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wu_konguk

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« Reply #40 on: 04-09-2002 08:37 »
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Also a brightside there is still more time to plan an attack on fox HQ   evil laugh

TOtPD you know Really didn't need to edit this I'm so dumb.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #41 on: 04-09-2002 09:11 »

Maybe - and this is a BIG maybe - FOX will move Futurama to a different time slot, and air the remaining sixteen episodes from Sep-Dec 2002.
On the other hand, they probably WILL just drag it out to a 6th season in 2004, which means there'd be an outside chance of episodes appearing on Region 2 DVDs before airing in the U.S.
jasonlevine

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« Reply #42 on: 04-09-2002 10:10 »

 
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Originally posted by wiggles:
Just a theory... But it does hinge on FOX schedulers being allowed to play with the company brain cell.

Just got a mental image of that Staples commercial where everyone's using the same pen to save money... Only it's Fox execs using the same brain cell.  "Hey, it's time to plan for the next season.  We need the brain cell."

Let's see what Fox has returning next season (from http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=11942  ):

Canceled:
American Embassy
Chamber, The
Family Guy
Pasadena
Temptation Island - What?  Fox canceling it's star "sex sells" show?  Say it ain't so!  (They must be looking to make room for "Hardcore Temptation Island.&quot wink
Tick, The
Undeclared
X-Files, The

Renewed:
America's Most Wanted
Bernie Mac Show, The
Boston Public
Cops
Futurama (Technically it's not being renewed, but since when has logic entered a Fox Exec's brain?)
King of the Hill
Malcolm in the Middle
Simpsons, The
That '70s Show
24

On the Bubble:
Ally McBeal
Andy Richter Controls the Universe
Dark Angel
Greg the Bunny
Grounded For Life
That '80s Show
Titus


Apart from Futurama, there's nothing on this schedule that makes me say "Man do I want to watch Fox tonight!"  (I'm sure they'll fill the scheduling gaps with shows of the form World's Blankiest Blank.)
VelourFog

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« Reply #43 on: 04-09-2002 10:24 »

that 80s show is only "on the bubble"? for the love of pete! 
BumbleBeeTheta

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« Reply #44 on: 04-09-2002 11:03 »

No!  Not Grounded and Greg...  cry

Who is Agent Codename: Dragonfly?
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #45 on: 04-09-2002 11:54 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
On the other hand, they probably WILL just drag it out to a 6th season in 2004, which means there'd be an outside chance of episodes appearing on Region 2 DVDs before airing in the U.S.

I was thinking that myself, If Fox are going to stetch it out another two seasons then some episodes wont be aired until April/May 2004. If they decide not to show the remaining season 3 production episode "The Route of All Evil" next season, then it could well be released on region 2 DVD before it airs in the US.

It's also possibe that Season 4 could make it onto DVD before Fox's sixth season airs. One thing I was wondering is wether this could realistically happen, I know South Park season 4 was released in the UK before it had finished airing so it could happen I guess. It would be very unfair for the US residents if it did.
Kryten

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« Reply #46 on: 04-09-2002 12:05 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
Maybe - and this is a BIG maybe - FOX will move Futurama to a different time slot, and air the remaining sixteen episodes from Sep-Dec 2002.

And maybe monkeys will fly out my butt.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #47 on: 04-09-2002 12:08 »

It's not impossible for UK DVDs to overtake the US schedules.  In the UK the Simpsons and Futurama DVD's are currently coming out at four month intervals - Simpsons season 1 in Sep 2001, Futurama Production Block 1 in Jan 2002, and Simpsons Season 2 is lined up for May/June.  If they carried on like this, Futurama PB 2 would be out in September/October, PB 3 in May/June 2003, and PB 4 early 2004, about the time a sixth season aired.  But this is FOX we're talking about, so who knows?
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #48 on: 04-09-2002 12:26 »
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Yeah, Season Two of The Simpsons was originally due out six months after Season One and it's still not out!

Btw Welcome to PEEL PCC Fred  smile
iliketowankalot

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« Reply #49 on: 04-09-2002 14:08 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
Maybe - and this is a BIG maybe - FOX will move Futurama to a different time slot, and air the remaining sixteen episodes from Sep-Dec 2002.

