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Tastes Like Fry

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« Reply #600 on: 09-25-2006 09:13 »
« Last Edit on: 09-25-2006 09:13 »

Oh yes... how could I forget? *headdesk*

Thankyou! I was wanting to add a pic from AFTR but I ran out of room ><

EDIT: TOTP!
[Fry]Wahoo![/Fry]
HopelessShipper

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« Reply #601 on: 09-25-2006 12:45 »

Yeah TLF, your work is so damn clean...


and shippy!
Xanfor

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« Reply #602 on: 09-26-2006 08:40 »
« Last Edit on: 09-26-2006 08:40 »

 
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Originally posted by Shiny:
(no, I never watched Friends.  Yeah, I'm the one.    roll eyes @ self).  But I like the lyrics.

Really? Hmm... Well, if you need practice writing in-character fanfics, especially involving relationships, there is no show better to work with. Like 'Futurama', the essence of 'Friends' is in the characters. It's not just wild and abstract comedy at every opportunity. Every character has depth and a history. Think of it as a mixture of a really, really good comedy and (if you'll pardon the apparent oxymoron) a good soap opera.

It's not the best show ever (Futurama' wins that contest), but one of the episodes was rated by TV Guide and TV Land to contain 'The 58th most unexpected moment on television'. And don't look up that '58th moment' to see what is. You have to actually see it order to get the spoof I'm gonna be making in my Anthology. Yeah, I know what you're thinking.



Come on, Bender, give us the control back...



Aww... Here's Leela looking at something... That brings a tear to my eye... And you know what else does?



Yeah, I thought so.

This has been Xanfor saying 'I edit all my posts'.

Tastes Like Fry

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« Reply #603 on: 09-26-2006 22:19 »

I was watching 'Insane in the Mainframe' the other day. I never realised how incredibly shippy it was, and it's Leela insinuating it!

She is the most concerned

*Beepbeepbeepbeep*

She can't keep her hands off him

And of course our favourite bits...


And thus my daily shippy quota was fulfilled

Xanfor... You have completely and utterley confused me.   hmpf I don't have access to any 'Friends' dvds so I'll have to look at it online. It'll be interesting to see the list of unexpected moments as well. Looking forward to your fic. Don't take too long to post it  tongue
Shiny

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« Reply #604 on: 09-27-2006 01:35 »
« Last Edit on: 09-27-2006 01:35 »

Xanfor: I caught the middles and ends of some episodes here and there, and I could see it was a well-done, funny, and layered show, but the only character who really "caught" me was Phoebe...none of the other five seemed very quirky or nerdy, and the show didn't have a science fiction or adventure premise, and, well...what more can I say?  I know what I likes and I likes what I know.   tongue 

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Tastes Like Fry: Insane in the Mainframe is one of my top favorite episodes, for all of those reasons you just showed grabs of.   love

(Also because Fry gets trapped in a closet with a knife-wielding psychotic robot, but we won't go into that...   evil laugh )
Xanfor

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« Reply #605 on: 09-27-2006 07:12 »
« Last Edit on: 09-28-2006 00:00 »

Odd... I like Chandler. Although Phoebe is by far the one with the most history... (No pun intended)

(And yes, I was purposely being confusing yesterday. You should try it sometime. (Smiley faces and apologies)

Now, go nominate Shiny. 'Nuff said and done.

   
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Originally posted by Shiny:

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Originally posted by futz:
Don't know, it all sounds like Leela being poor little Fry-baby's mommy. "Here Fry, Leela will beat up the nasty big boy for you, and then we'll do the wild thing." Sounds pretty ickie doesn't it?
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No...it sounds refreshingly non-sexist!  I LOVE it when a male character has no problem with having their bacon continuously saved by a woman who is admittedly and demonstrably more qualified to do the saving.  The fact that Fry unabashedly hides behind Leela (liked in MarsU, teaser) I find hilarious and adorable.

