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Fender Bender

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« on: 05-02-2003 21:15 »

i just thot it was weird that in alot of the futurama episodes there is alot of simpsons reference. for example:

a clown looking like Krusty, when New New York is saved from the giant garbage asteroid deal

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in the first episode when Fry gets in that transport deal, and goes underwater and u see Blinkey the 3 eyed fish

and there are alot more....and i didnt no y in Simpsons you never c n e thing that relates to Futurama??
Nixorbo

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« Reply #1 on: 05-02-2003 21:21 »

 
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Originally posted by Fender Bender:
no y in Simpsons you never c n e thing that relates to Futurama??

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JDHannan

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« Reply #2 on: 05-03-2003 03:21 »

nixorbo> lol
Fender Bender> that was not in big piece of garbage, it was when aliens attack
2ndly, that clown looks as much like Krusty as any Matt Groening character looks like any other Matt Groening character.  He has hair on the sides of his head, a red clown nose and a painted face... THATS ANY CLOWN
now, in the case that theres not 1000 posts about simpsons stuff anyway, the reference in big piece of garbage was the bart simpsons dolls
as for futurama appearances in the simpsons, there is one opening scene where the family falls onto the couch thru tubes a la futurama and instead of bart coming out, fry comes out and then gets sucked back up and bart comes out
also, in the episode where homer goes to africa to be a missionary, they're having a pledge drive for FOX at the end and Bender is there answering phones along with a PJ and Rupert Murdoch
Kristi
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« Reply #3 on: 05-03-2003 03:28 »

Bender's also in "Bart vs. Lisa and the 3rd grade".
evan

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« Reply #4 on: 05-03-2003 03:32 »

And there are the Bart and Homer dolls in "Mars University." You can see them when Fry's at Coney Island.
Grim

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« Reply #5 on: 05-03-2003 03:42 »

Wasnt Fry in the background at the race course in that one where they buy a horse
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #6 on: 05-03-2003 05:27 »

There's something in 'Hell is Other Robots' written on a wall like 'HS loves MB', or something like that  smile
Gocad

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« Reply #7 on: 05-03-2003 08:16 »

It was written on a tree...
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« Reply #8 on: 05-03-2003 09:55 »

and the ballon in Leelas Homeworld.....
Shadowstar

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« Reply #9 on: 05-03-2003 12:33 »

Also for Futurama in Simpsons, in "Mayored to the Mob" at the sci-fi convention, Uter is wearing a Futurama t-shirt.
Fender Bender

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« Reply #10 on: 05-03-2003 17:27 »

well it shows how retarded i am, lol
JDHannan

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« Reply #11 on: 05-03-2003 19:03 »

Yes, the futurama shirt is notorious!  i love it! it looks like it was even 3D in a way, because it looked so perfectly written
Fender Bender

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« Reply #12 on: 05-03-2003 23:18 »

yeah it is its great, but i think that FOX should bring it back and have lots of more seasons, wat do ppl not like it cuz its more crude
Venus

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« Reply #13 on: 05-04-2003 00:16 »

Futurama more crude? Then the Simpsons? wha?
::dies of brain overload::
payn
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« Reply #14 on: 05-04-2003 03:26 »

People don't like it because of a hideous scheduling mistake.

Futurama ended up in just about the worst timeslot it could have, and did far better in that slot than Fox thought any show ever could.

An intelligent human being might think, "Wow, this show's on fire, let's give it a real time slot and see if it can make us some real big cash!"

But network programming people don't think that way. Instead, they think, "We can't possibly move Futurama, because any other show we put in that slot probably won't do nearly as well, and that might threaten the miniscule extra profits we make off our expanded Sunday prime time."

Of course Murphy's Law ("Any show which is good enough to be on TV gets cancelled" ) and Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle ("The more you try to fix the quality of a show, the harder it is to fix a timeslot for it" ) come into play.

I can explain how Futurama ended up at 7pm on Sunday, and why that's possibly the worst slot imaginable for it, but why bother? Once they got stuck there, it was over.

Good ratings were proof that they didn't need a better timeslot; later bad ratings were proof that it was time the cancel the show. The end.

Once the semi-intelligent monkey takes over in 1000 years, things should get a little better.
NibblerJr

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« Reply #15 on: 05-04-2003 12:59 »

YEAH! ummmm....
 what now?
JDHannan

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« Reply #16 on: 05-05-2003 20:10 »

yeah, that could be right payn, although i am wont to disbelieve it
LAN.gnome

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« Reply #17 on: 05-12-2003 22:14 »

 
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Originally posted by Gocad:
It was written on a tree...

