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Sm@ Cpt. Libido

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« on: 03-19-2004 17:26 »

I have heard some rumours about a new Matt Groening cartoon that he has already started on for after the Simpsons has finished! If this is more than a rumour i would like to know more about it if anyone knows anything about it! Has anyone else noticed that the simpsons has become boring in these later episodes. Especially the one with Tony Blair!
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« Reply #1 on: 03-19-2004 17:45 »

Oh...Your...God!...
PCC Fred

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« Reply #2 on: 03-19-2004 17:47 »

There were rumours a few years ago about MG making a show about a rock group.  But with Futurama's "failure" (at least in the eyes of FOX), I can't see him getting the chance to make it now.
CrazyDoc

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« Reply #3 on: 03-19-2004 17:51 »

If you want to talk about the Simpsons declining, Libido, then there's a thread in the TV section for it. But expect to suffer a drubbing at the hands of DoTheBartman, Gorky, and me.
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« Reply #4 on: 03-19-2004 17:52 »
« Last Edit on: 03-19-2004 17:52 »

The episode that you're reffering to is "The Regina Monolouges". Personally, I thought that it was a so-so episode, but not the worst of the fifteenth season.

Also, I haven't heard of anything about a new Groening cartoon. Maybe you're confusing him with Seth McFarlene, creator of Family Guy, who has a new show on Fox. Although I can't see how that could be possible, seeing as how Groening and McFarlene are two very different people.

Edit: Nice call on the "drubbing" thing, CrazyDoc.
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« Reply #5 on: 03-19-2004 19:22 »

 
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Originally posted by Gorky:
Also, I haven't heard of anything about a new Groening cartoon. Maybe you're confusing him with Seth McFarlene, creator of Family Guy, who has a new show on Fox. Although I can't see how that could be possible, seeing as how Groening and McFarlene are two very different people.

 Yeah: Matt Groening still has his youth.  cool

DotheBartman

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« Reply #6 on: 03-19-2004 20:45 »

One thing to remember is that McFarlane's "American Dad" actually has not been picked up yet.  "Family Guy" is coming back for sure as far as I know, but AD could just become another pilot that doesn't get picked up.  But we'll see.  Personally I don't particularly care if we ever seen "American Dad".

As for Groening, I can see him doing another show.  Remember, even if it was ultimately seen as a "failure" in its later years Fox DID keep Futurama on for five seasons, which is pretty good for tv standards (as is four seasons if you want to look at in terms of production seasons).  And of course The Simpsons continue to be a mega hit, and the "Olive The Other Reindeer" special was successful enough to be run two years in a row.  Groening has more then proven that he can churn out success for Fox.

But no, Groening doesn't neccasarily have a show in the works right now.  He very well could be in the early planning stages of one and we just don't know it, but otherwise its all just ideas and interview fodder.  But apparently he'd like to do something with rock and roll and/or teenagers.
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« Reply #7 on: 03-19-2004 22:37 »

I haven't heard anything about anything.  If someone has a link to an actual source of information, please post it to prove it.  All I know is my gut says maybe.
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« Reply #8 on: 03-20-2004 01:21 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
There were rumours a few years ago about MG making a show about a rock group.  But with Futurama's "failure" (at least in the eyes of FOX), I can't see him getting the chance to make it now.

I can. FOX let Chris Carter produce Harsh Realm and The Lone Gunmen after Millenium wasn't a hit.

I see Matt Groening following a similar path. He'll get one more chance to create something as popular as The Simpsons. And when it doesn't happen, they'll only let him do Simpsons spin-offs.
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« Reply #9 on: 03-20-2004 01:32 »

I heard the old rumor about the rock music cartoon as well, but there hasn't been anything from it for awhile.  I think Groening may take a break after Futurama, but I guarantee that he'll make at least one more new show before he retires.

By the way, "The Regina Monologues" was definately the worst of Season 15 in my opinion, but The Simpsons has had some very good episodes this season, such as "Milhouse Doesn't Live Here Anymore," "Tis the Fifteenth Season" and "The President Wore Pearls."
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« Reply #10 on: 03-20-2004 06:43 »

  well I heard something around a year back, someone wrote a article about matt and the simpsons they said "when axed about simpsons, matt said that if he gets to 15 sesons he mite consider finishing them off, but dident now if that would be the case." Then in the same article they axed "since your other show Futurama has finished after 5 sesons and if the simpsons finish, would you start a new show."
   In reply matt said "  I have thought a little about this and I would like to do a show thats based around the teenage area, but thats still a long ways off.

  not every thing here is correct but that is the jist of what he said, because theres no way I'd forget a thing like matt makeing another show. what mag it was in i dont now, just something i picked up and read maybe in a barber shop.
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« Reply #11 on: 03-20-2004 16:01 »
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Another Greoning show!   eek
Hmm,maybe the Wailing Fungus spin-off he was talking about in the Bendin' in the Wind audio commentary....   wink
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« Reply #12 on: 03-20-2004 19:44 »

I really liked "The Regina Monolouges". But, anyway somehow I doubt that Groening is going to make yet another cartoon show. And whats this about "American Dad"? I never heard about that before?
DotheBartman

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« Reply #13 on: 03-20-2004 19:47 »

American Dad is a new animated show from Seth McFarlane (creator of "Family Guy" ).  McFarlane has basically admitted that its a rip-off of "All in the Family", but anyway it involves a conservative father who's always bickering with his liberal daughter.  And they have an alien living in their house or some shit.