This doesn't stop him from throwing himself in front of Leela to protect her in cases where her superior fighting skills give her no advantage (Xmas Story, Sting, TDHAIP), so it's not at all about Fry's courage or affection being deficient.  Fry just has zero (zip, zilch, nada) interest in being macho, and no one can shame him into it because he has no shame.       big grin


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Originally posted by SpaceCase:
I agree: Fry's chances are infinitely better then Zap's, but only because Zap's chances are zero!
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Yes!  As one of my housemates likes to say, - As long as Zapp Brannigan exists, Fry will never be at the bottom of the list.      wink

'Sniff. I don't know how she does it. She can bundle my entire worldview into an amazingly discriptive pile of random words. Somebody hold me...



Love this pic. I kind of like the *beep-beep-beep* one, but mostly for laughs. The fact that Leela doesn't realize wat she's doing cracks me up every time. But her stroking his hair here... That's so subliminal. Even Leela probably doesn't even notice how she was doing it. Just more evidence to support my theory that one day, Bender's gonna get fed up and decide to take matters into his own hands.

Now here's an idea for a fic: What if the crew had to travel back to Universe #1 for some reason, and Fry1 and Leela1 decide that FryA and LeelaA are really pathetic, and they collaborate with Bender in order to take matters into their own hands?

Hmm... So many thoughts that need to be thought...

    wink

LuvFry

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« Reply #606 on: 09-27-2006 09:14 »
« Last Edit on: 09-27-2006 09:14 »

Luv that idea! I totally agree with you about Bender, one day, he's gonna snap! Can't wait for that moment   smile

P.S. Insane in the Mainframe is my absolute favorite episode!!! It has all the elements of why I love this show: every time I watch it, I end up laughing so hard I can't breathe, and it's full of shippy goodness!

I'll leave you with my favorite quote from that episode:
"Nice to meet you--hostages!"
SpaceCase

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« Reply #607 on: 09-27-2006 11:55 »
« Last Edit on: 09-27-2006 11:55 »

 
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Originally posted by Shiny:
... I caught the middles and ends of some episodes [of ‘Friends’] here and there, and I could see it was a well-done, funny, and layered show, but the only character who really "caught" me was Phoebe...none of the other five seemed very quirky or nerdy, and the show didn't have a science fiction or adventure premise, and, well...what more can I say?  I know what I likes and I likes what I know.    tongue  ...
I’m glad to hear you say that, Shiny; “Friends” never ‘hooked’ me. I wanted to like it more, but... *Sigh* ... I guess it takes more than “shippy” to hook me - WHO SAID THAT?   wink
fryandlemon

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« Reply #608 on: 09-27-2006 20:07 »
« Last Edit on: 09-27-2006 20:07 »

Funny... I used to think of insane in the mainframe as my favorite non shippy episode...  Guess i missed all the shippyness that happened the first time I watched! 

How'd that happen... Strange...

Well I had a three year break from futurama from when the show ended to when i realized how much i missed it and bought the DVD's, only natural that I forget the smaller details.
There's my excuse   tongue



Shippy pic!  Don't you just love it when Fry get's all cute and jealous?

One thing that bothered me though during the cyber house rules was the fact that he was jealous in one scene and then showed no signs of being jealous in the ones that followed.

Like in this scene:


Not the best framegrab, but my point is, in that scene Adlai(or however you spell it) has his arm around Leela and Fry looks as if he doesn't care at all, no big deal!  She was thinking of having children with Adlai and Fry does nothing...   frown
(I guess he couldn't anyway, but he could look at least a little upset in that scene)

He did want her to appreciate having one eye though and got his thanks   smile
Tastes Like Fry

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« Reply #609 on: 09-28-2006 01:54 »

We interrupt this conversation to bring a recent shippy creation by TLF
...
Thankyou for your attention.

