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Off Topic => Offtopic Discussion => Topic started by: Melllvar on 04-24-2003 19:57
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I thought we should have a thread for the musicians on PEEL:
Are you musically inclined?
If so, what instrument do you play?
Who are your major influences, and how have they influenced your style of play?
Got any advice for people wanting to start a band?
I've been a drummer for over 10 years, and I've been playing in bands on the local circuit for the past three or four. My first band was a prog-rock band called Artichoke Attack and we played Porcupine Tree, Marilyn Manson and Pink Floyd covers in our set. The bands I'm in now, I've been in for almost two years.
The major influence in my style of play is Abe Cunningham from Deftones, he's the drummer I play like the most - and I absorbed his influence without really noticing. I've swiped drums parts from Neil Peart (Rush), John Bonham (Led Zeppelin) and Lars Ulrich (Metallica).
Originally posted by bart182 (in the What are you playing? Thread):
I'd like to start a band, the only problem is, I doubt I could do anything aside electro guitar and or vocals. And I suck at vocals...
I wanna name the band aggression declined, or much than more.
Good name. I wouldn't worry too much about lack of vocal style, you can develop one. As you've heard one of our bands, the singer can't really sing that well - and we get away with it. I'd say, go for it, if you can find a bunch of like-minded people who are willing to give it a go with you, there's nothing stopping you.
I'd recommend playing in a band, as it's an absolute blast. You meet loads of cool people, and there's nothing like having a crowd rocking-out to your music - infinately better than any artificial high.
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Uhh, I'm an official poster hanger for 2 Minute Nothing. (I'm their favorite too, don't tell Dillon though. She might get upset.)
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I play the trumpet.
My style is influenced by what's on the page. I can't improv to save my life. Too many things to do at once, m'thinks. I adore playing classic jazz, like Benny Goodman's Sing Sing Sing and Glen Miller's In the Mood.
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I have no musical aptitude, but that doesn't stop me from making guitar-noise with my guitar-instrument.
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I've been playing the guitar for almost twenty years now. I have been building guitars for over three years. My first band was an Anarchist/Crust punk band called the Karnivourous Raunch F.U.X. :laff: I played bass.
I played my first live show in an after hours bar (Boozecan) called the What? Gallery on March 7th 1992. I've never been without a band since. Other bands I've been in include, 5 Against 1 (Melodic punk) The Insipids (Drunken Hard Rock with punk/metal/country/blues influences?!?!) Off Day (A kind of joke side project aimed to make fun of The Offspring and Green Day) I'm currently in yet another punk band called Aging Youth Gang. I've been playing with them since 1996. Other bands I've been involved with as a session musician or temporay fill in include, The Four Foodgroups of the Apocalypse, The Torture Animals, The Zen Rednecks and Chick Magnets.
My personal musical influences have nothing to do with the music I play in my bands. Although there is of course some parallels. In AYG along with our original material we cover such old schoolers as, The Clash, Ramones, Stranglers, Buzzcocks, Alley Cats, Stiff Little Fingers and DEVO.
My live rig includes:
Gibson Les Paul Standard
Gibson Les Paul Classic
Marshall JMP MK.II 100 Watt head
Marshall 1960B 4X12 Speaker Enclosure.
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The Four Foodgroups Of The Apocalypse is a wicked name for a band!
I play regularly in three bands, and here are three tracks (one by each), which I've posted for your enjoyment.
1) Red:Shift - Servant (http://members.lycos.co.uk/melllvar/Servant.mp3)
The main band, we've toured the UK (and been seen by a few PEELers), and played some big gigs. This track is one of my favourites, and I sing on this one too (the harmony in the chorus).
2) Nerve Harvest - Dead Priest Day (http://members.lycos.co.uk/melllvar/Dead_Priest_Day.mp3)
Playing in NH can be tough, as it's different to the other two bands. I'm playing along with a sequenced backing track which is tough if you're not on it, and you cannot break away from it either. I still manage to cut loose though. This track is recorded live at a gig we played last year.
3) Ryan Shirlow & The Bloody Marys - D-Flowered (http://members.lycos.co.uk/melllvar/DFlowered.mp3)
The funnest band I'm in. Every gig I've played with The BM's has been fanstastic. This song is always great to play, as we have a posse of people who always sing along to it. It's a classic infidelity song - based on a true story, I believe.
My drum set up is:
Tama Drums and Pearl Powershifter Double-Bass Pedals. My cymbals are: Rogers 14" Hi-hats, Sabian 6" splash, Sabian 14" crash, Sabian 16" crash, Zildjian 18" crash, Zildjian 19" crash, Sabian 20" chinese, Pearl 22" ride.
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I've played brass instruments since the fifth grade. I've spent the most time learning the trombone for jazz, concert, and marching band (although I was Drum Major my senior year). In my switches from coronet to trumpet (big switch) to euphonium to baritone (another huge switch) to trombone, I've raised a slew of instruments to my embouchure. My favorite was a silver C.C. Conn that was given to me by grandfather who played it seven decades earlier. The scroll work on the horn's bell was unlike any I'd ever seen before, the case was nearly disintegrated, and the silver finish was worn down to the brass in a few areas, but there was never a horn as beautiful as it was. I played that horn until one of the support beams broke. I then started playing a not-so-old Conn I got from one of my older cousins. That's the horn I still play, and by "still play", I mean it was the last horn I played.
I haven't written much music, but I have arranged a great deal for trombone choir, jazz band, marching band, and pep band. My greatest arranging accomplishments include Pachelbel's Canon in D for trombone choir (which won an award at Solo and Ensemble competition but was later grounds for disqualification since there wasn't an original score, as I had scored it by ear) and the senior farewell song for marching band (my first 'commission' piece). The best song I've actually written was my "Theme from PONG: The movie, which actually utilized strings (something I hadn't needed to do for previous arrangements).
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I've played the guitar for about a year or two, and I've played in no bands. I like to play blues.
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Originally posted by DrThunder88:
Pachelbel's Canon.
My friend and I played the Canon for two guitars at my best friend's son's funeral. He was six and a half when he passed. :(
Here's to ya Devin!
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Sad circumstances, but that would sound sweet. Was it acoustic or electric?
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ive been playing the guitar for about 4 or 5 years now, my major influences would be Tom Morello (RATM) and Matthew Bellamy (Muse). recently ive been trying to write a couple of my own songs, they sound a bit Rage-ish while still being a bit Musey :p
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
If so, what instrument do you play?
Drums and African Drums since around 2 years.
Who are your major influences, and how have they influenced your style of play?
Uhm ... does 'every music I'm listening to' count? Hehe ... 1920s to 1960s. :cool:
Got any advice for people wanting to start a band?
I have an African drum and a drum set (a 1960s Pearl with Glitter look ... *tries to remember* 22'' Ziljian K-Ride, Sabian HH Hihats, etc...).
Also (in my Opinion :p) I can sing well good.
That's all ... any advice for starting a band?
Where to find the band members? What instruments are needed? Other technical things? Where/When/What/Who ...
My idea is to play a lot 1960s like music with the band. For exampel Beat, Bubblegum Bands, a little from the Beatles of course, etc...
Any advice is welcome.
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Advice for people starting a band?
First check local advertising, if you're looking for like minding people to form a band, there may be people out there looking for you. If there aren't, then place an ad yourself. Usually in musical instrument shops there is a notice board for people looking for musicians.
Both of the first bands I joined, I answered ad's looking for a drummer, so I didn't know the people I would be playing with. This (http://www.fibbers.co.uk/discus/messages/board-topics.html) is the message board for the local music venue in my town.
Secondly, there should be somewhere to practice and somewhere to play. A bar usually can put on music and have bands play. You'll have to look.
Thirdly, hook-up with other bands. There's never any use for being competative, it's always cool to get to know people in other bands around, then you have a 'scene'. York's local scene is based around 'Fibbers' which is the first local venue to play, there are others, but Fibbs is the only one with a house PA.
Finally, play gigs - as often as you can, they're great fun.
Now,
My first gig was with Artichoke Attack, at Wentworth College in York University, and I was petrified. In that gig was a band called The Following which was fronted by an insane Irishman called Ryan Shirlow, I didn't know him then, and were great friends now. Funny that.
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Thanks for the advices Melll. :cool:
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I've been playing "air drums" for almost 30 years, took up the real thing two years ago. When I get the chance I practice on a Tama Rockstar 7 piece kit. I have all Sabian pro series cymbals: 14" hi hats, 16" crash, 18" crash/ride, 20" ride. I usually use "sound off" mufflers when playing at home, so as to not drive the wife and kids to plotting murder.
I typically play classic rock, and some jazz. I'm definitely not ready fro prime-time yet, but I'm having fun.
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I'm clasically trained to Diploma level (DipABRSM) on piano and flute, and play to an average standard on sax, guitar (and elec. bass), and drums.
I also play jazz piano, and frequently gig with a big band or my trio around the Bristol area. I occasionaly gig as a jazz soloist. I'm heavily into synths / music technology, and so own a varied collection of keyboards, synths and pickups. I work freelance as a live sound engineer, which took me into the lighting design / operation stuff I do now. Equipment wise I prefer to work with a Soundcraft FX16 mixer, or any other comparable PA system.
Although I haven't played in a rock band for five years, it was 'a laugh' and I got to meet loads of really interesting people - you don't have to have bucket loads of talent, you just need that 'passion' to keep going at it.
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Sheep555: what is an EC8? Is it an amplifier?
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I plau the drums aswell, have done for nearly two years. I started because a friend needed someone to play drums on a GCSE piece he was doing. His first choice let him down so I had to learn two songs (Blink 182 no less, which is friggin hard) in three weeks. We sucked. I am still in a band with that same person to this date, but I fear not for much longer.
My reasons for wanting to leave are:
He's going off to uni and our bass player now lived in London. Having practices will be damn near impossible
We haven't played any proper gigs out of his school yet and he has very restrictive parents who won't let him go out while he studies for exams.
He has become an annoying left-wing activist. ;)
I enjoy playing in a band, but one where practices happen, and don't revolve around trying to get a crappy demo recorded using 3 MiniDisc players and headphones.
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i play the drums and recently i've been trying to learn bass (emphasis on trying).
and yes, i also play in a band i founded with some friends of mine. in the band i play drums, bass and i also sing. of course, all at the same time.
nah, just kidding, we swap instruments, depending on who is singing and/or who wrote the song.
influence-wise i'ld say just because it's my favourite band i'ld have to go with tony from at the drive-in (being their drummer), but in terms of song-writing i'm more influenced by bands like north of america, mclusky, sparta or jimmy eat world (i'ld like to write a song in the area of at the drive-in once, but they are just too damned good).
before anyone asks: yes we have recorded some stuff, no, we don't want to release it yet, mainly because none of the songs are finished yet. and we don't want to start playing covers.
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When I was younger I used to play the violin. I played it for 4 years and got pretty good at it.
I wasn't as good as the Robot Devil or anything but still I could get a decent tune out of it. I started playing when I was 8 so I was an early starter. I quit when I got to high school but thinking about it now I should have carried it on. I enjoyed it :)
If someone handed me a violin now I'd have no idea where to start and couldn't get a single tune out of it ;)
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When I was 8 I started to have guitar lessons at first school. Then the music teacher left, and then I left for middle school. I have no idea why I stopped learning - I think it was because music lessons were expensive at my new school. I would love to learn how to play it again, but I'd also like to learn how to play the drums.
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Originally posted by Impossible:
I'd also like to learn how to play the drums.
Yeah same here. The drums or the guitar :)
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I play the trumpet, keyboard/synth and just started guitar. I have to play trumpet for band, and it's fairly decent, but it's a beautiful instrument. I don't truly know how to play keyboard, but if you give me the keys, I can memorize them like that (*snaps fingers*). Guitar I'm a little shaky on, but it's coming along nicely. Practice makes perfect.
They Might Be Giants, Man or Astroman?, and Polaris has affected my music into an alternative rock which has the essence of all the other music genres (The real ones. No rap, pop or hiphop), and combines them to make a weird song, different from all the others. I tell you one thing, my songs will never sound the same, *cough*Blink182*cough. I currently have made five songs, not written, but implanted in my head, and am searching for some band mates.
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Oh yeah, I do play the piano too. Played since I was 9, and I like to play blues. They didn't take me in to guitar lessons 'cause I aldready played the piano :hmpf:
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Weyhey, more hot drummer chicks eh Melllvar??!! :p
Take up drums. It's easier than guitar, and guitarists are egotistical, which you two most certainly are not :D
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The world needs more drummer chicks!
Drums is relatively easy to pick up. I learned by ear, and taught myself to play. Only ever had one lesson.
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lessons can actually be rather useful though if you want to learn the complicated stuff. helps with the playing technique too.
oh yeah, something about my songwriting i recently noticed: no matter how fast the songs i write are, they are always somewhat depressed. .... i dunno why. :rolleyes:
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Even making a song about huggbees?
I learned by ear at first, but lessons taught me techniques that helped with even the stuff I could already do. It just meant I could do it better. eg. I can now play Monkey Wrench - just!
Since I bought Relationship of Command today I think I'll chart One Armed Scissor aswell. It won't be spot on, but what the hey.
Another reason to play drums - you can lose an entire band after some practice... eg. Start playing at 150bpm, then create your own beat within the beat by playing every 1 and a half notes, so it sounds like you have slowed down to 100bpm, except you haven't. Wait for everyone to catch up, throw in a really syncopated fill, then go back to 150bpm. So enjoyable.
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Despite only having one lesson, I've got drum instruction stuff, and practice a lot. Which I would always advise you do.
I'm currently trying to develop my double-bass playing skills (which, at the moment is relatively non-existant).
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Originally posted by Archie2K:
Even making a song about huggbees?
i'm virtually working on it.
Another reason to play drums - you can lose an entire band after some practice... eg. Start playing at 150bpm, then create your own beat within the beat by playing every 1 and a half notes, so it sounds like you have slowed down to 100bpm, except you haven't. Wait for everyone to catch up, throw in a really syncopated fill, then go back to 150bpm. So enjoyable.
yeah, that's fun.
or play a few beats of straight 4/4 and wait untill everybody got used to that. then suddenly change into something like 13/8 and look who doesn't lose the track.
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Speeding up and slowing down is fun, and in my early days of playing I could lose the band easily.
I'm crap at time signatures as I play by ear, most of The Bloody Mary's stuff is in 6/8 - I can tell you that much. If I listen to a song I can have it down pretty much in a few go-through's, so playing stuff is not a problem.
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I can't play anything but I love to sing.
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I have played bass for the past five years (since I was thirteen) and started out playing classic rock stuff like Deep Purple, Uriah Heep and Whitesnake. Over the past couple of years I've moved to modern prog stuff like Dream Theater and Spock's Beard. I also play guitar but not quite as well as bass, and I had piano lessons when I was 8 but gave up after a couple of years.
I try not to be influenced too much by other musicians as I don't want to end up just copying them, but there are several whom I look up to. These include bassist Mike Porcaro (Toto), John Myung (Dream Theater), Sting and guitarists Steve Lukather (Toto), Steve Vai and Roine Stolt (Flower Kings).
At the moment I play bass and do some 'singing' (depending on where you're standing :laff: ) in a rock covers band called the Ladykillers ;), and I play bass in an experimental art rock band called Evil Dick and the Banned Members (very Zappa influenced- http://www.polemicmusic.com/bannedmems.html (http://www.polemicmusic.com/bannedmems.html) ). I will also be playing some gigs this summer with my Dad and my brother under the banner of Cold Sweat, mainly rhythm and blues stuff. I get to play guitar at those :D
And my kit consists of:
Yamaha BBG 5 string
Washburn Mercury Series 4 string
Zoom BFX 708
Techsystems 200 Watt Amp
Burns Marquee (Needs a humbucker)
Korg AX1500G
I really need to upgrade my kit but I am living on my student loan...
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I had another lesson last Saturday for durms. It was a great session. If I had the time in my life, I'd practice more and try to hook up with some other entheusiasts to play on a semi-regular basis. My son wants to learn guitar, so he can play in a band with me some day :-)
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I was a tromboner from 5th grade on through to high school where I played in the marching, concert, and jazz bands. I haven't played it since I left high school many moons ago.
I started playing guitar my sophomore year in high school, mostly teaching myself. Got into a band with some friends my junior year in college. I was somewhat bored of guitar (and none of them would give up their egos :p), so I switched to playing bass. First we were called Six, then Kelli Green when we had a member change. We played out at local clubs about 2-3 times a month. Did that from '96 until '98 when the band fizzled out due to the usuall silly things that happen between bandmates. Late last year we started playing together again for fun and to record stuff.
The only equipment I have now is my full bodied Yamaha acoustic (much better sound IMO than thin profile acoustics) and a Fender Squire Jazz Bass.
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Bump.
Seeing as we've been slaving away in the studio this week, I thought I'd post a brand-new Red:Shift track.
"Destinations" (http://members.lycos.co.uk/melllvar/destinations.mp3) <now removed>
This one is Archie's favourite. It's ripped at 96kbps because I'd rather you bought the CD (when it's done). ;)
The difference from recording (previous EP's) on your own, and recording at a proper studio is glaring.
Opinions welcome.
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Melll, Destinations sounds good. Nice drum work, fellow tub thumper.
Looks like I might be hooking up with a neighbour and a few of his friends to start a bit of a garage band. Should be a blast, if we can ever get the time to do it.
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Cool, thanks.
Good luck with the Garage Band. Keep it up, it will be a blast!
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Ahhh, the memories ;)
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*Bump*
For those who may be interested:
Tomorrow night, by band Red:Shift are taking part in a Radio Show on URY (University Radio York), in which we're playing exclusive tracks from our new EP, and choosing a few of our favourite tunes to play, possibly even play some tunes live in the studio - as well as general interview related shananigens.
You can listen online: here (http://ury.york.ac.uk).
Show starts at 8pm (9pm CET, 3pm EST)
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I play bass, me and my friends are in a half assed 4 piece called "The Travolta Trio". We play in the style of the songs we play. I dont think bass players can be influenced?
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All musicians can be influenced. This is propaganda by those 'other' musicians who think playing whole notes is all bass does (and I'm not bitter at all... no, not one bit... nope...). The bass is the most important instrument in a band as it creates the feel and the structure of the song. Without it, everything else would sound crap. A bassists style can come from anything, from the type of bass he/she uses, to the sound or the notes he/she uses. Try listening closely to how different bassists play to get an idea of bass styles.
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The Bass is the most important instrument? Interesting point of view. Seems to be the drums are the fundation on which most music is based (especially but not exclusively rock and roll).
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to me, there is no "most important instrument". frankly, a band would sound crappy without a good drummer, without a bass or without a guitar (that is: if you wanna play rock).
you need all instruments.
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Then again, there are some great drum solos and guitar solos and sometimes nothing but piccollos floats my boat but hey, who gives a rabbit, eh??
BTW, Melll, is the drumming in U2's song Bad hard to play??
It's impossible to tap casually on your knee or belly or whatever you favour!
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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
BTW, Melll, is the drumming in U2's song Bad hard to play??
It's impossible to tap casually on your knee or belly or whatever you favour!
Mmmm, dunno, I'd need to listen to it.
:listens to it: (http://www.peelified.com/cgi-bin/Futurama/12-000653-17/#t648)
Nah, it's not that hard really. Everything (like Larry Mullen does a with a lot of U2 songs) is played on the snare, with bass drum punches keeping the time.
I can play "Sunday Bloody Sunday".
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i write lyrics and sing. i never learned to play an instrument and i tried, but it isnt something that comes naturally to me.
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to me, there is no "most important instrument".
Hmm, I think I may have used the wrong term. What I should have said was that bass is the most important part in music, whether the bass be a guitar, tuba, bassoon, and so on. It is all a matter of point of view but the key point is that bass is the foundation that the rest of the music is built upon. The lead instruments will play the melody on top of the bass, while the drums build the rhythm around the bass (while this is less so in rock and metal, jazz and swing rely on the bass to keep time rather than the drums. And let's not forget classical...).
Of course, this is just my opinion and what I was taught as a bassist. Music isn't defined by a set of rules, but I do get ticked off when people resign the bass as 'that instrument that doesn't do a lot but every band has to have'.
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
Nah, it's not that hard really. Everything (like Larry Mullen does a with a lot of U2 songs) is played on the snare, with bass drum punches keeping the time.
I can play "Sunday Bloody Sunday".
It just struck me as your non-usual repetitive beat thing. Cheers!
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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
Originally posted by Melllvar:
Nah, it's not that hard really. Everything (like Larry Mullen does a with a lot of U2 songs) is played on the snare, with bass drum punches keeping the time.
I can play "Sunday Bloody Sunday".
It just struck me as your non-usual repetitive beat thing. Cheers!
It's a pretty cool song to try to paly along to. There's enough flourishes in his beat paterns that it isn't dead easy, but like Mell says, it isn't too tough.
As for the whole bass / drums / whatever instrument you'd care to name / is most important, I really have no strong feelings. I only sited drums as an example of an important aspect of music because they, IMHO, lay the foundation for the rest of the music. The drums set the pace and punctuate the rhythm of the tune. Each instrument plays an important part in a song (except the accordian, those things are an abomination ;-).
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Drums were the 1st human music, afterall.
Birds I believe were the 1st to claim it on Earth:
Birds: "Suckers!!!"
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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
Drums were the 1st human music, afterall.
Birds I believe were the 1st to claim it on Earth
I'm willing to bet that singing was the first human music :)
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It's all cyclical. Drums play with vocals, it's a truism that drummers don't know where they are in the song without the vocalist to tell them where they are. Everything else goes to the drummer.
Listen to "Behind Blue Eyes" by The Who - the heavy section, and you see an example of a drummer (Keith Moon) who plays to the vocalist.
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Originally posted by sheep555:
I'm willing to bet that singing was the first human music :)
I WIN!! HAHAA! HA!
Why, you ask?
Because I'm not held back by such minor negligible details as the truth!! :p
Drums, singin, it's all in the same boat.
