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Coop

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« Reply #40 on: 07-08-2003 13:47 »

I think them ost important thing is what the theme is. Futurama was great because it was futuristic and made everything possible. Simpsons is cool because..well, I cant explain that one. I just dont know where he could possibly go now. Hes gone to space and a futuristic time, and hes done the present, with a modern disfunctional family. Whats left? I wonder.


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less than hero

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« Reply #41 on: 07-08-2003 13:51 »

yeah, Groening says in the featurette on the season one dvd that he likes to take one topic and do all sorts to it.  He did to the future what he did to the american family, and I'm sure the great shows will just kepp comin'.  By the way, Do I EVER make any sense??????
less than hero

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« Reply #42 on: 07-08-2003 13:52 »

By the way, I'm well aware of the fact that I spelt KEEP as KEPP.  Sorry...
M Jackson
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« Reply #43 on: 07-08-2003 19:01 »

Are you 'well aware' that you DOUBLE POSTED!!!!!!
The ULTIMATE Crime!!!!!!!

"DEATH, DEATH TO THE DOUBLE POSTER, DEATH BY SNU-SNU!"
bankrupt

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« Reply #44 on: 07-08-2003 23:38 »

 
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Originally posted by Coop:
I think them ost important thing is what the theme is. Futurama was great because it was futuristic and made everything possible. Simpsons is cool because..well, I cant explain that one. I just dont know where he could possibly go now. Hes gone to space and a futuristic time, and hes done the present, with a modern disfunctional family. Whats left? I wonder.


Good point.  The more I think about it, the more I'm saddend and pissed off that Futurama has been canceled.  There's just so much flexibility to the type of stories that can be written for Futurama that I find it hard to imagine a new show being able to match it.  I'm pretty sure MG's new show will be good, but I don't know about Futurama good.
Coop

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« Reply #45 on: 07-09-2003 00:04 »

 
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Originally posted by bankrupt:
 Good point.  The more I think about it, the more I'm saddend and pissed off that Futurama has been canceled.  There's just so much flexibility to the type of stories that can be written for Futurama that I find it hard to imagine a new show being able to match it.  I'm pretty sure MG's new show will be good, but I don't know about Futurama good.

Exactly, I couldnt imagin a new show having as much flexibility as futurama.


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Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #46 on: 07-09-2003 08:59 »

I totally agree bankrupt!
M Jackson
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« Reply #47 on: 07-09-2003 13:39 »

When we first heard the Matt had 'some new sci-fi show' coming out, we all said, it will probably be good, but it won't match The Simpsons. Well we were proved wrong, so have faith for another new show.
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #48 on: 07-09-2003 13:57 »

Nah, I think it will be good, but still, I highly doubt it could top Futurama.  Futurama hits that sweet spot, the spot where you get what you want in a show.
aussie dude

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« Reply #49 on: 07-09-2003 14:47 »

hey how bout a show set in prehistoric times where all current technology exists but using primitive components i really think if this was done properly it could be the second longest running animated series in tv history wait a minute.... this sounds all too familiar
Forget i said anything
M Jackson
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« Reply #50 on: 07-09-2003 17:02 »

Yaba Da ba Do! That's a great idea! I don't think it's been done before? The characters could be a 'modern stone-age family', they'd have a yaba do time, a daba do time, a gay old tiiiiiiiiiiiiime.
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #51 on: 07-09-2003 17:13 »

*sigh*  I don't make fun of that show cause that's what introduced me to Futurama.   (I just said that regardless if you were dissing it or not) Besides, it was a revolution in animation somehow. 

M Jackson
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« Reply #52 on: 07-09-2003 17:43 »

I wasn't making fun of The Flinstones, those are the lyrics "a gay old time". It's a great old show.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #53 on: 07-09-2003 20:10 »

 
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Originally posted by Futurama_Hil:
Nah, I think it will be good, but still, I highly doubt it could top Futurama.  Futurama hits that sweet spot, the spot where you get what you want in a show.

If you ask nicely, I'll show you a different kind of "sweet spot".  flirt
zoidyzoid

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« Reply #54 on: 07-09-2003 20:20 »

 
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Originally posted by reverend:
My questions are these. Since Groening has indicated that he is working on new show concepts do you 1. Think that there is a strong likelihood that a new show would be good? 2. Prefer the idea of a good new show to more episodes of futurama? 3. Think that David X Cohen might be involved?

