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Eternium

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« Reply #80 on: 05-01-2013 10:48 »

Quote from: Comedy Central
After being trapped in an alternate two-dimensional universe, the Planet Express crew must face unexpected challenges to daily life. (0:39)

"Trapped" Doesn't sound very voluntarily laff
DotheBartman

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« Reply #81 on: 05-01-2013 15:00 »

Yeah, I wasn't terribly impressed with the clip. Honestly though, I'm not going to dismiss it just because Mike Rowe's history is less than stellar. The premise still sounds interesting, and I'm not too worried about the jokes since as far as I know, the writers all work together in that area anyway.

They pretty much crack the stories together, too. Writing credits are more just a formality than people seem to realize. I never base my predictions on the credited writer because it just doesn't really mean a tremendous amount. Legal/union rules mandate that they have them.
MuchAdo

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« Reply #82 on: 05-01-2013 17:02 »

True to an extent.. it's been revealed that sometimes certain scripts come in so great, that they just change a joke or two and make the edits.
But yes 89% of the time someone writes a script and by the time all the the other writers pitch jokes and rewrites it's everyone's baby.

Eternium

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« Reply #83 on: 05-01-2013 17:11 »

Oh, and I might have found a little goof in the clip:
In TBWABB fry and Colleen were shown in the "2D Tunnel of Love" with fry EATING cotton candy, but now they can't eat in a twodimensional world?
MuchAdo

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« Reply #84 on: 05-01-2013 19:05 »
« Last Edit on: 05-01-2013 19:07 »

That is more of an continuity error.

Also season four had pine trees in it after they were said to be extinct, whooop whoooop whoooooop!

See, they happen all the time.. new or original run.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #85 on: 05-01-2013 19:18 »
« Last Edit on: 05-01-2013 19:22 »

Quote from: Comedy Central
After being trapped in an alternate two-dimensional universe, the Planet Express crew must face unexpected challenges to daily life. (0:39)

"Trapped" Doesn't sound very voluntarily laff

Where'd you get the ep synopsis from?

And my bet on how they end up trapped: the Professor drags Fry, Leela and Bender onto the PE ship with him (or they go to supervise him) whilst he competes in a race (we know the main plot/B-plot is about the Professor becoming a racer in a gang), and he ends up using the Dimensional Drift button/feature (which can be seen in the Season 7B preview) which pulls them into the 2D dimension.

Oh, and I might have found a little goof in the clip:
In TBWABB fry and Colleen were shown in the "2D Tunnel of Love" with fry EATING cotton candy, but now they can't eat in a twodimensional world?

The 2D Tunnel of Love may work completely differently to the 2D dimension... I mean, the Tunnel of Love is a fairground ride, not an entire plane of existence...
MuchAdo

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« Reply #86 on: 05-01-2013 19:23 »
« Last Edit on: 05-01-2013 19:34 »

Crossover Time!

Since Futurama is canned and now the Simpsons will do anything as in they are going to Rigel 7 and meeting Kang and Kodos in a canon season finale episode, why not use what the comics did as a loose template to lay the ground work and finally cross the two shows over.

 That's right, use Simpsons episodes big bucks to essentially make more Futurama in the Simpsons universe.

 I see at least a four episode crossover, and the ratings would be huge b/c of the curious factor alone.
 I know a lot of people who don't watch either shows regularly but would tune into this in a heart beat b/c of the sheer epicness of a crossover like that.

 Some big plot that involves Fry and Bart having to save time itself, while Homer and Bender fight Mom and Burns who have joined forces and bulit giant death robots.

To do the episodes and characters justice, I see multiple problems and sets of main characters teaming up and moving out on various adventures to stop them.

It's time... crossover the Simpsons and Futurama for an epic four part episodic adventure!
FOX owns both so there is less red tape involved and they could use four SABFxx Simpsons episodes to make this. So it'd basically be four new Simpsons shows with Futurama cast in it, and epic plots!
 
