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dr_perceptron

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« Reply #80 on: 06-25-2011 07:11 »

I liked this one. I thought it was a good solid example of Bender's character. thats what i would do if I could duplicate myself (sit around and make them do all the work) theres a lot of funny moments. Overall i thought it was like a classic episode.
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« Reply #81 on: 06-25-2011 07:12 »

No, Raging Bender is a classic episode.
futurefreak

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« Reply #82 on: 06-25-2011 07:23 »

Someone's on her period...
Nahhh I just hold Futurama to higher standards than new Simpsons.

Gorky: I was going to point out that Kardashian reference but you did it for me. It's ok for a cheap laugh the first time, but I don't know, it just annoys me that that reference would be made 1000 years later. Yes I know Bender reference Christina Aguilera in Bendin in the Wind. Didn't they mention that on the commentary? Like he meant her head. Not sure.
wowbagger

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« Reply #83 on: 06-25-2011 07:32 »

"The Indy 500 was today. There were no survivors." - Linda

Hahaha... I loved this joke! Particularly the way she said it, so serious!
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« Reply #84 on: 06-25-2011 08:01 »

Someone's on her period...
Nahhh I just hold Futurama to higher standards than new Simpsons.

Gorky: I was going to point out that Kardashian reference but you did it for me. It's ok for a cheap laugh the first time, but I don't know, it just annoys me that that reference would be made 1000 years later. Yes I know Bender reference Christina Aguilera in Bendin in the Wind. Didn't they mention that on the commentary? Like he meant her head. Not sure.

What makes you think that won't be the excuse this time?
futurefreak

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« Reply #85 on: 06-25-2011 08:03 »

Maybe if it was their butts in a jar.

...what?
Svip

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« Reply #86 on: 06-25-2011 08:10 »
« Last Edit on: 06-25-2011 08:12 »

That would actually be quite funny.

In fact, it would not be above Futurama to have both their heads and butts stored in jars.
futurefreak

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« Reply #87 on: 06-25-2011 08:56 »

True...we're fixing the show as we type!!! big grin
DannyJC13

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« Reply #88 on: 06-25-2011 11:23 »

I thought it was a little 'off' that they didn't name UGM's Homeworld, not like Futurama to do that. hmpf
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« Reply #89 on: 06-25-2011 11:29 »

Then again, they didn't even properly name UGM.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #90 on: 06-25-2011 11:48 »

Or the Rock Alien in Neutopia. hmpf
Zed 85

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« Reply #91 on: 06-25-2011 12:59 »
« Last Edit on: 06-25-2011 13:06 »

I don't know, this episode rubbed me the wrong way, kinda like The Duh-Vinci Code did, so again I seem to be bucking the trend by not liking it much. That's not to say that there weren't bits that had me howling, in fact, there were quite a lot of bits that had me howling - towards the beginning that is - then again a bit like TDVC I didn't enjoy where it then went so much.

Firstly: I'm not a maths nut, by any stretch of the imagination - so yeah I thoroughly enjoyed Fry's "don't wait for me" line, because that was me, basically - but I also have absolutely no idea who or what Banach-Tarski was; the only thing that stirred in me was the thought that, OMG, Tarski might be a reference to Russia! But no, nevermind. That's not an issue - because it was a through away reference and didn't ruin anything because I didn't get it, I'm just saying.

Secondly: The crew drunk was funny, but I laughed more at the crew being stupid in TDTESS. I found the plot of TDTESS more plausible.

Thirdly: Yes, I had issues with the plot - surely having all water on Earth transformed into alcohol would pretty much fuck up everything? Surely there'd be an alternative source of something to drink? Surely no alcohol would have impacted on the rest of Earth's robot population; if they were still alive, surely they'd be sober too when the UGM attacked - they're conveniently removed from the entire episode. Likewise the consequences of having whole chunks of the planet destroyed as the Benders leave surely seems a fate worse than some of the scenarios the crew spends all episode trying to prevent?

May God repairs all the damage/re-creates the decimated populations at the end of every episode?

Fourthly: I clearly started to take it too seriously. But in my defence, er... I guess I wouldn't have started to take it too seriously if I was enjoying it more. So there.
But that's clearly why I'm in a minority here.
HezaDelSol

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« Reply #92 on: 06-25-2011 17:55 »


Honestly, the only moments that bugged me were the IMAX joke

It probably would have bugged me too but hubs watches BSG and I've been making Edward James Olmos jokes for the longest time. I even made a joke THAT morning, so I found the joke particularly humorous.
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« Reply #93 on: 06-25-2011 18:23 »

I thought that the Giant Monster wasn't really that necessary to the plot. I think the episode would have been one of the best ever without it.

Nevertheless, it was a really good episode. I especially loved the sequence with Bender and his two duplicates. The mini Benders acting as vermin around the office was fun too.