Just say what you think. Don't feel restricted by my questions (as if you would).   eek


1. I'm sceptical, but probably was when I first heard of Futurama, so that doesn't mean much. It'd be kind of exciting, anyway.
2. No way, but it's not like we're going to get more Futurama episodes. A new Groening show would be better than nothing.
3. I certainly hope so, otherwise my answer to question one is 'no'.

And I haven't read much of this thread, so this has probably been answered already, but when did Matt indicate that he is working on new show concepts? Is there an interview you could link to?
reverend

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« Reply #55 on: 07-10-2003 06:38 »

I don't know how to link but here's the bit I read:
JP: So what would you do instead? Have you got anything else up your sleeve?

Groening: I have got other projects in mind, I think, what I try to do is always keep in mind my relationship with the audience, that is who I really care about.

JP: What sort of projects?

Groening: I have got a couple of other animation TV shows that I am moulding right now, doing some research, and we'll see. It is really difficult to invent a world and sell it and get it off the ground, so I will see if anyone wants them.

JP: Would they be like The Simpsons?

Groening: They will be similar in sensibility to The Simpsons and Futurama. They will look like relatives of the characters, with the mouth overbites.

JP: Could you give me any idea about what sort of programmes they would be, where they would be set?

Groening: (laughs) No I couldn't do that.


 I'll give the address of the interview as well: http://www.computercrowsnest.com/sfnews2/02_june/news0602_5.shtml

It seems other have gone beyond me anyway and found a site on which Matt says he's working on a rock 'n' roll show. I have to say I find this slightly suspect in light of what he says above, but I'm sure they're only reporting what they've seen. Can anyone tell us where that interview was?
Killerfox

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« Reply #56 on: 07-10-2003 12:46 »

well by this i am not saying that it is ok to cancell futurama but i think we all have to move on to new things , life goes on and we cant stay in the past forever i say this new show is gonna be great doubting it will top futurama.
aussie dude

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« Reply #57 on: 07-10-2003 14:14 »

i say we there is nothing wrong with living in the past especially considering living in the past in this situation means 1000 years into the future. I for one say we shouldnt give up i mean after all the star trek fans never gave up and look at them now what is 9?,10? movies and 5 series ST, STNG, STDS9, STV and STE who knows what can happen if we stay strong
Xmpel

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« Reply #58 on: 07-10-2003 17:53 »
« Last Edit on: 07-11-2003 00:00 »

 
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Originally posted by aussie dude:
i say we there is nothing wrong with living in the past especially considering living in the past in this situation means 1000 years into the future. I for one say we shouldnt give up i mean after all the star trek fans never gave up and look at them now what is 9?,10? movies and 5 series ST, STNG, STDS9, STV and STE who knows what can happen if we stay strong

Little offtopic but thats 10 movies + many more to come. It's supposed to be "ST TNG". And I've heard rumors about another Star Trek show that takes place in the Academy.

And the moral of the story is that we can't give up hope. Maybe the next series will be a Futurama sequal with the name 'Doomsville' wich was one of the potential names for Futurama. Or maybe even 'Futurama The Next x33 Generation' =)

[Edit] They also had ST TAA (The animated adventures) featuring such classics as " The trouble with tribbles"  smile

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Coop

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« Reply #59 on: 07-10-2003 18:31 »

 
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Originally posted by Xmpel:
 Little offtopic but thats 10 movies + many more to come. It's supposed to be "ST TNG". And also I've heard rumors about another Star Trek show that takes place in the Academy.

And the moral of the story is that we can't give up hope. Maybe the next series will be a Futurama sequal with the name 'Doomsville' wich was one of the potential names for Futurama. Or maybe even 'Futurama The Next x33 Generation' =)



Well, in all fairness, you cant really compare the star trej fanbase with the futurama fan base. But you're right, theres still hope. What was the other title? Hello mars? something like that.