Even Matt G. won't have an issue with this crossover!
DannyJC13

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« Reply #87 on: 05-01-2013 19:33 »

In other news, the petition's had a rather large boost, almost on 8000 signatures.
Eternium

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« Reply #88 on: 05-01-2013 19:59 »

Quote from: Comedy Central
After being trapped in an alternate two-dimensional universe, the Planet Express crew must face unexpected challenges to daily life. (0:39)

"Trapped" Doesn't sound very voluntarily laff

Where'd you get the ep synopsis from?
From the page where the clip is listed smile
DotheBartman

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« Reply #89 on: 05-01-2013 21:11 »

True to an extent.. it's been revealed that sometimes certain scripts come in so great, that they just change a joke or two and make the edits.
But yes 89% of the time someone writes a script and by the time all the the other writers pitch jokes and rewrites it's everyone's baby.


True to an extent.. it's been revealed that sometimes certain scripts come in so great, that they just change a joke or two and make the edits.
But yes 89% of the time someone writes a script and by the time all the the other writers pitch jokes and rewrites it's everyone's baby.


True to an extent.. it's been revealed that sometimes certain scripts come in so great, that they just change a joke or two and make the edits.
But yes 89% of the time someone writes a script and by the time all the the other writers pitch jokes and rewrites it's everyone's baby.



I doubt they really would ever change that little (direct info is a little hard to come by, but the very best first-draft "Simpsons" scripts of all time were still generally changed at least 50 percent), but even then, the draft is only written after the story is pitched out to the room and the other writers and producers add their say before whichever writer (sometimes not even the writer that pitched it, but rather one assigned to it) goes off and writes the outline and/or first draft based on the whole room's input. Sitcoms like this are entirely collaborative.

Oh, and oops, I don't know why my phone quoted you three times.
jmartin
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« Reply #90 on: 05-02-2013 04:49 »

I would hate to see Futurama go away from the small screen, but how about the silver screen?  the Simpsons had a movie... Why not Zoidberg?
MuchAdo

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« Reply #91 on: 05-02-2013 05:07 »


Oh, and oops, I don't know why my phone quoted you three times.

In the commentaries DXC says that has happened before, where as much as 90% of the original script is in tact when it's edited into the final version.
It only happens once in awhile, soo... geez relax.

coffeeBot

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« Reply #92 on: 05-04-2013 04:09 »

Crossover Time!

Since Futurama is canned and now the Simpsons will do anything as in they are going to Rigel 7 and meeting Kang and Kodos in a canon season finale episode, why not use what the comics did as a loose template to lay the ground work and finally cross the two shows over.

I admire your obvious love of Futurama, but I feel like a crossover would be absolutely, completely, totally, vomit-in-my-mouth awful. Of course, a lot of this is because I've been completely unimpressed with The Simpsons. Also, the two shows probably couldn't plausibly overlap in terms of timeline/setting.
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #93 on: 05-04-2013 15:36 »

Petition has now almost 10 000 signatures! And the new goal is 20 000.
Here's also Facebook group, if it's not posted here yet.
nantal

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« Reply #94 on: 05-04-2013 16:12 »

There is another petition.
It's over 10,000 signs.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #95 on: 05-04-2013 17:15 »

Crossover Time!

Since Futurama is canned and now the Simpsons will do anything as in they are going to Rigel 7 and meeting Kang and Kodos in a canon season finale episode, why not use what the comics did as a loose template to lay the ground work and finally cross the two shows over.

I admire your obvious love of Futurama, but I feel like a crossover would be absolutely, completely, totally, vomit-in-my-mouth awful.

Canon crossovers usually are, but I think a crossover which is canon in neither continuity might be amusing (for a twenty-minute Simpsons episode, anyway. Definitely not for anything longer).

Then again, with The Simpsons being unmitigated garbage now, I think I'd prefer to go watch my Futurama DVDs.
MuchAdo

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« Reply #96 on: 05-05-2013 00:05 »

Canon crossovers usually are, but I think a crossover which is canon in neither continuity might be amusing (for a twenty-minute Simpsons episode, anyway. Definitely not for anything longer).

Then again, with The Simpsons being unmitigated garbage now, I think I'd prefer to go watch my Futurama DVDs.

