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ratm9200

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« Reply #40 on: 10-12-2003 18:41 »

 
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Originally posted by Frymeister:
 Her voice was bad, though.


I thought she did a good job singing, not as good as billy, who is usually terrible, but it wasnt paricularly bad.


Frymeister

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« Reply #41 on: 10-12-2003 18:42 »

Yes it was.  puke
CyberKnight

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« Reply #42 on: 10-12-2003 19:26 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
All those who are bitching about "The Devil's Hands...", watch the final episode of Sliders.  There's a great example of how to make a final episode fail on every conceivable level.

Or "Endgame".

*shudder*.

And I honestly didn't think her singing was that bad.

Frymeister

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« Reply #43 on: 10-12-2003 19:27 »

ok fine, but it was a little bad, you have to admit, right?
Wesley

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« Reply #44 on: 10-12-2003 19:29 »

 
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Originally posted by Rocketboy:
I thought it was good, But is Leela still deaf? Does Bender have an ass? Does Calculon have any ears? SO MANY QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pretty sure that once the Robot Devil got his hands back, everything went back to normal.  Notice how Leela no longer has Calculon's ears in the last scene.
The Master Con
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« Reply #45 on: 10-12-2003 19:30 »

 
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Originally posted by CyberKnight:
 Or "Endgame".

*shudder*.

And I honestly didn't think her singing was that bad.


You mean Endgame from Reboot?
Teral

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« Reply #46 on: 10-12-2003 19:40 »
« Last Edit on: 10-12-2003 19:40 »

"Endgame" from Star Trek: Voyager.

 
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Originally posted by Frymeister:
ok fine, but it was a little bad, you have to admit, right?

[Koenig]No.[/Koenig]
Frymeister

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« Reply #47 on: 10-12-2003 19:43 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:

 [Takei]No.[/Takei]
Yes.

ratm9200

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« Reply #48 on: 10-12-2003 19:46 »

im with teral, there was nothing wrong with her singing

by the way: whats [takei]
Frymeister

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« Reply #49 on: 10-12-2003 19:49 »

I'm not sure either, and I'm against ratm9200 and Teral, there is something wrong with her voice.
Teral

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« Reply #50 on: 10-12-2003 19:54 »

What is it you find so horrible about it? I find it pretty good. Certainly better than West and most of theo others.

 
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Originally posted by ratm9200:
im with teral, there was nothing wrong with her singing

by the way: whats [takei]

That was me making an embarassing mistake. It should've been [Keonig][/Koenig] (and now rightfully is  wink ).

After Walter Koenig who played Pavel Chekov on Star Trek. The idea is the "no" is pronounced the same way Koenig said "no" when Fry asked him to say "nuclear vessels" on "Where No Fan Has Gone Before".

Frymeister

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« Reply #51 on: 10-12-2003 20:00 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
What is it you find so horrible about it? I find it pretty good. Certainly better than West and most of theo others.

I think she hit the wrong notes and it sounded bad.
SuperFry

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« Reply #52 on: 10-12-2003 20:19 »

[everybody]NO she sounded great[/everybody]
PCC Fred

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« Reply #53 on: 10-12-2003 20:29 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
After Walter Koenig who played Pavel Chekov on Star Trek. The idea is the "no" is pronounced the same way Koenig said "no" when Fry asked him to say "nuclear vessels" on "Where No Fan Has Gone Before".

Don't you mean "nuclear wessles"?  wink

Katey Sagal has a great singing voice.  End of Story.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #54 on: 10-12-2003 21:56 »

I thought it was a very appropriate finale.  It stands on its own as a very creative and hilarious episode, and the ending works as something that is touching and provides some closure, but at the same time doesn't go too far (having them get together or even not get together would be too much) and just lets you write the ending in your mind.  I always like endings like that, as long as they aren't TOO ambiguous (here they give you something to work with in terms of inventing your own continuation).