Again, it may or may not even make it to the air.
J.P. Diddy Wow

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« Reply #14 on: 03-20-2004 19:57 »

Sounds sorta like a combination of "The Family Guy", "The Simpsons" and that comic strip Monty ( or something)
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« Reply #15 on: 03-20-2004 20:44 »

 
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus:
  Yeah: Matt Groening still has his youth.   cool


Seth Mcfarland is FAR younger than Groening, and his stuff is a lot fresher. Besides, Groening recently released information about a Simpsons movie in the works for late next year.

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« Reply #16 on: 03-20-2004 21:51 »

some solid proof would be nice...but it makes sence. groening is a cartoonist..the simpsons is like the most popular chartoon series of all time...maybe appart from loony toons, or some japanese fighting show. but round the states he is. futurama is ace aswell..ofcourse hes going to do what he does till he cieces to be
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« Reply #17 on: 03-21-2004 01:24 »

 
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American Dad is a new animated show from Seth McFarlane (creator of "Family Guy" ). McFarlane has basically admitted that its a rip-off of "All in the Family", but anyway it involves a conservative father who's always bickering with his liberal daughter. And they have an alien living in their house or some shit.

All in the Family meets ALF!
DotheBartman

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« Reply #18 on: 03-21-2004 03:27 »

Heh, actually I think the alien isn't allowed to leave, and his trademark is that he has vices like drinking, smoking, etc.  Sorta sounds like a Bender rip off.
Blackadder11

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« Reply #19 on: 03-21-2004 03:50 »

It seems like all of Seth's cartoon's are rip-offs of other shows.
Gorky

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« Reply #20 on: 03-21-2004 13:56 »

[Scruffy] Second [/Scruffy]

Anyway, I'm really indifferent about another Groening show. If we get one it'd be great. If we don't, there's always still The Simpsons and Futurama.
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« Reply #21 on: 03-21-2004 22:27 »

 
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
  But apparently he'd like to do something with rock and roll and/or teenagers.

So much for my idea...
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« Reply #22 on: 03-22-2004 10:32 »

 
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
American Dad is a new animated show from Seth McFarlane (creator of "Family Guy" ).  McFarlane has basically admitted that its a rip-off of "All in the Family", but anyway it involves a conservative father who's always bickering with his liberal daughter.  And they have an alien living in their house or some shit.

Again, it may or may not even make it to the air.

Mcfarlane copying another show????


you must be kidding

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Sm@ Cpt. Libido

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« Reply #23 on: 03-23-2004 11:55 »

Hey y'all,
The reason i thought about the new groening cartoon is that i think i heard him talking about it in one of the audio commentarys in a season four episode maybe 'Spanish Fry' i can't be bothered to check! I will tho! Later
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« Reply #24 on: 05-26-2004 06:05 »

 
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Originally posted by ActionLaPointe:
the simpsons is like the most popular chartoon series of all time...maybe appart from loony toons, or some japanese fighting show.

or how about mickey mouse the most recognisable cartoon character of all time bringing in the most amount of money a cartoon has ever made? created by walt disney who is also probably the most well known cartoon creater of all time?

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« Reply #25 on: 05-26-2004 10:33 »

Feh, a new Groening cartoon? I dunno if I really want that to happen, I want Futurama to be brought back, to me it just doesn't seem like it should be over yet. *Le sigh*

I don't really think the Family Guy is fresher than Futurama, as a matter of fact I find the show rather drab...it relies on perverted jokes and the same visual gags over and over again...I watched it a few times and found it funny but after a few episodes I started to get bored with it...found it very, very predictable. But that's just me, I'm not bashing on people who like the Family Guy or anything.
Cloud 9

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« Reply #26 on: 05-26-2004 10:41 »

I agree. *dodges flying objects* I think it would be nice if Matt had a new cartoon, but then all his energy would be spent on that, not to mention the Simpsons movie that's still in the works, and there would be even less chance of Futurama returning.  frown

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« Reply #27 on: 05-26-2004 12:30 »
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Originally posted by FishyJoe:
He'll get one more chance to create something as popular as The Simpsons. And when it doesn't happen, they'll only let him do Simpsons spin-offs.
Or not even that. A few years ago he tried to make a 'Teen Homer' spin-off but Fox turned it down because they didn't want another show that they couldn't control.

Having said that I think he'll definately make a few more shows (although possibly not for Fox). It would be nice to see a show based on Life in Hell.