About the HS + MB thing, it was actually on a wall inside the Love Canal ride or whatever where Robot Hell was, inside a little heart.

Then Jeremy and LAN get stuck in a floating all-girls Catholic school and have to pretend to be gay janitors!
Kristi
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« Reply #18 on: 05-12-2003 22:40 »

Welcome to PEEL, LAN.gnome!  smile
Britz

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« Reply #19 on: 05-13-2003 02:43 »

This sin't really what you're talking about, cause I doubt it was intentional but there was a Simpson's episode I remember watching, an old one long before Futurama where, I swear, a badly drawn Amy was standing in a crowd of reporters, looked just like her except the skin tone was a little off.
The Bender

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« Reply #20 on: 05-13-2003 21:16 »

 
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Originally posted by Kristi:
Bender's also in "Bart vs. Lisa and the 3rd grade".
i saw that episode recently and i dont remember seeing him at all....and belive me if he was in that ep i would have noticed

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« Reply #21 on: 05-19-2003 17:49 »

When bart goes in sane from watching to much tv and starts tripping out in school Bender is one oh the characters who picks up barts desk and carries him around.

By the way anyone notice that is seems in the futurama universe the simpsons is just a tv show and in the simpsons universe futurama is just a show?
JDHannan

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« Reply #22 on: 05-20-2003 03:00 »

although it was the Futurama creator's intention to have the Simpsons just being a show to the Futurama characters, there is no evidence to support that this is true.  Infact there is some evidence to the contrary.  ie the HS + MB carved on something in whatever episode.  fictional characters dont go around carving their initials in the real world.
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« Reply #23 on: 05-20-2003 07:09 »

Actually, I think there is evidence to support Groening's intentions - the dolls at Coney Island and on the garbage asteroid indicate the show was a fictional construct in the Futurama universe.

And that HS + MB is a little gag. You can't say it is Homer Simpson and Marge Bouvier because it's not explicit. It's certainly not evidence.
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« Reply #24 on: 05-20-2003 15:08 »

Lot's of people (mostly young punks with nothing better to do) carve their initials in stuff. My table in elementary school, the toilet on the local train station, one of the seats in the bus I use to work, all of them have some initials or "tag" (as those hip young gogetters call it) scribbled. Usually using a knife, a set of keys or a spraycan.
OC_James

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« Reply #25 on: 05-20-2003 16:56 »

I think that the initials ,considering the show is done by the creators of the Simpsons, are not of some random people but do stand for Homer Simpson and Marge Bouvier. Now I don't think it was thrown in there to make us believe Homer and Marge made it but as a clue as to where the Simpsons live. If you listen to the commentary and watch "Hell is Other Robots" you can clearly see a nuclear power plant. This is even pointed out by David Cohen. Upon being questioned about this, Matt Groening begins to say something but stops himself as if reluctant to go on. As said by Matt himself Futurama is real in their universe and the Simpsons is fake. But I think it's just another clue for Simpson fans. If you bought Season 2 of the Simpsons. Matt says in the introduction that if you watch close enough you can figure out where Springfield is. So Springfield isn't a fictional town like some fans now believe. I noticed in the episode where Bart becomes a boy scout that when they were lost and Bart (or possibly Homer) points out that there is a burger on an oil rig not far away. The oil rig he points to is on the east coast- near New Jersey where "Hell is Other Robots" takes place. Also, in the episode where the Simpsons go to Florida near the end when Homer is marking out the states the family cannot go to New Jersey is to small to see if it has an X on it. When we get a close-up Homer's arm covers the area where New Jersey is. Wow, I really got off point.
LAN.gnome

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« Reply #26 on: 05-21-2003 02:46 »
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There's also a bit of evidence for Matt Groening having set up Springfield as in Oregon, perhaps even as a stand in for Portland, his hometown (and mine!). Matt grew up in Portland, and as many fans know, most of the character's in the Simpsons have last names that are the same as Portland street names (Lovejoy, Wiggum, etc.). Oregon is also home to the former Trojan Nuclear Power Plant, which is/was near Portland and was still in operation when Groening began the Simpsons and probably inspired Groening to creat Springfield's plant. Since so many episodes of the Simpsons feature the loacl beach, the city is probably near an ocean, and could reasonably be in Oregon along the Pacific Coast.

