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tome

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« on: 04-24-2002 01:14 »

In "Where No Fan has Gone Before", when fry says the words Star Trek, Bender and Leela go crazy and tell him noever to say that again. If Star Trek is such a taboo, why does Hermes know of it's storyline when he compare's it to DOOP in Brannigan begins Again? He just says it without any care.
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« Reply #1 on: 04-24-2002 02:46 »

He's a bureaucrat. Laws do not concern him. Besides, it was an analogy spoken in private, away from all the flying cameras.

(I'm actually planning on bringing this up in my fanfic. Hints: Hermes' view on personal privacy has already been seen in Bendless Love, and we all know who's company builds those flying cameras.)

Also, since no one seems to give a birdcrap about showing the eps in order of production, one could assume that Where No Fan Has Gone Before takes place shortly after Love's Labour Lost In Space, and Trekkism became a recognized religion immediately thereafter. (Planet of the Clams was a re-release when they went to the movies.)

Weezard? We don' need no steenking weezard!
Gocad

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« Reply #2 on: 04-24-2002 04:57 »

No, you could not. Don't mess with the Production Order! Silence!
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« Reply #3 on: 04-24-2002 07:22 »

BS, not a chance.  Where No Fan Has Gone Before very obviously took place in 3002.  LLLiS took place almost immediately after Fry was unfrozen, in the year 3000.  Also, Trekkism became a religion in the 2300's, right about the time Star Trek was set in.
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« Reply #4 on: 04-24-2002 14:47 »

Oh well, I tried.
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« Reply #5 on: 04-24-2002 14:57 »

 
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Originally posted by BrainSluggo:
we all know who's company builds those flying cameras

Mom's Friendly Survellience Company?

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BrainSluggo

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« Reply #6 on: 04-24-2002 15:35 »

Ah-yup.
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« Reply #7 on: 04-24-2002 17:02 »

Also, in "Space Pilot 3000" Fry says that the door is "Just like in Star Tre-Ow!"  Maybe the door was trying to shut him up?
aslate

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« Reply #8 on: 04-24-2002 17:48 »

Well, they did put loads of stuff that could be followed up into it, or perhaps it was just meant to be a joke? (2nd one)
Gocad

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« Reply #9 on: 04-26-2002 04:56 »

Besides, maybe this Star Trek Taboo is only in effect in selected episodes?
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« Reply #10 on: 05-06-2002 19:09 »

What about Nemoy when Fry says: Do the thing? Maybe there was a little more the: 'I don't do that anymore' than his not having a body. Maybe he he doesn't because he isn't allowed. The signal would probably become a way to distinguish other members, besides dress and obesity, and living in one's parents' basement.
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« Reply #11 on: 05-07-2002 01:32 »

I think the whole "not having any hands" thing is more of a factor there.
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« Reply #12 on: 05-07-2002 05:50 »

That's just his excuse for being incomepetant.
I know it's mine.
payn
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« Reply #13 on: 06-01-2002 18:09 »

I imagine a future where secret Trekkers will have to pretend to be Mork & Mindy fans wishing each other "nanu-nanu" in order to "do the thing" with their hands.

(Hey, why haven't there been any Mork references so far? I can't believe the crew have never been to Ork, or even Colorado.... Shazbot!)
Just Chris

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« Reply #14 on: 06-01-2002 23:59 »

The taboo explains the automatic door hitting Fry in the face too, when he says "Wow, just like in Star Trek."
jasonlevine

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« Reply #15 on: 06-03-2002 15:44 »

 
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Originally posted by tome:
In "Where No Fan has Gone Before", when fry says the words Star Trek, Bender and Leela go crazy and tell him noever to say that again. If Star Trek is such a taboo, why does Hermes know of it's storyline when he compare's it to DOOP in Brannigan begins Again? He just says it without any care.

Didn't Leela tell Fry "That's forbidden here"?  Maybe she meant that discussion of Star Trek was forbidden in video stores (and probably movie theaters, etc, also).

