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]PaulFSAC[
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« Reply #2 on: 01-17-2002 16:27 »
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I've never bought the fact that she's an alien. There's some proof of the mutant theory in "I Second That Emotion" her parents are possibly seen in a scene, in the sewers. In "How Hermes ..", there's an x-ray shot, and she looks pretty much haman in that. ------------------ Click me!
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Drippy_taco
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*rocks Kryten*
Haha, that didn't sound so great...
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Nixorbo
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A) I'm not committing myself to either viewpoint just yet. I'm staying with my wait-and-see approach.
B) Paul, being stoned doesn't involve alcohol. Being stoned involves Pot, weed, Mary Jane, whatever you call it.
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DrThunder88
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I think Leela's mutant heritage could be a downfall for the show. Perhaps "anticlimactic" is a better word. I mean, she's been searching for her home for her entire life, and all of a sudden someone says "Silly girl, you don't come from a distant planet, you come from a shit-hole on Earth!"
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Teral
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« Reply #18 on: 01-18-2002 22:40 »
« Last Edit on: 01-18-2002 22:40 »
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::Crawls out from under the big pile of stones:: Originally posted by DrThunder88: I think Leela's mutant heritage could be a downfall for the show. Perhaps "anticlimactic" is a better word. I mean, she's been searching for her home for her entire life, and all of a sudden someone says "Silly girl, you don't come from a distant planet, you come from a shit-hole on Earth!" I agree. If Leela was a mutant it would ruin her character. Well, it would ruin her character for ME. How can she be an outsider, if she isn't alien. If she is a mutant, well that's just another kind of human. Besides, she haven't searched that extensively for her homeplanet yet. There was "A Bicyclops Built For Two", and a third of "AOI II", but that's it. They haven't emptied that well yet, and I would like some more episodes about it. For what it's worth: IMO, she is an alien. She said so herself, and her physicals would have picked it up, if she was a mutant.
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]PaulFSAC[
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Originally posted by Teral: ::Crawls out from under the big pile of stones::
I agree.
If Leela was a mutant it would ruin her character. Well, it would ruin her character for ME. How can she be an outsider, if she isn't alien. If she is a mutant, well that's just another kind of human.
Besides, she haven't searched that extensively for her homeplanet yet. There was "A Bicyclops Built For Two", and a third of "AOI II", but that's it. They haven't emptied that well yet, and I would like some more episodes about it.
For what it's worth: IMO, she is an alien. She said so herself, and her physicals would have picked it up, if she was a mutant. But in Birdbot of Ice-Catraz, Bender identified her as Human after his second enforced reboot.
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DrThunder88
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It's not so much "ruining" her character as it is nullifying both her outsider status on Earth and removal from her birthright-society. Fry is permanently removed from his normal succession in society by 1000 years. If (and when, god forbid) Leela turns out to be a mutant, it'd be like Fry realizing that he was actually born in 2900's but was sent backwards through time only to find a place (and time) to call home 1000 years later. That's how I see it, anyway.
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Nixorbo
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Originally posted by wu_konguk: if you try to hit me woth rocks I'll get you back 100 fold SNOWBALL FIGHT!
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meisterPOOP
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Maybe, the Mutant Gene Hasn't Been Activated Yet...But I Respect Leela Too Much To Think She Is Capable Of That!
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Nixorbo
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Chrissy, do you think I'm joking when I say "Use the edit button?"
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Teral
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« Reply #29 on: 01-19-2002 12:40 »
« Last Edit on: 01-19-2002 12:40 »
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Originally posted by ]PaulFSAC[: But in Birdbot of Ice-Catraz, Bender identified her as Human after his second enforced reboot.
I think Bender just recognized her shape as being human. If he was programmed to recognize Cyclops, he'd probably have loaded that language. IMO, ofcourse. Hmm, ruined may have been a bit too strong, I can see that. But it will make her character a lot less intriguing. Part of Leela's fascinating character is her outcast/outsider-status. Being the only member of an unknown species, who lives on Earth gives her some nice traits for future stories, and alternate points of view. Discovering that she is just a twist of nature, well lets just say that's not my idea of a good character development. And I don't think they've made enough stories about Leela's search for her homeplanet, to actually make her find it already. :: Ducks:: Hey, who threw that snowball!!
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]PaulFSAC[
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Originally posted by Teral: I think Bender just recognized her shape as being human. If he was programmed to recognize Cyclops, he'd probably have loaded that language. IMO, ofcourse. That being the case, shouldn't the word Humanoid have been shown and not Human, especially where Leela is concerned.
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Teral
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Originally posted by ]PaulFSAC[: That being the case, shouldn't the word Humanoid have been shown and not Human, especially where Leela is concerned.
The aliens we've seen on Futurama is widely different in build and size. An explanation could be the programmers at Moms Friendly Robotfactory simply programmed Bender with shape- and size-recognition. A shape/size for every known memberspecies of DOOP, various animals, etc. As Leela is the only one of her kind on Earth, they wouldn't be aware of this option. When Bender saw the shape and size of Leela, the closest match was with a Human, and he loaded the appropriate language. Apparently the only thing separating the Human species from the Cyclopian species is the eye thing. But I could be wrong about the whole thing. Future episodes will show.
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DrThunder88
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Well, as long as we're theorizing...Bender's operating system might have recognized Leela and remembered that she speaks "Human".
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DrThunder88
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So maybe Human is the default language.
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AstroZombie
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Originally posted by Teral:
Apparently the only thing separating the Human species from the Cyclopian species is the eye thing.
Where did you hear that Teral? I kinda go with the Mutant camp here but alien is good too, just as long as the females of her species don't eat their mate after fertilization. She's perfect either way. Ahhh Leela Drifts off into blissful XXX rated dream
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