Oh, and can someone tell me what made it "out of character" anyway?  Maybe Bender wasn't as crass as in some episodes (his most crass side wouldn't work in the context of this episode though, admit it), but everyone else seemed fine.

Regarding Why of Fry, I dunno..."Devil's Hands" isn't even my fave episode anyway (18 or 19th on the list I'd say), but Why of Fry could've been better.  Don't get me wrong, it was enjoyable, but while the story was very cool, the humor wasn't nearly as good.
John C
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« Reply #55 on: 10-12-2003 22:16 »

I think the most out of character thing was Leela going "Me? Really?!" in that cringe-inducing Disney princess sort of way. That was my least favorite part of the episode, and I really wonder what they were thinking when they put that in.
Frymeister

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« Reply #56 on: 10-12-2003 22:37 »

That insectoid leg she was eating was gross.
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #57 on: 10-12-2003 22:43 »

I think the only out of character part was the opera. But that's what makes it stand out. And standing out makes it a finale. Plus I know you all looove songs, don't you?  wink
Asylum-Fry

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« Reply #58 on: 10-12-2003 22:50 »
« Last Edit on: 10-12-2003 22:50 »

 
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Originally posted by SuperFry:
[everybody]NO she sounded great[/everybody]

She hit these unbearably high notes that were off-key. If she'd just hit one or two notes higher than the line before, like I was expecting, it would have sounded all right.

And in response to whoever said Billy West couldn't sing well (or whatever) - he was the best singer out of all of them, in my opinion! I thought he really did a wonderful job as Fry in the opera.

Lastly, out-of-character stuff... if Leela didn't accept Fry before, why would an opera about her suddenly change her mind? Fry was still the same stupid Fry he always was! Unless Leela wanted to be a spoiled brat and toy with Fry in order to get the opera made about her and then dump him later (wait a sec, they never even went out? Fry, you dope!). We all know Bender wasn't up to his standards, and Fry was behaving oddly as well (just noticably). We barely saw any of the rest of the characters, so I can't say how off they were.

Go ahead and argue with me. I love a challenge.

EDIT: I find the 'off-key singing' topic worthy of a discussion thread in the Human Resources forum... any objections?
John C
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« Reply #59 on: 10-12-2003 22:52 »
« Last Edit on: 10-12-2003 22:52 »

 
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Originally posted by Futurama_Hil:
I think the only out of character part was the opera. But that's what makes it stand out. And standing out makes it a finale. Plus I know you all looove songs, don't you?

I wouldn't really call it out of character. They sang in "Hell is Other Robots", which makes me think the Robot Devil can emit some sort of song-inducing radio waves, or something.

 
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Originally posted by Asylum-Fry:
Lastly, out-of-character stuff... if Leela didn't accept Fry before, why would an opera about her suddenly change her mind? Fry was still the same stupid Fry he always was!

If someone wrote an opera for you, wouldn't you go out with them?
Frymeister

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« Reply #60 on: 10-12-2003 22:59 »
« Last Edit on: 10-12-2003 22:59 »

 
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Originally posted by Asylum-Fry:
  She hit these unbearably high notes that were off-key. If she'd just hit one or two notes higher than the line before, like I was expecting, it would have sounded all right.


Finally someone agrees with me that her singing sounded bad.

Asylum-Fry

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« Reply #61 on: 10-12-2003 23:03 »

 
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Originally posted by John C:
  If someone wrote an opera for you, wouldn't you go out with them?

*impression of the guy in the Luna Park line*

Eeeeuum, uhhhhm, NO!

I don't like operas, and I'd rather that my life be kept personal. Who wants their story being played out by weird people in crappy costumes (I found those big head masks rather low-budget looking), even if it's not even your life story at all?