Originally posted by Kryten:
 And maybe monkeys will fly out my butt.

My money is on the monkeys cumming out of Krytens butt


wiggles

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« Reply #50 on: 04-09-2002 14:20 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
It's not impossible for UK DVDs to overtake the US schedules.  In the UK the Simpsons and Futurama DVD's are currently coming out at four month intervals - Simpsons season 1 in Sep 2001, Futurama Production Block 1 in Jan 2002, and Simpsons Season 2 is lined up for May/June.  If they carried on like this, Futurama PB 2 would be out in September/October, PB 3 in May/June 2003, and PB 4 early 2004, about the time a sixth season aired.  But this is FOX we're talking about, so who knows?

Hey guys!!! Blackstar already has "Futurama 6" for sale.   eek

Check it out -->  http://www.blackstar.co.uk/video/item/7000000015194

(oh... wait.... hang on. I thought it was too good to be true!   wink )
PCC Fred

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« Reply #51 on: 04-09-2002 15:19 »

How about this - Find a cryogenics lab, get frozen for 1000 years, get thawed out, and you should just be in time for FOX's premiere of "The Route of All Evil".

THanks for the welcome, Otis P Jivefunk
Code Green

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« Reply #52 on: 04-09-2002 15:24 »

 
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Originally posted by blahness:
where is it official that futurama's season ends on the 21st or are people saying that because "where no fan has gone before" is airing on that date?

I read that same thing too on http://www.tvguide.com/listings  , type in your zip code and then the type of cable or satallite TV you have then jump from the present date to Sunday April 21st and read what it has for 7:00pm/6c on FOX.

Code Green

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« Reply #53 on: 04-09-2002 15:26 »

 
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Originally posted by blahness:
when does the season end for other shows like the simpsons and whatnot?

The X-Files series finale is on May 19st, The Simpsons season finale is the week after. I'm not sure on the King of the Hill or Malcolm in the Middle season finales.
The Baz

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« Reply #54 on: 04-09-2002 16:01 »

Sadly 16 episodes may very well be used to milk Futurama and bitch slap us fans.  Has FOX signed Futurama for 7pm Fall 2002?  They might as well put Futurama in as a mid-season replacement and continue the preempting fun.  Or even more upsetting FOX might use the old "Family Guy formula" and try fitting random "special" Futurama episodes in unusual spots when needed.

Continue writing FOX!
Just because those @*#$% execs at FOX don't like the show personally they feel the need to try to kill it ever chance they can!
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #55 on: 04-09-2002 16:19 »

I'm starting to worry that the final episode will never get shown within my lifetime, or at all.
Future Angel
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« Reply #56 on: 04-09-2002 16:58 »

I'm amazed that Dark Angel is on the Bubble and not cancelled, it's horrible compared to the first season. James Cameron has done a horrible job.

As we all know Futurama isn't exactly renewed for next season and tvguidelive.com is letting evryone know that too:

Under RENEWALS & PICKUPS:

Futurama (Fox/Global). Ok, it's not really a renewal. In fact, Fox has actually stopped ordering new episodes of this show. But because of the long lead-time in production for animated series, 14 brand new episodes — which pretty much add up to a new season — will be ready for broadcast in fall 2002.

They just need to update that a bit there's more than 14 holdovers, (and Global shows NO BOUNDRIES on Sundays @ 7) but atleast anyone reading that may see how stupid FOX is.
FishyJoe

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« Reply #57 on: 04-09-2002 17:05 »

I think Dark Angel is pretty much cancelled. They are just waiting until after the season finale, which is directed by James Cameron, for a formal announcement just in case his name brings a huge ratings jump. And of course it won't, because the writing stinks and nothing has ever succeeded on friday nights except for The X-files.
cellery

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« Reply #58 on: 04-09-2002 17:12 »

The first season of DA was pretty good, and Fox treated the show very very well with one of the most expensive pilot episodes ever made and constant publicity, not to mention having uber-hottie Jessica Alba as the star. Why move it around the schedule? The same awesome minds that cancelled Futurama at work!
Venus

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« Reply #59 on: 04-09-2002 17:14 »

i used to love Dark Angel. But they had to go and screw it up by making Max and Logan unable to touch and they made the show all about that dog/human Joshua guy. :sigh:
danny-dude

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« Reply #60 on: 04-09-2002 18:00 »

Hi guys,

I've just been having a think, and I've considered that maybe this isn't such a bad thing after all... Try this one for size:

Scheduling the season finale may seem bad, but from my point of view, it's a sign that they "remember" the show. They won't throw out episodes that have been already made that could make them money, so there must be a financial incentive for them to end Season Four here. Here's my theory...