This way they "Internet Nerds" could discuss "Kirk vs. Shatner" and Hermes could refer to the Federation while in Planet Express, but mentioning the word "Star Trek" in a "forbidden place" would bring a visit from the police.

Either that or I'm trying to devise an elaborate explanation to explain inconsistencies in a television show... one of the two.    wink
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« Reply #16 on: 06-03-2002 17:01 »

Maybe it's forbidden to talk about in "public space", ie places were random people meets (sidewalk, restaurants, videostores, parks etc), while it falls under privacy when discussing it in your own house (and PE is the hom of Farnsworth).

And nobody will ever be able to control the Internet completely. So any kind of illegal activity is possible there.

Maybe the authorities have managed to splinter the remnants of StarTrekism into several rival groups (Kirkism, Picardism, Tosism, DS9ism etc). And while they're fighting amongst themselves they're not a threat, and is thus toelrated. The discussion group in "I Dated A Robot" seems to support this theory.

Teral, willing to take any route to make his favourite shows seems logical.  tongue  laff
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« Reply #17 on: 03-19-2005 15:51 »

 
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Originally posted by Gocad:
No, you could not. Don't mess with the Production Order! Silence!

I couldn't agree more
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« Reply #18 on: 03-19-2005 16:04 »

Wow. That was the worst bump I've ever seen.
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« Reply #19 on: 03-19-2005 16:10 »
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You say that every time Nasty.   big grin

Welcome to Peel Krokei,

you see that you replied to a post that has been made 2 years ago. Few of the participants from then don't post here anymore, and these who do, probably don't remember anymore what they stated back then.

That is why you shouldn't reply to such an old thread as long as you don't have to add something more than just a reply.   wink

You may want to learn a few more things about our message board. Few guidelines and facts are written down in the PEELer's FAQ.

After all: Enjoy your stay here at Nerd-world.
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« Reply #20 on: 03-19-2005 16:13 »

 
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Originally posted by germanfryfan:
You say that every time Nasty.    big grin

Yeah, it's lost all meaning by now.
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« Reply #21 on: 03-19-2005 17:54 »

I'm not a Trek watcher, but I have a sort of theory.

Does the law differentiate between old Trek and new Trek? The new cast of Star Trek didn't leave Earth, and Melllvar didn't seem to care about getting Picard or any of the Next Generation episodes - they weren't even in the spaceship. Therefore, Earth could have just banned the original Star Trek, which would allow people to converse about the Next Generation; the government would turn a blind eye to any quick reference like The Federation. When Fry says "The first six Star Trek movies," however, it is obvious that he is referring to the original, verboten Star Trek.
Nerd-o-rama

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« Reply #22 on: 03-19-2005 21:18 »

Nasty: well, at least this thread answers an important question.  Sure, the bump post was pointless, but it's good for newbies to see this rather than remaking the thread.

Nix: Love the old sig.

HB: That's what I thought myself.  True Trekkies - the type that would have founded the religion - prize the original series above all others, and disdain the spinoffs.  Therefore, the government would only have eliminated Trek Classic, hence "The Pepsi Generation," casual references to The Federation, and Johnathan Frakes (best one-liner ever.)
Hedonism Bot

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« Reply #23 on: 03-20-2005 04:11 »

Who's Johnathan Frakes?
CyberKnight

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« Reply #24 on: 03-20-2005 04:58 »

He played Riker in Star Trek : The Next Generation, and also directed First Contact.
Teral

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« Reply #25 on: 03-20-2005 11:06 »

Jonathan Frakes' Star Trek career.

