributes don't make a bad character, however, or an unbelievable one -- just an individual who would have difficulty remaining likable in real life.

I assume the difference is between a hypocritical character, and a character becoming the mouthpiece for a writers hypocracy.

Simpsons was accused of a phase when Lisa underwent a grave "creator's pet" treatment. Critics complained that Miss GoodyTwoShoes was always right, everyone else disagreeing with her had to be written an idiot, etc... which lead to Lisa becoming the most hated Simpson character for several viewers.

When that hypocracy was shifted from the story towards the character herself (e.g. the over-zealous self-righteous vegetarian crusade), the character became more likeable again.  "A character who is always right" turned into "A character who BELIEVES to be always right".

I do not mind plots like "Leela and the Genestalk", with its "Genetic enigneering is bad, unless I can benefit from it" stance. Not the most noble attitude, but an understandable human flaw.

I disapprove plots like "Raging Bender": Leela was the one dishing out all the time, yet, the message (that she was supposed to be the REAL victim) was rubbed under our nose.  In that case, Leela was not a character driven hypocrite, but turned into a nearly remote controlled mouthpiece for Morton's double standards.

[Reply #41 on:]

I love Leela.

[Reply #42 on:]

It seems like since the 2011 season, there's been a subesquent backlash against Leela and the way she acted in those episodes.  People thought she was acting like Bender.  And nobody liked it when she hit on that Angus in Fry Am The Eggman and the way she went to extremes on Mobius Dick.  it seems as though Leela became the most hated character.

What that reminded me of is this:  back in 1997, it was announced in the Archie Sonic the Hedgehog comic book they were going to kill off Princess Sally.  Once that issue came the following spring, people were outraged and they thought Sally was never coming back.  Then four issues later, she did come back and everyone was happy, and in the following issues, people kept complaining that the Sonic comic book wasn't the same anymore.  And nobody liked Princess Sally anymore.   Then everyone started to think Amy Rose was better.

Princess Sally was like the Leela of Sonic the Hedgehog cartoon and comics.  

[Reply #43 on:]

It's not like that at all. Very few people despise Leela's character, they just don't like the way the writers handle her. Plus the hate that is there has been there since season 3.

[Reply #44 on:]

It's not like that at all.

Kurt thinks everything's like the Sonic cartoons.

[Reply #45 on:]

It's not like that at all.

Kurt thinks everything's like the Sonic cartoons.

[Reply #46 on:]

Back on the actual topic, I really like Leela.  I think she's a great character.

[Reply #47 on:]

I know KurtPikachu absolutely loathes Leela, and gets off on seeing her get hurt, but I can't think of any other PEELer who actively hates her.

[Reply #48 on:]

That's a dang lie, and you know it!

[Reply #49 on:]

That's a dang lie, and you know it!

I'm pretty sure that was the point.

Really, there's nothing to dislike about Leela. Sure, she's contradictory at times, but the same can be said about almost everyone. Just because she sometimes breaks her own rules doesn't mean she's a bad character.

[Reply #50 on:]

Agree with you MRM!

Since the comics are still going strong and if the show comes back and if these types of scanarios happen to her, lose all faith and hope:


www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbYc7L5U_5I

www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVhm5ewBtck

www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3qBNqv3GaE

[Reply #51 on:]

Since the comics are still going strong and if the show comes back and if these types of scanarios happen to her, lose all faith and hope:

Are you saying that Leela should never be made a DiD?

[Reply #52 on:]

Are you saying that Leela should never be made a DiD?

Oh you you DiDn't!

[Reply #53 on:]

Oh yes I DiD.

However, it seems Kurt may have left forever again, so we may not get his opinion on this. For at least two weeks.

[Reply #54 on:]

I thought Kurt loved Leela so much that he would want to go out of reality and into the Futurama world to fuck her?

[Reply #55 on:]

I thought Kurt loved Leela so much that he would want to go out of reality and into the Futurama world to fuck her?

Are you implying Kurt lives in reality in the first place? I don't think there's any sufficient evidence to support that.

[Reply #56 on:]

Sure there's evidence: he's been on Peel since 2003!  Oh, wait...

I really enjoy the Leela character, despite the occasional jarring things that she does.

[Reply #57 on:]

I thought Kurt loved Leela so much that he would want to go out of reality and into the Futurama world to fuck her?

No, you're thinking of leelasbluehair. Or you're getting Leela confused with Fry and you're thinking of Unmentionable.

[Reply #58 on:]

Where's the "I hate Farnsworth" thread? Old people smell like cabbage.

[Reply #59 on:]

Kurt is far more sane than Unmentionable. I'm pretty sure he doesn't actually believe the characters are real, he just doesn't like people stereotyping Leela into a "damsel in distress" just because she's female.