I must concur with that. I hope the Simpsons is canned next.
Mr Snrub

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« Reply #97 on: 05-05-2013 00:58 »

Pretty sure Simpsons recently signed a deal for another 10 seasons, so that's not happening.
MuchAdo

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« Reply #98 on: 05-05-2013 01:27 »

LOL!
TheAnvil

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« Reply #99 on: 05-05-2013 12:26 »

The Simpsons is still great. In fact in recent years it has improved substantial. Why the hell would you WANT something cancelled that other people enjoy?

Don't like it, don't watch it.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #100 on: 05-05-2013 17:36 »
« Last Edit on: 05-05-2013 19:43 »

The Simpsons is still great. In fact in recent years it has improved substantial. Why the hell would you WANT something cancelled that other people enjoy?


A valid reason might be ressource conflicts. One cancelled show's ressources (audience, buget, better airing time, etc..) can become available for other series, strengthening their position and chances of long term survival.

Image an hypothetical example of "Futurama" and "Tripping the Rift" both being on the verge of cancellation, due to Sci Fi Sitcoms considered a rather small niche market. Too small for two series, but maybe big enough for one. So wishing for the less favorite show's cancellation for (hopefully) increasing your favorite show's renewal chances is a eligible thought.

Of course, a simple "I no longer enjoy it, and feel no one else should" is a rather meager reason to base a cancellation wish upon on.
MuchAdo

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« Reply #101 on: 05-05-2013 19:38 »

Fuck the Simpsons.
BlueZoidberg1

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« Reply #102 on: 05-05-2013 19:47 »

Fuck the Simpsons.

How mature.
MuchAdo

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« Reply #103 on: 05-05-2013 20:24 »
« Last Edit on: 05-05-2013 20:30 »

I was just being sardonic.. anyway, may they go on forever.. into even bigger banal garbage. Fuck finality, and who cares about the first several seasons being great, that legacy has been destroyed by waaaay to many damn crap episodes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tZwgu8_b0Vw

Anyway, The Simpsons should have ended long ago and Futurama should have taken it's FOX timeslot and thus never got canned so damn early.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #104 on: 05-05-2013 22:47 »
« Last Edit on: 05-05-2013 23:09 by totalnerduk »

I was just being sardonic.

How is saying "Fuck the Simpsons" a mocking, cynical, and ironic or derisive statement as opposed to sheer childish profanity for the sake of it? To be sardonic implies using a certain level of wit, rather than simple boorish ejaculations.

"Fuck the Simpsons" is neither witty nor sardonic. It is a crass sentiment, requiring little thought to utter and having about as much subtlety as a tractor. Honestly, The Simpsons (notice how "The" is capitalised to refer to the show, rather than the eponymous family) is shitty compared to its height (when it had a certain respect for continuity, a creativity that was almost unmatched, and stories that weren't simply re-hashings of various ideas as old as television), but some people (and I won't comment on their intelligence at this point) still enjoy it. Why would you wish upon them the pain of loss that you (presumably) felt upon hearing the death knell of Futurama?

I mean, it's not as if their joy is from whence your misery derives. You were not being sardonic, sarcastic, cynical, or anything traditionally associated with biting wit or intelligent commentary. You were being spiteful.

Futurama & Tripping the Rift

That sounds like an excellent evening's entertainment. I think I'll queue up a few episodes of each to distract me from my revision.
Just Fan
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« Reply #105 on: 05-06-2013 02:12 »

The Simpsons explain why they suck now.
MuchAdo

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« Reply #106 on: 05-06-2013 05:07 »

I was just being sardonic.

How is saying "Fuck the Simpsons" a mocking, cynical, and ironic or derisive statement as opposed to sheer childish profanity for the sake of it? To be sardonic implies using a certain level of wit, rather than simple boorish ejaculations.

"Fuck the Simpsons" is neither witty nor sardonic. It is a crass sentiment, requiring little thought to utter and having about as much subtlety as a tractor. Honestly, The Simpsons (notice how "The" is capitalised to refer to the show, rather than the eponymous family) is shitty compared to its height (when it had a certain respect for continuity, a creativity that was almost unmatched, and stories that weren't simply re-hashings of various ideas as old as television), but some people (and I won't comment on their intelligence at this point) still enjoy it. Why would you wish upon them the pain of loss that you (presumably) felt upon hearing the death knell of Futurama?

I mean, it's not as if their joy is from whence your misery derives. You were not being sardonic, sarcastic, cynical, or anything traditionally associated with biting wit or intelligent commentary. You were being spiteful.