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i play the banjo and the trumpet. as a matter of fact, i just bought a new, very expensive, banjo the other day($1100). i can also make noise that resembels music on a ukalalee.
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Is anyone in the UK going to Music Live 2003 at the NEC? I'll assume you all said 'never heard of it' and will proceed with an explanation.
Music Live is a musicians convention which most big names companies will attend for demos, displaying new gear or simply to attract new customers. It covers almost everybody involved in music, from guitarist and drummers to DJ's and stage crews and for the most part you are free to roam around and play as much as you want. Hell, some stands even encourage it! Of course, there's cheap kit to buy and, if not anything else, you can get great deals on consumables. There's also a stage for guest bands to play (last year was Ocean Colour Scene) and the usual 'guitarist of the year' competitions, plus lots of famous guests hanging around the stands (notably, Jim Marshall and Paul Reed Smith). AND to top it all off, there are talks on subjects such as Sound Recording and how to make it in the music business.
I don't want to sound like I'm getting paid to do this, but this really is a great day out. I've been to it every year for the past three years and always enjoyed it, and most of the time I got back the ticket price on all the freebies they hand out :D. I just thought I'd spread a little happiness by mentioning it, and maybe I'll see some of you there :)
EDIT- Oh, and check it out here (http://www.musiclive.co.uk/mlhomepage.htm)
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*Bump*
Mainly because I wanted to post this pic of Red:Shift in action. Taken by an excellent local band photographer, Lucy Whitmore. I'm in there somewhere.
(http://cgi.akpcep.plus.com/lucy/images/redshift/rs2.jpg)
I signed my part of Red:Shift's record deal with local label Confidential Records yesterday, signed mainly to secure copyright and publishing through PRS (http://www.prs.co.uk/) & MCPS (http://www.mcps.co.uk/), so that when records get played, we get money for it.
Also, they distribute our CD worldwide from their website. Means that we have a decent sounding demo (recorded at their studio) and can flog it anywhere in the world.
If you like that photo, by the way, Lucy's site is here (http://www.lucywhitmore.co.uk). She's cute too.
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Ah, another musician thread that I missed. I play electric guitar in my band and I also sing.
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'Hil, do you have anything recorded, that you can post?
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We recorded a little, but I can't post it due to several facts:
First, I don't know much about how to do that, and don't try to explain cause my I can't do that with my computer.
Second, we suck and we don't really want to get it on the internet yet. We'll stick to community gigs.
So, basically, sorry, but no. Not yet at least. But it's possible.
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If you have anything on CD you can sort that out.
The only other PEELers band I've heard is Lurrr's. What a gip!
My recordings (from every band I've been in):
Artichoke Attack - "The Legend Of Rhey EP"
My first recording, and only production credit, done in an afternoon using my Fostex four-trak. Tracks:
Recreation
Recovery
Poppy Fields
Long Way Home (Live)
Red:Shift - "Myillnessmademelickcars EP"
First proper studio recording, done on 40-hours of non-sleep (in between two nightshifts). Disappeared into mixing-hell for six-months and rescued by our sound engineer, Jimmy. Tracks:
Kinedin's Dream/Sketchy Epic
Paul
Sixteen
Spirit Level (Live)
EarthnoiZe - "Live At Fibbers: Jan 2002"
The gig where we almost killed frontman Bob, and my first one with EarthnoiZe. Was an utter blast, we should bring back this band. Tracks:
I Am Mutant
Global Rage
Two-Foot Slipper
Cup Of Tea
Take
Desire To Pryor
EarthnoiZe
Red:Shift - "Violent Cop EP"
Recorded, mixed and out on sale within a week. We'd arrnaged a CD Launch gig, and didn't have a CD. Four of the punkiest R:S songs on this one. Tracks:
Anti-Everything
Better Place
Careless
Paranoia
Red:Shift - "Earthstationalpha"
A mixing desk live recording of Red:Shift's biggest gig so far, in front of a few hundred punters at the Waspaid Benefit at York's biggest venue, The Barbican Centre. Tracks:
Destinations
Anti-Everything
Thousand Suns
Servant
Ryan Shirlow & The Bloody Marys - "White Label"
Recorded (over a longer period of time) in the same method as "Violent Cop", is still great to listen to. Ryan sells these for 2 quid at gigs. Tracks:
4-Sarah
Shit Father
So Cold
D-Flowered
Sympathy
Shit Father (Reprise)
Nerve Harvest - "Initial Replication"
Live EP from Industrial Metal band - with customary attractive chick-bassist, heavy. Tracks:
Dictator
Firesoilslave
Gutfucker
Dead Priest Day
Red:Shift - "Black Ops EP"
We took time over this one, and Ryan worked hard to get the sounds better than "Violent Cop". We toured off this one. Sounded good too. Tracks:
MFTNY
Servant
Thousand Suns
Captain Black
Red:Shift - "The Big Nowhere"
Just finished. Recorded at a proper studio with a proper producer, also got us a proper publishing deal. Currently preparing to promote this into the ground. Sounds the best we've ever sounded on record. Fact. Tracks:
Stenton
Like Fools
Destinations
Nerve Harvest - "The Device"
As part of NH's record deal (yes, they have one too), we're recording a proper EP at a proper studio - same place as "The Big Nowhere" - we start recording next week. Tracks:
Firesoilslave
Gutfucker
Winter
Dead Priest Day
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Wow, we're not that big. Besides being really young, we only play at like community parties or festivals if we're lucky. Your band sounds awesome. We only have a few CDs with recorded stuff to just keep records of our position. We just make up songs, record em, and if we like em enough, play em live when we get a chance. We don't go anywhere cause we're just plain too young and not good enough, but we're getting there. Our first CD:
Simply X-Tra (That's our band name which is most likely going to change)
Dreams
If They Lived
Two Roads
Fooled
Why It happens
Lessons
Yeah, each song is about 3 minutes, 3 random instrument banging minutes. Yeah, we make fun of ourselves hell of a lot. Good luck to your band's future!
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I like to play guitar and I usually play alternative rock.
Or proggresive metal.
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Originally posted by Futurama_Hil:
Yeah, each song is about 3 minutes, 3 random instrument banging minutes. Yeah, we make fun of ourselves hell of a lot. Good luck to your band's future!
Thanks. If you wanna hear some of the earlier recordings, here are our MP3.com pages:
(now with Parental advisory removed)
EarthnoiZe (http://www.mp3.com/EarthnoiZe) (Speli's favourite)
Red:Shift (http://www.mp3.com/redshift_uk)
Ryan Shirlow & The Bloody Marys (http://www.mp3.com/thebloodymarys)
Nerve Harvest (http://www.mp3.com/NerveHarvest)
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The only other PEELers band I've heard is Lurrr's. What a gip!
What's a gip? Should I be insulted? :p
We've had a big change in our sound since our drummer left. Since our keyboardist has moved onto drums we've had to change the songs to fill out the sound more. He's also got some drum pads for even more wildness. Somehow we've ended up sounding weirder then we did to begin with.
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Insulted? No, no, not at all. There are a few PEELers in bands, and the only recorded stuff posted is mine (and your CD, which I have) - I'd like to hear more.
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I started at about the age of 5 playing piano and continued learning and studying the instrument for about 10 years. I got up to about 8th Grade, and also completed 5th grade Theory and Musicianship.
I then picked up the the Clarinet for a year, but transitioned to the alto Sax... and played for about over 8 years (and about 5 years with Soprano Sax). Through highschool I was in an awesome Big Band (we actually did gigs!), as well as a Concert Band (who often won interschool eisteddfods). It led me to audition for a new Marching Band that was being assembled for the Sydney 2000 Olympics. It would become the largest Marching Band in the world during the Opening Ceremony with 2000 members in it (Can you imagine tuning up to 100 Sousaphones alone? Holy crap it was awesome).
I haven't played properly for about 2.. maybe 3 years now. Unfortunately after highschool, and soon after the Olympics I couldn't find a band to my standard and it left me out of practice and I eventually strayed from performing. I still love the idea of huge bands. The bigger, the better I say! (as long as they're tight).
So now I"m on the other side. I finished a course in Sound Production/Audio Engineering and plan to keep that up and work with musicians for a long time. I've recorded my boyfriend's band (rock and roll baby!) a couple times as well as many other unknown artists, as well as a few live gigs. All good fun, as long as I can be around awesome musicians it makes me happy nowadays. :)
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And Ninaka did that bootleg-remixy thing, which she kindly sent me, that was cool. I still have it.
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Wow, that big band thingy sounds, uh, big!
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I play guitar but I'm not in a band because I've got no friends.
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Aww, that sucks. I guess we could always use an extra guitarist...
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I need a drummer. I got a pretty good band otherwise. I'm trying to convince all my friends to take up the drums. But I need a good drummer. With his/her own damn drums.
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I took up the guitar at 21 - straight down the music shop with my first ever wages. Nowadays I have 3 guitars, a bass and Peavey amp. And since I play mostly 60s music, I've got a Boss TR7 tremelo pedal too (listen to those notes wobble!)
I do a good version of 'House Of The Rising Sun' if nothing else :)
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I am a classically trained string bassist. Right now I am working towards my performance degree at my university's school of music. And for extra money, I do jazz gigs.
I also play electric bass, but not nearly as much as I play string bass. I use electric mainly for funk jams.
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I need a drummer and a bassist. I can sorta play guitar and my sister also plays, so I could use her if I was desperate.
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Whoever needs a drummer, where are you from? I think Archie's going spare.
In other news, Red:Shift's new EP is released (http://www.confidentialrecords.fsnet.co.uk/newrel2.htm#redshift). Woo!
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I can play the guitar like a mother fucking riot
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I know how to play the drums but I really suck. Our drummer is fairly good, at least for our age.
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I'm in Australia... dammit.
Can anyone play the Brighton Rock Solo on guitar? If they can... they are cool.
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I've been learning to play bass since February last year, still learning and I've just got into a band a couple months ago :D We do cover songs, mainly rock stuff u can dance 2....As u probbaly already don't know I'm a metalhead but I enjoy playing anything, music is my life so bring it on :D
I love bass and yeah I also don't like ppl who think bass is just background noise....in a way it is and I have 2 admit I haven't really heard a song without it (unless it was piano or sumthing obvious) so I dunno what difference it makes....a lot I guess lol
Anyway ROCK ON everyone.... :D
And I haven't really been influenced by anyone in particular, I like 2 think everyone has their own style.... :)
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Im a bassist. Im a Top of the page bassist
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I may be recruited into another band sometime soon. Matt (my bandmate in Red:Shift, Nerve Harvest, and The Bloody Marys) is forming another band with two drummers (including myself), and everyone taking lead-vocal duties.
I've been wanting to form a band myself, but as singer instead of drummer (York's drummer-drought is mainly responsible for me being in so many bands, in the first place).
I don't sing that bad, really. I'm kinda in the same register as Brandon Boyd (Incubus), Mike Patton (Faith No More), Dave Grohl (Foo Fighters), and Jason Perry ('A') - in other words, at the high-end.
It's worked for harmonies on Red:Shift so far, so I'd like to see how it goes on lead-vocals.
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I'm head tech and Webmaster for HyperSimon.
Samples are available on their website, http://www.hypersimon.com (http://www.hypersimon.com)
Online CD ordering will be available soon (as soon as they open a bank account :)), and if there's one track that you like, I can probably clear a full song download for you.
The single that's getting radio play across the United States is "A Car Song."
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I can play the drums, the harmonica and the acoustic guitar, the only problem is that I am tone deaf, so I cant really sing, and I have to have someone tune my guitar for me, but other than that, I'm not that bad.
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I play the bass. I've played in a funk band, a metal band back when I was in high school and there was still some real metal, and now I'm trying to get a hardcore band off the ground but my damn guitar player is too lazy to play. My influences are too varied to list, I have a couple of cheap basses, I'm about to buy a used Music Man for way too much money, and my amp is a Baby Blue II, the best bass amp ever.
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Bizarre experience at the gig I played last night, involving one of the other bands.
We're soundchecking, and the other bands are arriving. Matt is letting in the second band, and the drummer says something like "Don't be too surprised if I jump over the kit and kill him *gestures at Lead-Singer* tonight."
Their soundcheck decends into an onstage ruck involving musical differences (Singer: "We're not playing too guitars tonight, I have to cover the drummer's backing-vocals, coz he's pissed".) There's lots of to-ing and fro-ing between the two, calling each other, and so on.
When it gets to their performance, Jimmy (our friend and sound engineer), cuts them off before they finish their set (their time was up, and they'd fannied around for a lot of the time), Didn't make them much happier, smashing beer glasses in the dressing-room.
Last thing anyone saw of them, was they were outside having a mass discussion on whether or not they should split up there and then.
Poor dears, must be tough when you're a struggling artist.
BTW: Red:Shift played blindingly, albeit with a few fluffs at the beginning, but the end of the set was awsome.
I got some pics taken, and will post them when I get them.
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That's funny. I played a show a number of years ago where the opening band for us broke up then and there in the bar after their set. It ended with the bass player smashing his bass over the hood of his car and throwing his stomp box down the street. I recovered it and it still sits in my parts drawer. Free Boss LM2B anyone? :)
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My covers band, the Ladykillers, have a gig tomorrow but we haven't practiced in weeks so we're going to what we always do: rehearse the set tonight, set up tomorrow, drink copius amounts of alcohol and rock the place out! Lot's of fun, and we get paid for it too :D
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Cool, I wanna be in a covers band, sounds like a blast.
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I've just found out I've got to prepare four ensembles / rock bands for a college competition in a months time...eep! :)
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Originally posted by Spice Weasel:
That's funny. I played a show a number of years ago where the opening band for us broke up then and there in the bar after their set. It ended with the bass player smashing his bass over the hood of his car and throwing his stomp box down the street. I recovered it and it still sits in my parts drawer. Free Boss LM2B anyone? :)
I always find it funny how infantile arguments can be between bandmates. I swear band fights are the closest thing you can get to being in a relationship without actually being involved with someone.
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That's sooo true.
However, our band disagreements are normally quite civilised. One almost got out of hand, but we nipped it in the bud fairly quickly.
Nowadays we normally quibble over setlists.
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The reason our current line-up works so well is that all arguments get sorted as everyone is willing to compromise. And that's why the previous line-ups failed - someone always knew best (even if he had no talent).
Originally posted by Melllvar:
The only other PEELers band I've heard is Lurrr's. What a gip!
You have mail.
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Aye, downloaded the first song. The sound quality is hellishly poor (how'd you record it?)
Your singer sounds like Tim Wheeler (from Ash). That's a good thing.
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Using three microphones, a PA system and a MiniDisc player. Thus the appalling quality. We intend to buy some studio time in the future when we have recruited a fourth and final member.
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Originally posted by Archie2K:
Using three microphones, a PA system and a MiniDisc player. Thus the appalling quality. We intend to buy some studio time in the future when we have recruited a fourth and final member.
Hmmm...although the technical limitations of MD can be annoying (on a standard 74 minute MD, you're recording 5 times worse than CD quality, although you need a decent audio setup to notice), I've had very few quality issues with a similar setup (two AKG3000s going into a Spirit NotePad, feeding via XLR into a live CD recorder).
Obviously it's only really good for recording live - but I really can't afford to book into a professional studio to do some tracking - I make do with an original issue iMac running Logic 4, through a USB soundcard. Loads of latency, but it does the job. When it's not crashing :)
Again, a big problem I have with recording live, is that I'm not normally at the CD Recorder, but mixing the seperate PA system. Therefore, it can often overload during a very load applause...I guess I need four hands...
In the meantime, if anyone can offer me tips for pulling off a live version of Massive Attack's Tear Drop, I'd be glad to hear it!
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I play the keyboard. I had lessons for about 2 years when I was about 10, and I have just recently taken it up again. The keyboard I have is an ancient Yamaha one though, I think an upgrade is in order once I fully re-learn to play. I can play the Futurama theme! :D
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Cool, I had to learn to play piano in school last year. I was actually really good, until the more complicated two handers came along. Forget that. Guitar for me, baby.
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Well the Futurama theme actually doesn't have chords if you listen to it, but I made them up to be D and E anyway, it sounds right to me! I also spent a whole day working out the tune and chords to The Portrait (Titanic piano solo). Maybe I'll record it and put it on the Internet (somehow)...
The guitar always looked like a really hard instrument to play compared to the piano/keyboard, and I wouldn't know since I've never tried, what is it like?
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Well, I wouldn't be the best example, since I only began playing a year ago, but you practice- you get good. I remeber it was really hard to move my fingers in the correct orders and as quick as I should when I started. Many people give up (my sister being one) since they think it will be too hard, at least from what I've heard and seen. But eventually you get good, with practice. So, yeah, it is pretty hard. I still have trouble.
It would be cool to hear you playing the theme on piano, once I learn the notes I may try it. I can also try it on the piano, why not?
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It won't exactly be a piano, it will be an electronic keyboard doing a pretty good impression of a piano! I'll try and use the mic on my laptop to record it, I can't think of a better way.
As for learning to play, I found it so much easier to pick up playing the keyboard again because the ability to read music as well as listen to it and work it out from that comes back quicker than I would have expected. We have a guitar but one of the strings is broken, so no chance of trying to play that until it is fixed.
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Well I guess that's it... Kult of the Dead Rockstar are effectively on hiatus. Hard to practice when your guitar player is going to another country...
...and just when we got a decent promotional material going. The idea was make sticky labels that say "Kult of the Dead Rockstar are better than..." and the webaddress. Then stick on whatever we feel like insulting today... bands, political parties, movies etc. etc. :p
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Originally posted by Ozor Mox:
It won't exactly be a piano, it will be an electronic keyboard doing a pretty good impression of a piano! I'll try and use the mic on my laptop to record it, I can't think of a better way.
If your keyboard has L/R jack inputs (or a headphones socket), use guitar leads (or a stereo lead), with a Jack to MiniJack adapter on the end. You should then be able to put your keyboard into the mic in on your soundcard (all sound cards have mic inputs, but some laptops don't).
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New band, new danger. (http://firstdatecrime.netfirms.com)
Basically, it was decided by myself and Matt, that people would actually come to see us, if we had two sexxy chicks in the band. I know I would.
We're putting some riffs and sequenced backing tracks together, and we'll see where we go from there, but it's always exciting starting a new band.
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I play the drums, Tama ArtStar, and Harmonica. Both self taught.
Melllvar, you look like MAtt Groening. really.
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Only in that picture (probably).
My drums are TAMA Rockstar (as are FilthyCrab's), they're the drums of choice.
FDC comprises three-quarters of Nerve Harvest, while (NH singer) Orgo's away in Blackpool, we're gonna do this with Maggie in his place. Will be like NH but more of a hip-hop feel.
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I play the sax, piano, and I sing. For the sax, it's mostly jazz improv. But I save all the classicals for the piano.
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Me and Hil are friends in real life out of the interent too, we have been since kindergarden I think. We started a band recently and I play lead guitarist. I don't really think we're so great though.
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There's talk going round the band I'm in that out teacher might make me cut my hair once we start getting regular gigs, to "fit in with the image"
Bollocks to that, I'll quit the band before I cut my hair....been growing it 2, nearly 3 years now and it's finally getting past shoulder length....I know image is important but I don't care, my hair is who I am man....! :p
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Went to a drummers symposium night before last with Davd Garibalidi of "Tower of Power" (old school funk). Very cool. David talked a lot about motivation and how he approaches writing and practicing. I think I may actually have learned a few things (happens if you're not careful).
I highly recommend going to see David at one of these sessions if you get the chance (he does them in conjunction with ToP tours, so he may be in your area soon).
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Oh, I love Symposia.
I've always wanted to go to a Drum Clinic. Steve White (Drummer with Paul Weller, and elder-brother of Alan, drummer with Oasis) is a well-repected session drummer, and tours the UK giving clinics.
Maybe, I'll get of my ass and go to one.
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Dude, who doesn't love symposia??? Seriously, David gives a great session - he started out by playing a 10 minute solo that was very mind-blowing. Then talked and did lots of demos of rythms and such.
Sounds like seeing Steve White could be pretty cool too.
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You might be interested to know that Nick D'Virgilio is doing a drum clinic in Derby soon. He's the drummer for Spock's Beard, and a pretty impressive musician. Also, Steve White is appearing at Music Live 2003 (http://www.musiclive.co.uk/musiclive.htm), although I don't know what he's doing. I'll be going anyway to spend my money :D
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Originally posted by Gleno:
There's talk going round the band I'm in that out teacher might make me cut my hair once we start getting regular gigs, to "fit in with the image"
Why would your band have a teacher? Do you pay him to teach you all how to behave like rock stars? :)
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Teacher/manager, it's a music school he does both....he's been in the business for a lot of years and knows the score....And I already know how to behave like a rock star....*Drinks 5 bottles of scotch, vomits all over himself then goes on stage* :D
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Some good band-related news today:
Nerve Harvest are doing a gig with one of my favourite bands, Apartment 26 (http://www.apartment26.com). I saw them supporting Fear Factory a few years ago, and have got their first album "Hallucinating". Now, I'm gonna play a gig with them.
My new band, FirstDateCrime is possibly forgoing the backingtracks idea, and recruiting a turn-tablist instead (Matt's mate Ozzie, who's a professional DJ, and is pretty damn handy on the wheels of steel) - how cool is that? I can't wait to get this band up and running. It's gonna be so cool!
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I can't think of any other place for this, and this is probably the best place as all musicians will appreciate it.
Today is the tenth anniversary of Frank Zappa's death. I only found this out from another forum (and, coincidently, Evil Dick's practice was cancelled today as well) so I didn't know until today. He was a great man, and music is worse off without him. He would have only been 63 today.
That is all.
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oh yeah, i should maybe post in here again, because... my band has no room to practice in anymore. we lost the one we used to play at.
sadly, we don't have the equipment to just play in some garage...
so, i guess our band (which was lazy already anyway) will be pretty much inactive if not dead. but hey, we managed to record some shit, it just sucked. :p
and me and a friend will keep writing songs, dammit. :p
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Originally posted by Lurrr:
Today is the tenth anniversary of Frank Zappa's death.
