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Australian Guy

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« on: 06-06-2003 06:04 »

I remember one of which is That robots arent permitted to harm humans But bender does constantly. This comes after seeing the Valentines special from SE:3. Maybe the creators were trying to put the emphasis on the Links to our modern reality rather than on the fact that bender is a robot. He practically is human anyway.
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« Reply #1 on: 06-06-2003 12:25 »

Either that or Matt/David decided that said 3 laws wouldn't be funny and decided to ditch them.
McGrady

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« Reply #2 on: 06-06-2003 12:53 »

Bender is more of a caricature of a robot than an actual robot.
ZombieJesus

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« Reply #3 on: 06-06-2003 13:05 »

Maybe if you explained to us lowly layman peasants what these three laws are.
Gocad

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« Reply #4 on: 06-06-2003 13:21 »
« Last Edit on: 06-06-2003 13:21 »

Isaac Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics

First Law:
A robot may not injure a human being, or,    through inaction, allow a human being to   come to harm.

Second Law:
A robot must obey the orders given it by  human beings except where such orders   would conflict with the First Law.

Third Law:
A robot must protect its own existence as   long as such protection does not conflict   with the First or Second Law.

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CyberKnight

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« Reply #5 on: 06-06-2003 13:31 »

What do I look like, a guy who's not lazy? Thank yourself.  tongue

The three laws are hard to implement anyway, and they'd cause no end of logical paradoxes. Plus it's much funnier.  wink

Teral

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« Reply #6 on: 06-06-2003 13:42 »

As far as I know Asimovs laws was never adopted by any legislative body, so they're more a litterary curiosity than actual laws you have to abide to.

I mean, I can quickly set up a few laws about computers, yet I don't think anyone would give half a rats ass about them.

Teral's Law #1: Computers shall be efficient and quick to repsond to human commands.

Teral's Law #2: Computers shall have a smooth interface, unless that would contradict with rule #1.

Bill Gates: "HAH! Make me!"
Denton

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« Reply #7 on: 06-06-2003 14:34 »
« Last Edit on: 06-06-2003 14:34 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
As far as I know Asimovs laws was never adopted by any legislative body, so they're more a litterary curiosity than actual laws you have to abide to.

I mean, I can quickly set up a few laws about computers, yet I don't think anyone would give half a rats ass about them.

Teral's Law #1: Computers shall be efficient and quick to repsond to human commands.

Teral's Law #2: Computers shall have a smooth interface, unless that would contradict with rule #1.

Bill Gates: "HAH! Make me!"

LOL   laff    laff    laff    laff

but getting back to the subject if bender were to follow these rules bender would be a very boring charcter

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« Reply #8 on: 06-06-2003 16:07 »

i believe the 3 laws would be the equivelent of the 7 deadly sins, which i am up to 5 of them........... guess which ones i haven`t committed....hehe.........
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« Reply #9 on: 06-06-2003 17:31 »

 
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Originally posted by Denton:
  LOL    laff     laff     laff     laff

but getting back to the subject if bender were to follow these rules bender would be a very boring charcter


I personally think Red Dwarf's Kryten seemingly (at least tries to) follows these laws and his character is quite good. But Bender needs to be...well Bender for Futurama to work.


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Australian Guy

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« Reply #10 on: 06-07-2003 00:19 »

Yes but kryten i all quit and helpful. Bender is a kleptomaniac with an in your face attitude.
I just thought it was odd trhat there are so many obscure references in futurama, but this one was excluded.

They are really to bo considered more like laws of physics and nature than legislative laws.
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« Reply #11 on: 06-07-2003 01:10 »

Without bender breaking those laws the show would be dull.
Anarchist

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« Reply #12 on: 06-07-2003 01:17 »

You have to remember who invented robots in Futurama, and whose company created most of them. Neither Professor Farnsworth nor Mom know the meaning of morals, ethics, and basic decency.
Australian Guy

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« Reply #13 on: 06-07-2003 01:20 »

LOL, good point.
And its True bender obeying any rules would be dull  tongue
Gocad

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« Reply #14 on: 06-07-2003 03:31 »

 
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Originally posted by The Hypno Toad:
i believe the 3 laws would be the equivelent of the 7 deadly sins, which i am up to 5 of them........... guess which ones i haven`t committed....hehe.........

Doesn't matter, you gonna burn in Hell anyway...
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« Reply #15 on: 06-07-2003 04:05 »

The Three Laws of Robotics don't apply to Bender because Asimov didn't write any episodes of Futurama  tongue
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« Reply #16 on: 06-07-2003 05:23 »

You mean he didn't write I, Roomate?  tongue
Australian Guy

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« Reply #17 on: 06-07-2003 10:39 »

Is that the one where benders antenna messes up the reception?
winna

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« Reply #18 on: 06-07-2003 11:10 »

You call that an antennae?
Gocad

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« Reply #19 on: 06-07-2003 13:33 »

 
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Originally posted by Australian Guy:
Is that the one where benders antenna messes up the reception?

http://Oh yeah
Spanghewed

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« Reply #20 on: 06-07-2003 19:40 »

