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Gwan101

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« Reply #280 on: 07-18-2004 14:23 »

Awesome! I agree with Ouch on the time issue, but you knew that.  smile

I can't wait for the site. Out of curiosity, what will the URL be? Anchoviesforfry.com? We need something simple and easy to remember like that.
Mallzie

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« Reply #281 on: 07-18-2004 19:07 »

 
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Come now, Mallzie... the donation thing was my idea. Gotta give credit where it's due  frown


Spl'oops! I'm really, REALLY sorry Zoidy. I've changed my post accordingly. Your a good person. Who says there are no more heros?
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« Reply #282 on: 07-18-2004 21:13 »

My first time posting in this topic, but I've been following it for a while. Not being American, there's no way I can participate easily, so I'll do my bit by letting a gigantic forum know about this (140440 active members and counting). Only problem is, I'm holding off until there's an actual website. It wouldn't be too impressive if I linked them to this topic.

No real point to this post, just sharing my thoughts and hopefully giving you all yet another incentive to follow this through. I mean, 140440 potential cans of anchovies!

Man, all that food going to waste. If it was anything but anchovies, and for pretty much any cause except for this, I'd feel guilty.
ouch

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« Reply #283 on: 07-18-2004 23:21 »

Mr. Ohanley, that is awesome of you. I mean that. Awesome. And it's also cool that you recognize the importance of our decision to wait until we get the site going.

And don't worry abut food going to waste. As long as they're sealed in their can, someone's gonna eat it.
Scifly

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« Reply #284 on: 07-19-2004 00:30 »

 
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Mr. Ohanley, that is awesome of you. I mean that. Awesome. And it's also cool that you recognize the importance of our decision to wait until we get the site going.

And don't worry abut food going to waste. As long as they're sealed in their can, someone's gonna eat it.

Thats it FOX eat them all up.
  puke

I can only find anchovie paste will that do?

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Zoidberg227

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« Reply #285 on: 07-19-2004 00:35 »

Is that anchovie paste in a small tin, or some sort of package that looks like an anchovie tin?  If so, that'll do.

Also, anchovie paste?  Which crazy supermarket thought people would actually buy that to eat it?
Scifly

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« Reply #286 on: 07-19-2004 00:45 »
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Actually it comes in a small glass jar.  And its sold in alot of places here Woolworths, Coles, BiLo etc.

As for eating it, I wouldn't.    no no
   puke

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ouch

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« Reply #287 on: 07-19-2004 02:15 »

Heck, even a spam can would work. As long as the can is rectangular.
Scifly

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« Reply #288 on: 07-19-2004 05:46 »

Fair enough Mr ouch I'm with you.
kiffan

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« Reply #289 on: 07-19-2004 13:58 »

I'm definetly joining, if I don't get weird questions from my mom on why I want to mail anchovies.  she wouldn't get it.

P. S. last night I had a dream that the 4th season was for sale in the U.S.A.  love

And if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. --Groucho Marx.
Scifly

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« Reply #290 on: 07-19-2004 18:40 »

Cool another soldier for the cause.
Gwan101

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« Reply #291 on: 07-19-2004 19:40 »

So... is the site up?

Gwanny want site up! Want site up now!

Gwanny want go outside! Want go outside now!
el GaZZa

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« Reply #292 on: 07-19-2004 19:43 »

What about egg sandwiches from a vending machine in the men's room of a fuelling station?
Gwan101

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« Reply #293 on: 07-19-2004 21:04 »

Uhhh.... if you know a place that does that... feel free, I guess. o_o

But it would spoil, er, spoil MORE.

Zoidberg227

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« Reply #294 on: 07-19-2004 21:05 »

Well, we don't want to inundate them with smelly things that can escape their packaging.  We just want to inundate them with smelly things that are in nifty little hermetically sealed tins.  Other than anchovies, we're possibly looking at honey and jelly, Manwich cans, dear Robot Santa letters, and other things or products from Futurama.  We'll take all suggestions.

Speaking of suggestions... for the Emmys this year, why not send them the album cover from Fry's holophoner vurtuoso album?  We could even include nifty little burned CDs that actually have Futurama related audio files on them (specifically, the final opera).  Maybe one of us can write and perform "I Want my Show Back" to the same tune as "I Want my Hands Back" (the last song ever).  That way, if someone actually does decide to try it out, he can pop it in his CD player and not think we're trying to send them computer viruses. 
Vida

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« Reply #295 on: 07-19-2004 21:39 »

What about sending postcards?  I’ve worked in several production and casting offices in Los Angeles and I can tell you from experience, postcards are, by far, the best way to get yourself noticed. 