Fox want to get back on track. Left over episodes will make either a) an utterly enormous season five, or b) two pathetic seasons - five and six. It occurs to me that this may open the door for production to resume.

I don't think they will give us every remaining episode in Season Five. I'm coming round to thinking that they won't fiddle around with two "lite" seasons either. I reckon they'll do an average Season Five, add the leftovers to Season Six, and resume production to give it a nominal number of episodes.

I could be wrong, but you have to admit, this is the most optimistic thing posted here since February! :-)

Take care,

Danny

iliketowankalot

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« Reply #61 on: 04-09-2002 18:23 »

My money is still on the monkeys flying out of Krytens butt
Venus

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« Reply #62 on: 04-09-2002 18:28 »

i once had an alpha male gorrila at the zoo through his own crap at me. i think Fox hired him as the head of programming.
Tzlk
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« Reply #63 on: 04-09-2002 18:34 »

Lets hope you are right Dannydue.  I have seen a gorrila do what you are talking about venus, man is it funny to see that.  (Unless of course you actually get hit by the gorrila shit)  I think I saw that at the Chicago zoo... either that or it was the San Diego Zoo dont remember.
Venus

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« Reply #64 on: 04-09-2002 18:40 »

i wasn't hit, but one of the girls i was with was.
Tzlk
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« Reply #65 on: 04-09-2002 18:48 »
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nasty...(back on topic) According to tvguide.com Where no fan has gone before is gonna be on the 21st or april.  Thats as far ahead as Cox goes here in Tucson.  It doesnt say season finally but it might be.

edit- this was pointed out earlier...*crawls into hole and dies*
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ImScruffy

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« Reply #66 on: 04-09-2002 19:04 »

Why was 24 renewed? what they hell are they going to expand onto. a 36 hour show. a new plot. come on its a one time thing. And personally i think the Bernie mac show sucks. it is so bad. But its good to know that all of the cacelled shows will be replaced with quality T.V. like Celebrity Boxing and Eating Competion's. Scruffy says you want entertainment come to the Boiler room and watch the hair on my ass grow  smile
ImScruffy

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« Reply #67 on: 04-09-2002 19:08 »
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BTW the simpsons is getting old. I still like it but they are running out of ideas. FOX you need some new, funny stuff. or Hardcore temptation island. Plus i would tune in to see monkies fly out of kryten's butt.
McGrady

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« Reply #68 on: 04-09-2002 19:50 »
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I take the exact opposite view of dannydude.  It is probably more likely that they looked at the ratings and decided that no matter what they stuck in that timeslot, it will do just about as well as futurama, so why show something new that they spent a lot of money on for it to do as poorly as greg the bunny reruns.  Fox will just keep it as football filler until they run out of episodes and replace with reruns of KoTH or similar trash.

With careful planning, it could be made to stretch into 2 seasons.  There isn't much difference between showing 8 and showing 12 episodes a season, all they would have to do is not show the 3 that they did this season during football, and they are at 9.  Show one less and they have 8, and there you have it... two seasons.

I would almost be surprised at this point if they even show all the episodes.  I fully expect next year to see the idle hands final, and fox won't care at all about the order.
blahness

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« Reply #69 on: 04-09-2002 19:55 »

i dont know but i think im going to remain optimistic about this... i dont think fox is going to do 2 short seasons because they could make more money by doing production for another year and sending futurama into syndication plus then release the season 1 dvd in the U.S.  thats just my opinion though
FishyJoe

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« Reply #70 on: 04-09-2002 20:05 »

 
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By danny-dude:
It occurs to me that this may open the door for production to resume.