Asimov's laws aren't real laws. I've only ever seen them in his book "Bicentennial Man." Also, even if Futurama did have Asimov's laws, Robots can break laws just like humans, which Bender has no problem doing.  big grin
MuscaDomestica

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« Reply #21 on: 06-08-2003 00:49 »

I agree with Anarchist, look who built the robots, might have the laws with MOM replacing humans.
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« Reply #22 on: 06-08-2003 03:13 »

yeah, in a fan fic i would have bender re-programed only to come back badder than ever in the next installment to get revenge on those who wish to change him, or at least the guy who hates all computer AI, especially bender, and who bender is now emotionally attached to with that little chip he really loves to hate. a guy can dream, a guy can dream....
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« Reply #23 on: 06-08-2003 05:34 »

 
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Originally posted by Spanghewed:
Asimov's laws aren't real laws. I've only ever seen them in his book "Bicentennial Man." Also, even if Futurama did have Asimov's laws, Robots can break laws just like humans, which Bender has no problem doing.   big grin
Asimov's three laws are used in all his stories that involve robots, not just The Bicentennial Man

Australian Guy

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« Reply #24 on: 06-11-2003 11:36 »

I knew i heard that somewhere, I was thinking i heard it on AI In that professor both thingy.
reverend

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« Reply #25 on: 06-13-2003 11:19 »
« Last Edit on: 06-13-2003 11:19 »

This topic raises a very interesting question. Why is it important that Bender is  robot? I mean, would a human character with his traits be as funny? I think not. Asimov's laws perhaps are in Futurama inasmuch as part of Bender's appeal is that he breaks them constantly, thus going against the expectations of sci-fi fans who would know Asimov's laws (and everyone who has ever seen anything with robots made by Asimov readers). I'm not saying this very eloquently, but you get my point, don't you? It's precisely because Bender is the complete opposite of what a robot should be that he is so funny.
winna

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« Reply #26 on: 06-13-2003 11:25 »

Screw Asimov, nobody likes robots anyways...

Too much human killing in the end if you ask me, and I'd like to do as little dying as possible....
Australian Guy

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« Reply #27 on: 06-13-2003 11:38 »

Bender is a robot beacuse then you can throw in robot related jokes. Dont forget, Futurama is just today expect 1000 years in the future. Its modern day, cept..not.
I was thinking about some of benders jokes that wouldnt work if he was human, but i forget them now.
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« Reply #28 on: 06-13-2003 12:13 »

 
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Originally posted by Gocad:
Isaac Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics

First Law:
A robot may not injure a human being, or,    through inaction, allow a human being to   come to harm.

Second Law:
A robot must obey the orders given it by  human beings except where such orders   would conflict with the First Law.

Third Law:
A robot must protect its own existence as   long as such protection does not conflict   with the First or Second Law.

No need to thank me, but you can do it anyway...

There is actually a fourth law .. the zeroth law that the robot Giscard Reventlov added to his programming at the end of the Elijah Baley "Caves Of Steel" series.  Be darned if I can find the book to quote it though.

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Australian Guy

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« Reply #29 on: 06-13-2003 12:46 »

Soooo what is the law?
Timo

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« Reply #30 on: 06-13-2003 13:25 »

 
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Originally posted by Australian Guy:
Soooo what is the law?

It's a higher level version of the First Law.  Something along the lines of:

A robot shall not harm humanity, or through inaction allow humanity to come to harm.

The other three laws are then adjusted accordingly.

I'll have to look it up later to get you the exact wording.

@ winna: "Screw Asimov"!?!?  I used to think you were cool.  But no one that loves science fiction would ever even think of uttering such nonsense.  For shame.
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« Reply #31 on: 06-25-2003 20:22 »

Benders 2 laws of robotics

1 Bend

2 Cheese it

Or something to that effect. from birdbot of icecatraz it think)
Sil

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« Reply #32 on: 06-26-2003 10:29 »

 laff

Is it in Birdbot? I don't remember that.  Been a while since I've seen it though.
JDHannan

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« Reply #33 on: 06-26-2003 12:26 »

Yes it is, and the 'laws' of being a penguin are 1.) eat
2.) frolic
i think
Gocad

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« Reply #34 on: 06-26-2003 12:41 »

"laws" are not "tasks"
reverend

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« Reply #35 on: 06-30-2003 08:08 »

"Bite my shiny metal ass" wouldn't sound as good if he were human.
"I was thinking about some of Bender's jokes that wouldn't work if he was human, but i forget them now". (Australian Guy)
beck

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« Reply #36 on: 07-04-2003 06:51 »

And Bender being a robot, as I heard, helped his creators to get away with all these jokes at cigar-smoking, alcohol-drinking and drug-addicting, which would look insulting if applied to human character.
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« Reply #37 on: 07-08-2003 14:21 »

Just the idea of a robot that is programmed by humans but steals, is a porno-fiend, and open to the same vices as people is funny.

nuff said.
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« Reply #38 on: 07-08-2003 16:39 »

I don't think with a high level of automation humans would be very involved in the creation of new robots.  wink
reverend

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« Reply #39 on: 07-09-2003 11:09 »

Having just seen Anthology ... 2, I can really see how awful Bender's character would be as a human. I mean, I know it was a bit different because he was made human and not born uhmna, but even so, eeeugh.
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