 
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Originally posted by Xanfor:
Somebody hold me...
*hugs*
 
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Just more evidence to support my theory that one day, Bender's gonna get fed up and decide to take matters into his own hands.
Actually I would think Nibbler would. I can imagine them going to a walk and Nibbler running madly around their legs and them getting tangled in the leash and falling, say, in a suggestive position?  tongue
Fry nor Leela are people of much words, but affection by touch.
There's like five languages of 'love'
Physical Touch
Quality Time
Acts of Kindness
Words of Affirmation
Gifts
(I think those are the right titles)

I think both Fry and Leela are PT and maybe QT
Xanfor

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« Reply #610 on: 09-28-2006 13:07 »
« Last Edit on: 09-28-2006 13:07 »

 
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Originally posted by SpaceCase:
I’m glad to hear you say that, Shiny; “Friends” never ‘hooked’ me. I wanted to like it more, but... *Sigh* ... I guess it takes more than “shippy” to hook me - WHO SAID THAT?

Yeah, that's kinda how I feel too. However, BumbleBeeTheta was apparently a fan. She wrote her fanfic 'My So-Called Best Friend's Wedding' based on several episodes. I like those particular episodes as well, but not for the reason she spoofed. But she was the one who inspired me to write the spoof I am now. So all hail her! (I do hope she returns someday...)

Oh, and I was the one who said that, SpaceCase. Sorry for interrupting, but as any real shipper knows (where Intelligent = True), more is required from a story than pure shippyness (That is, a story where ¬Shippy = Ř). That's one of the reasons 'Insane in the Mainframe' is so popular around here (Episode &#8660; [{¬Shippy = Ř} &#8744; {Shippy = Ř} = ¬True] &#8594; Popular Among Shippers = True).

 
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Originally posted by Tastes Like Fry:

*hugs*

Ok, enough now, enough! Oh, wait, you're a girl... Ok then.   flirt

(Pause)

Why are you running away? I'm not finished yet!

   wink

 
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Actually I would think Nibbler would. I can imagine them going to a walk and Nibbler running madly around their legs and them getting tangled in the leash and falling, say, in a suggestive position?     tongue

Eh, but that's Nibbler's job. He's just waiting for the right time. But Bender... Bender knows nothing about anyone's job, even his own. If he gets fed up and starts trying to meddle with other people's emotional affairs...



   big grin

And now, as I said before, it's time to nominate Shiny. But don't all of you jump up at once, because I'm not done yet. I have one more rebuttal...

 
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Originally posted by fryandlemon:
One thing that bothered me though during the cyber house rules was the fact that he was jealous in one scene and then showed no signs of being jealous in the ones that followed.

Please! Who do you think tipped off the police as to Bender's actions?   wink

I love this job.



SpaceCase

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« Reply #611 on: 09-28-2006 14:59 »

 
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Originally posted by Xanfor:
I do hope she [BumbleBeeTheta] returns someday...
As do I: I’ve not heard from her in... [thinks] ... Whoa. Over three years?
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I was the one who said that, SpaceCase.
I think you missed my point, Xanfor.
Think of it as ‘humor by contrary’.  wink
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...more is required from a story than pure shippyness...
My point.
Shocking as it may be.

Can the apocalypse be far off?
Xanfor and I AGREE?  eek  laff
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Why are you running away? I'm not finished yet!
[Amazonian]
ME give you hug...  evil laugh   laff
[/Amazonian]
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... If he [Bender] gets fed up and starts trying to meddle with other people's emotional affairs...
I can see Bender getting so fed up with Fry’s moping about over Leela that he decides to do something about it. Though what that might be, or it’s effects...

[*Shudders*]

It would be like putting nitroglycerine in a paint-mixer...
LuvFry

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« Reply #612 on: 09-28-2006 21:33 »
« Last Edit on: 09-28-2006 21:33 »

Xanfor, when are we getting your new fanfic?!?!

The suspense is killing me!

*LuvFry passes out, drooling into her laptop*

SpaceCase

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« Reply #613 on: 09-28-2006 23:29 »

 
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Originally posted by LuvFry:
*LuvFry passes out, drooling into her laptop*
[*Tsk*]

There seems to be a lot of that going around.
Tastes Like Fry

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« Reply #614 on: 09-29-2006 00:35 »

*flauntflauntflaunt* Enough with the nicities! I demand comments!
 