Futurama & Tripping the Rift

That sounds like an excellent evening's entertainment. I think I'll queue up a few episodes of each to distract me from my revision.

How was that not grimly mocking it?

It's shit... I hope it dies.. its a parody of itself... dear God.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #107 on: 05-06-2013 05:28 »

How was that not grimly mocking it?

Mockery is usually the taunting, ridicule, heaping of derision upon, or scornful mimicry of a thing for the sake of humour. When something is mocked well, it is made light of with sharp wit, and its flaws are clearly and obviously highlighted. Your statement doesn't fit any of this. To mock something is more than simply to say "fuck it". As for doing so grimly, this would need more context than an isolated sentence fragment to convey.

I had a look to see where you might have gotten "grimly mocking" as a definition for "sardonic", too. It looks like you googled the word, and used their definition. Here's some breaking news for you: google is not a dictionary, and shouldn't be relied upon to provide the definition of a word whose usage you're not clear on.

It may surprise you to learn that the actual meaning of the word is to be faecetious to the point of contempt, or to mock something in a casual and dismissive, or disdainful manner. Many of the lines delivered by Scar in The Lion King are brilliant examples of how to be properly sardonic.
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #108 on: 05-06-2013 09:11 »

Reason I would like to have The Simpsons cancelled is that it could have another movie, as an ending. If it's popularity drops too much, movie might not happen as with Futurama at the moment. Although The Simpsons has better change to have a movie anyway.
NewNewSydney

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« Reply #109 on: 05-07-2013 08:22 »

Any news on whether the 'Countdown to Futurama' podcast will be going ahead this year? It was great to see clips and sketches of the new shows up to the premiere last year with all the commentary by Matt Groening and DXC.
MuchAdo

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« Reply #110 on: 05-07-2013 21:30 »
« Last Edit on: 05-07-2013 21:33 »

How was that not grimly mocking it?

Mockery is usually the taunting, ridicule, heaping of derision upon, or scornful mimicry of a thing for the sake of humour. When something is mocked well, it is made light of with sharp wit, and its flaws are clearly and obviously highlighted. Your statement doesn't fit any of this. To mock something is more than simply to say "fuck it". As for doing so grimly, this would need more context than an isolated sentence fragment to convey.

I had a look to see where you might have gotten "grimly mocking" as a definition for "sardonic", too. It looks like you googled the word, and used their definition. Here's some breaking news for you: google is not a dictionary, and shouldn't be relied upon to provide the definition of a word whose usage you're not clear on.

It may surprise you to learn that the actual meaning of the word is to be faecetious to the point of contempt, or to mock something in a casual and dismissive, or disdainful manner. Many of the lines delivered by Scar in The Lion King are brilliant examples of how to be properly sardonic.


Sardonic: disdainfully or skeptically humorous : derisively mocking.

To me.. telling the Simpsons to fuck off and die is disdainfully humorous.

I think your just an ass hat with to much free time.

But... I hope... you will still... please kill me with an axe?


totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #111 on: 05-07-2013 22:35 »
« Last Edit on: 05-07-2013 22:37 by totalnerduk »

To me.. telling the Simpsons to fuck off and die is disdainfully humorous.

Whilst it certainly conveys disdain, it's hardly humourous unless you happen to possess all the maturity and sophistication of a used teabag. It certainly does not qualify as anything other than the sort of crude epithet that one would expect more from an ignorant, slouched, slope-headed, knuckle-dragging mouthbreather barely able to frame an abstract thought than an individual capable of any refined or elegant wit.

There is a difference between parroting the dictionary definition of a word, and understanding what that means. I'm not sure if you understand that, let alone the proper use of the adjective under contention.

I think your just an ass hat with to much free time.

I think that you need to take a basic English class. Let me fix that for you.

Quote
I think you're just an asshat with too much free time.

See the difference?
MuchAdo

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« Reply #112 on: 05-07-2013 23:54 »
« Last Edit on: 05-08-2013 00:01 »

Oh my God, did you ever consider the fact that I might just be tired.. and don't care b/c it's the f'n internet.

No wonder the show is canned, the nerdcore fans are overly anal.. and it stinks.