Oddly enough, I was told only today that I look like one of his session musicians from the 70s.
Godspeed, Frank.
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Keep writing Spiff, you never know what might be around the corner.
I've had lots of band-related stuff happening recently. Still going forward in the new year with new band, FirstDateCrime - which currently features Matt, Charlotte and Myself from Nerve Harvest plus singer Maggie and turntablist, Olli - there's also tenuous plans to involve former EarthnoiZe members Bob (rapper) and Will (guitars) which will make FDC a seven-piece.
Can't wait to get started on that.
Another band, with Matt and Charlotte, this one a punk band, three-chord and three-part harmonies. Should be fun, if we ever get it started.
There's a brand new Red:Shift website (http://www.redshiftcentral.com), which has been taken out of my hands, thank goodness.
Oh, and I'm gigging tomorrow night.
EDIT: How many full-time bands do we have on here now? We so could put together a gig with all of 'em (especially the UK ones).
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
Keep writing Spiff, you never know what might be around the corner.
yeah, i actually have an idea for another project which will just consist of me (and maybe sometimes a friend). it'll only involve drums, bass and lots of effects. i plan to record it completely with my computer, does anybody have a good recording software he could recommend for this?
i'll toy around with the whole idea during my christmas holidays, if it works out i'll post some of the finished stuff here...
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I think you wanna go with Cubase. I'm not the most experienced at these things...
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Melll, I KNOW that Kult will be up for that. Playing alondside bands who acrtually have fans, and EPs. :D
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I think you wanna go with Cubase.
I'd agree, or with the budget version, Cubasis. There are other sequencing programs out there but Cubasis/Cubasis is the simplest and best supported. I use Cubasis for making demos myself, although with my crappy soundcard they don't sound great. I intend to use my Dad's studio for the final recordings but the demos are useful for figuring out how everything sounds. (Sequencing software is pretty expensive though so I'd suggest 'acquiring' it from other sources ;))
Melll, as always ED would be up for that- if we can get it organised of course. Also, I've been asked to join a Black Widow tribute* band with a mate of mine (also a Futurama fan) and that should be taking off soon. We haven't met yet but I know it will take us very little time to learn the material, so if we're ready by then I'm sure they'd like to join in too!
*We're starting off as a tribute band, and once we've established ourselves we'll start making some original material. Plus, we get help from the original members of Black Widow :D
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Cubase is a good piece of software, although I use Logic - (I converted to macs just before Logic was scrapped for the PC, so I was OK). Obviously using Logic isn't now a viable solution for PC users. Cubase is probably the best equivalent.
Note that Cubase (and Logic) are dead cheap for students - you may wish to purchase rather than "obtain". You say "drum and bass" - you might be interested in Reason, which is great for knocking together demos (but awful for live recording...)
However, the software isn't the main problem (IMO) - it's the audio hardware. USB audio doesn't work that well, but Tascam make a great USB Audio / Midi module. Bear in mind that a Creative Labs Soundblaster isn't the best audio card to use - M-Audio make great gear. Mics also count for a lot - you can pick up SM58s dead cheap now (although there's a lot to say for the AKG1000S). I always work with XLR, but XLR inputs for soundcards tend to be more expensive.
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thanks a lot guys, but before i spend my money on software, i'll have a go with audacity. it's free, and it's compatible with vst plug-ins...
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Personally, I think PEEL-fest is a good idea, we could get any of my bands, Davies band, Lurrrs band, Archies band - that'd be a good night.
Perhaps for a future AGI. I wouldn't mind organising it.
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I have my flute exam a week on Wednesday or Tuesday.
I don't think I'll do very well.... :hmpf:
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I play the flute...what grade you taking?
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Grade 5. I've been on that for about three years so I know the pieces pretty well, but I am very bad at scales, arpegios and all the dominished and dominant 7ths etc. and i haven't even STARTED on the aural tests.....
Ah the joy of fluortism....
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It's a shame that mp3.com is down at the moment.
I would have liked to hear something from Melllvar's band... :(
Anyway, I think it's about time I post something about our band, but be warned we suck.
The name is "beeswax polish" and we are playing now for a couple of years.
The problem is, we are all too busy to get something going because about 2 years ago 3 of our band members moved to Vienna which is 300 km away and since that time we hardly ever play.
Thus we only have about 5-6 gig per year and we haven't got much time to write new songs (or pratice the old ones...).
Also we aren't that great musicians and since our band meetings have become so rare I don't play much guitar anymore.
Anyway we recorded a few songs about 2 years ago with our harddisc recorder but they sound like crap (especially the drums).
If anyone want to have a look at it the homepage (which is in German, by me & crappy too...) is
here (http://www.beeswaxpolish.net).
And the old mp3's/rm's:
Fruit of my own falseness (http://lupo.besonic.com/audio_003/0062/732/79164Fruit_of_my_own_falseness.mp3)
April (http://home.pages.at/beeswax/web/mp3/BeeswaxPolish-April.rm)
Oh, and don't mind any english spelling and pronunciation errors as well as the timing problems of our drummer.... :)
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MP3.com will be back in another form. Besides, we'll have some MP3's up soon enough.
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I believe the guy who runs the Way Back machine offered to archive all of MP3.com's catalogue...
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I am thinking of starting a more punky style band. I have recently felt the need to scream more. Anyway, I have written a few songs, and got some people interested, but I would like to know what other musicians who are more used to playing fully electric guitar at gigs think about what guitar purchase I should make.
I have recently come into some money, of which i am willing to spend up to Ģ800 on a guitar, (my current electric is a telecaster which i like for slowish indie songs, but not faster ones).
So, what guitar in my price range would be best for gigs, for a lead/rhythm guitarist?
Also any ideas on new amps, speakers, pedals etc.?
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a les paul would do the trick, although it might be out of your price range. i have a strat with dimarzio "humbuckers from hell". look into replacing your factory pick-ups for something better suited to your style of play.
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I play in a punk band and the only guitars I use live are Les Pauls. You would be hard pressed to find one in the UK for 800 pounds. If you like that thick humbucking sound as well as long sustain, try to seek out a Les Paul Studio. They are the most reasonably priced Les Pauls, Standards and above are getting further and further out of reach price wise. One of the better import guitars I have come across recently is the PRS Tremonti SE. They are made in Korea, good workmanship, nice flat radius fingerboard for fast chords and shredding as well as being very well priced. You can buy a Tremonti SE and a have enough left over for a couple of pedals, a case of beer and some earplugs. ;)
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I'm a D.J... meaning that I actually "play" the turntables... I'm a scratch artist.. I have one tidbit of advice to give to anyone who wants to even remotely think about starting a band... get a cover song you ALL like to play qnd practice it to begin with, then go for some originals... but the point is that you NEED,... desprately need... to get organized immediately... then from there tension will build and if you're really meant to be together as a band you will work through the tension and eventually things will become so casual you wont even realize it and you will begin to have fun as you practice... but it needs to be a mandatory routine with a practice ethic to keep improving and not make the same mistakes over and fucking over again.
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I've played in a half a dozen crappy bands, and I agree with TLGD. Cover "Shake Some Action" until you're sick of it, just find some excuse to always be practising. No other way to do it. And the SG is a good punk guitar, too. And while I'm agreeing with people, I think Zoidberg74 is right about replacing pickups. You got to build it so it's just right for you. I got a $250 bass and I screwed with the pickups and electrical, and it sounds better than my $800 bass.
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I have my grade 5 exam tomorrow.
I should really stop messing around on the internet and practice. I don't know some of my scales, any of my arpegios and the dimished 7ths are awful.
Any last advice Sheep555 or any other flurtists??
EDIT:
I just had my flute exam today.
It was rubbish.
I had a sore throat so I couldn't play any note higher than "C", my throat also made the rest of my notes quivery, I forgot all of my fingering, because I was so racked with nerves and felt really dizzy that I screwed everything up. :hmpf: :(
AH well........... :rolleyes:
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Some Band News on the Melll front:
Red:Shift's up and coming London gig will be the last Red:Shift gig for the forseeable future. We've decided that R:S has pretty much run it's course, and we need to do something new.
I've got a new band coming up which'll be with Matt from Red:Shift (called Samurai 5) and I will still have The Bloody Marys.
It's not being defined as a split, as the band will probably perform as Red:Shift every now and then (by request), but we've given up writing any new material.
It's like the end of an era....
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News:
I passed my flute exam!
Hurray! I think they must have bribed the examiner or something because I got five marks off a merit and my tonsils were falling out. Something smells fishy.... but i'm not complaining, I'm just happy that I passed :D
Thanks Faze ;) and well done for holding back the joke...
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Well done!!
*Tries to hold back that American Pie joke*
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Phew!
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Well, last Friday Evil Dick played in front of our biggest audience yet. There were probably forty people there, most of whom are experts on different aspects of Frank Zappa's music. And we played to them. We did good :D
Well, sort of. We were really nervous to start with, and the pub was so full that the audience was barely a foot away from me. But we got through all of the set without an embarrasing cock-up, or a piece of equipment breaking down. And we must of impressed someone since Dick managed to sell a few CDs too! Hopefully, we may get some more gigs out of it.
In other news, I planned to record some of the stuff I've been writing at Christmas but I was very lazy and didn;'t finish writing the material. So instead, I'm working on some better (and final) versions of the demos.
Also, I may be forming a band with a female bassist I've found in Leicester. No plans on where we're heading but I'm guessing we'll playing just about anything, and everything. Should be fun!
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http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/kultofthedeadrockstarmusic.htm (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/kultofthedeadrockstarmusic.htm)
There's three songs available for download. We'd have more but I don't have any webspace yet. Excuses is the only one recorded at Something Positive Psudios, the other two are on track "live" recordings which are genrally terribly out of time.
Shame to hear that Melll, but what whatever seems right I guess. So this means I'll be at your farewell gig? Cool!
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Indeed, so let me know if you want tickets for this last Red:Shift show, as I'll hold them for you.
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1 definately... I'll see if I can drum up (no pun intended) any interest.
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Music has been interesting lately. I've joined a funk rock band on rhythm guitar with some kickass musicians, so this should be pretty cool when we get out and play.
The strange thing is, both the bassist and singer are lesbians (they're aren't an 'item' before you ask!). It's weird that the first time I work with female musicians they both happen to be lesbians. And they're both a bit mad too. Well, we all are. I just seem to have a lot of mad friends.
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I've been playing drums since I was about 4. So I've been playing for about 15 years. Im kinda in a small punk rock band right now, but its going absolutely nowhere. Idealy I'd like to get into a Classic Rock band, but I don't know anyone that is into that kinda stuff that plays an instrument. A man can dream though....a man can dream :cool:
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Originally posted by Yinger36:
Idealy I'd like to get into a Classic Rock band, but I don't know anyone that is into that kinda stuff that plays an instrument.
Believe me dude, if there was more people like you in my town, i'd SO start a band with you.
Anyway, I'm an avid guitarist and have been playing for a long time. I am currently not in a band, but am looking to start one soon. I play a few Rickenbacker and Fender guitars and am probably going to buy an Epiphone Casino. I love Classic Rock music (Beatles, Beach Boys, Led Zeppelin) but am a fan of Metal, Punk, Grunge, and yes...even a bit of Jazz/Blues.
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My band broke up on Monday and I think I already transitioned into a new one. I'm wondering how the first practice will go...
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Originally posted by Lurrr:
Music has been interesting lately. I've joined a funk rock band on rhythm guitar with some kickass musicians, so this should be pretty cool when we get out and play.
The strange thing is, both the bassist and singer are lesbians (they're aren't an 'item' before you ask!). It's weird that the first time I work with female musicians they both happen to be lesbians. And they're both a bit mad too. Well, we all are. I just seem to have a lot of mad friends.
I've always liked female musicians in bands, I've worked with two female bass players in the bands I've been in.
Since the last time this thread was bumped, I've joined a new band, AudienceWithACrisis, replacing their old drummer who's gone off to Japan.
Very akin to Funeral For A Friend and Earthtone9, this one. More of a rock-beast. :D
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Hey Mel, what kinda drumset/cymbals do you have? I got a '98 Tama Rockstar w/Sabian cymbals. Got it for my birthday. Picture here (http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img12&image=YingSet.JPG). I have different heads on it now and I added another cymbal. I'm working on upgrading the cymbals to a better grade too.
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(http://members.lycos.co.uk/melllvar/mydrums.jpg)
Cymbals: Sabian 8" Splash, Sabian 16" Crash, Zildjian 18" Crash, Zildjian 19" Crash, Sabian 14" Crash, Sabian 20" Chinese, Pearl 22" Ride.
I've cut my kit down to a four-piece, so it doesn't look like that anymore.
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Originally posted by Lurrr:
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Music has been interesting lately. I've joined a funk rock band on rhythm guitar with some kickass musicians, so this should be pretty cool when we get out and play.
The strange thing is, both the bassist and singer are lesbians (they're aren't an 'item' before you ask!). It's weird that the first time I work with female musicians they both happen to be lesbians. And they're both a bit mad too. Well, we all are. I just seem to have a lot of mad friends.
That rules Lurrr, there'll be no sexual tension between you....you can concentrate on rockin'....! :p....
Good luck....!
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I used to play flute. I currently play piano and trumpet, and am (hopefully) starting bass guitar at the end of the school year. Within school, I play trumpet for band and am in choir.
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I'm so thrilled there's a thread like this here!
I play clarinet in the school band, and I'm trying to learn drumset as well. :D
If only I could sing... *wince*
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I play this...
(http://www.strike9.com/file.ashx?path=/OzorMox/fullsize/piano.jpg)
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Cool. It's one of those unplugged keyboards.
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Nah, the plug is round the back! :p
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Hi! I'm a professional musician - in fact I am Europe's top female steel drum player. I studied orchestral double-bass and piano at the Guildhall Shcool of Music (undergraduate) and did a masters in music performance at City of London University. I spent several years playing in mostly baroque orchestras until the chronic back pain got too much and then decided to have a change of career. I had already been playing steel pan (as it is properly known) since the age of 15, so began to promote myself as a solo artiste. I work with backing tracks that I programme and produce myself with the help of my fabulous sound engineer and co-producer Dave Hyde. I also play hand percussion and some kit too. For further info and MP3s you can go to my 'business' website at
http://www.steelpan.co.uk (http://www.steelpan.co.uk)
My current big news is that I am preparing the launch of my second cd - "Pan On The Run". We finished recording yesterday, and just have to mix , master and duplicate. I think it sounds really good (even if I say so myself!) and a bargain at $25 (inc p+p, I am in England). Hope this isn't too spammy! :)
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Ooh. Carribean.
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i play the euphonium
negative 500$ to the person who knows what it is!
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I am relatively confident that it is some kind of oblong version of the tuba- a little lighter in tone.
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dingdingding! we have a winner! now will the money be made in professorland fun bucks, neopoints or ooy money?
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I played piano for five years and can still read music. . . so I want to take up the sax. I've wanted to learn sax since I was a kid and wasn't allowed. Now that I'm working, I'll get my friend - clarinet player - to come shopping for a second hand sax with me, and then I will start.
At least, that's the plan!
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Woo Holly, go for it....!
It's never too late to start music.... :p
I only started 2 years ago and I'll probably be going for the rest of my life.... :D
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That's what everyone keeps telling me . . . must get it in writing so people won't blame me when I deafen them.
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Originally posted by Gleno:
Woo Holly, go for it....!
It's never too late to start music.... :p
Yeah look at all the Rappers and pop stars. Theyve won f*cking grammys and they dont know music!
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Dear Holly,
Please start taking up music now. I hereby disclaim my rights to criticise your music in the future.
Yours,
Archie2K
NastyPasty: Blanket statements like "all the Rappers and pop stars" sound silly. I don't like rap music on the whole, there are some that I like but on the whole it's just not my scene. However I'm not going to try and claim that they are all talentless. Rapping isn't easy to do, and listening to the clever ways in which most rappers put together their lyrics is impressive, especially when done ad lib. There's a vast difference between you not liking a certain genre and them "not knowing music".
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@Archie: You Can't Spell CRAP without RAP. MuthaFucka!!!
Yours Truely,
Sir Pasty
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Some of the lyrics are rather clever actually. It's just a shame the music is so utterly dreadful.
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I wouldnt even refer to it as music.
Here read this article: http://errantv8gt.tripod.com/rap.html (http://errantv8gt.tripod.com/rap.html)
It makes so much sense.
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
@Archie: You Can't Spell CRAP without RAP. MuthaFucka!!!
Yours Truely,
Sir Pasty
You know, for someone who doesn't like rap, you sure talk like you do. Obviously you haven't heard anything in the underground. I may not like it either, but go listen to some non-mainstream rap before blowing your mouth like this.
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
but go listen to some non-mainstream rap before blowing your mouth like this.
*listens to underground rap, throws up, laughs ass off at this "music", throws up again, listens to GOOD music to calm nerves and makes another anti-rap post on PEEL*
So i repeat: YOU CANT SPELL CRAP WITHOUT RAP!!!
Once again, Yours truely:
Sir Pasty
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I'm not one to side with Rap as being good music (there are a few good songs out there), but you still gotta give credit to the rap artists. They are good at what they do, even if it isnt the greatest music, but a lot of people listen to it.
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Oh Jesus-tapdancing-christ!! Do i have to say the saying again?! You'd think all you guys would hate Rap by now from me just saying it repeatedly.
Go listen to some Rock music and shut the hell up.
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Face it Nasty, you're wrong. Just dead plain wrong. And as for your saying, it's not making me hate rap more, just you. Please stop this. And I'm more grind than you'll ever be. Let me guess, you're one of millions who say that's not music either...
There's a new guy where I work who apparently plays guitar. He was wearing a Fender shirt, he seems like a cool guy. As for music in the stereo at work, I was working with one of my friends(the kid who got me the job) and it turned into a metal fest. I put in some Dead Milkmen at first, then some Lightning Bolt for something a little heavier. Then my bud here puts in some Slayer and that gets me in the metal mood, so after that ends, I put in some Soilent Green, and then when that ends, he puts in one of my Burnt By The Sun CDs. Also, between his leave and the new guy coming in(between 4 and 5) I put in some Luddite Clone. A nice touch.
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*falls asleep half way through TLI's story snoring and muttering You can't spell crap without rap*
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If you want to hear rap with actual instruments like guitar, bass, drums, etc, go listen to Group X or The Roots or something. Please, even that article only addressed mainstream rap. I don't think I can explain any clearer than that.
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Rap can be good, when mixed with other genres, 28days (Rap-Rock), Sek (Rap-Industrial/tech)... a lot of other aussie bands i know of, pull it off quite well.
I can't say i'm a fan of rap on it's lonesome, but some of it is well involved, so i can repsect it.
And if i see one more post from Nasty Pasty, telling us the same thing again, I'm going to flip.
At least tell us why you hate it, instead of pissing and moaning like a generalising, bitchy little 10 year-old.
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
Go listen to some Rock music and shut the hell up.
Actually I prefer dance music. :p
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Originally posted by my truly wonderful friend Holly:
I played piano for five years and can still read music. . . so I want to take up the sax. I've wanted to learn sax since I was a kid and wasn't allowed. Now that I'm working, I'll get my friend - clarinet player - to come shopping for a second hand sax with me, and then I will start.
At least, that's the plan!
That is really cool Holly :cool: I hope you manage to do it :)
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Originally posted by Rage Dump:
And if i see one more post from Nasty Pasty, telling us the same thing again, I'm going to flip.
At least tell us why you hate it, instead of pissing and moaning like a generalising, bitchy little 10 year-old.
A good article i found on Rap music. It explains my point: http://errantv8gt.tripod.com/rap.html (http://errantv8gt.tripod.com/rap.html)
And PS: I prefer to be refered to as a bitchy 17 year-old.
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You already posted that in this thread. And I made my response to it. It only addresses the perils of mainstream rap. Obviously the guy who wrote it isn't well informed either.
In other music news, I have school off on Wednesday due to some conference thing, and we're going to try to have our first practice that day. We'll see how it goes.
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I have my concert tonight... God I'm nervous. Wish me luck. :hmpf:
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luck :)
I got a German test tomorrow morning.
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My band just booked our first gig since January for June 18th and iam so fuckin stoked. Ive had such an urge to play and my trusty Rickenbacker has been sitting in its case for weeks now, itching for a chance to gig. Can't fuckin wait.
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Thanks, Zombie Jesus! :D Good luck on your German test, too!
What kind of music do you play, Nasty?
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Can you do a tour of Reading so I can heckle you and call you crap without reason? Go on, it'll be fun.
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Come to my gig on Wednesday! We need hecklers so it looks like we're big enough to have people who hate us!
Good luck 3/4 of a Jesus! Just imagine the audience in their underwear and you'll be fine ;)
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Originally posted by 3/4 of a Jesus:
What kind of music do you play, Nasty?
In this band i mostly play classic rock (Beatles, Beach Boys, Led Zeppelin, Springsteen, etc) but i do throw in some Metal or Punk in there every once in a while. But once again, mostly classic rock (which is my fav type of music)
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Geeze you guys lighten up....you either like rap or not....no biggie, I like Eminem and that's it....meh anyway, my band might also be starting to gig very soon....
Lurrr good luck at your gig too....I'd come and throw tomatoes if I could.... :D
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Originally posted by Lurrr:
Good luck 3/4 of a Jesus! Just imagine the audience in their underwear and you'll be fine ;)
Wow... that would make me vomit, onstage too! :puke: Not that I don't appreciate your advice :laff:
And, Nasty... The Beatles are my gods. I hope you guys do their songs justice. :D
My favorite Beatles song is probably Across the Universe.
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Originally posted by 3/4 of a Jesus:
And, Nasty... The Beatles are my gods. I hope you guys do their songs justice. :D
My favorite Beatles song is probably Across the Universe.
I got this supposed rare version by the Beatles and Ravi Shankar. I got more of his songs that I have Beatles songs. My dad's a Beatles fan, and my sister was too.
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Beatles are my favorite band, and most of my favorites were written by good ol' John (who is also my favorite singer/songwriter).
