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Zapp_4_King

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« on: 04-30-2002 10:55 »

Sorry if this is in the wrong area:

Simpsons creator hints end could be in sight

Simpsons creator Matt Groening has hinted he is considering "winding up" the show.

He says much depends on whether the cult cartoon wins an Emmy for best animation this year.

Groening adds that the US network Fox wants to "wring every last penny" out of it.

"I think we are closer to winding it up," he said.

"What happens generally if we win the Emmy for Best Animation Show, is that that gives us another couple of years to run it into the ground."

Channel 4 has just paid 1 million a show for the UK rights to The Simpsons for the lifetime of the programme, reports Media Guardian.

If Fox havnt ordered anymore Futrama and this ends, whats next?

I thought it was funny how Matt said about Fox wanting every last penny out of it!

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Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #1 on: 04-30-2002 14:25 »

But Matt Groening also said this about Fox ordering another season:

"If not, onto bigger and better networks."

Sounds promising to me, I'd rather the show continued, even if it does have a different team working on it.
Zed 85

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« Reply #2 on: 04-30-2002 14:36 »

As long as they have the same cast and still produce around the same quality as now then I can safely say Fuck FOX!
Teral

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« Reply #3 on: 04-30-2002 17:24 »

I'd really like if Matt had the ruthlessness to say to FOX: "screw you, if you don't renew Futurama I'm pulling the plug on Simpsons, right here, right now".

But, I read somewhere that Matt doesn't like doing business that way, it's not his style. That guy is just too nice.
slimmyCGEF

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« Reply #4 on: 04-30-2002 17:27 »

yeah, matt is a puppy
Mr. Potter

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« Reply #5 on: 04-30-2002 17:48 »

I think that Matt is smart and if Fox don't want to make Futurama he will find another network to do it. We have to remind that he has a great influence in the television business.
Xenomorph
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« Reply #6 on: 04-30-2002 17:50 »

This is obviously a tactic to

A) Scare Fox into renewing Futurama or
B) Anger Fox into dumping Futurama so they can air it on another channel.
Code Green

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« Reply #7 on: 05-01-2002 19:45 »
« Last Edit on: 05-01-2002 19:45 »

   
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Originally posted by Xenomorph:
This is obviously a tactic to

A) Scare Fox into renewing Futurama or
B) Anger Fox into dumping Futurama so they can air it on another channel.

Actually I disagree on that. I have noticed that Matt seemed to be getting tired of doing the Simpsons within the last few years and I am not surprised that he is thinking of stopping production of the show. I mean you can't blame him, he's been doing it since 1989, (since 1987 counting the Tracy Ullman Show Shorts). He must be bored of the show by now. The other dilema for him though is Futurama. This has got to be depresssing to him. He wants to end The Simpsons, but FOX wants to keep it on the air, and he wants to keep Futurama on the air, but FOX wants to cancel it.

Also, The Simpsons is signed by FOX to make episodes until Season 15 (they are currently in Season 13). If they end the show when their contract's up, that won't be until at least 2004 so even if they do pull the plug on the show, it will have two good years left on the air. That's plenty of time to tie up loose ends and all. Also, by then, all Simpsons fans may be tired of the show anyway, that is if they aren't already.

Ben

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« Reply #8 on: 05-01-2002 22:50 »

At the moment there is a very evident 'holier than thou' opinion regarding new Simpsons eps from fans on the various messageboards, one in particular. But I think if the plug was pulled then the old analogy "You don't appreciate what you've got until it's gone" will come into force very quickly.
Erdrik

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« Reply #9 on: 05-01-2002 22:55 »

 
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
But Matt Groening also said this about Fox ordering another season:

"If not, onto bigger and better networks."

Sounds promising to me, I'd rather the show continued, even if it does have a different team working on it.
I was thinking...

I know I posted this in another thread but... Matt should goto Cartoon Network.
Great Ads, shows are treated well, and The Adult Run would be a perfect place for it.

But What I was thinking was this: I thought I read somewhere that the animaters from Rough Draft Studios were going on to do a project at Cartoon Network.. so If Matt went to CN then He would have a better chance at getting the original Animaters back!  flirt

Then he'd just have to worry about the writers...

