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« on: 01-17-2002 16:08 »

A thread similar to this was posted by some guy on The Hip Joint. No one really paid attention to it but i found it kinda interesting. Some people don't believe Leela is a mutant and some people don't believe that she isn't. Regardless, if it turned out that she was a mutant how do you think she would react to the news? How do you think the others would react? And just in general how do you think the ep would go? Would her parents (if she actually found them)accept her or regect her? or whatever else any of you can think of to post.


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« Reply #1 on: 01-17-2002 16:23 »
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it would be the greatest blasphemy ever!
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« Reply #2 on: 01-17-2002 16:27 »
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I've never bought the fact that she's an alien.

There's some proof of the mutant theory in "I Second That Emotion" her parents are possibly seen in a scene, in the sewers.  In "How Hermes ..", there's an x-ray shot, and she looks pretty much haman in that.


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« Reply #3 on: 01-17-2002 16:33 »

but i don't think that she'ld want to know. she'ld probably just be mad at everyone who supports the theory...
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« Reply #4 on: 01-17-2002 16:40 »

 
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it would be the greatest blasphemy ever!   confused
True, all who believe that Leela is a mutant must be stoned to death as blasphemers   evil laugh

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« Reply #5 on: 01-17-2002 16:48 »

 
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Originally posted by TheVoices:
it would be the greatest blasphemy ever!    confused
True, all who believe that Leela is a mutant must be stoned to death as blasphemers    evil laugh


considers himself stoned (as in drunk!)
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« Reply #6 on: 01-17-2002 16:53 »

 
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Originally posted by Venus:
A thread similar to this was posted by some guy on The Hip Joint. No one really paid attention to it but i found it kinda interesting. Some people don't believe Leela is a mutant and some people don't believe that she isn't. Regardless, if it turned out that she was a mutant how do you think she would react to the news? How do you think the others would react? And just in general how do you think the ep would go? Would her parents (if she actually found them)accept her or regect her? or whatever else any of you can think of to post.


Watch Leela's homeworld when it's on TV,all your mutant answers will be there for a fact.
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« Reply #7 on: 01-17-2002 16:58 »

we know. But since it won't be on till like April it won't hurt to hypothesize. Not all of us have the benifit of reading the script beforehand!!  big grin
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« Reply #8 on: 01-17-2002 19:56 »

 
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Originally posted by TheVoices:
it would be the greatest blasphemy ever!    confused
True, all who believe that Leela is a mutant must be stoned to death as blasphemers    evil laugh


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« Reply #9 on: 01-17-2002 22:08 »

 
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Originally posted by TheVoices:
it would be the greatest blasphemy ever!    confused
True, all who believe that Leela is a mutant must be stoned to death as blasphemers    evil laugh


Now look! Noone, is to stone anyone, until I blow this wistle! Do you understand? Even, and I want to make this ABSOLUTELY CLEAR, even if they do say mutant!


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« Reply #10 on: 01-17-2002 23:42 »

*stones Teral*
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« Reply #11 on: 01-17-2002 23:49 »

*rocks Kryten*

Haha, that didn't sound so great...
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« Reply #12 on: 01-18-2002 00:03 »

A) I'm not committing myself to either viewpoint just yet.  I'm staying with my wait-and-see approach.

B) Paul, being stoned doesn't involve alcohol.  Being stoned involves Pot, weed, Mary Jane, whatever you call it.
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« Reply #13 on: 01-18-2002 00:53 »

I think Leela's mutant heritage could be a downfall for the show.  Perhaps "anticlimactic" is a better word.  I mean, she's been searching for her home for her entire life, and all of a sudden someone says "Silly girl, you don't come from a distant planet, you come from a shit-hole on Earth!"
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« Reply #14 on: 01-18-2002 04:02 »

 
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A) I'm not committing myself to either viewpoint just yet.  I'm staying with my wait-and-see approach.

B) Paul, being stoned doesn't involve alcohol.  Being stoned involves Pot, weed, Mary Jane, whatever you call it.