I like: A Day in the Life, Across the Universe, Revolution, Help!, Come Together, Happiness is a Warm Gun. And overall, he is my favorite solo Beatle. I love to do versions of Imagine, War is Over, Woman is the Nigger of the World, and Cold Turkey among others at my gigs.
War is Over! If YOU Want it! -Peace&Love from Nasty Pasty
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I bow to you, Nasty Pasty... someone who has good taste in music. :D
Hmm... Zombie Jesus, that must be one good track. Ravi Shankar is wonderful, and I am a big fan of the sitar itself. It would be a fun instrument to play, but I don't think I could find one around here. :rolleyes: Honestly, here in bumpkin town there's absolutely no culture.
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Originally posted by 3/4 of a Jesus:
I bow to you, Nasty Pasty... someone who has good taste in music. :D
After all the Anti-Rap crusading i did earlier in this thread, youre the first one to say that. :)
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Then let me be the first to say that the Beatles are shit.
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
Then let me be the first to say that the Beatles are shit.
Lemme be the first to say: screw you douch.
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
Then let me be the first to say that the Beatles are shit.
I would like to second this. If you ask me, they were highly overrated, seemingly the New Kids Of The Block or Backstreet Boys of their day. Give me 50s rock over the Beatles at all times.
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How dare u compare the Beatles to New Kids on the Block! At least the Beatles played instruments, were good vocalists, wrote amazing songs, and were more than a one year/ one hit wonder like those crap groups u listed. I highly doubt we'll be hearing Backstreet Boys songs in 40 years.
But i do agree with you liking 50's Rock n Roll. I love Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly, but still they dont match up to the Fab 4.
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It's not even the boy band Beatles I object to. It's when they became hippies. I hate hippies. And their experimentation wasn't interesting, musically, once they had drifted into mysticism.
But people, even in the rock and roll establishment, still act like the Beatles are so good it trivializes whatever you happen to like, and if you don't agree then there must be something wrong with you and you should be made to feel bad.
And Chuck Berry does rule. Far, far more than the Beatles.
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Oh so you prefer the boring i love you, she loves me, she loves you lyrics to the deep, powerful lyrics of their later songs (Post Rubber Soul). You probably hatr their later stuff b/c you havent heard any of it (instead sticking to the safe "She Loves You", "I Want to Hold Your Hand" era songs)
And yes, i am trying to make u feel bad by not liking the beatles. Thats what society and people who have GOOD Taste in music do. Deal with it.
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I hate lyrics with emotion. All lyrics should be criticisms. Those are always my favorites.
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
I hate lyrics with emotion. All lyrics should be criticisms. Those are always my favorites.
Cool, i'll write a song criticizing you. That'll float your boat.
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I think the Beatles play "nice" music, but they don't ROCK with a capital "OCK" like Spinal Tap or anything...
And you can't dance to Beatles music like you can to You Never Can Tell. ;)
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Hehehe, i love Spinal Tap. Great movie.
"But this goes to 11."
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
And yes, i am trying to make u feel bad by not liking the beatles. Thats what society and people who have GOOD Taste in music do. Deal with it.
I should have clarified. I've never actually felt bad about anything.
I think lyrics about criticism are limited because they're always just about criticism. Like protest songs are just about protest. These songs suck. I think all songs should have lyrics about how I think women biathletes are hot.
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While I appreciate good lyrics, frankly it doesn't matter how 'deep and meaningful' they are. I'm one of those few people left in the world that listens to music, not what a song is saying.
But people, even in the rock and roll establishment, still act like the Beatles are so good it trivializes whatever you happen to like, and if you don't agree then there must be something wrong with you and you should be made to feel bad
Yeah, I also find a lot of Radiohead fans do this. I hope one day they discover the existence of 'opinions', instead of pulling out the old 'good taste' argument.
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If you guys don't like the Beatles, it's ok with me. I won't force you to like something you don't like. :D
And, yes, I forgot exactly WHO said this, but 50's rock is good, except I don't really like Elvis much. :hmpf:
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Well, today's gig is now officially the most pointless gig I've ever done. You know a gig's going to suck when you turn up at the venue to find out that all three of the other bands have dropped out (was it something we said?!?) and your audience consist entirely of the bar staff and a few mates you called up half an hour earlier. It was funny since we didn't have to care much about making mistakes and could basically piss around, but after all the effort to go through with it I feel like I've just wasted a night.
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What about jazz? Do you Beatle-bashing, metalheads like jazz, which unlike a lot of rock, is much more complex and intelligent?
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Pffft, Jazz!
They're just making it up as they go!
I can do that!!
Watch: "Do doo do doo dododoo!" :D
Some jazz is ok, other stuff gets boring sometimes.
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I love Jazz and the Blues. Next to Rock and Metal, its my favorite type of music. I find it very relaxing and calming when i'm in a tense sort of mood.
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I do like Jazz (I took a class 1st Semister in college on the History of Jazz). I'm also a bit into Fusion.
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I can appreciate jazz as long as it doesn't have a horn section.
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Jazz is ok and can be fun to play, too, but I don't really listen to it.
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Real jazz is great! I've been learning some jazz stuff in my drum practice including reading leadsheets and such. It's fantastic and very intricate and a world apart from rock/funk drumming.
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My aspiration is that some time before I leave high school, I will do a jazz solo in a concert. God, that would be wonderful. :D
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Not my kind of music to listen to, but I love playing jazz. Out of interest, does rag come under the jazz category? Only I thought they were different styles but I found a rag piece in a jazz book.
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In February, i went down to Hilton Head, SC on vacation and i forced my folks to come to dinner at this local Jazz Club. It was a great meal and a amazing band. Had a pianist/singer, drummer, a Sax player, and one of the best Jazz guitarists i've ever seen. He was playin a custom-made 7-string Benedetto guitar which he told me cost (get this...) $50,000!!! I almost shit myself when i heard that. And believe me, after hearing him play it, i think it was worth the huge price.
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Wow. :eek:
I don't have that much money, but it does sound like an awesome guitar...
I'm lucky that my clarinet was actually a hand me down, so I didn't have to pay for it. I might take up sax for next year though, who knows? It would be fun, I'm sure... but I'd have to pay for a sax. :hmpf:
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My friend plays sax, and he's pretty good. If you can get into a band as a sax player, it would rock because the Sax adds such a great sound to a Rock Band (example: Bruce Springsteen & the e street band).
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So true, so true... :D
I think that it would be a while until that happens though, considering I haven't started playing sax yet. :laff:
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Originally posted by Lurrr:
While I appreciate good lyrics, frankly it doesn't matter how 'deep and meaningful' they are. I'm one of those few people left in the world that listens to music, not what a song is saying.
Me too....that's why when I'm listening to Rammstein, or Dimmu Borgir and somebody asks "How can you like that, they're not speaking/singing/yelling in English....?" I reply with "I don't care, have you heard this riff...?? :eek:
Originally posted also by Lurrr:
Well, today's gig is now officially the most pointless gig I've ever done. You know a gig's going to suck when you turn up at the venue to find out that all three of the other bands have dropped out (was it something we said?!?) and your audience consist entirely of the bar staff and a few mates you called up half an hour earlier. It was funny since we didn't have to care much about making mistakes and could basically piss around, but after all the effort to go through with it I feel like I've just wasted a night.
[Zoidberg]A gig is a gig....![Zoidberg]
Seriously, you probably enjoyed yourself anyway, I would have....any chance to play live, even if it's just for one person is still better than nothing....
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Originally posted by Gleno:
Seriously, you probably enjoyed yourself anyway, I would have....any chance to play live, even if it's just for one person is still better than nothing....
So true, I've played with my band in bars with NOBODY in them but the bartender and still had a great time. We spent most of the time Fucking around and it was totally fun.
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*bumpety*
Yeah, I did enjoy myself. Frankly, no matter how much I moan about it, I love just getting involved in these things, it gives me such as buzz! But when you really build up the energy for a gig like this, and if the other bands had brought as many people as we did the house would have been packed, only to find all the other bands dropped out is quite a letdown.
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Originally posted by Melllvar in a different thread:
Sorry for going off-topic, but, why not? I think one should always give their all when pursuing dreams or ambitions. Singing (in a band?) is not out of anyones reach (at all, I've seen some simply abominable people get up on stage).
If you want to continue this, Otis, we'll take it to the musicians thread.
Yeah, I was thinking along the lines of singing in a band. I appreciate your encouragement, and to some extent I think I can sing (but not brilliantly or anything). However, in a pathetic sort of way, the touring lifestyle isn't really for me. Singing and recording is one thing, but the whole touring thing (I know you love playing live and stuff which is clool) but I'm more secluded into the artist's lifestyle. The only way I could see it happening is if I sung and used my art as the whole image for the band (although it wouldn't just be me singing of course, because that would suck) like the Gorillaz, but not as sucky, and it'd be totally different to that...
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I've been dragged as an emergency player for a gig this Friday - problem is, I've also got to sing, which would be alright, but I've got to do Stevie Wonder... :)
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
Yeah, I was thinking along the lines of singing in a band. I appreciate your encouragement, and to some extent I think I can sing (but not brilliantly or anything). However, in a pathetic sort of way, the touring lifestyle isn't really for me. Singing and recording is one thing, but the whole touring thing (I know you love playing live and stuff which is clool) but I'm more secluded into the artist's lifestyle. The only way I could see it happening is if I sung and used my art as the whole image for the band (although it wouldn't just be me singing of course, because that would suck) like the Gorillaz, but not as sucky, and it'd be totally different to that...
Anyone who wants to pursue ambitions in music, will always get my support an encouragement. To be honest, I don't know why more people don't do it.
The best thing to do would be to research your local music scene, and see if there's anyone looking for a singer (to be honest, I think that having the art-angle is a good one, because bands ae always on the lookout for people who can supply any 'image'). Worrying about your voice, is secondary anyway, as I'd said that I'd seen some bands who have terrible singers.
Things like 'touring lifestyle' I hadn't even thought about. I have done a tour, but it never occurred to me that it would be much stressful (in all honesty, it was, our best gigs were at the beginning of the tour, by the end, we were going through the motions somewhat). But that was only because we didn't consider logistics enough.
That said, that's something that you wouldn't even have to commit to. It's notoriously hard for any band to get beyond playing in their local scene anyway.
When I started, my ambitions were always small (play in a band, play live, play live in front of an audience, record, play at the Uni's end-of-year gig, have CD's out, and so on...), I kept it that way to try to avoid huge disappointment which comes with being in a band (sometimes, especially if you do things like "battle-of-the-bands", which sucks beyond description).
I'd always say 'go for it' when doing anything like this, because I hadn't realised how easy it was to break into - plus, at least you could say that you'd done it. Right? :D
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Can I just take this opportunity to invite any (British) PEELers to the launch party of my new CD? It gonna be great fun - we've got me (of course!) and Aces Crew (reggae djs) Jamaican Kitchen providing caribbean food, drinks promos and Carnival visuals. (God those visuals are taking me forever!)
check the link at http://www.steelpan.co.uk (http://www.steelpan.co.uk)
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Thanx for your encouragement Melll, I guess these things are worth a try. And yeah, start low is a good tip. That's something a lot of modern "pop stars" don't do, and they just burn out as fast as they came... Also, my brother is very musical too, which helps.
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No problem, Otis. Anytime. :)
Originally posted by cyba:
Can I just take this opportunity to invite any (British) PEELers to the launch party of my new CD? It gonna be great fun - we've got me (of course!) and Aces Crew (reggae djs) Jamaican Kitchen providing caribbean food, drinks promos and Carnival visuals. (God those visuals are taking me forever!)
check the link at http://www.steelpan.co.uk (http://www.steelpan.co.uk)
You're in Brighton? One of the best gigs Red:Shift ever played was at the Hanbury Arms Ballroom.
The launch gig sounds cool, I'd love to, but I'm stuck oop-north.
I listened to the clip of "Pan Woman", I like it!
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Originally posted by cyba:
Can I just take this opportunity to invite any (British) PEELers to the launch party of my new CD? It gonna be great fun - we've got me (of course!) and Aces Crew (reggae djs) Jamaican Kitchen providing caribbean food, drinks promos and Carnival visuals. (God those visuals are taking me forever!)
check the link at http://www.steelpan.co.uk (http://www.steelpan.co.uk)
Sounds cool - I'd go, but I'm stuck in Bristol, the "trip-hop" capital (ie, the only sucessful music ever to come out of this city).
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In other music news I'm having a big party at the end of August and I've been trying for weeks to get a make-shift band together for just one huge appearance at my party. And finally it's comming to fruitition. I got a friend of mine to play Rhythm guitar and vocals, another friend to be the drummer, and another for keyboard and backup vocals. That coupled with me on Lead Vocals and Lead guitar is gonna make for one hell of a show. Practices are going to start soon and I'm comming up with a songlist comprised of mostly classic rock. Here is what I got so far:
-"Revolution" by the Beatles
-"London Calling" by the Clash
-"99 Red Balloons" (the harder Goldfinger version)
-"I Wanna Be Sedated" and "Rock&Roll High Skool" by the Ramones
-"Heroes and Villains" by the Beach Boys
-"Something" by the Beatles
And then after all that, we finsh up the set with a hard, rocking version of the Futurama theme. I'm fuckin excited. :D
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If you don't sing 99 Luftballons in German, you're just a poser.
Try some other Futurama related songs:
Walkin' on Sushine
TV Party
Tom Sawyer
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
And then after all that, we finsh up the set with a hard, rocking version of the Futurama theme. I'm fuckin excited. :D
Is it possible to get that recorded and posted here, or sent to me? I'm interested in how you sound! :)
Originally posted by canned eggs:
If you don't sing 99 Luftballons in German, you're just a poser.
Try some other Futurama related songs:
Walkin' on Sushine
TV Party
Tom Sawyer
If it has to be German, then please do the old original Nena version from 1983, the new Nena version is shit!
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Dont worry guys, I'll do the song in German, since i speak it fluently. And GFF, I'll try and record it somehow but basically what we are doin is similar to the Rock versions of the theme on www.gotfuturama.com. (http://www.gotfuturama.com.) Check those out and you'll get an idea of what we're gonna do.
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Originally posted by 3/4 of a Jesus:
I'm lucky that my clarinet was actually a hand me down, so I didn't have to pay for it. I might take up sax for next year though, who knows? It would be fun, I'm sure...
Lemme tell you as a Clari/Bass Clari player who went sax for jazz and marching (Bari and Alto),
any IDIOT clarinet player can learn sax in two weeks. It's like the same only simplified, easier fingering. It's the same as flute and recorder, too.
For music, i heart Eric Dolphy in freeform, Basie for big band, and for concert band, Gillingham and Ticheli-w00t to Blue Shades
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Originally posted by Shaucker:
It's like the same only simplified, easier fingering. It's the same as flute and recorder, too.
Not exactly the same, only similar. The top octave of the flute is pretty much different.
Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
the Sax adds such a great sound to a Rock Band (example: Bruce Springsteen & the e street band).
...any Pink Floyd song with a sax is good :)
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I went to my friend's place and after playing some hackysack outside, we went in and while he played Counterstrike, I played his bass and then his little electronic drum pad thing. He hasn't been playing bass long. I don't think he plays much either but I could be wrong. Then he came over here and I jammed for him on guitar. It was cool. I felt like I was actually good.
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
I felt like I was actually good.
Good for you, Lampy! :D
Well, it's official- I'm a first clarinet in my wind ensemble now. Of course, that's probably not all that exciting to you guys with all the talk of guitars and drums... :laff:
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
Then he came over here and I jammed for him on guitar. It was cool. I felt like I was actually good.
Always good to rub your talents in other people's faces...
:D
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Originally posted by 3/4 of a Jesus:Well, it's official- I'm a first clarinet in my wind ensemble now. Of course, that's probably not all that exciting to you guys with all the talk of guitars and drums... :laff:
I'm happy for you..and care not for guitar/drum talk..yay to woodwinds!
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Huzzah! Shaucker, we will prevail!
But, more on topic...
We did some sightreading today, and it was very hard ass stuff. We had to play in 7/8 time, and I got by, but it was difficult. I was mostly piggy-backing, I'm ashamed to say, because I suck at sightreading. However, I'm going to copy the music and practice it all Summer so I can intimidate the freshmen. :D
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3/4 of a Jesus, I love the name. Now I have a new reason to praise you... I think you're the first person ever to consider her clarinet skills "intimidating".
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I have just joined another band as of today. I have been told that they suck, and they kicked their old drummer out fgor sucking more. Alas one jam can't harm. I guess I'll just have to get my old rock drumming skills out again (been practicing a lot of rudiments and jazz stuff recently).
In other news, my guitar player still sucks for living in a foreign country. I appeal to all Danish PEELers, get him expelled from your country as soon as possible :p
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I went to a music store today that I always go to, and there was some band setting up to do an acoustic set there. This was my only justification for staying, since I had no money. The thing is, I think I've heard people here talking about the band. Some band called Auf Der Mar...well, in any case, we walked out after the second song, because it was seriously hurting.
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Auf Der Maur. Some chick-fronted band, right? I think I've heard of them. I find it hard to believe Auf Der Maur is her real name.
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7/8? Hard? Mwee, I consider 7/8 a piece of cake, considering I'm presently more used to 8/8 in both 3+2+2 and 2+3+2, and 9/8 in 3+3+3 and 2+3+2+2...sightreading? My advice is to join a community band where you play a lot of stuff in a little amount of time (don't practice at home) or do a musical theater pit, which has a lot of key/time sig switches.
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Thanks. I just might do that. :D
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Melissa Auf Du Mar is the former bassist for Hole. That must be her solo project.
Caveat Emptor.
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There's your explanation....Hole suck :p
Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
And then after all that, we finsh up the set with a hard, rocking version of the Futurama theme. I'm fuckin excited.
I wanna hear this as well....as I said to a workmate the other day in reference to Spiderbaits version of Black Betty, "Any song turned heavy is good...." :D
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Originally posted by Spice Weasel:
Melissa Auf Du Mar is the former bassist for Hole. That must be her solo project.
Caveat Emptor.
Is she the one who replaced D'arcy in the smashing pumpkins.
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Originally posted by Gleno:
There's your explanation....Hole suck :p
I wanna hear this as well....as I said to a workmate the other day in reference to Spiderbaits version of Black Betty, "Any song turned heavy is good...." :D
I'm basically doing it similar to the Rock Version of the theme on gotfuturama.com
Here is the chord progression:
Strum each each chord only once.
Chords:
F# F# B B E E A A F# F# B B E E A A Ab
F# F# B Bb E E A Ab F# F# B Bb C# C# A A Ab Ab F#.
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Originally posted by Spice Weasel:
Melissa Auf Du Mar is the former bassist for Hole. That must be her solo project.
Caveat Emptor.
Originally posted by mikey:
Is she the one who replaced D'arcy in the smashing pumpkins.
Yes and yes.
I heard some of her songs, it's okay. But I suppose an acoustic version of her music isn't really all that good...
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Just got back from a songwriting seesion with my new band. Everything's looking good- we've got two songs each from the main songwriters (both guitarists and the bassist) which we're going to concentrate on which should make it easier for everyone. It all sounds good though- Neil (lead guitar) is pulling out some good bluesy riffs as well as some jazzier stuff, Petra (bass) has some harder rock stuff (mainly power chords for me) while me, being awkward an' all, put forward a chilled out jazz thing, and a tune that doesn't want to settle into a proper genre.
Our only problem right now is finding a band name. As you can see, we have a lot of different influences and don't stick to a particular genre so it's hard to come up with a name. Currently in the running are:
Kashmir (probably already taken)
Sauce
Hamrag Yattlerot
Too Late for Sushi
Any more suggestions?
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Originally posted by Lurrr:
Kashmir (probably already taken)
Yep: here (http://www.kashmir.dk)
I don't have any suggestions though...
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Originally posted by Lurrr:
Kashmir (probably already taken)
A Zeppelin fan i see.... :)
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Got two suggestions:
Omi Stoned
Ebola Nine
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*bump*
I have my band exam tomorrow morning first thing. Wish me luck! :D
Does anyone remember how to find the minor scale form of a major key, though? I had notes on it, but they were lost in the black hole I call my locker. :hmpf:
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play it from the fourth note.
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Thank you!
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Mugger Can't Believe Crap Victim Has On MP3 Player
BOSTONFollowing the successful mugging of a jogger in Franklin Park, petty criminal Derek Mesker announced Monday that he cannot believe the shit he's found on his victim's Philips 20GB MP3 player. "3 Doors Down? Maroon 5!" Mesker said, scrolling through the songs. "The new Counting Crows?! Man, I'm glad I pistol-whipped that motherfuck." Mesker added that the first thing he did was toss the device's "gay-ass" teal neoprene case.
Bwahahaha...all hail the Onion!
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I thought Maroon 5 was gonna be good because I heard they were so funky. I heard their album; it's just overproduced bland crap.
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I like one song by them, "She Will Be Loved". I think it has a pretty cool beat and great lyrics.
I might add it to my band's setlists.
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
I thought Maroon 5 was gonna be good because I heard they were so funky. I heard their album; it's just overproduced bland crap.
I liked them before, but now I've heard them so much on the radio that it's boring and repetitive. And, anyway, the song they have released is one of my least favorite of theirs, and hearing it repeatedly just lowers my opinion of them. 'tis a shame, if they weren't overplayed I'd probably still like them...
:nono:
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too true 3/4, If i hear "This Love" or "Harder to Breathe" one more god damn time, I'm goin to rip the balls of that f*cking DJ with my bare hands.
"WITH MY BARE HANDS GOD DAMN YOU!!!!"
....ok it aint THAT bad.
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I don't listen to the radio ever. I wasn't even aware they were getting airplay. I've only heard their stuff a few times.
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Where is it written that radio stations have to have ads, stupid dj's that never shut up and dumbass competitions that require no skill to win....?
Why can't they just have non-stop music 24 hours a day....?
Isn't that why radio was invented....? ok probably not but these days don't we turn on the radio to listen to music....?
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You could say the same about television or the internet. Radio is another good place for promotion, so it's used for that, much to the listener's annoyance. Radio adverts always seem to be so much more annoying.
