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« Reply #40 on: 03-06-2002 11:19 »

 
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« Reply #41 on: 03-06-2002 11:44 »

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« Reply #42 on: 03-06-2002 12:10 »

I must say that I didn't like this episode as much as some others here have posted. Although Zoidberg is one of my favorite characters I thought all his moments here were all forced and out of place.
It was nice to see an episode that spotlighted Amy a little more as well as her relationship with Kif but it just didn't work for me. Kif is a great character but works much better when he is with Zapp and they work off of each other. Not that he can't stand alone without him. Kif could be the everyman in all of us. Like Charlie Brown where you can both sympathize with his suffering but can also laugh out loud at it because it is so comical.
I really liked the beginning with all the smoking personas and the constant references to smoking. The native martians were also alot of fun. Hope they make a comeback in other episodes.
It will be interesting to see where the writers take this and build upon it for the later episode where Kif gets knocked up a notch. Will this be a stepping stone or will it be a precursor of things to come?
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« Reply #43 on: 03-06-2002 13:36 »

 
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I liked it overall, especially the DR. Z parts but I noticed J. Stewart Barnes likes to do the "repaet the same joke a lot to make it funny" which he did way too many time. Example: The professor choosing Fry, Leela and Bender; Dr.Z acting like he is a Wong; Kif thinking sex is kissing etc. etc.

I don't know if you can pin this on J. Stewart Burns. These sound like they could be individual gags that other writers threw in after his initial draft was written. If you really want to figure out J. Stewart's quirks, I would look more at the overall story.

For instance, I've noticed all his episodes follow a similar pattern. They start off normally, and then usually resolve everything with a funny twist, a "punchline" type ending. In Roswell, it was that Fry became his own grandfather; in Deep South, it was that Fry and the mermaid couldn't have normal human sex. Here the big punchline/twist is that the native Martians weren't swindled, and in fact they got a pretty good deal. Not his best effort in terms of story, but I still think the episode ended up being pretty funny.

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« Reply #44 on: 03-06-2002 17:49 »

I thought the ep was good. Loved the Amy and Kiff Romance. is it me but dosen't Kiff seems cute in that ep?

I love Joe  laff I wish they bring him back onto later episodes. I wouldn't mind a avtar oh him.

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« Reply #45 on: 03-06-2002 18:36 »

I especially liked the Indian Chief's speech at the end "Land schamnd. We don't want to live on this planet, it's a dump! We'll buy new planet, and act like it's sacred. With cash like this, who's gonna argue? Nobody, that's who."
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« Reply #46 on: 03-06-2002 18:54 »

Did anybody else wonder where the Native Martians came from?  My theory is that they were originally humans who were genetically adapted to survive the harsh martian conditions.  They probably lost contact with Earth for a while during one of the two major alien attacks (as seen from the cryo building).  Then when Mars University was founded in 2636, contact was re-established, but by then they had probably forgotten their origins.  The Buggalo might be a genetic hybrid of a cow and a beetle, also adapted to life on pre-terraformed Mars.

Now if anyone would like to provide me with a large research grant, I'll hire some geneticists and see if I can make it happen.    big grin

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« Reply #47 on: 03-06-2002 21:03 »

I liked the episode, but Zoidberg's part ran on too long again...like the ink thing in the ep of which the name i can't remember...
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« Reply #48 on: 03-08-2002 13:46 »

Quite good episode but certainly not the best they have done. Some of Zoidbergs bits felt a little forced, but they were on the whole funny. It was odd in that the entire episode focused on a couple of support characters with very little input from Fry or Leela, an interesting change but I hope it doesn't become too regular.
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« Reply #49 on: 03-08-2002 13:49 »

 
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Anyway, I agree with people who said that Kif is much less funny, or interesting in general, without Zapp, and who said that the Zoidberg stuff was funny but overdone. I don't have original ideas.  big grin Decent episode, not the worst, definitely not the best.
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« Reply #50 on: 03-08-2002 14:44 »

 
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and who said that the Zoidberg stuff was funny but overdone

Yeah-heh. I think I am the one who phrased it that way, but someone else had the same basic criticism before me. I think if they had cut just one or maybe two short Zoidberg scenes, it would have come across as much funnier. I like the end punchline though. "Money doesn't make good people, nosiree!"
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« Reply #51 on: 03-17-2002 11:31 »

Well, as always I'm a bit behind on this reviewing-thingy, but eh..