Good evidence there, though, OC_James. That oil rig bit is tough to fit in, not too many of those around here as far as I know. We may never know for sure...
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« Reply #27 on: 05-21-2003 23:26 »

I don't know too many places that are:

A) On the ocean
B) Next to a desert
C) Next to a redwood tree forest
D) Within a day's driving distance of New Jersey and whatever else was on that roadsign in the Homer as an inventor episode
E) Within short driving distance of Las Vegas
F) Require an airline flight to Delaware
G) Are next to at least one really tall mountain
H) Do not reguarly get hit by hurricanes

As someone who lives in New Jersey, I can tell you that items B-H eliminate Springfield from being on the east coast, much less being in New Jersey.  In fact, looking at all these items, I think it's safe to say that Springfield doesn't exist.

And can't the animators just throw something in to make the watchers laugh, for that reason alone?  That's what this HS+MB seems to me, just something to make people laugh, nothing more, nothing less.
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« Reply #28 on: 05-22-2003 04:38 »

The whole "Where Is Springfield" thing is just a joke. It's made up by the writers to annoy the hell out of the fans on the internet. As Nixorbo pointed out, there are plenty of contradictions, but the one I can think of most clearly is this:

In "Boy Scoutz N The Hood", as you say, the river from Springfield leads into the Atlantic, so Springfield must be on the East Coast. However, in "Simpson Tide", the Nuclear Sub leaves Springfield port into the Pacific, so Springfield must be both on the East and West coasts.
Gocad

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« Reply #29 on: 05-22-2003 15:17 »

Behold! Script logic!
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« Reply #30 on: 05-22-2003 16:49 »

 
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Originally posted by LAN.gnome:
There's also a bit of evidence for Matt Groening having set up Springfield as in Oregon, perhaps even as a stand in for Portland, his hometown (and mine!)

Sorry, but Springfield was always intended to be set in an unspecific location - it's not only been said on the Simpsons DVD commentaries, but I heard Matt Groening say it himself when he came to my hometown for an animation festival, and got asked the same question...but isn't this supposed to be about the Simpsons in Futurama?   confused
LAN.gnome

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« Reply #31 on: 05-22-2003 20:37 »
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 Sorry, but Springfield was always intended to be set in an unspecific location - it's not only been said on the Simpsons DVD commentaries, but I heard Matt Groening say it himself when he came to my hometown for an animation festival, and got asked the same question...but isn't this supposed to be about the Simpsons in Futurama?      confused

I guess what I meant was that Groening probably used elements of his hometown when designing parts of Springfield. I don't think Portland is the location myself, anyway. Just an early inspiration.

Edit: Stupid Matt Groening! Why can't his last name be easy to type quickly? Arggh.
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« Reply #32 on: 05-22-2003 22:40 »

This is slowly inching towards "It's Got a TV" material, so any other Simpsons in Futurama?
Silent_G

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« Reply #33 on: 05-23-2003 01:51 »

Oh in "The Springfield Files" the Simpsons episode when Homer thinks he discovered an alien. There is a news report where Kent Brockman says "A man in a coma for 20 years finally wakes up..." and that guy that was in a coma kinda looks like Fry...similar hair style too. Take another look..anyone got a pic?
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« Reply #34 on: 05-23-2003 07:44 »
« Last Edit on: 05-23-2003 07:44 »

Well, here's the pic. Make what you will - I think it's just coincidence.
Gocad

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« Reply #35 on: 05-23-2003 09:08 »

The nose is completely different, compared to Fry's.
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« Reply #36 on: 05-24-2003 04:13 »

Yeah, but this episode predates Futurama anyway.
It was 1st shown in January of 1997.
So maybe early drawings of Fry he looked like that..or Fry was based on this character..
just a theory.
Gocad

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« Reply #37 on: 05-24-2003 04:30 »

 
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just a theory.

a crazy theory...   tongue

btw, ever noticed this in during writing credits for the ToH episode from 1999?

David S. "Watch more Futurama" Cohen

I'm not sure whether if it is correct, but it was something similar.
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« Reply #38 on: 05-25-2003 20:47 »
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without doubt, the Simpson - Futurama transition is obvious, and also, just looking at the way the eyes ( or eye ) on the futurama characters are drawn, it is obvious that Matt asked the creators to make futurama animation simular to the Simpsons, or perhaps it was just the animators?  cool
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« Reply #39 on: 05-25-2003 20:56 »

ya know, Matt does a lot of the artwork for futurama he designed most of the characters so unless he asked him self to make teh animation simular your theory is way off........and what do you mean "he asked the creators of futurama"? Matt is the creator of futurama!!
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