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Originally posted by Gleno:
Isn't that why radio was invented....? ok probably not but these days don't we turn on the radio to listen to music....?
There isn't a major radio station around here that plays what I'd call music. They just play shit. The college radio here is no better either. Most of the buttplugs just play the same old thing the major radio stations play. It's annoying.
I often find myself listening to very obsecure stuff, so I'd say good ways to find new music is doing things like talking to people in Soulseek chats. They know a lot more than I do.
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I hardly listen to the radio either unless I have to, and the reason I don't is because of the crap they do play....and the ads shit me to tears.... :nono:
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Although here in the UK the BBC radio can be pretty good - a couple of years ago I was listening to John Peel, and he played what sounded like the chipmunks on speed. The record was rather short, and cut out after around 2 minutes. A rather surprised John Peel says "Oh. That was supposed to last longer...oh right, I've played it at the wrong speed. Well, it still sounded good to me" :)
Moving back to musicians, I recently obtained a nice Sudiologic MIDI controller (neat stuff, handles just like a piano, with actual hammers inside it) and a Roland XV-2020 module to go with it (interestingly, one of the patches is called "The Gender Bender"...)
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Quite a good radio station that airs in London is Resonance 104.4, its mostly non mainstream music, avande garde(sp?) and stuff like that. It also ocactionally plays good electronica, which is kinna hard to come by. Also another good thing about it, is that it is all run by donations so there is no ads at all on it, which is a plesant change. Word of warning though, since it is all non mainstream stuff, you do sometimes get the most pretentious shite on it, and other random stuff that you would have to have a really spectalised interest in music to listen too. so you kinna got to strike it lucky when you listen to it.
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My band's been played on Resonance FM! We ('Evil Dick and the Banned Members') were featured on Ben Watson's show the Christmas before last.
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Pitt Clemens sings the harvest moon soundtrack (http://www.14rivers.com/Pitt_Clemens-Harvest_Moon-4_seasons_of_the_blues.mp3)
This is by far NOT the best recording I've done of this song, but it's the best I could get online.
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Well, I'm starting a band finally. I've honed my guitar skills into a mighty power, and all I need is a band to unleash the full potential of it. I plan on it being a mesh of geek rock and classic rock, which is a fine mix that no one could argue with. I plan on getting a drummer, keyboarder, maybe even a guy who can play a theremin. Now, my main challenge is coming up with a good name. Heres what I have so far, and don't be shy to pitch in your ideas:
Sputnik Rising
Airborne HIV
Inside the Atom
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@ Speli: Classic rock and geek rock, you say? Indeed, that is a mixture no one could compete with. If you could post Mp3's, that would be cool. It would be interesting to hear your style. :)
Oh, and... all the names sound good, but I like Airborne HIV the best. :D
Well, anyway... since I'm out of school for the summer, I went to Hyde's (it's a music store, in case the store is only in my area) and got a few music books to keep myself occupied, and I also got a new box o' reeds (the next size up). I'm trying to improve my jazz technique, so I got a couple jazz books and a classical one, too, just because it had songs from "Carmen". :love:
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I got the guys together and we had our Martha Stewart practice, videotaped. Over 20 minutes of made up on the spot music goodness. It's so horrible it's great. I went from drums to bass to guitar, one of my friends went from bass to drums, and the other went from guitar to bass. I can't believe we watched it all. It's so horrid.
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Ive played guitar for about 4 1/2 years now, and I can tell I get better every day. I am soo addicted to guitar, that i must play at least 3 hours a day. I just love it, if there was a huge fire in my house id put my guitar into a case and throw it out the window before I went out the window. Ive been looking for a serious band in my area for 3 years now but to no avail have I found one, or a group of people that want to make a band at least. Id kind of like to play some nickelback/pink floyd/lynard skynard/old punkish/red hot chilli peppers ish music so if you mix it all togeather thats my goal. I remember I used to play all metallica songs and All I realy specalized in was power chords for about a year and then I realized anyone can do thoes, its the multiple chord/hammering that is what takes skill so for the past few years ive made some nifty songs. Im looking to get a martin 12- string eventually because I hear they are just awesome tone wise. And id like to get a nice washburn accoustic or fender tele/electra/coustic for an upgrade to my very temporary yamaha accoustic. Amp wise, I was short money and sold a small peavey stack and bought a fender frontman 25 R because I didnt need the bigger stuff since I wasnt in a band. and im stll not in one but I might be soon. I think id be cool of some of us peelers got a e-mail thing going making up music on guitars and sending tabs/chord charts to eachother about how to play eachothers music... I dont know if anyone would like to do that but e-mail me at stolb3rg@yahoo.com If anyone wants to start, I have alot of music I can show people since im not in a band and im craving to expand my skills.
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At least with what you want to play you can be assured there are plenty of people who like it. You could put a million people in a room and at least half of them would like Pink Floyd, if not more. I've talked to Spiff about this too...try finding people in your area who want to play hardcore or grind. It's impossible. I have a friend who plays bass and likes hardcore and death metal, and now that I find a drummer who likes what I do, he lives in Germany. Wonderful.
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I think I found a drummer for a band. And maybe I can get my guitar player up off his ass this week. I could be playing by next weekend.
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Originally posted by Speli:
Sputnik Rising
Airborne HIV
Inside the Atom
Make it Airborne Aids. The alliteration makes it cooler.
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A great name for a band would be Hypnotoad. I wonder if it's copyrighted?
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Doubt it. No reason to.
My favorite name of a band ? Jethro Tull. About one outta ten people know who the historical Tull is.
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Jethro sounds like an Old Testament high priest, but Tull?
Enlighten me.
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Jethro Tull is/was an 18th century British agriculturist who is credited for the invention of the seed drill...who'da thunk?
And the band rocks. Ian Anderson is a god.
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Thick as a Brick= Genius
Ian Anderson is the god of codpieces ;)
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Yes, yes he is.
Thick as A Brick: BEYOND genuis.
Lurrr, I love you
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Heavy Horses is good too.
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There's actually a band called Tony Danza and the Tap Dancing Extravaganza. You can't really get any better than that.
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If by "better," you mean "worse," then yes, I see your point. I thought up a cool name for my band. "Euthanize Protestants."
Edit: and Lampy, my guitar player is a former hardcore player. The bay area is big on musicians that played hardcore ten years ago, even though this guy's from back East too. We were thinking of playing some old school style hardcore, like Big Black or something, and '70s hard rock and metal. Like a Motorhead meets Husker Du vibe.
If you want to find other hardcore players, you're going to have to get into an urban setting at some point.
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You're such a lucky bastard. All the best thrash and crust is from the bay area. And I'd gladly move into an urban setting, only you know, I'm still in high school. Tethered to that for right now.
As far as that jam thing I was talking about earlier, I was actually talking to different friends about jamming, seeing what works. The guitarist from last night doesn't seem to want to take part again.
And that is a better band name than anything thrown at me so far.
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Know what I hate? Running a band. Having been in the background for several eyars now I decided I wanted to form my own prog band and took it upon myself to do all the organising. It's a lot harder than it looks. Amazingly enough, I have managed to assemble the musicians I need (two guitars, bass, drums, vocals and a prospective keyboard player) and now it's just a matter of getting us to practice.
Unfortunately, that ain't easy. My time is relatively flexible, my sister and brother (vocals /guitar respectively) have just moved here so they have tons of time on their hands. But get this- the bassist can only practice Tuesday nights, and the drummer works all through the week and can only practice at weekends. I don't know how other bands do it, it seems impossible to get us in one place all at once!
One of the other bands I'm in has a similar problem- two of the members left a couple of weeks ago and all the organising and whatnot was left in my hands. We're doing well but we cannot get hold of a druumer for love nor money! It's driving me mad!
But my last band is fine now. We've finaly got the rehearsal room sorted and a gig booked for August. At least something's working right...
The funniest band name I've heard is my band, 'Evil Dick and the Banned Members' (I didn't make it up btw). We considered changing it to 'Evil Duck and the Billed Members' for a couple of gigs but thought that nobody would get the joke.
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Hang in there Lurrr and you'll get there in the end, all it takes is dedication....! Everyone has to be as dedicated as you though or you're in trouble....but I'm sure you know that....
Sounds like you know what you're doing, and you've got a lot of experience behind you....One day I hope to start my own band to play the music that I want....of course I'll probably have to move to Europe 'cos nobody here likes Death metal.... :nono:
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Originally posted by Shaucker:
Ian Anderson is a god.
Yet, even after all these years, and even with photographic evidence, he has still never admited to standing on one foot whilst fluting!
Semi-retired axe man, myself.
Played in various local bands since 1973.
Most proud of the work I did with Vaudeville and XOX (just before I moved to NYC) and Formaldehyde Blues Train (after I moved to Brooklyn)
We do FBT reunions every coupla years when we get itchy.
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Originally posted by futuramafreak:
...and am (hopefully) starting bass guitar at the end of the school year.
6 more days.
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well, my father sold that fancy spancy guitar (that he wouldn't even barely let me touch!) and I got a bass... so now I've taken it up. It seems to come more natural to me than guitar, i guess just the difference in how it is played is easier for me. I posted two pics in the "stuff we bought" thread.
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Go Hilly, rock that bass....! :D
I haven't tried to learn guitar properly yet but I reckon I'll find that harder than bass....I'm so used to playing with my fingers I'm not changing now heh
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You'll never guess what I did. I rented myself a brand new, Antigua brand Alto Saxophone, and am learning to play a few notes. I am so excited I think my water just broke. :laff:
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Creepy, but ok. I had my first bass lesson today, then when I came home, I looked up guitar tabs for the Futurama theme song, Smoke on the Water, and T.N.T. and have memorized the parts I like. :D
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Originally posted by futuramafreak:
Creepy, but ok. I had my first bass lesson today, then when I came home, I looked up guitar tabs for the Futurama theme song, Smoke on the Water, and T.N.T. and have memorized the parts I like. :D
Every time i hear someone mention or I play "Smoke on the Water" all i can think of is Homer Simpson high in his bedroom doing a tone-deaf version of that song on the Simpsons. :laff:
Originally posted by Lurrr:
Know what I hate? Running a band.
You and me both. I just got a new band together and its been absolutely hell. Normally I play rhythem guitar and do some vocals every once in a while. But now, I'm a frontman and lead vocalist/lead guitarist. Having to get all my lazy-ass bandmates to come and practice is a fuckin nightmare. Just getting them to play the songs on their own is trouble enough.
Ugh, makes me want to become a silent backing guy again...
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Well, my prog band fell through in the end. I really just couldn't be bothered trying to sort it out when people weren't flexible enough to have ANY free time to practice (honestly, why sign up for a band if you only have two evenings a week free?!?). So I'm concentrating on my other band now. They are all much more flexible and enthusiastic so it should be easier. I just dread booking gigs...
Oh, and for the next practice I'm having to play drums since we still cannot find a drummer. If we can't find a drummer soon then I may have to stay there which doesn't bother me much except that I haven't played drums in two years. I haven't EVER played them well :hmpf:
Also, I had a gig on August 3rd but we've been kindly told to 'get lost' because the other two bands have so much kit to move. And I was so looking forward to it, since I haven't played live in months :(
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That sucks Lurrr.... :(
Good luck with the other band....
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Cheers Gleno man!
Fortunately we've been offered another two gigs on the 12th and 14th of August, which makes me feel somewhat better :D
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I quit my first band because I was sick of doing all the organising. So I know how you feel. Red:Shift is a three-way share between Myself, Moo (the lead singer) and Dave (Guitarist). That suits me fine. AWAC, I'm still settling into, and The Bloody Marys is mostly organised by Ryan (but it's his name in the band name, so that's fair enough in my opinion).
Last week, I played at a venue in Wakefield, and they video all of the bands sets who play there. Before we went on they showed a set by a band who'd played there a few weeks before, they were called Conquest Of Steel (yes, you know what they sound like, before you hear them).
They came out with a great stage quote:
"This is a song about a sword, and you can't get any more metal than that!".
Awesome.
I was in the studio last week also, recording four drum tracks for a new Bloody Marys EP. We were at Studio Seven, which is run by former Shed Seven drummer, Alan Leach. There were plenty of gold disks on the wall (including the silver disk for sales in Thailand displayed proudly in his toilet), and I loved his photos of him with Steven Tyler and Norm from Cheers.
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I play the piano, and am in my fifth year, about to start my sixth.
Here is the hardest piece I know from memory, that I learned about 6 months ago:
http://lib1.store.vip.sc5.yahoo.com/lib/doremifasoft/Mozart-Rondo-alla-turca.mid (http://lib1.store.vip.sc5.yahoo.com/lib/doremifasoft/Mozart-Rondo-alla-turca.mid)
Not too bad, considering my age. :p
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
"This is a song about a sword, and you can't get any more metal than that!".
:laff: That's brilliant, I'm making that my new sig.... :p
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With the microphone I got for my computer, I now have 28 songs recorded, all of which made up on the spot(with one exception). They're all under a minute since I was using Sound Recorder, and it's weird like that. Most of them are played with guitar, but there are a few bass songs. They range from weird phase shifter trancey stuff to chunky bass to flat out flailing and screaming like an idiot. There are a few direct references to PEEL(For some reason I made a song about Nasty Pasty, not a bashing one mind you), some hidden, some more obvious. I'd love to try and get some of these songs hosted.
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ftp://thelampincident:peelified1@ftp.passagen.se
Open that in explorer or an ftp-program. Then you can click and drag your files into the explorer window.
Then the address becomes: http://hem.passagen.se/thelampincident/songname.mp3 (http://hem.passagen.se/thelampincident/songname.mp3)
Or if it's .wma the adress becomes .wma.
If you don't gain direct access and some window pops up asking for username and password, here's the info:
Username: thelampincident
Password: peelified1
You didn't have an e-mail address avalible so I had to post the info here. If some PEELer decides to access that account and remove the files that's not my problem.
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Thank you Xmpel, my faith in you has been restored!
I was typing this before, and I was going to post all the songs, but I hit the wrong button, and lost everything. I'm not posting them all again, so here's a sampling.
EDIT: It says none of the links are working. I'll try again later.
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So the band I was in has been split up, sort of....we weren't making much progress because a couple of people weren't pulling their weight so our manager has taken people from our band, and another and made 2 new ones....
I'm still with the drummer from before, which is cool cos we connect like drum and bass have to heh....and I'm now with some others who I know but haven't played with....
Our first meeting is tonight, I'm looking forward to it I think it'll be really good....!
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In other news, my band is doing awesome. The gig on August 28th is fast approaching and i cant fuckin wait.
Here is the most recent setlist i have:
Futurama Theme
99 Red Balloons - Goldfinger/Nena
London Calling - The Clash
Sloop John B - The Beach Boys
My Immortal (dont ask) - Evanesance
She Will Be Loved - Maroon 5
Revolution - The Beatles
Heroes and Villains - The Beach Boys
Behind Blue Eyes - The Who
Futurama Theme/Future Guy - Your's Truely
I'm thinkin of adding more songs (most likely a Ramones Song or somethin).
EDIT: Oh By the Way, here is a ROUGH demo of my song "Future Guy" which was written for the under construction Futurama fangame. It's a bit low and the vocals arent awesome and are louder than the guitar, but it's a pretty good sounding demo.
Please post your comments about the song.
Lets hope this works:
Click here (http://futuramagame.insanitysquared.dk/uploads/FutureGuyDemo.mp3)
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It's great. A little scary at a few parts, like the 'World of Tomorrow!', but that's because you put personality in it.
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Originally posted by futuramafreak:
It's great. A little scary at a few parts, like the 'World of Tomorrow!', but that's because you put personality in it.
i feel i had to put that little Terry quirk in there somewhere, so i figured at the end would be good.
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Nasty your song is absolutly orgasmic... It made me dance, even though I cant...
And Lamp, you should right a song about me... It can be called: "I'm not gay, I just think that Whoop is on everyones mind, I wish I can have him" There it doesnt have to gbe good song, the title is long, you might get a world record...
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I've played sets that were 75% covers before, but I think it's important to mix in original stuff. Future Guy sounds like a lot of fun to play. I wrote a song about Futurama, too, but I haven't played it yet.
The lyric to the chorus is:
I'll tell you what I do when the days get lean;
I just travel to the future in my time machine
and hang out with robots in my favourite bars,
drinking gin & tonics and smoking cigars
Shit, you should post that link on the adult swim message boards. Maybe they'll play it on those gay-ass bumps I love so much.
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
Shit, you should post that link on the adult swim message boards. Maybe they'll play it on those gay-ass bumps I love so much.
haha good idea canned eggs. that'd certainly be interesting. oh and yes, it is a very fun song to play and suprisingly very easy.
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Gee Nasty, why not just tell the whole world you don't know how to write your own songs with that setlist, eh? Why don't you write some fucking songs before playing a gig.
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
Gee Nasty, why not just tell the whole world you don't know how to write your own songs with that setlist, eh? Why don't you write some fucking songs before playing a gig.
i would like to play more originals but i was requested by the place to play some classic rock covers and try to cut back on my band's own songs.
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Ooh, burn!
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Burn what? Fuck what that place requested, play what you want anyway. Or just don't play at a place like that. If a venue is telling you what to play, shoot the owner.
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If they want more classic rock covers, just play Center Field thirty times. They'll beg for originals.
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
If they want more classic rock covers, just play Center Field thirty times. They'll beg for originals.
sounds like a plan....
but whatever, i like playing Classic Rock, so i dont mind.
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
Burn what? Fuck what that place requested, play what you want anyway. Or just don't play at a place like that. If a venue is telling you what to play, shoot the owner.
I don't know what it's like over there but over here there is hardly, if any market for original music....people go out they want to sing along/dance to songs they know....
I have always hated that fact, my argument was "ok let's play covers, and slip in one or two of our own songs, then if the same people come back next week they'll remember it and if they liked it they'll sing along and it'll go from there...."
But it doesn't work like that over here, that's whay I'd love to travel over East where original music is recognised more, so I've heard....
But for now I'm in a band for experience and to have a good time playing....I'm not saying I like playing covers, but I don't hate it (what better way to learn to play) but one day I want to start my own band and write my own stuff, but for now this is all I need....
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as you said Gleno, I too find it hard to play alot of covers are gigs simply because thats not what the audience wants to hear. But I do slip in (as u said) a few covers in my sets and i try to gauge the audience's reaction. If they like it, I'll play it again next time. Like, for this gig on the 28th, it's gonna be the first time i play my new song for the Futurama Fangame (Future Guy) live in front of an audience. If they like it, maybe I'll do it again.
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I'm taking bets 10:1 chance no one'll catch the reference.
[edit] Are you going to do the Terry voice? :nono:
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Originally posted by futuramafreak:
[edit] Are you going to do the Terry voice? :nono:
Damn fucking straight I'm gonna do the Terry voice!!
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Why would anyone do a set with their band that was mostly covers voluntarily? Maybe I'm not used to this because I'm in a scene where people just play originals right off the spot, and maybe a cover every once in a while, but it sounds retarded. If they're cheering, it's not for you, but for the band you just covered.
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
Why would anyone do a set with their band that was mostly covers voluntarily?
It might be hard for you to comprehend this,
Maybe, possibly, sometimes, some people and bands actually LIKE doing covers of their favorite bands!!!!
Now that wasnt too hard was it?
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Yeah, but thats like making a movie remake. They almost always suck, and there isn't really a point if one already exists already.
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Wow... Lamp, id love to hear one of your songs.... you can do Denis Learys song "asshole"...
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
Why would anyone do a set with their band that was mostly covers voluntarily? Maybe I'm not used to this because I'm in a scene where people just play originals right off the spot, and maybe a cover every once in a while, but it sounds retarded. If they're cheering, it's not for you, but for the band you just covered.
Possibly. I played covers in the first band I was in, this was just to get used to playing with the other four members (as they were strangers, I didn't know them). We wrote songs thereafter and played them live, the covers were just played in rehearsal.
Unless you're in a band which plays parties, for money, then yeah, covers are fine. It's fun, I'm not that much of a musical snob whereby I value my own songwriting that highly anyway.
I don't really care what they're cheering for, as long as they're cheering. That's the most important thing.
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Well, whatever. I don't want to argue this point any further because I simply don't care enough.
I walked into Guitar Center yesterday with one of my friends...felt a little rusty but man I think that may be what got me reinterested in guitar...I'd been losing a little interest lately, but this was the spark to bring it back. I wrote some weird thing on acoustic guitar, and then I played this Ibanez Artcore. Basically some Gretsch ripoff, with the big tremolo bar, but it sounded damn good, especially at a price of $380. Probably just as good as any Gretsch White Falcon or something like that. I was playing this surf guitar stuff taking full advantage of the whammy.
Now I want an Ibanez Artcore. Hot damn.
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I see nothing wrong with covers bands. One of the best bands I ever played with was a covers band, and it was fun because we didn't take ourselves seriously. We just wanted to get out, play some live music and maybe make some money out of it too. We didn't care what we played, we just love playing live music!
I will say that even in original bands I like to play a couple of covers, but I insist that we mess about with them and come up with a different version. It gives the audience something to latch onto amongst all the original material they don't recognise, but playing them differently keeps it fresh and new.
And tonight, I have a gig. Hopefully there will be quite a few people in the audience (unlike last time...)
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I agree Lurrr, in the band I was in that just broke up, we changed around the covers a bit here and there, just enough to make them different, but so people could still recognise them....
Good luck with the gig....!
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Originally posted by Lurrr:
I will say that even in original bands I like to play a couple of covers, but I insist that we mess about with them and come up with a different version. It gives the audience something to latch onto amongst all the original material they don't recognise, but playing them differently keeps it fresh and new.
And tonight, I have a gig. Hopefully there will be quite a few people in the audience (unlike last time...)
I agree, a good cover song, possibly done differently or interestingly, is an "in" for any potential audience. It's hard enough to get people out to see you, really, you gotta have an angle.