[Reply #60 on:]

 Anyway, to settle this whole 'I hate Leela,' thing, lets all agree that Leela is a needed character on the show and we don't really give a damn if you hate her or not.
(directed to anyone in general)

[Reply #61 on:]

You heard her, close the thread.

Incidentally, I hate Leela-centric episodes with issues of morality and successfulness making episode rather boring!

[Reply #62 on:]

Belay that thread closing, rename the thread!

[Reply #63 on:]

Kurt is far more sane than Unmentionable. I'm pretty sure he doesn't actually believe the characters are real, he just doesn't like people stereotyping Leela into a "damsel in distress" just because she's female.

It's not because she's female. Did Kurt ever say it's because she's female? Because I'd be disappointed if he did.

[Reply #64 on:]

I hate Leela

I hate you!

[Reply #65 on:]

Kurt is far more sane than Unmentionable. I'm pretty sure he doesn't actually believe the characters are real, he just doesn't like people stereotyping Leela into a "damsel in distress" just because she's female.

It's not because she's female. Did Kurt ever say it's because she's female? Because I'd be disappointed if he did.

He didn't, but it still doesn't make a lick of sense either way. The characters' archetypes warp to fit whatever mould is necessary for the story at hand; coupled with the show's constant plays on character pairings and toying with who is good/evil, etc. To get up in arms about Leela being the "damsel in distress" for a portion of one episode (and even then, it was far from a traditional scenario) when WASN'T for the other 99%+ of the show's total duration is just asinine. It's in the show's very nature to play around with its own formula(s).

[Reply #66 on:]

I like Leela's character overall, but I personally think that Leela is much more of a likable character in the FOX run than she is in the Comedy Central run.
In the original episodes, she seems to be somewhat more morally strong. For example, in 'The Birdbot of Ice-Catraz', she had difficulties trying to convince herself to shoot some of the innocent penguins, as she was sticking by her animal protecting morals. Later on, in 'fry am the Eggman', she actually want to eat the unborn Bone Vampire, not caring whatsoever about how cruel that technically is. Another example is how in the original series, Leela completely and entirely resents the fact that she had sex with Zapp, and hopes never to do it again, while in 'In-A-Gadda-De-Leela', she doesn't hesitate for even a minute when she is told to have sex with him again.
Also, I've noticed that Leela had a much more prominent personality in the FOX run. She was often very cynical, which made her a much more realistic and enjoyable character, and also gave her a few memorable lines. In the CC run, I felt like she was much less snarky, and much more 'stereotypical girlfriend' - Always thinking about her relationship with Fry, being On-again Off-again, all that kind of stuff -  which could make her unlikeable to some.
Again, I still like her overall, but I can easily see where Leela haters are coming from.

[Reply #67 on:]

I love Leela. Any Leela.

[Reply #68 on:]

I like leela, because shes part of the show.

And she makes Futurama Futurama.
With out leela it wouldn't be the same.

You could say you hate any character
But they all have a role and with out them it would just be different.

[Reply #69 on:]

Sorry to go off-topic, but you may have a few too many signature pictures there, Fry-Azel. One should work sufficiently. Nevertheless, welcome to the forum.

[Reply #70 on:]

Sorry.

[Reply #71 on:]

I hate Leela

I hate you!

Thankyou.

I can't believe people are still whining and bitching about this.

I already said that maybe 'hate' is too strong a word, and yet many people, months down the line, are still being so damn overly-serious saying things like 'you can't hate a cartoon character'. Someone even said something like 'people who hate leela for messing fry around are probably those who think they deserve more luck with women' or something loosely along those lines. Pretty ridiculous.

I don't like her character. Get over it.

[Reply #72 on:]

Opinions do not matter on the internet, Jarvio unless it's a H&H tournament or something like that.

Shame, Jarvio, Shame  .

[Reply #73 on:]

Are you seriously upset because you started a thread entitled "I hate Leela" and people responded to it in defence of that character? Pretty ridiculous. Maybe it's you who needs to get over it.

[Reply #74 on:]

Don't you hate pants?!

[Reply #75 on:]

Are you seriously upset because you started a thread entitled "I hate Leela" and people responded to it in defence of that character? Pretty ridiculous. Maybe it's you who needs to get over it.

I'm not upset about that one bit. I just feel that some people have overreacted big time.

And you brought me into it by saying you hate me. 6 months after my original post, out of nothing. Pretty immature.

[Reply #76 on:]

I'd be willing to bet that Jezzem wasn't even remotely serious with that statement.

[Reply #77 on:]

I'd be willing to bet that Jezzem wasn't even remotely serious with that statement.

Probably not but was still pretty silly

[Reply #78 on:]

Of course it was silly, that was the point of the post!

[Reply #79 on:]

I'd be willing to bet that Jezzem wasn't even remotely serious with that statement.

Probably not but was still pretty silly

Well wasn't your temper tantrum pretty silly?