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Originally posted by Xanfor:
Ok, enough now, enough! Oh, wait, you're a girl... Ok then.  flirt

(Pause)

Why are you running away? I'm not finished yet!

 wink
  flirt back at ya!

 
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Originally posted by LuvFry:
Xanfor, when are we getting your new fanfic?!?!
The suspense is killing me!

*LuvFry passes out, drooling into her laptop*

Quick! Someone shave her eyebrows!

 tongue
LuvFry

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« Reply #615 on: 09-29-2006 08:57 »

*quickly regains consciousness to find TLF standing over her laughing maniacly*

Ack! I need those! How else are you supposed to know when I'm angry or confused?
SpaceCase

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« Reply #616 on: 09-29-2006 12:59 »

 
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Originally posted by LuvFry:
Ack! I need those! How else are you supposed to know when I'm angry or confused?
Uhm...   madevil laugh , or   confused , maybe?

 wink
LuvFry

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« Reply #617 on: 09-29-2006 13:17 »
« Last Edit on: 09-29-2006 13:17 »

Bite my marvelous meaty @$$! up yours

Just kidding, yall know I love ya right? love

Hey, isn't this supposed to be about the Fry and Leela relationship? Get back on topic people!         wink
SpaceCase

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« Reply #618 on: 09-29-2006 13:37 »

 
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Originally posted by LuvFry:
Hey, isn't this supposed to be about the Fry and Leela relationship? Get back on topic people!  wink
[Points at LuvFry]

She started it!
I kid, I kid.  big grin
LuvFry

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« Reply #619 on: 09-29-2006 22:07 »

Nuh-uh!!!

So, anywho:

Leela and Fry are a perfect match! BUT:Sometimes I get so mad at Leela, but I remember that she grew up emotionally deprived, and all is forgiven (sort of)

Something I've noticed in a lot of fanfic I've read, is that many people think that she would start out using Fry as a booty-call, then get freaked out that he really loves her... which would set them back to the beginning. This almost seems like something Leela would do, in earlier eps, but as time moves on, I don't think that she would do that to Fry. She knows he loves her now, she's just not sure about how she feels.

That being said, if they ever slept together before the series finally, I could see her retreating thinking that she messed up their relationship, and Fry blaming himself, all that emotional gush.

But, if there is one thing us romantical types love to hate, it's that emotional, gut-wrenching, you're an idiot, go get her you moron gush.

That being said, I need a emotional gush fix, I'm gonna go watch "Parasites Lost"

Feel free to agree/disagree with me....just no more talk of my missing eye-brows  smile
SpaceCase

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« Reply #620 on: 09-30-2006 00:54 »

 
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Originally posted by LuvFry:
Nuh-uh!!!
laff
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Leela and Fry are a perfect match!
Oh my, no!
That’s part of what makes the ‘ship so compelling. They are both flawed characters.
Fry is an essentially decent fellow, who loves Leela with a ferocious clarity, and I beleive she knows this, but his immaturity, lack of ambition, crudity, etc, put her off better than a gigawatt repulsor.
For her part, Leela has her issues too: She has abandonment, and rejection issues, the concordant rigid personal code, and I’m not even going to mention her dating history...

The conflict is the ‘thing’.
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Something I've noticed in a lot of fanfic I've read, is that many people think that she would start out using Fry as a booty-call, then get freaked out that he really loves her... which would set them back to the beginning.
Probably because it is a convenient plot-device.
Perhaps a little too convenient...
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This almost seems like something Leela would do, in earlier eps, but as time moves on, I don't think that she would do that to Fry.
Mmm... I think she’s come to value Fry’s friendship so much she doesn’t want to risk mucking that up.
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She knows he loves her now, she's just not sure about how she feels.
And that is the heart of the issue right there.
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That being said, if they ever slept together before the series finally, I could see her retreating thinking that she messed up their relationship, and Fry blaming himself, all that emotional gush.
I presume you mean before the series concludes?
Again that might be a little too convenient... 
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But, if there is one thing us romantical types love to hate, it's that emotional, gut-wrenching, you're an idiot, go get her you moron gush. That being said, I need a emotional gush fix, I'm gonna go watch "Parasites Lost"
I think we shippers must have some masochistic tendencies as a prerequisite...  wink
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Feel free to agree/disagree with me....just no more talk of my missing eye-brows   smile
Which reminds me,
[Hands LuvFry an envelope]
You, uh, might want these back...  roll eyes
Tastes Like Fry