On the front we can put Zeep’s “Angry Futurama Fan’s Anchovies” or GermanFryFan’s “Royal Jelly for Futurama” pictures, and on the back either “DEAR FOX, CONGRATULATIONS TO FUTURAMA FOR WINNING AN EMMY (2EMMY’S)…NOW BRING BACK OUR DAMN SHOW!” or “TOO BAD FUTURAMA DIDN’T WIN AN EMMY.  BUT WE STILL LOVE IT.  PLEASE BRING BACK THE SHOW” (or something like that)

Why a postcard campaign would be effective.
1)Way cheaper than honey or anchovies (only 37cents as opposed to several dollars to ship a package of honey or anchovies)

2)Post cards don’t require return addresses.  So each person can send multiple postcards.  If everybody prints out and sends 100 postcards, that makes it seem like Futurama has 100x more dedicated fans.  For example, instead of 5000 cans of anchovies,--500,000 postcards.  That’s 1/2 a million—and if 1/2 a million can’t get you noticed, then nothing will.  It will look like the courtroom scene from It’s a Wonderful Life

3)Post cards don’t require return addresses.  Because of increased security, a lot of studios and TV production offices won’t open mail if it doesn’t have a return address

4)With a postcard, what you see is what you get…nothing has to be opened and there’s no chance that it WON’T make it overseas if you’re sending it from Europe or Australia.

5)Sending postcards with “Congratulations…now bring back our show” or “Our Sympathies…now bring back our show” is definitely a friendlier gesture than sending fish in the mail.  (Doesn’t the mafia send someone a fish head when they’re about to get whacked?  FOX might get the wrong idea)
Gwan101

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« Reply #296 on: 07-20-2004 00:25 »

They won't get noticed as much.

They are just paper that can be easily thrown away or recycled. Anchovies cant get thrown away as easily, and people are bouned to notice cans of fish rather than paper.

Think of the petition which was 1,000+ pages printed, and they ignored it.

It's too late to change anyway. Just go with what we have. Get your can and be ready by August 10th.
Scifly

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« Reply #297 on: 07-20-2004 00:28 »

You make alot of sense Vida.  I say we send fox fish heads, err, I mean postcards.
Zoidberg227

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« Reply #298 on: 07-20-2004 01:09 »
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I dunno about postcards.  The plan was to send anchovies to the FOX mailroom (their general mailing address), not addressed to anyone in particular.  Even if they don't actually make it to the mairoom, their bound to be noticed (if FOX does indeed pay someone to screen their mail, I'm sure the screeners would report that they recieved a bunch of cans of anchovies, and that they all referenced Futurama). 

As for the letters, we intend to send those to Gail, and if her mail is screened, a few are bound to get through (if the screeners skim over her mail, then they are bound to notice a bunch are about Futurama, and would likely report it). 

We could try this: mail the anchovies as planned, and see what kind of reaction we get.  If it's a negative, then try the next reference with the postcards.  That'll be easier for the space bee honey/royal jelly bit, and certainly be easier than sending a can of Manwich (I have the perfect desktop wallpaper we can use for that, by the way). 

With the postcards, we can send them to the mailroom and to Gail.  That way, if all goes as planned, she'll make the connection between the letters and anchovie cans, and then various postcards arriving in the mailroom and in her office.

p.s.
I like the brainstorming nature this thread has taken on.  It's a good way to get our ideas working on one page.
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Scifly

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« Reply #299 on: 07-20-2004 01:45 »

Has this idea spread to other forums such as this one?
Zoidberg227

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« Reply #300 on: 07-20-2004 01:51 »

There's been some discussion of it on the Adult Swim message boards, but we're holding off on making it a full fledged thread there until we have our site up and running.  I don't know about others, but a good one to spread it to would be Live Journal, because that place gets a lot of traffic.

One of my friends writes a weekly column for a Canadian web journal, and he said he was going to write one for the third of August for some last minute recruiting.  Oh, how I hope we have our site by then so he can link to it.  There is the possibility that they'll host our information there, or that he could just include it as part of the article (outside the main body, of course).  I'll ask him about that as soon as I can.
Gwan101

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« Reply #301 on: 07-20-2004 21:18 »

At this point, I say we HAVE to move the dat back. We are but 2 weeks from the point where we have to send the cans in, and we don't even have a site yet!

So little time...

Or, maybe we do. Ouch, do we? You said that it would be up... yesterday. Or, teh SSF guy did.
ouch

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« Reply #302 on: 07-20-2004 22:02 »

I haven't been able to get a hold of him since. All we can do is wait.
mic

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« Reply #303 on: 07-21-2004 00:22 »

You realise the potential problems with sending perishable food to someone via snail mail is?