Now, I'd go out with Fry well before he decides to impress me that far. He's too good for Leela, I'll take him instead   flirt
Frymeister

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« Reply #62 on: 10-12-2003 23:04 »

Sick-o!
ratm9200

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« Reply #63 on: 10-12-2003 23:30 »

 
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Originally posted by Asylum-Fry:Now, I'd go out with Fry well before he decides to impress me that far. He's too good for Leela, I'll take him instead    flirt


i have too agree with the him being to good for leela part.  Fry does so much for her and she just kinda teases him back.  She's a friggin cyclops, she she should be glad that ANYONE loves her.
Venus

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« Reply #64 on: 10-12-2003 23:57 »

wow. thats kinda cruel ratm9200. Aren't you the gentle sensitve soul.
Frymeister

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« Reply #65 on: 10-12-2003 23:58 »

 
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Originally posted by ratm9200:
 
i have too agree with the him being to good for leela part.  Fry does so much for her and she just kinda teases him back.  She's a friggin cyclops, she she should be glad that ANYONE loves her.
I agree, if Leela doesn't like Fry she's screwed because no one else loves her.(besisdes Zapp)
Asylum-Fry

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« Reply #66 on: 10-12-2003 23:59 »

 
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Originally posted by ratm9200:
 
i have too agree with the him being to good for leela part.  Fry does so much for her and she just kinda teases him back.  She's a friggin cyclops, she she should be glad that ANYONE loves her.

Right on. Her pride and standards get in the way of realizing that Fry is the one person that can and will do anything for her. He's moved the stars, saved her life, what more can she ask for?

I don't like Leela.
Frymeister

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« Reply #67 on: 10-13-2003 00:04 »

In the Sting, Fry even waited for 2 straight weeks for her!
Venus

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« Reply #68 on: 10-13-2003 00:11 »

yes, he has done a lot for her, but theres one thing you are not taking into consideration. You can not turn love on and off like a light switch. If she doesn't love him theres nothing he or even she can do about it. I speak from experiance here. I too have been on the receiving end of unrequited love, and you know what? It really sucks. Especially if the guy in question really is a nice guy. It really makes you feel guilty. Note the look on Leela's face in Farsworth parabox when it is reveiled to Fry that she was giving him the brushoff. She looked guilty as hell. It's not a pride thing, her standards aren't too high, people fall in love with mates that wouldn't normally fit into their standards all the time. Sure you have your list of what your looking for but in the end you have no real control over who you fall in love with. Like Sean. She full out admits that he wasn't within her usual standards but she loved him anyway.
Asylum-Fry

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« Reply #69 on: 10-13-2003 00:39 »

I love talking about things I don't understand. That way, someone who does understand comes along and explains it to me.

Still, I'm never going to feel love or recieve it my whole life, so I'll never get the real experience.

Venus: I'm an idiot, I never know what I'm talking about. Arguments merely intrigue me.
Frymeister

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« Reply #70 on: 10-13-2003 00:43 »

I don't understand half the arguments on PEEL.
Venus

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« Reply #71 on: 10-13-2003 00:55 »

 
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Originally posted by Asylum-Fry:
I love talking about things I don't understand. That way, someone who does understand comes along and explains it to me.

Still, I'm never going to feel love or recieve it my whole life, so I'll never get the real experience.

Venus: I'm an idiot, I never know what I'm talking about. Arguments merely intrigue me.

ok, your sarcasm i get, the actual point, not so much. Feeling love or receiving love wasn't what i was talking about, what i was talking about was not being able to force yourself to love someone you don't. And i never implied you were an idiot. If that's how i came off i apologize for that. All i meant was that you were only looking at things from Fry's perspective and not from Leela's. And having been somewhat in Leela's situation i can emphasize with her so when people start the whole "she needs to get down off of her high horse" argument i'm going to step in and say my piece. Because claiming its all about pride and standard with her implies that every woman who for whatever reason can't make themselves love someone even though that person is a real great person is a heartless bitch who should just suck it up and take what she can get. Which i know from personal experiance isn't always the case.
Robiben

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« Reply #72 on: 10-13-2003 00:55 »

 
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Originally posted by Asylum-Fry:
Still, I'm never going to feel love or recieve it my whole life, so I'll never get the real experience.