That thought briefly crossed my mind, but come on, that's not gonna happen. Back in season 3 when they only showed 15 episodes, and AOI2 got pushed back for no reason, people thought "oh maybe they are just saving episodes in case there's a writer's guild strike". Then they start season 4 way late, and people think "maybe they are just doing this so we won't be disappointed by football preemptions--after football, we'll get a constant stream of new episodes". But no, the show was dicked around just as much. I think it's time to face facts, FOX just hates us.
jasonlevine

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« Reply #71 on: 04-10-2002 10:11 »

 
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Originally posted by danny-dude:Fox want to get back on track. Left over episodes will make either a) an utterly enormous season five, or b) two pathetic seasons - five and six. It occurs to me that this may open the door for production to resume.

I don't think they will give us every remaining episode in Season Five. I'm coming round to thinking that they won't fiddle around with two "lite" seasons either. I reckon they'll do an average Season Five, add the leftovers to Season Six, and resume production to give it a nominal number of episodes.

Just remember that, even if Fox does that, it will have been over a year since the writers and animators were let go.  We'd be getting a whole new group of writers thinking up plots/jokes and a whole new group of animators (who'd have to get accustomed to the old Futurama style lest they make the transition too noticeable).

Best case scenario: The new group does a wonderful job and we all look back on this troubling time and laugh.

Most likely scenario:  The first few episodes aren't all that great thanks to the new writers/animators trying to hit their stride.  This either turns some fans away ("This isn't really Futurama.  Only The first five/six seasons were.") or makes it that much more painful for us to wait for them to hit their stride.  And before they do, Fox could ax the show again (more permanently).

My guess is that if you bet on Fox acting in a manner which angers fans and gives Futurama the short end of the stick, you won't often lose.  I think they'll air a "season" of 12 or so episodes next year, possibly placing the other four in "special" timeslots.  (Read:  "We don't have anything better to air and fans might miss it here so let's air it.")

If they don't place the left-over four during season 5, they might just air an aborted season 6.  Airing four episodes and then yanking it "due to excessive production costs" or something.  (Read:  "All the animators and writers were fired and it'd cost us an arm and a leg to get them back.  It's easer to just kill this.")


bankrupt

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« Reply #72 on: 04-10-2002 12:46 »

I'm going to put my money on FOX yanking Futurama out of the 7:00 PM slot and making it Family Guy type filler.  It's the next logical step in their horrible treatment of the show.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #73 on: 04-10-2002 13:18 »

 
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Originally posted by McGrady:
I fully expect next year to see the idle hands final, and fox won't care at all about the order.

This is what worries me, by the time "Season 5" airs all of the episodes will have been finished (including the finale). Knowing Fox they'll air them in the most obscure order with the final bang in the middle of their Season 5 run. All continuity will be lost, just like we've seen Dwight in some episodes before his introduction episode.

I think that Groening and Cohen should keep the last episode themselves, and only let Fox have it when they air the others.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #74 on: 04-10-2002 13:43 »

Does anyone know if the final episode is a MASH style "This is IT" final episode, a TNG style "it's sort of the end, but the door's open for more stuff to happen" final episode, or a "It's just another episode" final episode?
Nixorbo

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« Reply #75 on: 04-10-2002 14:05 »

I'd call it a "This really isn't supposed to be the series finale, but the bitches at FOX cancelled us out of spite before we could even begin doing a proper one."  That is, if you're talking about the immanent series finale coming next season, assuming we get the rest of the episodes next season.
Erdrik

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« Reply #76 on: 04-10-2002 14:09 »

damn this sucks.  mad
there's gotta be something that can be done  frown
stupid stupid ******* close minded sons a B****es mother******s! damn.

ok I'm doneThe final for this season is going to be a StarTrek special and from what I heard the final Season 4 production was made to be semi final but still be open. incase Foz dose continue ... but it appears that won't be happening  mad
Koekwaus

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« Reply #77 on: 04-10-2002 15:33 »

So why isn't Fox responding to the hundreds of emails (mine included) being sent to them?
I hope the email adresses arent operated by a bot who searches for the word "help" or something and then sends a automated reply.   no no
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #78 on: 04-10-2002 15:36 »

I don't think Fox have made any sort of response to the emails, petition or letters, they seem to not care no no
Koekwaus

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« Reply #79 on: 04-10-2002 15:43 »

Maybe they realise it too late, when their ratings go down.
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