The can would be exposed to sunlight, heat, and other things that a can of anchovies shouldn't.  What if one is punctured?  Bacteria could spread, causing outbreaks effecting thousands of people.

There's also legal action to do with this.  PEEL can be held accountable, and I don't think Marc, Slimmy and Jon (aka skinnypuppy/bart182) have very deep pockets.  That'd bring an end to PEEL and CGEF in one hit.  And probably mess them up financially big time.

I would strongly suggest that if you must do this, do not send food or other perisables.  Postcards would be your best option.  Though the anchovies idea is ironic and entertaining, there's great potential for trouble.
Gwan101

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« Reply #304 on: 07-21-2004 00:32 »

Anchovies are not parishable... unless someone actually punctured a hole in the can.

And if it is in an envelope/package, I don't think sun would matter. It would be in a bad or something most of the time anyway.
Zoidberg227

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« Reply #305 on: 07-21-2004 01:25 »

Well, whether or not anchovies are perishable, the USPS does consider all animals, living or dead, to be perishable.  The only restrictions I find on the matter:
  -Sender and adressee must be named (in this case, the adressee is FOX) on the address side.
  -The contents must be labled on the address side. 
  -Anything with liquid contents must be packaged to minimize the possibility of spills.  Though it is unlikely an anchovie can would be comprimised, double bagging it in zip-lock baggies would suffice.

I am absolutely not worried about bacteria.  Something packaged as foodstuffs should be safe to eat.  That means that if the can is compromised, and something bad gets out, the canning/manufacturing company should be the one held accountable. 

All that aside, this does give postcards a point.  They certainly would be easier, cheaper, and no chance of causing physical harm (hey, if you get a paper cut, it's your fault). 

*sigh* Either way, it's just another wrench in the works.  I'm liking the idea of the postcards, but the anchovies would undeniably have a bigger effect.  They are physically larger, and would take more effort to toss out. 

There is one other option that I mentioned before: what about not sending in anchovies, but pasting the lable on a small block of wood about the same shape/size as an anchovie can?  It'll have an initial effect (size and weight) similar to anchovie cans, thus providing that advantage over post cards, but not have any of the suggested dangers of sending food.  What do you all think about that idea?
ouch

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« Reply #306 on: 07-21-2004 01:42 »

Sending unopened anchovy cans simply isn't dangerous. They sit unrefrigerated in the supermarket.
Gwan101

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« Reply #307 on: 07-21-2004 01:49 »

Agh, we CAN NOT start over at this point! Stick with anchovies! We need to hurry as it is. Just spread the word.
Telly

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« Reply #308 on: 07-21-2004 02:38 »

i like the anchovy can thing.

Im in europe. Say when, post the adress and they will get a german anchovy can.

Futurama has to come back.


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Gwan101

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« Reply #309 on: 07-21-2004 02:56 »

This protest isnt to get Futurama back, it's just to let Fox know that we are still pissed about the cancellation.

The address is on page one or two. The standard Fox address.

Call your post office and see how long it would take for a letter to get from where you are to Fox. It has to be there August 10th.
ouch

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« Reply #310 on: 07-21-2004 03:03 »

August 10th? What the? I thought you agreed with me when you said that we had to move the date back!
Telly

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« Reply #311 on: 07-21-2004 04:04 »

I know that this all isnt to get the show back on air.
Gwan101

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« Reply #312 on: 07-21-2004 04:40 »

I agree... but we don't have a set date. Not to mention all the people that disagree with us. :-\

I do think that we need more time, though.
Vida

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« Reply #313 on: 07-21-2004 21:51 »

I think we need to start coming to some decisions---soon.  How about we give ourselves until Midnight on Monday July 26th to come to a decision for:
(1) DATE OF THE MAILING
(2) WHAT WE’RE GOING TO MAIL 
(3) HAVE THE WEBSITE READY 

Then get the word out and start recruiting.  Maybe set up a poll where we can list the pros and cons of all the ideas and people can vote.   

I, for one, think a few days after the Emmy’s would be best.  Think about it, the DVD comes out Aug. 24.  Astounding DVD sales (everyone’s pre-ordered their 4th season DVD from Amazon, right?), followed by an Emmy win, followed by a million cans of fish and/or postcards.  They would be stupid not to pay attention to that.
Mallzie

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« Reply #314 on: 07-21-2004 23:21 »

I'm going to post my two game plans for the consideration of the masses, behold!