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Just Chris

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« Reply #10 on: 05-02-2002 00:37 »

I saw a story about that on the morning news, on Fox. The entertainment anchor spoke about how Matt thinks the show's "running out of steam" (hey, that was 2 years ago) and they will close up shop probably in the 15th season. It's also been said how Matt was pissed at how Futurama is being treated by Fox, and that Futurama isn't clicking much with as many people as The Simpsons have.

What!? Why isn't Futurama's humor not clicking with as many fans as The Simpsons? I think it's either:
1. People might be intimidated at the idea of watching a sci-fi animated comedy or,
2. Fox doesn't advertise the show enough, which is a deterrant to catching new fans.
wiggles

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« Reply #11 on: 05-02-2002 05:09 »

There have been a number of reports in the UK press over the past day or two suggesting "The Simpsons" will be wound up sharpish.

It looks like Matt has felt that he has had to counter these stories:


the reports of my death are greatly exaggerated
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #12 on: 05-02-2002 15:26 »

I clicked on yout link, wiggles. If that is true, then all I can say is DAMN!
Erdrik

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« Reply #13 on: 05-02-2002 16:41 »

 
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Originally posted by wiggles:
...snip...
It looks like Matt has felt that he has had to counter these stories
...snip...

Either that or Fox ordered him to...

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Kryten

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« Reply #14 on: 05-02-2002 17:00 »

 
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Originally posted by Erdrik:
 Either that or Fox ordered him to...


"The network has asked me to read the following statement, but I do so *gun heard being cocked* out of my own free will. It has come to my attention that The Simpsons is as good as it has ever been. In fact, by removing all the filler like clever jokes and skillful chracaterizaton, we have made it even better. And it will never be cancelled. Furthermore, the FOX network continues to commit to quality programming, like "When Pets Attack" and "World's Smelliest Police Chases". In conclusion, All other stuff bad. Fox good. Futurama great." *Bang*

VelourFog

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« Reply #15 on: 05-02-2002 17:17 »

just because he says he'll move on to better networks, doesn't mean he'll take Futurama with him
in that old AARP magazine article he mentioned he was getting less interested in Futurama as well and it might be too hard to get it back together.
i'd think he'd more likely just do some other show/thing.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #16 on: 05-02-2002 17:22 »

 
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Originally posted by VelourFog:
just because he says he'll move on to better networks, doesn't mean he'll take Futurama with him.

Yeah, but he implied it


PCC Fred

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« Reply #17 on: 05-02-2002 18:40 »

You can't spell "implied" without "lied".
VelourFog

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« Reply #18 on: 05-02-2002 19:58 »

otis: i would truly love to believe that, and so i do.
Torquemada

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« Reply #19 on: 05-02-2002 20:50 »

Who owns the rights to Futurama? Fox, not Matt.
Please please please correct me if I am wrong....
Kryten

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« Reply #20 on: 05-02-2002 23:35 »

Actually, Matt owns all the rights. Whic is WHY Fox hates the show.
Erdrik

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« Reply #21 on: 05-03-2002 00:52 »

 
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Originally posted by VelourFog:
just because he says he'll move on to better networks, doesn't mean he'll take Futurama with him
in that old AARP magazine article he mentioned he was getting less interested in Futurama as well and it might be too hard to get it back together.
i'd think he'd more likely just do some other show/thing.

how old was that AARP articale?


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meisterPOOP

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« Reply #22 on: 05-03-2002 00:55 »

I don't recall a Matt Groning strip called "Life in the Future."
VelourFog

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« Reply #23 on: 05-03-2002 11:23 »

aarp article: i frankly don't remember, up to a year ago i guess, but definately not within the past few months
Torquemada

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« Reply #24 on: 05-03-2002 11:46 »

 
Quote
Originally posted by Kryten:
Actually, Matt owns all the rights. Whic is WHY Fox hates the show
Yay!
/me runs around in small circles.
That is the best news I have ever heard.
Now please please please tell me that is the truth.

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AstroZombie

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« Reply #25 on: 05-03-2002 15:20 »

LOVE that emoticon torquemada  big grin

futurefreak

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« Reply #26 on: 05-03-2002 21:22 »

<from other thread> welcome to PEEL, Archie2K!  smile
Sera

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« Reply #27 on: 05-04-2002 09:17 »

sigh

wish that matt got more nerve to say "NO" to fox
fox ain't worth it
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