Some very good things, and some not so good things in this episode.

I'll agree with the people who complained about the way Zoidy was used. It's totally in character for Zoidy to be mooching, and wanting to be accepted by the Wongs, but  entirely becoming their son was taking it a bit too far. The start with the champaggin, tv, and caviar was good and so was the end: "money doesn't make good people, nosiree".  laff

It was nice to hear about Kif and Amy's relationship again. That one have been tucked away for way too long. It was handled pretty well, although Kif was portrayed as a thad to meek and subdued. I always liked Kif, and I'm more picturing him as a intelligent and rather shy person, who long ago resigned to the fact that he would always be damned with the Zapper as his CO. I liked the jabs and scating remarks he made about the Zapper in earlier episodes and the glimps we've seen about his competence. It showed that if given the chance Kif could (and would) stand up for himself and fight for his shot at happiness. I'm sure I had a point about this somewhere. Ah well. Kif was a tad too meek, and only halfway through the episode did we see any indication as to why Amy would date him. But the rest of the episode was great stuff about Kif and Amy, both during the buggalo drive and later when Amy was kidnapped.

And was it me, or did the animators invest a lot more work in Amy in this episode. She was almost as goodlooking as Leela (keyword here is: almost).

The Zapper, well what can I say? He was golden from start to finish. But you can always count on him to deliver the stupid remarks and cool quotes of an episode.

Surprisingly little use of the rest of the cast, but that's fine with me. Sometime they gotta concentrate on the smaller characters to evolve them, and move the overall plot of the series along. Some hillarious lines from Bender and Farnsworth though. "Damn you old man!!" and Benders two quick lines. "Toolatethisismorefun! [boom]"  laff

The Martians and the Wongs was pretty solid too, and I loved the ending with the diamond. "Land, schmand!"

Overall not in the same league as "Roswell That Ends Well" and "Tale Of Two Santas", but easily on par with "Love & Rocket" and above "AOI II".
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« Reply #52 on: 04-21-2002 15:44 »

A below average episode, it had too many stupid lines and Zoidberg pretending to be part of the Wongs family got annoying.  It relied heavily on the minor characters, which I guess is good every now and then, but it just didn’t seem special. My feeling after one viewing is meh, it’s still a good episode but considering this is Futurama it should have been better. I found Amy’s parents started to get annoying too, they’re best in small amounts. I also thought that the scene with them in the eye of the storm seemed long and dragged out.

Anyway, onto the good points, I really liked some of the visuals of Mars, we got to see more of the desolate, deserted Mars than we did in “Mars University”. I’ve always liked Kif, and, as usual he was pretty good in this episode. Maybe he was in it a bit too much but he was still cool, the smoking stuff was cool too. Zapp, although hardly in it had the best lines of the episode, pure gold. It was cool that the Buggalo weren’t thought up solely for this episode, we saw them as far back as the second episode “The Series Has Landed” at the farm on the Moon, but didn’t really now anything about them back then. It’s little touches like these that show how much thought has gone into the show, and makes it more enjoyable. Overall it had some good stuff, but not up to the quality I’m used to, it may get better when I watch it more, just like “Mars University”did.
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« Reply #53 on: 04-21-2002 15:50 »

I didnt think it was as good as Leelas Homeworld, but it was OK.

P.S Cellery, I love the sig pic of Amy....  big grin
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« Reply #54 on: 04-21-2002 16:27 »

It just aired this evening in the UK.

A-my! A-my! A-my! Oh yeah, she's a babe, all right. (Too bad she's not real, rilly.) Didn't somebody say a while back that the animators seemed to be drawing her more in my style (at ANSTATMAW) than in Matt's? Maybe they were right, because she definitely seemed taller and thinner than she did back in season 1.