It depends on which part of the world you come from Nixxy, over here stoned means/meant drunk, although your meaning is probably correct in this day and age  wink

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« Reply #15 on: 01-18-2002 04:31 »

Time will tell , i love surprises  tongue
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« Reply #16 on: 01-18-2002 17:29 »

She's not a mutant. She's an alien, she's just got one eye, K?!?!?!?!
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« Reply #17 on: 01-18-2002 17:48 »

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« Reply #18 on: 01-18-2002 22:40 »
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I think Leela's mutant heritage could be a downfall for the show.  Perhaps "anticlimactic" is a better word.  I mean, she's been searching for her home for her entire life, and all of a sudden someone says "Silly girl, you don't come from a distant planet, you come from a shit-hole on Earth!"

I agree.

If Leela was a mutant it would ruin her character. Well, it would ruin her character for ME. How can she be an outsider, if she isn't alien. If she is a mutant, well that's just another kind of human.

Besides, she haven't searched that extensively for her homeplanet yet. There was "A Bicyclops Built For Two", and a third of "AOI II", but that's it. They haven't emptied that well yet, and I would like some more episodes about it.

For what it's worth: IMO, she is an alien. She said so herself, and her physicals would have picked it up, if she was a mutant.
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« Reply #19 on: 01-18-2002 23:43 »

 
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« Reply #20 on: 01-19-2002 02:10 »

 
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  I agree.

If Leela was a mutant it would ruin her character. Well, it would ruin her character for ME. How can she be an outsider, if she isn't alien. If she is a mutant, well that's just another kind of human.

Besides, she haven't searched that extensively for her homeplanet yet. There was "A Bicyclops Built For Two", and a third of "AOI II", but that's it. They haven't emptied that well yet, and I would like some more episodes about it.

For what it's worth: IMO, she is an alien. She said so herself, and her physicals would have picked it up, if she was a mutant.

But in Birdbot of Ice-Catraz, Bender identified her as Human after his second enforced reboot.

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« Reply #21 on: 01-19-2002 03:32 »

It's not so much "ruining" her character as it is nullifying both her outsider status on Earth and removal from her birthright-society.  Fry is permanently removed from his normal succession in society by 1000 years.  If (and when, god forbid) Leela turns out to be a mutant, it'd be like Fry realizing that he was actually born in 2900's but was sent backwards through time only to find a place (and time) to call home 1000 years later.  That's how I see it, anyway.
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« Reply #22 on: 01-19-2002 03:36 »

 
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Originally posted by DrThunder88:
I think Leela's mutant heritage could be a downfall for the show.  Perhaps "anticlimactic" is a better word.  I mean, she's been searching for her home for her entire life, and all of a sudden someone says "Silly girl, you don't come from a distant planet, you come from a shit-hole on Earth!"

My feelings exactly - maybe not ruining the show but definitely an anticlimax.  no no
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« Reply #23 on: 01-19-2002 07:07 »

Wow you people are stubborn. Look there has never been evidence that she is an alien. Just cause she has one eye does not make her an alien. As for her being a mutant ruiniung the character I do not think so, some seem to believe this wold degrade her as being a lesser species but the point of mutation is to provide an adaption to survie better. Lets face it more and more computers are being relied on now and you do not need depth perception to read the sceens. Thus she may be a higher evolution than humans.

Another point cyclops' are interwoven it to the mythology of practically every race on Earth from the Greeks to the Japanese. So we might be able to assume she is a more ancient race than humans , that could mean she could still search out her heratige but stay on Earth.

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« Reply #24 on: 01-19-2002 11:21 »

 
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« Reply #25 on: 01-19-2002 11:57 »
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She's an alien, Not a mutant, right?
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« Reply #26 on: 01-19-2002 12:02 »

Maybe, the Mutant Gene Hasn't Been Activated Yet...But I Respect Leela Too Much To Think She Is Capable Of That!
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« Reply #27 on: 01-19-2002 12:04 »

Chrissy, do you think I'm joking when I say "Use the edit button?"
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« Reply #28 on: 01-19-2002 12:24 »

 
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« Reply #29 on: 01-19-2002 12:40 »
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 But in Birdbot of Ice-Catraz, Bender identified her as Human after his second enforced reboot.