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M Jackson
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« Reply #60 on: 07-10-2003 19:01 »

Aloha Mars. I don't think that's spelt right?
Futurama_Hil

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« Reply #61 on: 07-10-2003 19:44 »

It is.
emanon

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« Reply #62 on: 07-10-2003 19:56 »

1. NO   no no
2. NO   no no
3. NO   no no

because if Fox is involved we're all PHUCKED  up yours

p.s I REALLY  REALLY  REALLY  REALLY  REALLY  REALLY  REALLY  REALLY DISLIKE fox!!!

Killerfox

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« Reply #63 on: 07-10-2003 20:49 »

i said clearly that i dont want Futurama cancelled or that i am glad about it its just that its ok to have new things.
reverend

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« Reply #64 on: 07-11-2003 04:45 »
« Last Edit on: 07-11-2003 04:45 »

As to the third question, since David X was involved in The Simpsons, and since, last night, I heard him say on a commentary "Coolio, were going to cast you in our next animated series", I think the answer is becoming clear
DanceCommander

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« Reply #65 on: 07-11-2003 19:48 »

Are you referring to the season 3 easter egg. I love that. It's just how I imagined DXC to be!
DotheBartman

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« Reply #66 on: 07-12-2003 04:23 »

 
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Originally posted by reverend:
As to the third question, since David X was involved in The Simpsons, and since, last night, I heard him say on a commentary "Coolio, were going to cast you in our next animated series", I think the answer is becoming clear


Without having seen that myself, I think we can assume that Cohen was probably joking.
aussie dude

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« Reply #67 on: 07-12-2003 16:27 »
« Last Edit on: 07-12-2003 16:27 »

as long as dxc and mg are involved i will give the show a chance cause it takes a while for the shows to find there feet and the netwroks dont always seem to give them a good chance.
If the new show turned out to be a spin off show (not a hope in hell) do you think any of the characters could pull it off? Sorry if this is already a thread somewhere just point the way and i'll read for myself
reverend

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« Reply #68 on: 07-17-2003 11:14 »
« Last Edit on: 07-17-2003 11:14 »

I think there is a thread for that somewhere in the Human Resources dep. In reply to Dothebartman, I know Cohen was joking aboput Coolio but I think the easy manner in which he said "our next animated show" definitely indicates that he believes this a real possibility. And why shouldn't it be? He could have said "if we ever do another animated show together" and it would have sounded just as natural, but not as confident.
Damitol

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« Reply #69 on: 07-17-2003 14:38 »
« Last Edit on: 07-17-2003 14:38 »

It's like when your dog or cat dies.  You mourn the loss, but eventually get a new puppy or kitten.  The new pet doesn't replace the old one in your heart, but that doesn't keep you from loving the new one as much as you did the old.

I will give a fair chance to anything Groening or Cohen gets on the air.  I am prepared to worship anything with both Groening and Cohen's names attached to it. Sprinkle it with generous helpings of the writers, animators and voice actors from Futurama, and I just may find a new best friend.

Yeah, it's only a TV show - but dammit - it's one of the very, VERY few TV shows I ever really cared about.
BrainDeadZombie

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« Reply #70 on: 07-17-2003 22:08 »

 
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Originally posted by Xmpel:
 
[Edit] They also had ST TAA (The animated adventures) featuring such classics as " The trouble with tribbles"   smile



This is really sad of me, but...

(Nerd voice) Erm... I think you'll find that the Trouble With Tribbles (snort) is an original live action Star Trek story (laughs in snorty way)

(Back to regular still a nerd but with nerdiness better disguised, at least until you know me, voice)
I don't know which animated story you're thinking of. Is their someone out there who knows? You could be nerdier than me!

Anyhoo, this message was a bit off-topic.

New show? Yeh, why not. Got to move with the times, but don't end Futurama because it has years left in it, and the Simpsons hasn't gone downhill, as much as people make out either.


NoAPOlogies

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« Reply #71 on: 07-17-2003 22:24 »

Good questions

1) Man I hope so, it seems that everything Groening touches turns to gold. I don't think they'll show it on Fox since Fox is owned by assholes. Maybe on TNN or something, but not Fox. I wonder what genre of cartoon it would be? He's done two sit-com styles with The Simpsons and Family Guy, he did a Sci-Fi show; Futurama, I wonder what could be next?

2) It would have to be one HELL of a good show  to top Futurama.