But do you see me complaining? Hell no!
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« Reply #55 on: 04-21-2002 16:34 »

She was a little...well...little in series 1 but then she is a growing girl....  big grin
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« Reply #56 on: 04-21-2002 16:37 »

I agree that she looked damn sexy in this episode, after "Leela's Homeworld" I was coverted to Leela, but after this I'm not so sure.
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« Reply #57 on: 04-21-2002 18:58 »

LEELA!  LEELA!  LEELA!  and so on...

So-so episode, sort of a three-and-a-half out of five.  The Zoidberg gag got overused to death, and most of the Native Martian stuff wasn't very funny.  And OH LOOK! the "bead" is actually a mega huge diamond, but nobody noticed till now!  What is this?  Season 13 of the Simpsons?
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« Reply #58 on: 04-22-2002 11:12 »

Yup... Agree with most of what was said here.

1) Too much Kif
2) Too much Zoid-"just call me Homer"-berg
3) Amy has never seemed more cute!  smile
4) Great sing-song from bender on the trail wagon!

he he... Not the best, but not the worst!
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« Reply #59 on: 04-22-2002 13:35 »

I wasn't expecting to see this one for a few weeks, but thanks to the wonders of my university Hall of Residence's common room, I was lucky enough to be able to catch the UK première (although I missed the first few minutes). After seeing the low percentage this episode got in the reviews, coupled with the facts that I haven't really enjoyed season four so far, and I don't like westerns, I wasn't expecting much from 'Where The Buggalo Roam'. Thankfully, I was proved wrong. OK, so it wasn't as great as a lot of earlier episodes, and it's far from being in my Top Ten, but this is easily the best season four episode so far.

I've always been a fan of Zapp and Kif, and although the fact that the Zapper wasn't in it much meant that the classic chemistry between the two was missing, they still had some good lines individually. I was disappointed that Zapp didn't make any reference to the time he and Leela 'met', though - they're always funny.

Kif's meekness throughout the episode was great, and seeing him dressed up in cowboy gear for the first time - and asking Mrs Wong for a neckerchief - was hilarious. Although Zoidberg's recurring joke may have been used too often, I thought he was more bearable in this episode than he's been in a while. He was certainly better here than in 'Roswell That Ends Well', and he had the episode's best line - 'I've fertilised your caviar for you..' Another funny bit in the barbeque scene was Fry's reaction to being offered salad to go with his BBQ beetle.

The Wongs were good too, especially Amy's dad's hilariously hypocritical line about the native Martians' bad grammar. Oh, and I also laughed at Bender's line about Kif having another pretty, rich girl fall in love with him. Fry's 'where?' lines were funny, in a stupid kind of way, too.

The storyline itself wasn't that amazing, and I didn't really like the native Martians and the huge diamond parts (although the peace pipe and the 'land schmand' bits got a chuckle), but overall, a slightly above average episode. 3.5/5, or, to round it up and be nice, 4.
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« Reply #60 on: 04-22-2002 13:43 »

After watching this episode agian I found it a lot better. I was a bit too harsh on it in the first review, and I truly loved Kif throughout this episode, even without Zapp. Now I'm looking foward to "Kif Get's Knocked Up A Notch" even more!
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« Reply #61 on: 04-22-2002 13:46 »

Are you impressed that I actually gave a season four episode a good review, Otis?  wink
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« Reply #62 on: 04-22-2002 13:50 »

I'm a little surprised, I was beginning to wonder, but that's cool that your still enjoying it smile
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« Reply #63 on: 04-23-2002 21:07 »

I like kif even because I think zapp wouldn't work without him.

although this episode can't reach my alltimefav "roswell" it's still great.

zoid is awesome in this ep.
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« Reply #64 on: 05-10-2002 16:17 »

Zoidberg was funny as he decided he was part of the Wong family if a bit over done and both Kif and Amy were brilliant "Is that your camofage relex or are you just happy to see me" great line. The martians were cool too, the way they sold out like that.
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« Reply #65 on: 05-10-2002 17:07 »

Loved it.  Zoidberg funny as ever.  Kiff always makes me laugh  smile.  One of the best
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