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« Reply #621 on: 09-30-2006 02:50 »

Pfft eyebrows are for hynosists.

And now, with nothing else to say, I leave a shippy-on-topic pic
Kristen

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« Reply #622 on: 09-30-2006 02:58 »

Hi everyone, I'm new! This is probably my favourite topic to visit on this forum!  smile It's really interesting to read everyones opinion on the Fry/Leela relationship. They belong together!!  love
Cyberphobia

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« Reply #623 on: 09-30-2006 07:45 »

Hello! I'm new too! I love Fry/Leela so hopefully I can get involved in this amazing awesome topic!
LuvFry

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« Reply #624 on: 09-30-2006 08:56 »

Spacecase: When I said they were a perfect match, I didn't mean that they were perfect, I mean that they would make each other happy smile

P.S.Thanx for my eyebrows back!!!

Welcome Kristen and Cyberphobia! Feel free to dive in and start lots of shipper arguements! That's the best part wink
jle1993

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« Reply #625 on: 09-30-2006 09:12 »

Fry and Leela sitting in a tree
K.I.S.S.I.N.G
First comes love
Then comes marriage
Then come baby in the baby carriage

Sorry, I couldn't help myself *blushes*
Shiny

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« Reply #626 on: 09-30-2006 09:18 »
« Last Edit on: 09-30-2006 09:18 »

   
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Originally posted by SpaceCase:
   
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Originally posted by LuvFry:
Leela and Fry are a perfect match!
Oh my, no!
That’s part of what makes the ‘ship so compelling. They are both flawed characters.

But they're still a perfect match for each other in their very conflicting flawedness...each of their flaws is offset by the other's strengths, and each of their TOO-strong strengths is mitigated by the other's flaws...the conflict is just excess energy from their dynamic interaction.

Add Bender (Who in my vision is to the 'Ship like a lazy, loveable ne'er-do-well live-in cousin who occasionally provides a stumbling-block but who ultimately supports the relationship) and you have a well-rounded mixture of individual flaws that BECOMES a collective strength.

Or something like that.  (Shiny admits that maybe her brain is not quite awake yet.... )

Edit: or just read a couple posts back...: 
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Originally posted by LuvFry:
Spacecase: When I said they were a perfect match, I didn't mean that they were perfect, I mean that they would make each other happy   smile

Right on!   love
Cyberphobia

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« Reply #627 on: 09-30-2006 10:31 »

I dunno about the whole Bender getting them together theory.

I don't think Bender really gives a damn if they're together or not. He doesn't care about their feelings. The only thing important to Bender is himself and that's what makes him a good character. Like, he cares about Fry a bit but only for his own benifit. Fry is his best friend and he wants Fry there because it's HIS best friend, not because he actually cares about Fry. It all comes back to Bender really only caring for himself.
Shiny

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« Reply #628 on: 09-30-2006 10:37 »
« Last Edit on: 09-30-2006 10:37 »

Nonsense!  Of what POSSIBLE use to Bender was Fry's making a "metaphorical" deal with the Robot Devil to win Leela's heart?  And yet who not only suggested it in the first place, but threatened to lose all respect for Fry and punch him if he turned down the offer? Eh?  EH? 

Badda-bing, badda BAM!    tongue
Cyberphobia

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« Reply #629 on: 09-30-2006 10:44 »

Well... in Australia, they haven't shown that episode yet so nerrr! LOL
So I haven't seen that yet! *soon, soon* We're up to  'Three Hundred Big Boys' (so 6 more to go!) and we get a new episode once a week... and then we also get Season 2 episodes again Monday-Friday. So it's pretty good!