I'm hoping this is the standard for the second half of this season. These episodes felt much more consistent with the style of older episodes. A much more satisfying season premiere than "Rebirth" and "IAGDL".
Aki

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« Reply #94 on: 06-25-2011 18:32 »

As far as we know, Scruffy wasn't turned back into a man; this episode happens before Neutopia.

Then why did it air after Neutopia? confused

Because Comedy Central thought this order was better. Lots of episodes have switched places, Neutopia is really ep 20 and Benderama ep 17.
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« Reply #95 on: 06-25-2011 18:39 »

As far as we know, Scruffy wasn't turned back into a man; this episode happens before Neutopia.

Then why did it air after Neutopia? confused

Because Comedy Central thought this order was better. Lots of episodes have switched places, Neutopia is really ep 20 and Benderama ep 17.

2nd person to do this, it was answered on page 2... no no
Aki

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« Reply #96 on: 06-25-2011 18:42 »

Oh jee, I got through it a little too quickly and missed that. :|
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« Reply #97 on: 06-25-2011 19:26 »

Finally saw em. I DVR them and finally got a chance. Not bad, not great but not bad. Lots of good lines. Gave it a 7.
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« Reply #98 on: 06-25-2011 19:45 »

Firstly: I'm not a maths nut, by any stretch of the imagination - so yeah I thoroughly enjoyed Fry's "don't wait for me" line, because that was me, basically - but I also have absolutely no idea who or what Banach-Tarski was; the only thing that stirred in me was the thought that, OMG, Tarski might be a reference to Russia! But no, nevermind. That's not an issue - because it was a through away reference and didn't ruin anything because I didn't get it, I'm just saying.
I'm not that math nerdy, but luckily I was watching with some math nerds who explained it over the first commercial break. With that, it made the whole plot a little more plausible and funnier.

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Secondly: The crew drunk was funny, but I laughed more at the crew being stupid in TDTESS. I found the plot of TDTESS more plausible.
Yes, the episode needed more Chester A. Arthur falling down.

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Thirdly: Yes, I had issues with the plot - surely having all water on Earth transformed into alcohol would pretty much fuck up everything? Surely there'd be an alternative source of something to drink? Surely no alcohol would have impacted on the rest of Earth's robot population; if they were still alive, surely they'd be sober too when the UGM attacked - they're conveniently removed from the entire episode. Likewise the consequences of having whole chunks of the planet destroyed as the Benders leave surely seems a fate worse than some of the scenarios the crew spends all episode trying to prevent?

May God repairs all the damage/re-creates the decimated populations at the end of every episode?

Fourthly: I clearly started to take it too seriously. But in my defence, er... I guess I wouldn't have started to take it too seriously if I was enjoying it more. So there.
But that's clearly why I'm in a minority here.
Yes, you took it a bit seriously in these last points. If we remember When Aliens Attack waaaaaaay back in Season 1, the entire planet is engulfed in flames and is partially destroyed. What does Fry say about television? "At the end of the episode, everything's always right back to normal." Even if the episode ends with the end of Earth as we know it, we know that somehow everything is fixed before the next episode. Why? How? Because it's the future!
Zed 85

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« Reply #99 on: 06-25-2011 20:10 »

@weiner: Maybe we contract the Mysterons to rebuild everything?

It's just me. It's not really the repeated destruction of earth that gets me, it's just that sometimes when the storyline ropes in the rest of the world without giving any real consideration to exploring what impact several billion other individuals may have on the subject, it runs the risk of appearing lazy (to me).

But once more, I say again, it's just me, proof that there's always one... tongue
SolidSnake

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« Reply #100 on: 06-25-2011 21:33 »

I really enjoyed this episode. I liked it better than Neutopia because it didn't give so much.........Drama. I loved how theres so many benders and they're all extremely lazy. I just loved the humor of the episode and quality. I didn't really see the drunken part so amusing (except for Hermes showing Zoidberg the pictures of his penis i was laughing on the floor!) But all in all, this episode was definitely worth the wait!

9/10
DannyJC13

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« Reply #101 on: 06-25-2011 21:35 »

See, I was expecting Neutopia to suck and Benderama to be awesome, but it was the other way round.  tongue
Aki

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« Reply #102 on: 06-25-2011 21:36 »

See, I was expecting Neutopia to suck and Benderama to be awesome, but it was the other way round.  tongue

"See"? Benderama is much higher rated both here and on CGEF.
futurefreak

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« Reply #103 on: 06-25-2011 21:42 »

The little Benders really spruced it up big grin
DannyJC13

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« Reply #104 on: 06-25-2011 21:56 »

"See"? Benderama is much higher rated both here and on CGEF.