A)Anchovies arrive at fox aswell as letters to Gail on the 10th

1)Honey and royal jelly arrives a few days prior to the anouncement of the Emmy winners as well as letters to Gail (and perhaps cards or letters congratulating Futurama for it's nommination)so as to give us a chance to generate some buzz (..ah, puns...)

NO MATTER WHAT I think we should send letters of protest to Gail and Co. for the tenth of August.

Well, decide what you will. I'm going to be out of province for a week and a half so, I don't know when I'll next have internet access. I will, however, check back in on the 1st of August for sure and, if need be, I can send my letters/fish/ect. express. THAT'S how into this I am.

Bye for now!
ouch

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« Reply #315 on: 07-22-2004 03:07 »

Vida, the website's release is in the hands of a man who I can't get a hold of...

This is what I have to say.

1. I prefer to send anchovies over bee-related products mo matter what the date is.

2. Letters have been done before. I won't send letters without also sending something like the anchovies, and I'm not sending a letter twice (That's being more obnoxious than I wish to be).

3.I practically insist that the date is something later than the 10th. 
Vida

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« Reply #316 on: 07-23-2004 21:02 »

Ok, I guess the website may have to wait.  Although I think we can all agree that a website is very important, we might have to find another way to get that done.  Anyone have any ideas?

Ouch-
I think someone mentioned this before, but how doing both?  Sending postcards to Gail and anchovies to the general FOX address on the same date. That way we can be sure that at least one or the other will get through.  (I still kind of worry that after 9/11 anchovies may not make it through the mail or if they do make it though the mail they may not make it past the studio gates.)

At several of the production & casting offices that I’ve worked at, part of my job consisted of taking shopping carts full of unopened mail and throwing them out in the recycling bin behind the building.  But the postcards always got put aside and read because there is nothing to open and you can look at them really quickly.  (These are the types of things you learn from working on the inside  smile)

By the way-labels for anchovy cans and postcards are very easy to make so there’s really not too much work involved to make both.  Any office supply store such as Staples sells blank labels and postcards in all different shapes and sizes.  Print them off on your computer, slap a stamp on them, throw them in the mail and you’re done.  (I can write up more detailed step by step instructions when we decide what we’re going to do.)

As for the date, I think we are in agreement that it has to be after Aug. 10th.  (Because, although the date is significant to us fans, unfortuntley it won’t mean anything to anyone else.  I think a few days after the Emmy’s will have a much greater impact.  (FOX only has 7 Emmy nominations this year—and Futurama got 2 of them.)   
Gwan101

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« Reply #317 on: 07-23-2004 21:46 »

W00t! I'm back.

Ok, The date HAS to be after August 10th, but now we need to get through to those that are confused.

Someone mentioned mail just getting recycled.

You can NOT recycle anchovies. They would have to sort through the mail and find things that can not be recycled, and they would come accross tons of anchovies. That would be noticed.

I'm against sending honey/jelly. Postcards would be ok, but I do not think that we could convince people to go out, buy another item, attach the label, and spend more money to ship it. (Honey/Jelly costs a lot more than anchovies and they are heavier so it would also cost more to ship.)

I think that we should have them arrive on the Emmy date. We seem to agree now. Settled?

And Ouch- any word on that website?
ouch

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« Reply #318 on: 07-24-2004 00:21 »

the webmaster hasn't been answering my emails. He seemed nice, so I'm assuming that he's having computer trouble. At this point I think we should look into finding someone else. I'm going to e-mail the Leela Zone about it.
Zoidberg227

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« Reply #319 on: 07-24-2004 01:25 »

Remember, these are just suggestions; none of this is set in stone.

If we do push the date back, why not August 24th?  FOX is more likely to consider that date significant, since it's when they start raking in cash from the season 4 DVD sales.  That'll give us two more weeks.  Of course, I'm still cool with the Emmy date; I'll do it whenever I need to do it.

As for actual anchovies vs. postcards, why not send both?  The postcards will be there as a backup, so at least something arrives.  And, well, since poscards apparently don't require return addresses, there's no chance of them matching up senders (not that they would go to that trouble, but you never know).

As for a contingency plan for the website failing, the next best option would be either to throw together a quickie on a free webhosting network (better than nothing), or just post on every internet forum we can find, and e-mail every Futurama fansite we know of, encouraging potential AFFers to e-mail us for an information packet on how to get started and what to do.

One more very important thing:
I'll be leaving next Friday for Alaska, and I'll be gone for two weeks, with no contact with the outside world.  So, everyone, just keep that in mind. 
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