Hey, nice thread. Bring back some memories. Hmmm, should've put in a jab at V'Ger in the above post methinks.
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« Reply #26 on: 03-21-2005 03:09 »

Booo!  wink

Anyway, can't you start taking jabs at Enterprise now?  tongue
Krokei

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« Reply #27 on: 03-21-2005 15:28 »

 
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Originally posted by Nerd-o-rama:
Nasty: well, at least this thread answers an important question.  Sure, the bump post was pointless, but it's good for newbies to see this rather than remaking the thread.

yay! so i don't look stupid!
Teral

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« Reply #28 on: 03-21-2005 17:13 »

 
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Originally posted by CyberKnight:
Booo!   wink

Anyway, can't you start taking jabs at Enterprise now?   tongue

I could (and would) if I'd ever seen a single episode of the show. Though I'm mighty miffed at the Borg and Ferengi episodes, just from hearing about them.

Don't confuse not caring with not knowing!
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« Reply #29 on: 03-25-2005 20:25 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
 I could (and would) if I'd ever seen a single episode of the show. Though I'm mighty miffed at the Borg and Ferengi episodes, just from hearing about them.


Pfft. You call that an excuse? I think you just want to bash Voyager as much as you can.  wink  tongue
David A

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« Reply #30 on: 03-26-2005 00:54 »

Eh, Voyager, Enterprise; they both suck.

At least Enterprise had Andorians.
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« Reply #31 on: 03-26-2005 01:44 »

And TNG had Picard.  Damn I miss TNG  cry
Teral

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« Reply #32 on: 03-26-2005 05:36 »

 
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Originally posted by CyberKnight:
 Pfft. You call that an excuse? I think you just want to bash Voyager as much as you can.   wink   tongue

Bash? After listing dozens of V'Ger episodes I liked. Now DS9, that was the ultimate incernation of Trek. So what if the purist whine about how it "betrayed Roddenberry's vision".  tongue
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« Reply #33 on: 03-26-2005 14:50 »

 
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
BS, not a chance.  Where No Fan Has Gone Before very obviously took place in 3002.  LLLiS took place almost immediately after Fry was unfrozen, in the year 3000.  Also, Trekkism became a religion in the 2300's, right about the time Star Trek was set in.

Actually, while not big deal, WNFHGB is actually in 3003 if you carefully watch the chronology. Melllvarīs table "TrekFestr 3002"
is goof.
winna

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« Reply #34 on: 03-26-2005 15:08 »

You can't prove that...  roll eyes
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« Reply #35 on: 03-26-2005 20:45 »
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It could be 3002 on Melllvar's planet. Who says the years have to coincide with Earth's orbit and dating system? For all we know, he could be using Star Trek chronology or something.
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« Reply #36 on: 03-26-2005 22:00 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
And nobody will ever be able to control the Internet completely. So any kind of illegal activity is possible there.

It is? Woohoo!

kNuLLeD

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« Reply #37 on: 04-03-2005 10:26 »

 
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Originally posted by Hedonism Bot:
I'm not a Trek watcher, but I have a sort of theory.

Does the law differentiate between old Trek and new Trek? The new cast of Star Trek didn't leave Earth, and Melllvar didn't seem to care about getting Picard or any of the Next Generation episodes - they weren't even in the spaceship. Therefore, Earth could have just banned the original Star Trek, which would allow people to converse about the Next Generation; the government would turn a blind eye to any quick reference like The Federation. When Fry says "The first six Star Trek movies," however, it is obvious that he is referring to the original, verboten Star Trek.

True, but in the first episode, Fry asks Leonard Nimoy to "do the thing" and does the Live Long and Prosper symbol, which is most likely a reference to the original Star Trek, as that's where the symbol first began, and he asked Leonard Nimoy (Spock) to do it.
Hedonism Bot

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« Reply #38 on: 04-03-2005 20:31 »

Does the LLP gesture feature in the later Treks?

Also, the security systems might just be keyed up for words, rather than gestures which anybody could make by accident.
Teral

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« Reply #39 on: 04-04-2005 10:15 »

 
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Originally posted by Hedonism Bot:
Does the LLP gesture feature in the later Treks?

Yes. Examples include the TNG episodes "Sarek" and "Unification I", the movie "First Contact" and I'm pretty sure Tuvok used it too. Can't remember an incident on DS9 right now, maybe in "Take Me Out To The Holosuite".
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