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Aki
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To be fair, most of the crew were really nice to him when sober. Fry even tried to comfort him, albeit failing at it and accidentally turning it into an insult. The second time around they were just drunk.
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TheMadCapper
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"I was drunk" is not a legal defense. The court will (and should) hold you responsible for everything you did while drunk, including starting fights, driving dangerously, and various other crimes.
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Aki
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It was neither meant as a legal defense nor an excuse. It was a background reason of the events that transpired.
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TheMadCapper
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Excusing people's behavior because they were on a drug is crap. It's not a "background reason", you're making excuses for them being assholes when they should not have been. The PE crew were being assholes to someone who was trying to be nice to them, and that's out of character. It's bad writing.
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Aki
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Ofcourse they were assholes, I didn't claim anything differently. And I'm the last person to try to convince that alcohol is bad for you.
I don't think it's bad writing, though. I thought it was a clever way to insert how they would get the giant mad without having to be complete jerks. The ending, of how he was killed, however, that was poor writing. It felt extremely unresolved when he just died and everyone got away with it.
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TheMadCapper
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That was another gripe I had but didn't get into. The Benders kill the giant ugly person and then they leave Earth for no raisin. A world of crummy plot holes and spelling errors. Except this time it is not the mentally retarded person Fry writing the story on the spot, it's the entire Futurama writing team.
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Aki
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That's one way to look at it. To be honest, there are some annoying plot holes, but the episode overall weighs it up for me.
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Tachyon
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I feel certain that at least some of the writers lurk here.
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Aki
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I don't. It would only cause annoying discussions about who knows what's best for Futurama.
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Otis P Jivefunk
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That was another gripe I had but didn't get into. The Benders kill the giant ugly person and then they leave Earth for no raisin. A world of crummy plot holes and spelling errors. Except this time it is not the mentally retarded person Fry writing the story on the spot, it's the entire Futurama writing team.
I feel bad now that it didn't stick out to me as a plot flaw. I'm usually good at spotting these kinds of things, I must have lost my edge ...
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TheMadCapper
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It's happened a couple of times. Someone pointed out that in Neutopia the Borax Kid just shows up and sets everything aright because the episode needs to be over in 30 seconds. He doesn't give a crap about the PE crew. I'm enjoying the episodes, but lazy hand-waves like this aren't a good sign.
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Fnord
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* The divergent series mentioned in the episode is the harmonic series (after simplifying) 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + ...
After second viewing, I realized that this should be 1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + ... Funny thing is, that if the Benders were only 49.9999% of the previous Bender, instead of 50%, the series would converge. ((crickets chirping))
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Gorky
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That was another gripe I had but didn't get into. The Benders kill the giant ugly person and then they leave Earth for no raisin. A world of crummy plot holes and spelling errors. Except this time it is not the mentally retarded person Fry writing the story on the spot, it's the entire Futurama writing team.
I feel bad now that it didn't stick out to me as a plot flaw. I'm usually good at spotting these kinds of things, I must have lost my edge ...
Unless I'm remembering the episode wrong, I think the little Benders leave immediately after original recipe Bender gives his speech about teamwork and saving the world and wiping out unliteracy and such. The implication is that they leave forever because they want to find a world where they are not expected to do even one-quintillionth of a thing. It's not the best ending, but at least it takes advantage of the running joke about how Bender and his clones are lazy, and it's not as out-of-nowhere as the Borax Kid showing up at the end of "Neutopia." It feels a bit more earned.
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Fnord
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* The divergent series mentioned in the episode is the harmonic series (after simplifying) 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + ...
After second viewing, I realized that this should be 1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + ...
Funny thing is, that if the Benders were only 49.9999% of the previous Bender, instead of 50%, the series would converge.
((crickets chirping))
I'm pretty sure the Benders were 60% of their respective original Bender.
That's what I thought I heard (and maybe the writers changed the percentage but didn't make all the corrections), but the formula that the Professor shows is (the sum of) 2^i * M(0) / (2^i * (i + 1)) which suggests that it's actually 50%. 2^i represents the number of Benders after i duplications, and M(0) is the original mass. The size of a Bender after i duplications would be (r)^i, for some number r, which is the relative size. (I'm not 100% sure where the i+1 comes in -- maybe the Benders after i duplications require a mass of M(0)/(i+1), so that Bender had to consume his mass in "extra material", but the two duplications each needed to only consume half of Bender's mass, and their duplications had to consume a third of Bender's mass, etc.) A 60% size would produce the formula (sum of) 2^i * M(0) * (3/5)^i * 1/(i+1), which also diverges, incidentally; the individual terms don't even converge to zero. Maybe if Hubert Farnsworth provided the technical specs for the Banach-Tarski Dupla-Shrinker, that would clear things up ...
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DannyJC13
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This was probably the best episode of the season. Even better than The Late Inspection in my opinion.
You mean Lethal Inspection?
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DannyJC13
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No, the Late Inspection of Philip J. Fry.
No, he replied with 'of' directly after my post, so it's Lethal...
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Aki
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No, the Late Inspection of Philip J. Fry.
No, he replied with 'of' directly after my post, so it's Lethal...
So "You mean Lethal Inspection?of Philip J. Fry"?
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Aki
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No, the Late Inspection of Philip J. Fry.
No, he replied with 'of' directly after my post, so it's Lethal...
So "You mean Lethal Inspection?of Philip J. Fry"?
No, "You mean Lethal Inspection?of Philip J. Fry, yeah that one".
But ", yeah that one" was discussing the title itself. Like "I want banana" doesn't mean that one wants an "I want banana", it means that one wants "banana".
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5qu1d
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How do all the tiny benders leave earth? They can't fly, can they. Also, in order for the benders on an atomic scale to work, they would have to be made of smaller atoms which the professor says are very expensive in parasites lost. If he invented a machine that can make tiny atoms, why didn't he sell the tiny atoms to get rich?
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Svip
Administrator
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Yes... that's a plot hole right there. Right.
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spira
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I was very happy that I got to see Fry, Leela, The Professor, Zapp, Kif and Zoidberg drunk, I've always wanted to see that on Futurama
You are one weird kid. I like you. Squid... but they did leave. So apparently they can fly, or something.
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