But yeah, you're probably right because I haven't seen that episode yet (and I'm pretty sure it's not out on DVD yet either).
KitKatBar-Fry

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« Reply #630 on: 09-30-2006 12:59 »
« Last Edit on: 09-30-2006 12:59 »

Actually, it is out on Season 4 DVD in U.S and Canada. I dunno about Australia, though...
I drew a sequal to the shippy pic I drew:


Hope y'all like it.
EDIT: I am allowed to post it without permission, right?
jle1993

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #631 on: 09-30-2006 14:42 »

Same as on your thread- YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY AYAYAYAY SHIPPY
LuvFry

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« Reply #632 on: 09-30-2006 15:01 »

 
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Originally posted by Shiny:
   Right on!    love

I'm glad you found my other post! Come on, I know they're flawed characters, that's what makes them great!!! love

I do believe that Bender does care about their relationship, or at least finds it mildly amusing. What's his favorite show (beyond Elzar)? It's a soap opera! What are soap operas made up of? Tangled love stories!

Along the more selfish line of things, (which is where Bender seems to dwell most often)
If Fry is going on and on about how wondeful Leela is, and he keeps getting his heart broken, he probably cries or something along those lines (maybe tries to talk to Bender) which gets on Bender's nerves. If it irritated him, he's more likely to make it happen just to get it to stop. (or at least that's what he would say)

Come on people, am I the only one out there that thinks that secretly,Bender is a hopeless romantic?  big grin   
jle1993

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #633 on: 09-30-2006 15:04 »

Nope, I completly agree with you on the Bender thing
MrBlonde

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #634 on: 09-30-2006 15:32 »

Elzar doesn't have a soap opera.
Shiny

Professor
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« Reply #635 on: 09-30-2006 16:40 »

MrBlonde doesn't have good reading comprehension.  tongue
LuvFry

Bending Unit
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« Reply #636 on: 09-30-2006 16:50 »

Mr. Blonde: I meant that besides Elzar's show, Bender's favorite show is "All My Circuits" a soap opera
Tastes Like Fry

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« Reply #637 on: 09-30-2006 17:57 »
« Last Edit on: 09-30-2006 17:57 »

 
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Originally posted by Cyberphobia:
Well... in Australia, they haven't shown that episode yet so nerrr! LOL
So I haven't seen that yet! *soon, soon* We're up to  'Three Hundred Big Boys' (so 6 more to go!) and we get a new episode once a week... and then we also get Season 2 episodes again Monday-Friday. So it's pretty good!

But yeah, you're probably right because I haven't seen that episode yet (and I'm pretty sure it's not out on DVD yet either).

I've been watching Futurama on tv here in Vic, Aus.. they aren't showing them in order!   no no
Best thing to do; do what I did and buy all the dvds.   tongue

Hmm and now that I've read that I see the probabilty of it. Bender does have this soft spot for Fry, and maybe even for Leela. (Cause she likes his 'in-your-face interface') Maybe there's a few other subtle hints somewhere... I haven't really delved into the character of Bender before...  hmpf
Kristen

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« Reply #638 on: 09-30-2006 19:51 »

^^^ Yeah, I live in Australia too, and it sucks how they weren't playing them in order, but they have started to now I think. They've played all through season one and are half way through two. I think they have show TDHAIP, but it was a while ago. That's my fave episode, my eyes always get watery at the end!  roll eyes
Cyberphobia

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« Reply #639 on: 09-30-2006 22:03 »

Ummm, well with the Tuesday 8:00 episodes, they were playing season 5 in order, and then they went to season 3 for a little while and now they're back to season 5, and so far, it's in order I think.

And witht the 7:00 episodes, I'm not really sure, I think they've played all season 1 and are in season two but I dunno if it's in order. I think it's loosely in an order.

I wasn't really paying attention closely enough.
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