3) DXC is one of the great writers in the world today, period. Without him, Groening will struggle through any new endeavors.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #72 on: 07-18-2003 04:54 »

 
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Originally posted by NoAPOlogies:
Good questions

1) Man I hope so, it seems that everything Groening touches turns to gold. I don't think they'll show it on Fox since Fox is owned by assholes. Maybe on TNN or something, but not Fox. I wonder what genre of cartoon it would be? He's done two sit-com styles with The Simpsons and Family Guy, he did a Sci-Fi show; Futurama, I wonder what could be next?

2) It would have to be one HELL of a good show  to top Futurama.

3) DXC is one of the great writers in the world today, period. Without him, Groening will struggle through any new endeavors.

For number one: Why do you think Family Guy was Groening's making?  Fun show, but he had nothing to do with it.

Numer two: agreed, but its still possible.  And as Damitol said, it doesn't have to "replace" Futurama either.

Number three: I'm honestly just not understanding this argument (note: this is for all the people saying this, not just you).  Yes, Cohen is a great writer and producer.  But first off, Groening DID start up The Simpsons with Brooks and Simon, not Cohen, and that had far less "struggling" in terms of its financial success.  And Cohen isn't the be all end all god of show makers.  There are plenty of other great writers and producers out there (many of whom probably haven't had their skill tapped just yet), not to mention lots of great Simpsons and Futurama producers he could start something up with as well.  As I said, Groening chose Cohen largely because he felt Cohen was (at least among the "Simpsons" staff at the time) the best person for the job of helping him launch a sci-fi spoof/comedy.  But if he, say, entertained this notion of a rock and roll based show, he'd probably pick someone completely different (perhaps a rock and roll geek, maybe?).  If Cohen is involved, then great, but I think people need to be more open minded about anything that doesn't have Groening and Cohen's names stamped on them.
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« Reply #73 on: 07-18-2003 05:19 »

1. I actually think i am the only person that thinks the new show will suck. I cant see how it will be as good as the Simpsons or Futurama thus it will be a big let down. The simpsons has run out of storys apparently so if this new show is set in this world and time surely they wont be able to have any ideas left. The great thing about Futurama was it literally was endless they could have done anything. There is always new sci-fi shows to rip off and with a universe that is never fully explained they can always bring something else in. the new show will suck, Matt Groening will lose all respect he once had. and there will probley be a new war or something but thats just me being optimistic...

2.obviouslty not

3. If it stands any chance it would be a good idea to.
reverend

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« Reply #74 on: 07-18-2003 11:02 »

despite your ridiculously negative attitude, I find taht there's quite a lot of sense in your first statement. But how about a show set in the past? I don't think it will happen, but it would be great if it did.
zvoidx

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« Reply #75 on: 09-01-2003 17:09 »
« Last Edit on: 09-01-2003 17:09 »

I agree, since the future and present have been done; the past. Maybe a nerdy guy who travels back in his time machine everyday and then ends up back in his humble apartment at the end of each show. Could go through different time periods for each different show,(I guess that could include the future).
But, does it really matter how good the show is if it is not properly promoted? Just think of how much more successful Futurama could have been if it was hyped half as much as The Simpsons?
But, actually, if you really think about it; their best bet is probably a hybrid between The Simpsons and South Park...
Mandrakis

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« Reply #76 on: 09-06-2003 19:48 »

Hopefully a new show will surpass the simpsons and futurama.
Metallica

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« Reply #77 on: 09-07-2003 15:06 »
« Last Edit on: 09-07-2003 15:06 »

1 yes
2 no
3 mabey

  I was thinking, if there is/will be a movei(if it happens) and it does good enough mabey fox will get the show back?  just a thought   hmpf
Lt. Kroker

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« Reply #78 on: 09-07-2003 15:32 »
« Last Edit on: 09-07-2003 15:32 »

It'd be really hard to come up with something where could create a world with so many possibilities like the Simpsons or Futurama, but MG might just be able to do it. Maybe something more fantastical would be good, kinda like a funnier cartoon Buffy. I really don't like what I'm hearing about a rock music show.

Edited because I can't spell.
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« Reply #79 on: 09-08-2003 11:10 »

1.Yes
2.NO
3.Yes
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