I had a gig tonight, supporting a band called The Kaiser Chiefs, they were good, we played as The Bloody Marys, but the gig was suppose to be as Red:Shift, however, our guitarist is marooned in the middle of Sweden because one of his holiday party lost the keys to the hire-car, at the bottom of a lake. The great daft puddin'.
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Gah, what a crap performance! The gig went well tonight (cheers Gleno!), but I don't feel it was anything special. I made lots of mistakes (the ones you never usually make, and get you get pissed off at for making them) and, desite being really lively to beging with, I lost my enthusiasm towards the end. A few technical problems didn't help either.
We played to a dozen people, which isn't the smallest audience we've played to. The band that supported ( :eek: ) us were from Sheffield so didn't pull in anyone, and the other band didn't turn up. I was quite annoyed as this has happened a couple of times now, and if the other bands had brought as many people as us the place would be pretty full.
Everyone enjoyed it though, so it wasn't a total failure. We haven't played a gig for months, and our practices have been very restrictive lately so it was nice to get out and play properly.
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I like covers. I think a good way to judge a band is by the covers they play. It's a way of finding out if they have the right attitude toward their influences. You can't just listen to the same version of one song all the time.
And playing covers is sometimes more fun than playing songs I write, because other bands write better than I do. I used to play in a band that did like five Black Sabbath covers. Now those songs are fun to play. I don't give a shit what the audience thinks about it. I always hated the audience. Let them suffer.
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
With the microphone I got for my computer, I now have 28 songs recorded, all of which made up on the spot(with one exception). They're all under a minute since I was using Sound Recorder, and it's weird like that...
I think Audacity can record songs longer than 1 minute! (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/)
Although I've never tried it, and you probably have to set up the mic options...
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Audacity will record until it runs out of hard drive or hits the 2gb limit.
Actually, I don't know if Audacity will try to make a file larger than 2gb, but if it does I know that FAT32 dies at 2gb. No idea when NTFS dies, but regardless 2gb is something like four hours anyway.
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Searched the MS-knowledgebase, here are the official MS regulations:
FAT16 can do files with max 2 GB
FAT32 with 4 GB
and NTFS can 16 TB
a pdf with the KB entry (for those who don't want to visit MS-Servers) (http://www.k-hausmann.de/webspace/ntfs.pdf)
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I guess when FAT32 came out nobody bothered to tell the Linux kernel then. It thinks the limit is 2.
Of course, who would be using something as clumsy and slow as FAT for big files anyway? :p
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FAT is PHAT!
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Originally posted by Lurrr:
Gah, what a crap performance! The gig went well tonight (cheers Gleno!), but I don't feel it was anything special. I made lots of mistakes (the ones you never usually make, and get you get pissed off at for making them) and, desite being really lively to beging with, I lost my enthusiasm towards the end. A few technical problems didn't help either.
We played to a dozen people, which isn't the smallest audience we've played to. The band that supported ( :eek: ) us were from Sheffield so didn't pull in anyone, and the other band didn't turn up. I was quite annoyed as this has happened a couple of times now, and if the other bands had brought as many people as us the place would be pretty full.
Everyone enjoyed it though, so it wasn't a total failure. We haven't played a gig for months, and our practices have been very restrictive lately so it was nice to get out and play properly.
Bah that's ok, least you got to play live again....I haven't had a gig since February.... :(
Every little bit helps....!
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Originally posted by Lurrr:
We played to a dozen people, which isn't the smallest audience we've played to. The band that supported ( :eek: ) us were from Sheffield so didn't pull in anyone, and the other band didn't turn up. I was quite annoyed as this has happened a couple of times now, and if the other bands had brought as many people as us the place would be pretty full.
Which band is this that you're in now?
This is the thing with bands playing out-of-town gigs, local band participation is key to garnering an audience, unless you know people who live in the town, or you're playing in London (in that case, put on a bus, or flyer the heck out of everywhere). Therefore, I know I've booked out-of-town bands, it's a given that they're not gonna bring anyone.
We played a Tour gig in Mansfield and booked with a local band supporting, which pulled, and us and our tour-mates, Fallen Origin were left playing to each-other and about 10 people.
So, this begs a question. Promotion? What are you doing to bag new punters? What's the best way to achieve getting across to a new set of people, without endlessly playing to other people's crowd (who frankly, don't give a good fuck about any supports anyway).
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Which band is this that you're in now?
That was Evil Dick. I am in another band which is slowly getting off the ground (auditioning a drummer on Wednesday), but as yet we have no gigs planned. As soon as the drummer is in, I'll be scouting for gigs.
I know out-of-town bands won't be bringing anyone, it was more the other band that dropped out that pissed me off. It sucks to have to play to your friends all the time :(
The trouble is, promoting the band is hard. Avaunt-guarde punk-prog isn't the most crowd-pleasing music there is, so we have to find those few people who are into our sort of music. Which is very hard- we've managed it in London (there is a reviewer in The Wire who plugs our gigs there a lot, and brings all his mates) and a couple of times in Leicester, but the live scene in Leicester still sucks. We have a relatively safe and accessible city centre which therefore means that the population won't go further than ten yards out their own front doors. And the venues can't really afford to promote us so all that is down to us. And I have too much pride/cowardice to stand in the streets handing out flyers.
But things may be looking up- all the students will be coming back in September, and they are always looking for a good night out. Stick up a few posters, get some gigs near the university and we should get a few people in. The trouble is getting them to come back again. This is where a good and enjoyable performance comes in handy.
We've been asked to do the Leicester Comedy Festival, which is a BIG event. We're hoping to draft in a few commedians and make our set more 'theatrical' (whatever that means). We've started adding more comedy elements to the set, with some banter between me and Richard as well, which could make us more memorable. If the audience is getting involved and laughing then they are definitely enjoying themselves.
But I'm happy as long as I play some rocking gigs!
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Quite right! The comedy angle is interesting one, as we've tried to persuade Ryan to go more for the comedy angle, as he just hilarious. Our last gig we broke up the set with banter, which - to us - was quite funny. I kinda hate it when all some bands onstage charisma extends to is "er, cheers".
As always, freshers week is the time to get in some promotion. However, sometimes you cannot bank on students being into your band, especially if you're serious musicians. They think you're not ironic enough to be liked.
Thing is, it boils down to being seen and known. Therefore I have no problem with spending a day flyering in the middle of York. It's a necessary evil. We've got free press (by having our guitarist being a jounralist) and some student Radio coverage (but no-one listens to that, do they?) and played some stellar supports. However, sometimes it isn't enough to break the apathy.
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Had a practice with my new band today. I was put on drums again but hopefully next week my brother (a fantastic drummer) will be taking on drum duties. He's put aside his differences with my Dad, which is good since I'm a crap drummer and there's no-one else to replace me. Our singer gaining in confidence too- we can hear what she's singing now, and she sounds very good when she's belting out those lyrics.
Anyhow, I have a treat for y'all! Last November, Evil Dick went into the studio to record a few tracks and I have (finaly) got my hands on the final versions. Here is a full MP3 for you to listen to:
Post-Caringism (http://www.radiantsplit.com/PostCaringism.mp3)
A combination of my awkward bass sound and bad mixing means my bass isn't easy to hear. Comments are of course welcome (yes, it is meant to be funny).
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I had a jam today with one of my friends. We plan to try and start one of those two people bands that play really loud, but it was just...loud. When I was playing drums, I got some huge blisters.
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I like to sing, but I really suck at it. It just tortures everyone around me. Actually I think its just that Masochism in me...
But really I write songs and spoofs.. though gorey...
And I did write the Theme song for Timmy the Sperm!
Timmy the Sperm
Has lots of friends.
He lives in the
Vas Deferens.
There's Gall-a-had and Jarrod,
Nurse Cell,
the rest of the crew,
Now its go time!
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Originally posted by FemJesse:
Timmy the Sperm
Has lots of friends.
He lives in the
Vas Deferens.
LOL! That rhyme would make Gilbert and Sullivan jealous!
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
I had a jam today with one of my friends. We plan to try and start one of those two people bands that play really loud, but it was just...loud. When I was playing drums, I got some huge blisters.
Have you ever heard of a band called Winnabago Deal? Just a drummer and guitarist, but awesome sound, very very very loud.
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Well, I recently got my new music for band... "Overture to Candide". It's kind of fun, actually, even if it's difficult. It's marching season, though, and homecoming is this Saturday, so we're marching most of class. "Fun" stuff. :laff:
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Overture to Candide? Lemme be the first to say a big stinkin' ARRRRRRGGGG.
We did that as part of our field show last year, and I've never gotten over hating it.
Originally posted by FemJesse:
But really I write songs and spoofs.. though gorey...
Yes, FJ, they are gory. I've seen that "I'd like the nuke the world" thing over at Newgrounds. I pissed myself laughing.
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Evil Dick played two great gigs last week, and I was very impressed with the turnout for once. Not only that, but on the Friday we sounded great! We managed to get a some recordings off the mixing desk, so here's a couple off our site:
Coloured Dots IV (http://www.polemicmusic.com/DotsIV.mp3)
Clawfoot Henrad (http://www.polemicmusic.com/ClawfootHenrad.mp3)
Who's Your Daddy? (http://www.polemicmusic.com/Whosydaddy2.mp3)
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I finally added a new member of my band. I got myself a keyboardist in the form of my friend Andrew. He's pretty damn good, plus he's a tenor!(aka as someone who can sing better than me)
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Nerve Harvest, one of my bands (after a year and a bit of inactivity) is coming back. We've got a freshly recorded EP, "The Device" and two new members (out goes Charlotte, in comes Kate, and Olli - a turntablist).
We've spent the last month or so thrashing out agreements between a Label and members of the band to get this going again.
I'm certainly looking forward to working with a turntablist. Should be a blast.
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Me and my drummer got the drums set up in the garage, got "fuck you you suck" written on the bass drum head, and played through a couple of songs, but the guitar players never showed up. So the band is very nearly there, but not quite. I feel like I'm 15 again. Maybe this weekend we'll have a real rehearsal. Now we just need a singer. And a tamborine player.
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Well, nobody showed up for rehearsal, so I played with a different drummer. We played Moby Dick and jammed in 5/4. Then everybody told us to quit because we sounded like crap, so we switched instruments and sounded infinitely worse. This band is never gonna happen if nobody comes to rehearsal.
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Alright! I had a guitar player show up to rehearsal for the first time! He's good, too. We just played a bunch of covers, but if I can ever get the other guitar player to come, it'll only be a few rehearsals before we define our sound and can start writing some stuff. I think we'll sound good. Now all we need is a singer.
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Am I the only musician left here? I'm the last four posts in this thread, for God's sake. The band is coming along fine, thanks for asking, but I have one problem. One of the guys in my band used to be in AFI. I don't know how to feel about that. Should I... should I kill him?
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Yes. You should kill him. AFI is horrible. Was it Geoff or their old guitarist or what?
The bassist of my band signed us up for a statewide Battle of the Bands on the 19th. I have no idea if we'll be ready in time.
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Who the fuck is Geoff? I don't know their names; he used to play bass, probably years and years ago. Have you seen AFI's website? It's ridiculous. It's the most pretentious thing I've ever seen, and I've seen Wagner at the Met.
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I'm trying to get a band together, but I can't find anyone good at their instruments... Good luck to you Eggs with your band!
The first time I heard AFI, I thought it was a girl band, no fucking lie. Then when I saw the lead singer, I thought he was a chick.
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I've been busy recently with the bandstuff, so I thought I'd post an updated resumé, band-wise. These are current tracks (one posted before, and two brand new ones)
These are my current three bands, each different in their own way - all good, in my opinion.
Red:Shift - Destinations (http://www.samuelhdiamond.co.uk/friedgold/mp3s/destinations.mp3)
Red:Shift are my current full-time band, and we've played all over. This is my favourite track to date, and recorded for our last EP, "The Big Nowhere". Recorded in one-take, no less.
Ryan Shirlow & The Bloody Marys - In The Next Life, I Think I'll Talk To Girls (http://www.samuelhdiamond.co.uk/friedgold/mp3s/nextlife.mp3)
This is kinda an exclusive, as I got the CD of this yesterday. Taken from the new Bloody Marys CD, "Sinners", and recorded at Alan Leach's (of Shed Seven fame) Studio Seven (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/alandotleach/index.htm). I like this, a lot. It's a current live favourite. Fairly appropriate listening for internet nerds, I think.
Nerve Harvest - Winter (http://www.samuelhdiamond.co.uk/friedgold/mp3s/winter.mp3)
NH are industrial-metal. I play live-drums along to sequenced backing-tracks, which is kinda difficult. We're supposed to be kinda Godflesh/Ministry, although I think this track sounds like Killing Joke. Yet again, this is an exclusive, as the CD we're making with this on, hasn't been finished yet.
Enjoy.
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I'm not in any band, but I do play electric guitar, and thats it. (I do have a band, but we don't play anything, we're just waiting until all of us get better.)
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Strangely enough, my band is on a poster.
(http://www.rattlehead.com/adv/images/eadv20041112_ise_al12.jpg)
Uberfuzz.
We need a new name.
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heh, Ghost Of Otis.
That guy gets around.
Comments welcome on the ^^ MP3's BTW.
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Let's all have a moment of silence for our good pal, Otis... I hope he doesn't haunt me.
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Ok, now cake! :D
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I came up with a great gimmick at rehearsal today. Get this. I play the bass... with a guitar. It's like in Spinal Tap when he played the guitar with a violin.
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Melll, I like all of those songs. Especially Winter, it has a nice sound to it.
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Thanks man, yeah, Winter I like a lot too. It's been gathering dust for over a year (I have a rough mix of it somewhere), and this is the newly remixed version, which added the intro. It was mixed by the guy who sings on the Bloody Marys track, Ryan.
I think he did a good job. I really like the guitar sound especially.
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I've told you this already, but - great, great job on "In The Next Life...". There's just something about it that works :)
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:D
The piano on "...Next Life..." was played by former Bloody Mary, Stephen Green - an excellent job he did too, he came back to record piano and organ parts for this CD. Amazing pianist.
The strings is one violin, triple-tracked and then another track added and put through an octave-filter, and dropped down to make it sound like a cello (this is the digital age, after all). The violin is played by - friend of the band - Alice Wishart.
The EP this is taken from, "Sinners" is one of the best records I've been involved with. I like it that much.
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I love the Next Life song !
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Today I had what I feel was our best band practice ever. And what timing for it. We played our first two songs, finished up our next two songs, and then wrote a 20 second quickie. We have school off tomorrow for Veteran's Day and we're having a practice then to mainly add words here and there. It's only a 15 minutes set, and we filled that void pretty much perfectly. I feel really good about this.
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Hmmm, haven't seen this thread in awhile...
Anyway, I am going to be auditioning to get into a very selective band soon. Truth be told, the odds are against me because I am the minimum age needed to participate meaning, of course, that I'll be competing against people with more experience than me. Also, the piece is a real difficult one...
But, I'm doing this more for the experience I guess. After all, I have two more years after this to try out for that band if I want to.
On another note, I've been lurking around the music department a lot lately, mainly because I've been playing sax for both jazz bands as well as my regular clarinet playing. And I made the mistake of telling my teacher that I might pursue music education as a major when I reach college- he'll be hounding me without mercy now. :laff:
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
I came up with a great gimmick at rehearsal today. Get this. I play the bass... with a guitar. It's like in Spinal Tap when he played the guitar with a violin.
But do you tune the guitar before you play the bass? :)
Sheep555 has left the building. Again.
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Well I got a possible new bass player in my band. He's a good friend of mine who I had no idea played. He's gonna drop in on our practice on Sunday and see if he thinks we're "worthy" of his time.
This comming Friday is a Evening Coffee House at my school where all the student's bands perform for the audience. My band is scheduled to perform (and it's also nice when my guitarist and my keyboardist are in charge of Entertainment at the event).
Here is our short little setlist for Friday:
-I Wanna Be Sedated by the Ramones
-Under The Bridge by Red Hot Chile Peppers
-I am the Walrus by the Beatles
-Heroes & Villains/You are my Sunshine Medley by The Beach Boys
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and how about writing your own music?
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Covers? Originals? It's all good. It's a gig. Gigs are a blast, no matter what.
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Originally posted by Margarita:
and how about writing your own music?
Meh, I have about a dozen songs that I wrote. But at these events, everybody does originals and the vast majority of them suck ass. So I throw a monkey wrench into that pattern and play a set full of covers.
I always feel that the audience reacts more to hearing covers than originals anyway.
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One of these days, I'll get one of my bands to play some covers. I've got as far as jamming Transmission by Joy Division. Rocked, but I still couldn't get them to play it.
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Good song choices there Nasty, I especially like "Under The Bridge" by the Peppers.
Also, Melllvar I liked your stuff from your bands... good music.
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Melll, listen out for the Smashing Pumpkins version of Transmission, particularly the version they did on their Adore tour. It's amazing.
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Speaking of the Pumpkins, I didn't play you the opening figure of I Am One, which I play for Fallen Origin, just coz they're big Pumpkins fans.
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They are? Jesus, I wish i'd known. And next time man, you definitely need to play me that. I'd wet myself in several places.
EDIT: Wait a minute, those MP3s are hosted on my server! Nice one, I never noticed. And, you don't need a comment from me, you know my opinion of your work already.
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I had my show on Friday. What a blast. We had a 15 minute set of all originals. Sure we screwed up a few times, but it was the first time I'd ever played in front of a crowd. It was a big crowd too. I wasn't paying much attention to them because I was focusing on my guitar playing, but on the song I sang, I looked up to the microphone and since it was a fast song, at least 8 people must have charged into each other at the same time for a mosh pit. It was nice. But we were nothing compared to a band some other friends of ours were in, United Against. There was a mosh pit the whole set and I was right in it. We actually chanted for an encore. It was nuts. What a great night.
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*Little Bump*
Well my band had it's gig last night and all i can say is that it was a fucking awesome show. The place was packed, standing room only, and there must have been 300 people crammed in. My band was one of about 15 on the bill but I also had a few other performances there too.
First I went up and I did a flawless solo version of "A Day in the Life" just on Accoustic Guitar. Then, later in the show, my keyboardist went up and (as a joke) played the ENTIRE Super Mario Bros Theme song and ended up getting the biggest ovation of the night. Then right afterwards, me and the rest of the band came up and played "Heroes & Villains" and "Come Together" which brought the place to it's knees.
Fast forward 2 hours and it was the last 10 minutes of the show and me and my guitarist went up and did an absolutely hilarious ad-lib version of "Tribute to the Greatest song in the world" by Tenacious D. We left the audience on the verge of pissing themselves in their seats.
So all in all, I guess it was an ok show. :p
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Tenacious D! Yay! :D
Anyway... Today I'm going to that big audition I mentioned earlier. Wish me luck!
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It was cool caus I had one of my friends videotape out songs and take pictures. I'll post some when I get them back.
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Sounds like a good show, Nasty. You have to post the footage from the show.
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A Day In The Life is the greatest Beatles song ever, mind. Can't wait to hear your stuff, Nasty.
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I have a shitload of video editing equipment so as soon as I get the chance, I'll take the audio from the camera and post it online for you guys to hear.
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*tiny lil Bump*
Here are some pictures from the show I promised:
Me and my bandmates playing a bastardized version of "Tribute":
(http://img82.exs.cx/img82/6934/DSC_00821.th.jpg) (http://img82.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img82&image=DSC_00821.jpg)
A picture of another band @ the show, Exit 157:
(http://img84.exs.cx/img84/7852/DSC_00791.th.jpg) (http://img84.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img84&image=DSC_00791.jpg)
A pretty crappy pic of my band performing:
(http://img44.exs.cx/img44/5125/DSC_00661.th.jpg) (http://img44.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img44&image=DSC_00661.jpg)
A friend of mine doing a spoken-word version of a Rage Against the Machine song (ala William Shatner):
(http://img97.exs.cx/img97/1439/DSC_00571.th.jpg) (http://img97.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img97&image=DSC_00571.jpg)
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Might I say that that friend of yours who did the spoken word version of a Rage Against the Machine song has a good taste in music. At least judging by t-shirt...
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Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff:
Might I say that that friend of yours who did the spoken word version of a Rage Against the Machine song has a good taste in music. At least judging by t-shirt...
Yeah, he's a weird one. He's into Rage Against the Machine and God Speed You Black Emperor. That kinda stuff.
He's also set to become my band's new bass-player.
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Well, it seems as though I might be doing a solo for jazz band. Unfortuneately, I have no idea what to do, because I'm very new on saxophone (I've only been playing sax since June)and I've never done a solo before. Also, I'm very very nervous when I have to perform for a large audience on my own. Any tips? Please? :hmpf:
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It's ok 3/4. We've all had our share of stagefright before a big show. But once you get up there and play the first note, it all falls into place. Next thing you'll hear will be the clapping. It's great, don't worry. :)
Edit: TOTPD(http://img35.exs.cx/img35/3474/ae-vcvc.gif)
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But don't forget to shoot up before the show. To relax.
And, uh, arpeggiate to define the chord.
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Originally posted by 3/4 of a Jesus:
Well, it seems as though I might be doing a solo for jazz band. Unfortuneately, I have no idea what to do, because I'm very new on saxophone (I've only been playing sax since June)and I've never done a solo before. Also, I'm very very nervous when I have to perform for a large audience on my own. Any tips? Please? :hmpf:
Scales. Do your scales. Practice them in modes too. This way, you know the chord sequence, and you can know what fits. Start simple too in practice, like with a basic arpeggio.
Flat sevenths is the usual blues thing too.
If you have any further questions, I'd be glad to help, or you can email me at irisx29@hotmail.com
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Thanks everyone for your help! :D
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It all just comes with practice. I'm surprised they're making you do a solo when you're that new to the Sax. It took me some time to be quite comfortable standing up and solo-ing, but at some point you just become comfortable.
Did you play any other instruments before the Sax?
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Ninaka, are you still knob twiddling? Or have you given it up to travel the world?
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to Ninaka: I've been playing clarinet for 6 years now, so I'm not completely new to music in general. :)
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Didn't know what thread this belonged in...