I meant it as just a little sentance opener, like So or Um.
Aki

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« Reply #105 on: 06-25-2011 22:00 »

I see. Then it was used wrongly. Again, though, you have a faulty presumption, Neutopia is not considered to be awesome and Benderama is not considered to suck.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #106 on: 06-25-2011 22:04 »

I see. Then it was used wrongly. Again, though, you have a faulty presumption, Neutopia is not considered to be awesome and Benderama is not considered to suck.

In my mnd it is. tongue
Fnord
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« Reply #107 on: 06-25-2011 23:12 »

I also have absolutely no idea who or what Banach-Tarski was; the only thing that stirred in me was the thought that, OMG, Tarski might be a reference to Russia!

IT is a theorem, a statement, named after two mathematicians. And Stefan Banach and Alfred Tarski were Polish, not Russian.
Zed 85

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« Reply #108 on: 06-26-2011 00:08 »

I also have absolutely no idea who or what Banach-Tarski was; the only thing that stirred in me was the thought that, OMG, Tarski might be a reference to Russia!

IT is a theorem, a statement, named after two mathematicians. And Stefan Banach and Alfred Tarski were Polish, not Russian.

Ta, but I had already looked them up, hence:

But no [not Russian], nevermind.
Gorky

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« Reply #109 on: 06-26-2011 00:32 »
« Last Edit on: 06-26-2011 00:34 »

I see. Then it was used wrongly. Again, though, you have a faulty presumption, Neutopia is not considered to be awesome and Benderama is not considered to suck.

How is it wrong? People use "see" as a sort of throat-clearing thing all the time, roughly translated into, "Please draw your attention to the words that proceed this one." Just sayin'.

On topic: I don't get why every review thread inevitably devolves into this screaming match between people who don't like the episode in question, and people who do. Randi is completely justified in not liking "Neutopia" or "Benderama," and I agree with her that they are by no means the best the show has to offer. That said, she's not claiming that the new run has been shit so far, and her complaints are coming from a place of devotion to the show. Even if I don't agree with all her criticisms, I can respect them. Likewise for the people who loved Thursday night's episodes--they're entitled to their opinion, and this opinion is born of unadulterated, nerdy love (just like Randi's).

But, Christ, guys, we're never going to convince one another that an episode is gold or crap, so arguing about it endlessly is just a waste of time.
Aki

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« Reply #110 on: 06-26-2011 01:02 »

I never meant to sound like I was implying that Danny was wrong in calling Benderama sucky and Neutopia great. It was all a misunderstanding on my part - with "see" put before the sentence I thought he meant something like "in conclusion to the discussion I have witnessed, it seems like people prefer Neutopia over Benderama". Now afterwards, I understand that he meant that he was wrong and that he was surprised that they had switched places, and that's his opinion which I have nothing against.
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« Reply #111 on: 06-26-2011 01:37 »
« Last Edit on: 06-26-2011 01:40 »

[Hermes]I enjoy discussions where no one gets hurt.[/Hermes]
Onuki

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« Reply #112 on: 06-26-2011 03:27 »

7/10. big grin

My most favorite scenes were when the PE crew were drunk. LOL
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« Reply #113 on: 06-26-2011 03:53 »

I think they kind of stretched that bit out to be honest.  I don't even know if it's possible to get hydrated enough if you're constantly drunk and there's no water left.
Mongo

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« Reply #114 on: 06-26-2011 04:40 »

Actually, I believe that one of the effects of alcohol in the bloodstream is to cause dehydration.  If somebody were to drink nothing but alcohol for days, they would be in severe trouble, potentially in danger of dying.

And what about their blood? Is the water that is its major component by volume turned into alcohol too?  It must not be, because nobody could survive that.

[/science geek]
Tallywhacker

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« Reply #115 on: 06-26-2011 08:13 »

I tried to GIS a picture of floppy ancient female Professor Farnsworth. This may be the most smut I've ever completely unintentionally exposed myself to. Not complaining, just saying.
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« Reply #116 on: 06-26-2011 08:24 »

i've asked three casual fans of mine which episode they preferred. no word of lie, they all enjoyed 'neutopia' more-so than 'benderama'.
flesheatingbull

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« Reply #117 on: 06-26-2011 08:33 »

I see. Then it was used wrongly. Again, though, you have a faulty presumption, Neutopia is not considered to be awesome and Benderama is not considered to suck.

In my mnd it is. tongue

don't worry, you're not alone.
MovieMurderer

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« Reply #118 on: 06-26-2011 11:33 »

i've asked three casual fans of mine which episode they preferred.

You have fans? And even if you did, why ask them their opinions on episodes of Futurama?

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DannyJC13

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« Reply #119 on: 06-26-2011 13:21 »

I'm re-watching Benderama now, and I just remembered that we were treated to a 'full' intro this time, including 1930's style cartoon on the Big Screen. big grin
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