Dannilicious

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« Reply #28 on: 05-26-2004 12:56 »

Maybe I just hate change, but I want more Futurama, not a new show...I suppose if they did both that would be okay, but him working on a new show and losing heart for Futurama would make me pretty sad.
Alee

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« Reply #29 on: 05-26-2004 13:45 »
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Originally posted by Dannilicious:
him working on a new show and losing heart for Futurama would make me pretty sad.

I second that. Maybe I'm na´ve in the ways of television, but there's just got to be another way to keep "Futurama" going; the hell with Fox.

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« Reply #30 on: 05-26-2004 13:57 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
There were rumours a few years ago about MG making a show about a rock group.

Yeah, way back in 2000 when BBC2 did there Simpsons night he said that he wanted to make a show that did to rock and roll what The Simpsons did to the american family and Futurama to sci-fi.

But since then nothing's been said, till now of course.
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #31 on: 05-26-2004 13:58 »

 
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Originally posted by Shaucker:
 Seth Mcfarland is FAR younger than Groening, and his stuff is a lot fresher. Besides, Groening recently released information about a Simpsons movie in the works for late next year.

There's always one person who can't spot a joke when it's right in front of their nose.  roll eyes
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« Reply #32 on: 05-26-2004 14:07 »

 
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Originally posted by Dannilicious:
Maybe I just hate change, but I want more Futurama, not a new show...I suppose if they did both that would be okay, but him working on a new show and losing heart for Futurama would make me pretty sad.

Yes but your not going to get Futurama brought back so surley a new show is better than no new show and how do you even know you wont prefer the new show if it doesn't exist yet.

Coop

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« Reply #33 on: 05-26-2004 15:06 »

 
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Originally posted by Sm@ Cpt. Libido:
I have heard some rumours about a new Matt Groening cartoon that he has already started on for after the Simpsons has finished! If this is more than a rumour i would like to know more about it if anyone knows anything about it! Has anyone else noticed that the simpsons has become boring in these later episodes. Especially the one with Tony Blair!

You don't say?  hmpf
dimension_8

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« Reply #34 on: 05-26-2004 16:41 »

Sounds interesting, if it ever happens.

 
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Originally posted by Sm@ Cpt. Libido:
 Has anyone else noticed that the simpsons has become boring in these later episodes. Especially the one with Tony Blair!

You said it! Loved the first few series but it is now just boring. It is time to put the simpsons to rest.

Sm@ Cpt. Libido

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« Reply #35 on: 05-26-2004 17:10 »

Put it to rest. And hard!
What I believe is that Futurama was the smart mans Simpsons! Simpsons had a huge fanbase before Futurama started! Futurama was never going to be as popular as it! Futurama has a lot more jokes that are based on a certain type of Knowledge for example:
"4 million lines of basic!"
You need to have a basic understaniding of Computer programming to understand! But The Simpsons jokes everyone can understand making it, more boring, but as Fry said:
"Smart things make people feel Stupid!"
Mouse On Venus

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« Reply #36 on: 05-26-2004 17:28 »

Watch it Sm@, you're generalising there. I'd shoot you off your pedestal but I'm not that interested in defending The Simpsons at this moment in time.  tongue
DotheBartman

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« Reply #37 on: 05-26-2004 21:52 »

 
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Originally posted by Sm@ Cpt. Libido:
Put it to rest. And hard!
What I believe is that Futurama was the smart mans Simpsons! Simpsons had a huge fanbase before Futurama started! Futurama was never going to be as popular as it! Futurama has a lot more jokes that are based on a certain type of Knowledge for example:
"4 million lines of basic!"
You need to have a basic understaniding of Computer programming to understand! But The Simpsons jokes everyone can understand making it, more boring, but as Fry said:
"Smart things make people feel Stupid!"

The Simpsons has obscure references to just about anything imaginable, inluding things far more obscure then a line about basic (Futurama has far more geeky jokes then that anyway.  Just listen to the commentaries for mentions of some really obscure mathematical jokes.  The "Basic" line really is "basic" and easy to understand with even a small amount of knowledge about programming).  So it balances out.  Plus IMO, with the possible exception of "Godfellas" The Simpsons at its best is a far better satire/social commentary then Futurama usually was.

But enough bickering about either one.  The ultimate truth is that both are among the most sophisticated shows on tv.
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« Reply #38 on: 05-28-2004 00:20 »

Earlier in the thread, there was a quote abot Groening making a show that is more teenage-oriented.. If I trusted anyone to make a show about younger people, Groening is it. The Life in Hell strips where he writes about his childhood and college years are among the best. I'd like to see that from him..
Dannilicious

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« Reply #39 on: 05-28-2004 09:08 »
« Last Edit on: 05-28-2004 09:08 »

 
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Originally posted by User_names_suck:
 Yes but your not going to get Futurama brought back so surley a new show is better than no new show and how do you even know you wont prefer the new show if it doesn't exist yet.



I actually think there IS a small chance that we will get more Futurama someday, though the chance is small. Anyway, I'm just saying that's what I would rather in a perfect world. That I ran. And stuff.


EDIT: OH. MAN. Evil Lunch, I LOVE your new avatar. *Dies laughing* I love you, man.
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