Dimebag Darrell former guitar player from Pantera, now apart of Damage Plan, was shot and killed during a concert. The shooter stormed the stage, got up shot 2 members of the band (Damage Plan) killing one, no news on the other member's situation. The shooter was shot by security, but just a little to late.
I'm not a Pantera fan, but this is sad for the music world.
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I'm stunned. I was a big Pantera fan.
Link (http://www.antimusic.com/news/04/dec/item07.shtml)
Sad day, not just for metal fans, but for music fans. :(
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Aunque no tengo un instrumento mismo, soy lleno de respecto y de admiración para los que tengan música dentro de ellos.
La gente que se realiza para otras no debe ser expuesta a este tipo de persona peligrosa, y a él es una gran tristeza que este incidente podía suceder.
El mundo de la música será menos grande si se va éste a ser repetido.
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I'm not sure, but is the first time something like this has ever happened?
Thanks for link Mell, I couldn't find one, I heard the story on the radio.
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I've never heard of it happening before. One wonders what the motive for the shooting was?
I mean, shit, it's just music, no-one deserves to die for playing it.
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Exactly, I mean I have alot of respect for all recording artists and just small town bands. Because, it takes alot of guts to play in front of a crowd and put on a show.
The guy who did this, was probably mentally unstable...
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Well, Vinnie Paul (Pantera and Damageplan drummer) was Dimes brother, so one can only imagine what that guys going through right now.
Mentally unstable? Quite.
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I just thought of this, where was the security though? I mean we just had the "Piston's/Pacer's fan brawl" a few weeks ago, you would think we would have tighter security at these events.
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I've heard conflicting reports, but it looks like Vinnie Paul himself died at the scene, too. I'm not sure of this, but I've heard different reports. Some say he was shot, some don't mention him at all.
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I'm sure we'll find out later, but needless to say, I'm gobsmacked by the whole thing.
If the venue is like a club venue, the security won't be tight (Damageplan weren't the Arena-Monster in the US that Pantera were). Basically anyone coulda done that if the security was lax enough.
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
If the venue is like a club venue, the security won't be tight (Damageplan weren't the Arena-Monster in the US that Pantera were). Basically anyone coulda done that if the security was lax enough.
Good point, I have been to club venues, at one I was so close to the band, I could have reached out touched them if I'd wanted too.
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I can't really play instruments (unless you consider that mashing piano keys is playing an instrument) but I do know how to write music. I've been making computer music for about 4 years now, back when I was 15.
So far, the only thing that I'm capable of doing are midi files mostly due to the fact that I don't own any gear save from a PSR-260 MIDI keyboard that I use for sequencing. Ever since I started making tunes, I think I've made over 200 tunes (even though in that lot, there's probably only 20 tunes in these that I really find great :P). Most of my music has been done for personal entertainment reasons, although I sometimes happen to make some game music once in a while.
Here's some of the tunes I made, available in MIDI format:
http://www.az-man.com/junkman/midis/highway.mid (http://www.az-man.com/junkman/midis/highway.mid) http://www.az-man.com/junkman/midis/dayofdefeat.mid (http://www.az-man.com/junkman/midis/dayofdefeat.mid) http://www.az-man.com/junkman/midis/departure2.mid (http://www.az-man.com/junkman/midis/departure2.mid) http://www.az-man.com/junkman/midis/claiming.mid (http://www.az-man.com/junkman/midis/claiming.mid) http://www.az-man.com/junkman/midis/cryptic.mid (http://www.az-man.com/junkman/midis/cryptic.mid) http://www.az-man.com/junkman/midis/totemanthem.mid (http://www.az-man.com/junkman/midis/totemanthem.mid)
If you happen to like these, there's about a hundred more tunes available on my site. Just take any of those links and shrink it to the needed length in order to access it.
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We had our first rehearsal with a singer today. The drummer didn't show up, so she filled in a bit on drums. She's a better drummer than our drummer.
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
We had our first rehearsal with a singer today. The drummer didn't show up, so she filled in a bit on drums. She's a better drummer than our drummer.
Does that mean you'll make the Drummer the singer? :confused:
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You've never heard of that before? In my last band, our drummer did vocals on one song.
And then of course, there's Phil Collins. But he sucks.
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I dunno what we'll do. We could have them swap roles depending on the song.
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
Does that mean you'll make the Drummer the singer? :confused:
Yeah, they're going to be a Night Ranger tribute band. Canned Eggs will be doing all the eight finger tapping parts.
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
I dunno what we'll do. We could have them swap roles depending on the song.
Like ...Trail Of Dead? Cool!
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I played some more geetar at practice today, but the singer didn't show up. Oh well, we sounded awesome for about the first time ever, and we finally played something I wrote. The drummer said it sounds like Weezer. Ehhhh... I was going for the Rubinoos.
We also played "Bite It, You Scum" by G.G. Allin.
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We're gonna start rotating some covers in our sets. Red:Shift are hopefully gonna do Faith No Mores Midlife Crisis, McAlmont & Butlers Yes, and one other which I momentarily forget.
Landfill are gonna do two Big Black songs, Kerosene and Steelworker.
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So far, we're mostly playing covers. "Shake Some Action," by the Flamin' Groovies, "Ferrytale" by the Hellacopters, "Ain't it Fun" by the Dead Boys...
We've only just started writing stuff now we've got a singer... sort of.
We played part of something the guitar player wrote today that he calls "Christ Lives On In My Stool."
I hate that guy.
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*lil Bump*
Coming up on March 18th is the second coffee house of the school year, which gives the student's bands a chance to show off what they got ( or in some cases dont got). Me and my bandmates have been brainstorming some covers of songs we could do (will be a max. of 2 songs or 10 minutes). Here is the list of possible songs we're debating on:
~Beach Boys- "Marcella"
~Eric Clapton- "Layla"
~Led Zeppelin- "Kashmir"
~Tenacious D- "Tribute"
~Jet- "Look what you've done"
~Ramones- "KKK Took My Baby Away"
~Chuck Berry- "Rollover Beethoven"
~Wings- "Live and Let Die"
~Shins- "Saint Simon"
~Red Hot Chile Peppers- "Under the Bridge"
~The Clash- "London Calling"
Feel free to cross out any you wouldnt want and vice versa:
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
*lil Bump*
Coming up on March 18th is the second coffee house of the school year, which gives the student's bands a chance to show off what they got ( or in some cases dont got). Me and my bandmates have been brainstorming some covers of songs we could do (will be a max. of 2 songs or 10 minutes). Here is the list of possible songs we're debating on:
~Beach Boys- "Marcella"
~Eric Clapton- "Layla"
~Led Zeppelin- "Kashmir"
~Tenacious D- "Tribute"
~Jet- "Look what you've done"
~Ramones- "KKK Took My Baby Away"
~Chuck Berry- "Rollover Beethoven"
~Wings- "Live and Let Die"
~Shins- "Saint Simon"
~Red Hot Chile Peppers- "Under the Bridge"
~The Clash- "London Calling"
Feel free to cross out any you wouldnt want and vice versa:
seems like a good list, although personally I'd do a bit more blues-y stuff. Tribute'd be fun though :D
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Ooh! "Kashmir"! You have to do that one. And for a second song, I can't decide between "Tribute" and "Live and Let Die". :) Sounds like an awesome list, though.
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@3/4: Do "Live and Let Die." That's a cool song.
Meh, I'm not in a rock band at school-- they don't have very many indie bands with piccolo players.
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I might be able to get a fairly big gig for my band soon, but we don't have a whole set worth of material. Or a singer who can sing any of our songs...
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
*lil Bump*
Coming up on March 18th is the second coffee house of the school year, which gives the student's bands a chance to show off what they got ( or in some cases dont got). Me and my bandmates have been brainstorming some covers of songs we could do (will be a max. of 2 songs or 10 minutes). Here is the list of possible songs we're debating on:
~Beach Boys- "Marcella"
~Eric Clapton- "Layla"
~Led Zeppelin- "Kashmir"
~Tenacious D- "Tribute"
~Jet- "Look what you've done"
~Ramones- "KKK Took My Baby Away"
~Chuck Berry- "Rollover Beethoven"
~Wings- "Live and Let Die"
~Shins- "Saint Simon"
~Red Hot Chile Peppers- "Under the Bridge"
~The Clash- "London Calling"
Feel free to cross out any you wouldnt want and vice versa:
Do you have original songs? I'd much rather hear those. Covers are so boring and overdone.
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And then of course, there's Phil Collins. But he sucks.
He was great until Genesis realised that making pop music was more lucrative than making decent music...
My band have a gig tomorrow! Evil Dick's first gig in nearly half a year, and featuring a new member on bassoon! It's going to be awesome!
And my other band, House of Spon, are sounding very cool right now. I can't wait 'till we get a proper gig to strut our stuff at.
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Bish, do you know how fucking obnoxious that is when people quote entire large posts? Especially when it's the post RIGHT ABOVE your own!?
One of my friends is making a video for his Com class called "Born to Shred". I can't wait to see all the fretwanking(and regular kind) in this one.
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
We're gonna start rotating some covers in our sets. Red:Shift are hopefully gonna do Faith No Mores Midlife Crisis, McAlmont & Butlers Yes, and one other which I momentarily forget.
Been Caught Stealing by Janes Addiction. I remembered.
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I had the idea that we could rock the hell out of "I Think We're Alone Now."
Yeah, I sort of don't know what to do with a chick singer.
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Funny that, I went and saw a gig by a young chick singer (in the mould of the sexy nightclub chantoise, no less) this evening. I think there have been a few attempts by my good self to horn-in on some of this action by voluteering to be in a backing band of some type. I think this was an attempt by her management to get us to collaborate, or something....
Failing that, I think we're just gonna try and play some gigs with this girl.
There's something eminently disturbing about some breathy 17 year old, slinking around a stage in a thin off-the-shoulder number, singing songs of sex and the like.
I'm old enough to be her father....
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Originally posted by bankrupt:
Do you have original songs? I'd much rather hear those. Covers are so boring and overdone.
My band does have a great number of originals that we have wrote, but at school events like this, everybody performs originals, so we want to break the mold.
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Yeah, it's always a good idea to break the mold by fitting into a much larger one.
Top of the page disdain for covers
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In that case, if you want to break the mold, do a cover, but cover something else.
I propose Untitled by Black Dice (http://epitonic.com/artists/blackdice.html). Should be fairly easy to cover as well.
And you're gonna break a lot of mold, believe me.
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I might have a gig in 2 weeks. We are so not ready.
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Yeah, but having something to definately work towards is good, besides meandering along can be pointless.
I've done both. I praccied for two years with my first band, and gigged within a few weeks once I joined Red:Shift.
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I'm gonna have to turn down the gig almost certainly, and it's a dagger in my heart. This was a captive audience of a couple hundred, getting free drinks, at a campus-wide grad students' association party. And we're really tight as a band. I think we'd be great. The only problem is we don't have a singer who can sing any of our songs, and I don't think we'll be ready to gig with the singer in 2 weeks.
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How many rehearsals can you get in during that time?
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We'll see. Rehearsal tomorrow is likely to be very half-assed. One of the complicating factors is that use of our rehearsal space, i.e. my garage, is a bit contentious right now. And I've sworn not to get in a fistfight over this.
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OK, my advice is, wait until you know for definate before deciding to cancel. You could wing-it, surely? Plus, having this dealine may get you whipped into shape pretty quick.
It's doable.
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How long do you have beofre you've got to give a definite answer, Eggs? I'd keep working toward doing the gig right up until the drop-ead date, then make a final call one way or the other.
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The problem is that the drop-dead date is probably weeks ago. They have no chance of finding another band at this point, which is more or less why they came to us.
Ah well, they've managed without a band for two or three years. Anyway, I'll know after rehearsal tomorrow whether it's doable. It's all in the singer's hands, but I have the distinct impression she's not going to be up to it.
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Bumpity.
I feel more optimistic now. I think we can play the show, if this guy can get his act together enough to get us a real PA. We played for like six hours today. We put together a cover of a Britney Spears song and everything. It's gonna be great.
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That's excellent!
In other news, I've got a show in Wakefield coming on March 1st, and it will be the first Bloody Marys show with our new keyboard player. He's settled in really well, and it's only taken four two-hour rehearsals to get him up-to-speed.
Yesterdays rehearsal we played through our potential set, and even had time to put another new song in.
The place where we're playing records and films each band playing (using nine cameras dotted around the stage), so we're going to have a Bloody Marys DVD. Which'll be cool.
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
We put together a cover of a Britney Spears song and everything.
Which song and in what style did you cover it ?
I would love hearing a punk cover of "Not a girl not yet a woman" with a man screaming all the words and the beat and everything going in twice the tempo of the real song.
Covers like that are always the best, almost a case in point (Not a guy singing/screaming): Homegrown - Barbie Girl (http://hem.passagen.se/xmpel/homegrownbarbiegirl.mp3)
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It was "Toxic." We garaged it out, with distorted guitar and all. It doesn't sound too bad. We're still working on it. I don't have a really solid idea for a bass line yet.
The real trouble is, we played about 12 hours this weekend, but all without the drummer. And he's gonna be pissed off that he has to play a Britney Spears song.
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Band practice was fair enough to leave me optimistic today, after a disaster Saturday. Looks like we have two viable rehearsal spaces now, so I don't have to get in fistfights anymore over use of my garage. Plus we wrote like two songs. We still suck. And the drummer's still a flake.
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
The place where we're playing records and films each band playing (using nine cameras dotted around the stage), so we're going to have a Bloody Marys DVD. Which'll be cool.
We played this gig, this Tuesday, and it was pretty damn good. The DVD we got of it rules!
Just before playing, I vomited behind my drums. Didn't feel queezy beforehand, and I'm not sure if it was because of nerves. Still, the gig went off as planned, and we got a great reception from the crowd.
I'll see if I can get some clips of the gig to post.
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I just had a band practice earlier in the week, and I was impressed at how well the band played considering it's been since early November that we've had a gig.
We went over the 2 songs my band chose to play ("Boulevard of Broken Dreams", Green Day and "Look What You've Done", by Jet) and it really went smooth. I really didnt want to play either of those songs at the gig, but I was overruled by majority.
Meh, at least we'll get a big reaction from the crowd considering that those 2 songs are at their peak popularity currently.
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Well my gig over the weekend was a raging success....! We apparently surprised everyone at how good we were, (I dunno, does that mean people were expecting us to be crap....?)
We played at a 21st, and it was our first real gig together where we played more than 4 songs.... :)
The original plan was to do 3 sets of 8, but time and noise restrictions forced us to change things a bit so we played 6 or 7 songs, had a break then plowed through the rest (about 9 songs)
By the time we started, most of the crowd were pissed but not too pissed that they didn't enjoy the music....!
It was great we got cheered after every song, and the birthday boy came up and played one as well....
For me it was a real boost in confidence having a crowd as responsive as that....I'm definately getting more confident on stage too, without the help of alcohol....! :p
Bring on the next gig, which should be soon....!
Pics to come soon too....
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Tryin' out a new drummer on Wednesday. One that can actually play. Cross your fingers for me.
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I recently played a band show at my school solo, because my band couldnt make it.
I played "God Only Knows" by the Beach Boys, "The Only Living Boy in New York" by Simon & Garfunkel, and "Pink Bullets" by The Shins (with backup from my sister on guitar).
Good gig, warm crowd, nice reactions. Not as much people showed up as in November 04' but it was fun nonetheless...
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Ahh, reviews, here's one I dug up of the last Red:Shift CD, "The Big Nowhere".
Red:Shift
The Big Nowhere EP
On first listen I was convinced this was poor, but these shifty characters were too sly for me
its actually great! There is some delightful guitar interaction on the opener Stenton giving a feel of a lighter Idlewild, and by the intriguing percussion on the last song Destinations youre heavily involved in trying to predict the next melody twist. Red:Shift have managed to sound dark and uncomfortable while still welcoming the listener in for an aural cup of tea and a Jaffa cake, and I like that.
It's from Sandman magazine (http://www.sandmanmagazine.co.uk/york/demos/demos002.html).
Heh, Jaffa Cakes! :D
Bizarrely, their Leeds counterpart reviewed our last show, gave us a panning, describing us as "hair metal" (presumably without the hair, or the metal).
When it surfaces online, I'll post it, because it's hilarious.
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So Red:Shift was a hairless, non-metalic band? Cool.
I finally got up the guts to go jam with some buddies last weekend. What a blast. They were each more seasoned than I but they were tollerant of my amaturish playing. Somehow, we all managed to pull it together and make some sounds "that 're mellow" What a blast.
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Nasty I would vote for the songs you want if you replaced Jessy with me...
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Originally posted by FilthyCrab:
So Red:Shift was a hairless, non-metalic band?
Was? Still is. We're gearing up for a return to the stage with some new material. Mightily good it is too. We're ditching a few of the pretentious instrumentals for a while, and going with a back-to-basics approach. Some of the new stuff is some of the rockiest stuff we've done.
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Originally posted by Whoopwhoopwhoop:
Nasty I would vote for the songs you want if you replaced Jessy with me...
If Jesse gets bored with the band or goes away to college, then sure. You can join.
But I am yet to hear you play yet...
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Drummer Available for Practice, and more
* Has own kit
* Has own car
* 1 careful owner
* 10 months MOT and tax exempt
* Never been smoked in
* On the rebound from previous band collapse
* Is far too serious for playing ability
* Likes cowbell
* Mmm, tea
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Come to Santa Cruz, jerk. I need a drummer. And I have lots of tea.
Actually, we might be trying out a new drummer in about 2 hours. I know he's good; I just want to see if he'll have any interest in playing what I want to play.
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Ah, pictures! this is the Bloody Marys gig (supporting The Billy Nayer Show (http://www.billynayer.com)) last Sunday:
(http://img118.echo.cx/img118/4895/bloodymarysigp12065gh.th.jpg) (http://img118.echo.cx/my.php?image=bloodymarysigp12065gh.jpg)
(http://img118.echo.cx/img118/4787/bloodymarysigp12123al.th.jpg) (http://img118.echo.cx/my.php?image=bloodymarysigp12123al.jpg)
(http://img118.echo.cx/img118/6739/bloodymarysigp12163gs.th.jpg) (http://img118.echo.cx/my.php?image=bloodymarysigp12163gs.jpg)
(http://img118.echo.cx/img118/5417/bloodymarysigp12321qb.th.jpg) (http://img118.echo.cx/my.php?image=bloodymarysigp12321qb.jpg)
(http://img118.echo.cx/img118/1141/bloodymarysigp12334si.th.jpg) (http://img118.echo.cx/my.php?image=bloodymarysigp12334si.jpg)
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Music-Related. Here are some pics of PEEL's first band, The Beerdie Weirdies. Starring Capn Skusting, Melllvar, Nasty Pasty, Whoopwhoopwhoop, Pitt Clemens, The Mad Capper, and JBERGES!
sorry Eggs...
Capper and Pitt do A little Jig
(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2144/peelcon22cb.th.jpg) (http://img32.imageshack.us/my.php?image=peelcon22cb.jpg)
Whoopx3 tears up the drumz while JBERGES watches
(http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/4414/peelcon30fj.th.jpg) (http://img285.imageshack.us/my.php?image=peelcon30fj.jpg)
Nasty Pasty and Pitt Clemens Rock it Out!
(http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1605/peelcon42ko.th.jpg) (http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=peelcon42ko.jpg)
Everybody's favorite drummer...MELLLVAR!
(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/336/peelcon57tl.th.jpg) (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=peelcon57tl.jpg)
The Full Band Jamming to "Nasty Weather". Hint hint, that's Dave Mason on bass ;)
(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3714/peelcon11mi.th.jpg) (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=peelcon11mi.jpg)
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I finally bought a new bass yesterday, Ibanez 900 series....it's a honeysuckle colour (red/orange starburst style) and it sounds fucking awesome.... :) Cost me $1495 with a stand, strap and a hard carry case....
Pics soon....!
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My band is playing one last time this sunday at my yearly BBQ before we all go away to college. Needless to say, it's gonna be tough to break up.
We're playing about 20 or so songs of covers and a few originals, but here are some of the covers we're doing:
-"Come Together", The Beatles
-"Revolution", The Beatles
-"I Am The Walrus, The Beatles
-"Heroes and Villains", Beach Boys
-"Sloop John B", Beach Boys
-"London Calling", The Clash
-"I Wanna Be Sedated", The Ramones
-"The KKK Took My Baby Away", The Ramones
-"Boulevard of Broken Dreams", Green Day
-"Look What You've Done", Jet
-"Under the Bridge", Red Hot Chile Peppers
-"Kashmir", Led Zeppelin
-"A Hazy Shade of Winter", Simon & Garfunkel
-"Tribute", Tenacious D
-"Behind Blue Eyes", The Who
Might do more, but I don't know yet...
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I called up a prospective drummer this afternoon, and he said he was interested. Then he said, "can I call you back? I'm tying up my boat."
Cool.
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Excellent.
I had a rehearsal for a Red:Shift gig this thursday all-day on Sunday. There's a new rehearsal-space/studio for bands in York, which pretty much rocks. We got a live recording of the last 40 minutes of our rehearsal (a blast through our set, which includes three new songs).
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*BUMP*
Been in the recording studio today. Recording drum tracks for both my bands. The idea was to get as many done as possible, so we got 7 tracks done for Bloody Marys and 5 tracks done for Red:Shift, each with two or three takes, it was a hell of a session.
Good work, if I say so myself.
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
I called up a prospective drummer this afternoon, and he said he was interested. Then he said, "can I call you back? I'm tying up my boat."
Cool.
This fucker hasn't called me back in a week and a half. I don't need another flake for a drummer. Arse! I'm never going to rock! And I found out my other good prospect moved out of town, way the hell out to Mendocino. I have no band until someone shows up to play the drums.
Poo.
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*bump*
Tis' a shame.
Last month, my band played what will most likely be out last gig. With Jesse(drumz) going off to college, and only me and Andrew(keyboards) staying within visiting distance, it looks like that's it.
We came together last year as just a one-night-gig band to play at my annual BBQ, but we all enjoyed playing together so much that we stuck together. We only played about half a dozen shows, but the practices and jam sessions were awesome. I'm really gonna miss this band, but I hope that we might meet up again in the future.