I think thats a bit of a harsh comment to say about yourself. To say you'll never feel or recieve love is like saying you never take a breath.

Everyone at one point in their life will feel love. Be it from family, friends or a partner. Its an insainly strong human emotion that cant really be taken away from you.

Now im no poet. I cant discribe in a million words what love is. All i know is its strong and when someone tries to take it away from you it hurts. Real bad. But being in love is good. Real good.

Thats what is awsome about the romantic quality of Futurama. The love story between Leela and Fry is something that makes me tingle all over. its very hard for me to explain so i really just go with the flow.

Thats why the last episode was so good. Because you finally saw Fry and Leela embrace their love. And in, my mind at least, that is why Devils Hands was probably the best final episode i have ever seen.

Anyway thats my rant. Hope i didnt bore you all.
thecrashtd

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« Reply #73 on: 10-13-2003 01:01 »

I saw the season finale today. It was a sad ending. But I thought that Bender, Zoidberg and the other chacters had horrible exits/last-moments on the show
Asylum-Fry

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« Reply #74 on: 10-13-2003 01:06 »

Venus: I was implying that I was an idiot for trying to talk about something I didn't understand. And there was no sarcasm in that post.

Robiben: I'll die of suffocation, then. I'm not the warm and fuzzy, friendly, cheerful type, and I have no social charm at all. Even my family despises me to a certain extent. Not a harsh comment to make, considering how true it is.
ratm9200

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« Reply #75 on: 10-13-2003 01:09 »

 
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Originally posted by thecrashtd:
I saw the season finale today. It was a sad ending. But I thought that Bender, Zoidberg and the other chacters had horrible exits/last-moments on the show

didnt think about that untill now, and yeah they really do.

Robiben

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« Reply #76 on: 10-13-2003 01:12 »

 
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Originally posted by Asylum-Fry:
I'll die of suffocation, then. I'm not the warm and fuzzy, friendly, cheerful type, and I have no social charm at all. Even my family despises me to a certain extent. Not a harsh comment to make, considering how true it is.

Well then you would already be dead. Like i said in my previous post i dont understand love. I mearly know it exsists. And that everyone feels it.

If your previous post wasnt laced with sarcasm, which you say it isnt, then i have to say you are wrong. You say your family dont love you. i find that hard to believe. And so what about being an anti-social person. You still have friends. And they love you. It is a differnet kind of love but it is still love.

Anyway thats what i think and im sticking with it.

Venus

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« Reply #77 on: 10-13-2003 01:15 »

oops, sorry AF i guess i just read your post with the wrong tone. If you read it the right way it does sound rather sarcastic. Such is the peril of the message board, you can't read the other persons body language and voice tone through text. My bad.
Asylum-Fry

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« Reply #78 on: 10-13-2003 01:17 »
« Last Edit on: 10-13-2003 01:17 »

Well, I meant the sort of love that bonds together two people and let them have 'feelings' for each other. I don't think I'll ever get to experience that, and I never have yet anyway.

Venus: It was an easy mistake to make, as I always tend to be sarcastic. No problem.

EDIT: Things have changed, actually...   love
Robiben

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« Reply #79 on: 10-13-2003 01:23 »

 
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Originally posted by Asylum-Fry:
Well, I meant the sort of love that bonds together two people and let them have 'feelings' for each other. I don't think I'll ever get to experience that, and I never have yet anyway.

Again i think you are wrong. Even if you havent felt it yet you WILL feel it. It is a human emotion that life is empty without.

I should probably just shut up before i put my foot into my mouth. Im no good at explaining things so i'll just leave it at that.

All i know is that you will someday find it. And i wish you luck when you do.
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