Either way... I love you TK.
dr.bender nye

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« Reply #113 on: 05-09-2013 01:24 »

I'm sorry to do this but if it's ok, I'm gonna go back on topic.

Personally the return of the TV series was worthwhile. When the show origionally went off air, of corse we were saddened because we felt that this show could go further than where it had taken us. Whist I'm sure we had things to say about the 4 DVD films (or 16 episodes in the edit), there were a fair amount of solid episodes that stuck with me, The Late Philip J. Fry for instance. (Depending on how the series will be seen as its end this time, my opinion may change but) I think the show can still go much further. We reached 100 episodes, and let's face it, any show is lucky to reach that, and that number shows that there's so much that can be done. Once Family Guy reached above that, I lost interest because it repeated itself in a way that made me feel like it bashed my skull, same with The Simpsons (Say what you will, this is just ME talking).

The thing is that a show will die, but seems to be that there are shows that don't last long on the networks but can be something really special. Futurama was a show that burned thrice as bright but unfortunately burns half as long.

meisterPOOP

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« Reply #114 on: 05-09-2013 01:45 »

Let's be perfectly honest.

126 episodes and 4 movies.

My big fear is the Univiersal reincarnation of the Jetsons?
dr.bender nye

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« Reply #115 on: 05-09-2013 02:03 »

Let's be perfectly honest.

126 episodes and 4 movies.

My big fear is the Univiersal reincarnation of the Jetsons?

Well, my fear is if we get another Seth MacFarlane show set in the future in a similar fashion to Jetsons. NO MORE, SETH, PLEASE!
Torquemada

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« Reply #116 on: 05-09-2013 11:29 »

Yesterday, I started ripping all my Futurama DVDs to digital format so I can watch them while away on business. Odd that I hear the news of the cancellation the next day.

I did my grieving first time time around. I'm just grateful for the extra seasons. That's not to say this isn't sad news though - the first time it was like losing a loved-one, this time it is more like losing a zombie-robot simulacrum of that loved one; sad but not the end of the world.

Part of me wonders if the new seasons didn't seem so good because we are all ten years older now. The original series has history rooted in our youth - the good times always seem better when looking back on them. Back then, it was new, it was fresh, we were young(er) - now we're all older, more jaded.

Back in the day, the internet was young and, since then, we have feasted on all the weirdness and novelty it has to offer (well, I have any way). I've gorged on hilarity, strangeness, outright revulsion and cat videos for years now and even The Tick doesn't bring me the joy it used to.

I dare say that Futurama wouldn't hold the same attraction it did back then, if I came to it new, today. In some ways, this realization is just as sad as the news of the cancellation.

When I've finished ripping DVDs, I will hold a wake. I'll watch Futurama and drink gin until my eyes foam. When the hangover is gone, I'll move on.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #117 on: 05-09-2013 12:39 »
« Last Edit on: 05-09-2013 12:53 »

Let's be perfectly honest.

126 episodes and 4 movies.

My big fear is the Univiersal reincarnation of the Jetsons?

Well, my fear is if we get another Seth MacFarlane show set in the future in a similar fashion to Jetsons. NO MORE, SETH, PLEASE!

I am usually not so vain to quote myself, but



big grin

Personally, I would not mind a Farlane show set in the Future.
"Blue Harvest" was a good Star Wars parody. And I am glad Farlane did it, for Groening/Cohen can easily go the route "Let's give EVERYTHING a new twist".


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« Reply #118 on: 05-09-2013 12:54 »

McFarlane shows are an abomination to animation.
Box Incorporated

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« Reply #119 on: 05-09-2013 16:32 »

Blue Harvest was just an okay parody of Star Wars. It managed to do a few clever jokes with the movie and avoided doing to many unrelated jokes, but it still wasn't an extremely great or memorable parody and definitely doesn't give Seth or the writers enough hope to do a futuristic show that's actually watchable and not ''Family Guy In Space''. And then of course you get Something Something Something Something Dark Side and It's a Trap that barely parodies the Star War movies, doesn't do any jokes that are actually funny, and shows you exactly why Seth shouldn't make another show at all if its just going to be this cringy bullcrap that his really terrible show writers write.
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