I think Bender just recognized her shape as being human. If he was programmed to recognize Cyclops, he'd probably have loaded that language. IMO, ofcourse.

Hmm, ruined may have been a bit too strong, I can see that. But it will make her character a lot less intriguing. Part of Leela's fascinating character is her outcast/outsider-status. Being the only member of an unknown species, who lives on Earth gives her some nice traits for future stories, and alternate points of view. Discovering that she is just a twist of nature, well lets just say that's not my idea of a good character development.

And I don't think they've made enough stories about Leela's search for her homeplanet, to actually make her find it already.

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« Reply #30 on: 01-19-2002 12:50 »

I don't get it she'll be less of an outcast because she is a mutant  no no  people stair at her it the streets because she has one eye, they have no idea she is an alien or a mutant unless she tells them.

Oh and just so I know am I the only one who supports the mutanat theory  confused
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« Reply #31 on: 01-19-2002 12:57 »

Ow who threw that when i find out I'm goin' to find the biggest stick or branck of a tree and stick it where the sun do'n shine.  up yours
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« Reply #32 on: 01-19-2002 13:14 »

 
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If Leela was a mutant it would ruin her character. Well, it would ruin her character for ME. How can she be an outsider, if she isn't alien. If she is a mutant, well that's just another kind of human.

Well actually, except for a select few, the humans on earth don't accept her at all. To them she's nothing more then a circus freak. Remember in The Cyberhouse Rules right after she got her surgery? "Nobody stared at me, or avoided staring at me, or tried to burn me." So if she found out she was a mutant and instead of being alone in the galaxy she was actually alone in the universe she would feel very cut off. As an alien she could at least console herself with the thought that somewhere she was normal, but as a mutant she's shunned by her own people. Her status as an outsider would grow not diminish.


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« Reply #33 on: 01-20-2002 04:32 »

 
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  I think Bender just recognized her shape as being human. If he was programmed to recognize Cyclops, he'd probably have loaded that language. IMO, ofcourse.

That being the case, shouldn't the word Humanoid have been shown and not Human, especially where Leela is concerned.

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« Reply #34 on: 01-20-2002 17:09 »

 
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 That being the case, shouldn't the word Humanoid have been shown and not Human, especially where Leela is concerned.


The aliens we've seen on Futurama is widely different in build and size. An explanation could be the programmers at Moms Friendly Robotfactory simply programmed Bender with shape- and size-recognition. A shape/size for every known memberspecies of DOOP, various animals, etc. As Leela is the only one of her kind on Earth, they wouldn't be aware of this option.

When Bender saw the shape and size of Leela, the closest match was with a Human, and he loaded the appropriate language.

Apparently the only thing separating the Human species from the Cyclopian species is the eye thing.

But I could be wrong about the whole thing.  smile Future episodes will show.

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« Reply #35 on: 01-20-2002 17:16 »

Well, as long as we're theorizing...Bender's operating system might have recognized Leela and remembered that she speaks "Human".
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« Reply #36 on: 01-21-2002 05:59 »

Well that don't help noe since omicronions, Trisolions and practically every species met speaks human (which since the are from New New York will be English but I suppose it will vary if your watching in another country.)
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« Reply #37 on: 01-21-2002 16:38 »

So maybe Human is the default language.
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« Reply #38 on: 01-22-2002 05:07 »

That's what I'm assuming so seeing her as human does not prove she is a mutant or an alien.
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« Reply #39 on: 01-22-2002 14:11 »

 
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Apparently the only thing separating the Human species from the Cyclopian species is the eye thing.


Where did you hear that Teral?

I kinda go with the Mutant camp here but alien is good too, just as long as the females of her species don't eat their mate after fertilization.

She's perfect either way.

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