Here is our final setlist:
Set 1:
-"Future Guy", Nasty Pasty
-"I Wanna Be Sedated", The Ramones
-"London Calling", The Clash
-"Under the Bridge", Red Hot Chile Peppers
-"Boulevard of Broken Dreams", Green Day
-"A Hazy Shade of Winter", Simon & Garfunkel
-break-
(Solo & Duo Stuff)
- Nintendo Etc (Marra)
-"Incomplete", Backstreet Boys (Brian)
-"Tears In Heaven", Eric Clapton (Brian)
-"Imagine", John Lennon (Rob)
-"Pink Bullets", The Shins (Rob)
-"Behind Blue Eyes", The Who (Rob and Brian)
-"Tribute", Tenacious D (Rob and Brian)
-"Sound of Silence", Simon & Garfunkel (Rob and Brian)
-break-
Set 2 (With Marra):
-"Heroes and Villains", Beach Boys
-"Look What You've Done", Jet
-"Sloop John B", Beach Boys
-"Come Together", Beatles
-"Twist and Shout", Isley Brothers
-"I Am the Walrus", Beatles
-"Kashmir", Led Zeppelin
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Over all, the last gig was the best we've ever played. The last set was absolutely incredible, with "Kashmir" and "Walrus" being the highlights.
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
Last month, my band played what will most likely be out last gig. With Jesse(drumz) going off to college, and only me and Andrew(keyboards) staying within visiting distance, it looks like that's it.
I'm really gonna miss this band, but I hope that we might meet up again in the future.
I hope this isn't the end.... you guys have sooo much fun. I feel a "winter break" reunion is in line. :cry:
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Red:Shift is officially winding down. After four rockin' years, we've decided to retire the mighty :Shift.
We will be working on the current recording (A Mini-Album, featuring the best of R:S and five new recordings) - tentatively titled "The Jackie O. Oppenheimer LP". We will then be arranging a "farewell" gig.
It's not been a bad run, loadsa gigs, tours, CDs and playing in London and at an AGI. We've done it all. :)
I'm down to one band, now. :hmpf:
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ILL PLAY DRUMS NASTY!!! On a further note, tomorrow I get to choose what bass I am getting for my bday.
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Oh yeah, I forgot your birthday is this weekend.
Well, good luck on getting the bass. Post what ya got in the "Guitar World" thread.
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I will, and there will be naked chicks too... But anyways, what company makes reliable Drum Heads?
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I wrote a song in the car today. It's called "Rock & Roll Donut."
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Originally posted by Whoopwhoopwhoop:
I will, and there will be naked chicks too... But anyways, what company makes reliable Drum Heads?
Remo does, use nothing else.
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Damn, why didn't I see it earlier?
Yes, Melllvar is right. Remo is the way to go, everything else is ... wait. Are there even other companies apart from Remo?
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Yeah, Evans and Pearl make them for sale over the counter, but Remo are the best ones.
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*Bump*
Well, I'm finally in a band and it's pretty cool. We are going to be a cover band at first doing Smashing Pumpkins and Alice In Chains songs first. Then slowly intergrating some originals into our sets.
Being in a band is definitely a is cool thing.
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That's what I did when I first joined a band, we played Porcupine Tree and Pink Floyd covers, then wrote our own stuff.
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I wish I could make music... I appreciate all value.... I love for different reasons... Drums keeps the beat... Bass too but with rhythm... Lead Guitar with most rhythym, and Vocals with whatever... I think I fit in vocals, but I want skills to back up.
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I got an electric guitar for my birthday today! Whee! :love:
Unfortunately, I'm clueless. But, what the hell, I'll learn.
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Intelligent musical people! Whoo!
Maybe someone in here can find me guitar chords to the song Take On Me by Aha.
And dont you dare tell me to go to Ultimate guitar or MxTabs... it's not there.
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Take On Me Chords (http://www.olga.net/dynamic/browse.php?printer=0&local=main/a/aha/take_on_me.crd)
Nothing beats OLGA (http://www.olga.net). :)
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*bumpages*
New Bloody Marys tracks... you wanna listen?
Folk Song (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/music/folksong.mp3)
^ Probably the only folk song to include the line "cunt motherfuckers, you bitches and whores!" It's a studio-track, the crowd noises are taken from recordings of gigs in the early days of BM's.
Our Rotten Potato (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/music/ourrottenpotato.mp3)
^ Good day at the office for me, this one. Drums is one take with no edits. Plus I sing on this one.
Emotional Song (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/music/emotionalsong.mp3)
^ Currently my favourite BMs song. Another good drum track on this one, but this song blows me away.
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I agree with you in that Emotional Song is the best. By far, actually. It seems like it has some urgency and honesty, maybe especially because the singer's voice has the kind of imperfections that I cherish so dearly with a guy such as Bob Geldof. Of course, it has a lot more musical depth than the other two, which seem like they were made for fun. The fun doesn't detract from the other two, since they are just that- fun. Maybe lightheaded and playful are more suitable words, but enjoyable is the actual keyword.
Were there ever any other songs available for download, because I'd like to hear more, since these three fall into three quite different genres and I'd just like to see if there's more consistency in some other material. The Bloody Marys isn't about genres, I take it?
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Fun is all about The Bloody Marys, the thing I like about Emotional Song, is that it's a bang-on satire on current musical trends (ie: Keane/Coldplay/etc) without piss-taking on the music (both Ryan and myself are fans of both bands), because the music is excellent.
Yeah, I have more BMs stuff. There's a song called "In The Next Life, I Think I'll Talk To Girls" which is elsewhere in this thread.
Yeah, we're not about genres, we stay within the Acoustic/Piano/Bass/Drums area, but styles are out-of-the-window. Our Rotten Potato sounds like Blink 182, for example.
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Damn, that's all rather good. Keep up the good work and please don't try and go all "serious". :D
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What do you think to my singing?
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When are you two gonna find me a drummer?
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When I move to the US, I'll be your drummer.
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Very nice stuff Melll.
I forgot how good you were, definitely can't wait to jam again.
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So that's on then! I'm holding you to that!
Whose kit was it?
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Heh, I actually like Emotional Song better than Keane and new-ish Coldplay stuff. For the reasons I mentioned before. Coldplay got too polished (still decently made, but I found Parachutes more interesting and enjoyable), and Keane just don't catch on with me. They're nicely melodic, but they lack something I can't put to words since I don't even know what it is.
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
Very nice stuff Melll.
I forgot how good you were, definitely can't wait to jam again.
Indeed. It must be said that you caught me on a bad day. I should arrive a little earlier, and warm up first.
Thanks for the comments all. :D
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Trying out a new drummer this weekend. He claims to have no talent, but he has to be better than the trainwreck we started with.
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I'd rather have someone who claims to be bad and is actually OK than someone who claims to be good and ends up being rubbish.
Well, I got round to upgrading my studio. Out goes the old Yamaha eight year old PSR awful keyboard, in comes and blazing gorgeous Korg Triton Extreme (and out goes my bank balance)...Yay!
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Meh. He flaked out and asked to postpone until next weekend, but the guitar player scored another guy who wants to try out in the meantime. We might actually play again. That would rule.
Basically, at this point I don't care if a drummer can play like a pro as long as he a) shows up sober, and b) has never been in AFI.
I've been listening to old Irish war songs lately, and I been thinking it would be awesome to play some, all rocked out. I mean, thematically, they're perfect for power metal anyway.
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I'll offer my services. Bring the band to Paramus, we'll jam. I am well known for my sobriety.
In other news, it's official.
NO DRUMMER WANTED
Tightest rhythm section in Reading seeks band. Any instruments or styles accepted. Call: archie2k@ntlworld.com
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Shameless Plug Time!
Ye still has two days to decide and/or figure out if you can make it to the
X-Brothers (http://hotrails.co.uk/bds/xbros/index.htm) gig in good ol' upstate NY.
Thursday Night (Thanksgiving) at
The Green Derby
113 West Second Street
Elmira, New York
phone 607-733-1198
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Originally posted by Cap'n Skusting:
Shameless Plug Time!
Ye still has two days to decide and/or figure out if you can make it to the
X-Brothers (http://hotrails.co.uk/bds/xbros/index.htm) gig in good ol' upstate NY.
Thursday Night (Thanksgiving) at
The Green Derby
113 West Second Street
Elmira, New York
phone 607-733-1198
Second show added on Friday night.
Same place!
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I popped two strings in one week... I didnt think it was possible to break bass strings, but I was wrong...
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A plug for the new Bloody Marys stuff, firstly a pic of the BMs:
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/melll1972/bm_new.jpg)
Top: Ryan Bottom: Me, Kate & Ian.
We've finished our first album, call "Demonstrations", here's the cover:
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/melll1972/demonstrations.jpg)
1) Folk Song
2) Sinners - remixed
3) Shit Father - remastered
4) In the Next Life - remastered
5) Suicide Baby
6) Our Rotten Potato
7) Bring U Down
8) Into the Gloom - remixed
9) D-Flowered - remastered
10) Emotional Song
Launch gig is this Sunday.
:)
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Melll - I keep forgeting to mention...
The Bloody Mary (skippered by Cap'n South)is the sister ship to the Black Barnacle.
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Very cool! :D
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i just saw that nasty wanted me to post a pic of my fender
here it is with me
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c182/CrapBag12/100_3961.jpg)
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c182/CrapBag12/100_3953.jpg)
oh ya, i play harmonica, and banjo too. i suck at both
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This isnt the thread I was talking about, but very nice anyway. :p
http://www.peelified.com/cgi-bin/Futurama/12-001771/ (http://www.peelified.com/cgi-bin/Futurama/12-001771/)
How much ya get it for?
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Here's one tune I have nearly finished. I have mate currently listening to it to come up with lyrics. The music itself is complete but needs final mastering, which i dont do until i get a vocal track down.
http://www.thebigman.co.uk/james/priv/Blue_Cheese-07.mp3 (http://www.thebigman.co.uk/james/priv/Blue_Cheese-07.mp3)
It's called Blue Cheese, but its really cheesy, very much like ACDC, and its also a little bluesey (the main riff has that diminished 7th which you can hear).
Tell me what you think :D
I'm also in the middle of mixing a really heavy kinda powermetal tune. if anyone wants to hear a current take, lemme know.
EDIT: yes i know i said Dim 5th before. my bad
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i got it for about 400, its a mexican, im only 15, and cant afford an american, but u will not believe how great it sounds. i love the color too
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Just from looking at the second pic of the strat, the bridge looks like its leaning forward, you might wanna add a spring to the tension plate inside the back. It aint critically necessary, but if you snap a string the rest will go out of tune. If your bridge is leaning forward toward the neck that is.
Also, when you bend a note on the G or D strings, the others will decrease in pitch slightly due to the slight increase in tension (try it). But that's all down to your style of playing, and its one thing I dislike about floating bridges.
Nice guitar though, very hendrix :)
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thats what i was goin for
edit.
whoa. very good song fury. very bluesy, and sounds like an acdc. i wrote a song called "the emo blues" (making fun of emo kids) but i need to convert it to mp3 before i get it on the net.
is that u on lead guitar?
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Yep all the guitars are recorded by me. The solo is a bit shit, but i cant be arsed coming up with anything else right now. I'm focusing on my other track.
The bass is a VST (Steinberg Virtual Bassist) and the drums are samples ive pulled from a pool of around 8 drumkits i have on CD.
While I'm on the topic, does anyone have a guitar rack kinda VST module? I'm after a wah-filter but I dont have a cry baby at hand...
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Apologies for the double post, but I think this deserves attention...
I seen this advertised on Kerrang, and I'm entering, so I think the other talented individuals on this board should too...
http://www.studentmusicawards.co.uk/ (http://www.studentmusicawards.co.uk/)
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you should. i still have ur song on my iTUnes. i love the sound.
TOTPD
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Well, I FINALLY finished the arrangement for my second track, Knights of Cocytus. Have a listen, and lemme know:
http://www.thebigman.co.uk/james/priv/Knights-of-Cocytus.mp3 (http://www.thebigman.co.uk/james/priv/Knights-of-Cocytus.mp3)
This is the track I'll be entering, I think, unless people convince me to send over Blue Cheese. The thing is, Cheese is incomplete, it lacks a vocal track :/, and Knights is an instrumental.
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Oooh, good stuff SF.
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*one month bump*
Seeing as how my band members are in between semesters in college and are home with nothing to do, I decided to see if we could get in a quick gig to keep us in practice.
So we got on the bill at a tiny place called "Cool Beans" a town over. It was a sweet little joint, and cramped as all hell. We were about 5th on the set, and we had, like, 5 minutes to lug all our amps, drumsets, and keyboard onto this tiny little stage. Once we finally got set up, our amps were being total dicks and cutting in and out, so after a few smacks, they finally started working.
However, despite all the problems we went up, did our two songs, and they sounded great. To save time on practicing, we just did two covers from our song library, "Come Together" by the Beatles and "Kashmir" by Led Zeppelin. Great reactions from the crowd, and I got quite a few complements on my Robert Plant vocal.
All in all, a pretty good show. Certainly not the best, but not the worst...
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*tiny bump*
Pixs!
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/qe286/Pix/hall.jpg)
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/qe286/Pix/stageset.jpg)
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/qe286/Pix/stageset2.jpg)
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/qe286/Pix/robbrian.jpg)
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Nasty, what's up with the mic stand?
Also, I'm on the hard sell, The Marys' CD is now for sale online: here (http://www.take1records.co.uk/cd.php?cdcode=IND-BM01)
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It's a Christmas mic, d'uh.
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@Melll: It's the place's house mic. Apparently some shitty band before us took it and threw it to the ground, breaking the piece that holds the mic in place, so we had to fix it with ducktape.
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Mmm, new band, new music, new danger:
Track1 Demo (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/music/F-Zero1Track1.mp3)
Track2 Demo (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/music/F-Zero1Track2.mp3)
Track3 Demo (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/music/F-Zero1Track3.mp3)
Track4 Demo (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/music/F-Zero1Track4.mp3)
Track5 Demo (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/music/F-Zero1Track5.mp3)
The aim is to have a band like DFA1979, just bass and drums. We've bashed out these songs this morning, to give to a potential vocalist. Some girl with a bluesy voice.
Sound cool?
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I have got to give you some props, Mell. I definitely am a fan of a deep sounding bass drum; because, I feel it adds more power to the song. Actually, the music in general is pretty cool. I really dig the bass riffs in the first couple of songs.
Good work dude. I hope this band works out for you.
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Thanks man, it's a first bash we've had together, and we're just working out structures, really. The practice space we used, records the last 30 mins of your rehearsal and gives you a cd.
This is what we came out with. The idea is to expand on these, and also give our potential vocalist (called Suzy, she's a folky bluesy singer, and hopefully might be up for rocking out with us) them to work out any vocal parts. There's plenty of scope in there for vocals.
The band's going to be called F-Zero1.
Also, here's pics of my current set up:
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/melll1972/drums/drums1.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/melll1972/drums/drums2.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/melll1972/drums/drums3.jpg)
Think I need more cymbals.
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Also, that's a cool name to by the way. Mainly, because F-Zero was one of my favorite video games ever!
Once again, good luck to you.
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F-Zero1 is a reference to an obscure Japanese Sci-Fi Puppet show from the 80's called Star Fleet (http://www.sfxb.co.uk/). It was shown at 10am on a Saturday morning when we were kids, and it was bloody brilliant.
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I remember the Brian May music for Star Fleet!
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Is there a default setup that drummers are taught to use? I'm starting to really dig the basic kits that don't boast and brag. I mean- what's the point of two bass drums, really?
One comment for that kit: More cowbell.
I am downloading the songs now, but the transfers keep stopping. Good thing Opera can resume.
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Originally posted by Pikka Bird:
Is there a default setup that drummers are taught to use? I'm starting to really dig the basic kits that don't boast and brag. I mean- what's the point of two bass drums, really?
One comment for that kit: More cowbell.
Us guitarists can't comprehend drums. For the same reason drummers can't understand why 11 is "one louder"...
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11 just is one louder, simple as. Sadly, my Cube only goes to 10. :cry:
And by the way- I think Dave Grohl made a nice transition. But generally, I think rhythm takes a different route through the body of a drummer than one of a guitarist. Unless you're "drumming" for The Corrs. Then the rhythm crashes off the track just at the brain.
Go find the The Show Must Go Off #1-DVD from Kung Fu Records. The Vandals play The House of Blues... Watch it with the Freesecam angle. Now there are some passages of something my brain can't even make sense of.
Hey Melll, I got track 3 down, and I gotta say- keep the sound like this, please. By all means, make a better recording, but keep it rattling and clanky, for loss of better words. You know- if you take the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy now, would it? I'm all for distorted basses.
And if you get a vocalist, you have to leave lots of instrumental parts, because it could turn into something gorgeous.
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My amp goes to 12.
Beat that Mr Pussy Amp!
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(http://www.faradic.net/~sphynx/crybaby.jpg)
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...lovely.
I took delivery of Triton Extreme a few months ago...kicks the hell out of nearly every other keyboard out there. Great little synth, pictures to follow...
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Originally posted by Pikka Bird:
Hey Melll, I got track 3 down, and I gotta say- keep the sound like this, please. By all means, make a better recording, but keep it rattling and clanky, for loss of better words. You know- if you take the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy now, would it? I'm all for distorted basses.
And if you get a vocalist, you have to leave lots of instrumental parts, because it could turn into something gorgeous.
That's the idea, very like Death From Above 1979 (just distorted bass, drums & vocals), but we wanted a female bluesy singer.
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(http://www1.eboard.com/boards/17/31/59/SkustingsFlagEmporium/att-841055/eleven.JPG)
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An old Gibbie SG?
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It's one louder, isn't it?
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Of course, it has 11. Damn.
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Originally posted by Impossible:
It's one louder, isn't it?
You stole my quote! Damn you! ;)
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
Us guitarists can't comprehend drums. For the same reason drummers can't understand why 11 is "one louder"...
The reason being that drummers who are not pussies don't understand that there's another way to play apart from 11. And possibly 12.
It has to be loud or it doesn't rock.
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I've always hated the gigs where I've had to give it "less", one gig in Brighton there was a limiter on the wall, and I had to keep my eye on it at all times. If we lit the red lights on the limiter for three seconds sustained, then the power got cut.
That blew.
Or acoustic gigs where I've had to play quietly, I can't do it.
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Originally posted by SiliconFuRy:
An old Gibbie SG?
1963
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I got a song recorded on my computer that I did but filelodge can't upload it because it goes over the maximum file size limit. So, if anyone is willing to host it that would be cool.
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If you don't have a deadline, I'll gladly host it... Just send it to pikka.bird@gmail.com
...Airbags said some of the rather large files timed out when she tried to get them off my webspace, but those were well above 100 MB, and she has a dodgy connection, so it should all be good.
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Pikka, I will email it to you when I get it finished up because the sound quality really stunk on this recording... And don't worry about doing it right away. You upload it on your own time.
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OK, today's been a little bit crazy for The Bloody Marys, here's why:
Band For Sale (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4833230047)
As a novel idea, and a push for a little publicity we're selling a gig on Ebay. Basically, we'll come to your house and play an 80 minute set.
Now, Ryan's going on the radio this afternoon (BBC Radio Leeds - Drivetime from 4pm (http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/radioleeds/) - live at 4.45!) to play a couple of songs in the studio, and some newspapers have snapped up the story.
We've even had an enquiry about playing a birthday party in Inverness.
It's very bizarre.
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Heh, great idea Melll. I'd bid, but you'd end up paying for plane tickets yourself...
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Indeed, read the "small print". :p
Ryan's on the radio in the next half hour, so click the link and listen. Should be fun.
I'm not there because I've got a family thing and I can't make it.
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I love how you guys wrote "The winner most prove he or she can provide electricity!" Also, great idea Mell, sounds like a new and unique way to promote the band.
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To anyone who's interested, here's Ryan's radio interview from this afternoon:
Part 1 - Featuring "In The Next Life..." (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/music/ryanradioleeds1.mp3)
Part 2 - just a bit of chat. (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/music/ryanradioleeds2.mp3)
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Wayne this the best idea to put on EBay and well better then Jordan selling her boobs on EBay
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Well, we think we're the first band ever to do this, so it's all looking pretty good so far. "Making music history" is what the radio said, I sure like the sound of that.
Ebay's up to Ģ21.00, and the Inverness Birthday Party people definately want us to go there.
It's all very bizarre, but good fun, and I'm enjoying watching the whole thing happen. Obviously, missing the radio interview was a bind, but I got to listen and record it, so I'm happy.
If it gets us a few more fans, than it's all good.
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Awesome. I should book gigs like that. But then I'd have to pay you royalties...
Anyway, the drummer didn't show up to band practice yesterday, but I was solicited by another drummer shortly afterwards. Hmmm... should I take on a seventh drummer in two years?
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Mell - Brilliant idea!
And the added bonus of being an e-Bay first!
Bring Bloody Mary cds to PEELathon.
I'll buy one!
Eggs - Your drummer woes would probably make for an interesting screenplay or reality show. Maybe you're just not plying them with the right beverage?
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Update: Ebay's up to Ģ32.00, definate interest from Inverness and Coventry, bizarre.
Also, we were in the local newspaper last night, half a page article, featuring a big pic of us.
Possible interest in the story from one of the Nationals (The Sun - only a circulation of about 8 million). Keep your fingers crossed for us.
:D
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Wow, that's awesome Mell! Who knows publicity like this might lead to record deals or whatnot.
Anyways, good luck to you dude!
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We can only see, we're getting a few gig offers (something we had to chase before, now they're just coming to us), and it's all pretty exciting. Making the band viable is the main thrust of doing this.
This week should hopefully bring more newspaper publicity and maybe a little more radio, who knows...
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Originally posted by Squeaky:
Wow, that's awesome Mell! Who knows publicity like this might lead to record deals or whatnot.
Anyways, good luck to you dude!
Hmmm...Ģ32.00. Thats about the price of an LP...
I dont see much of a profit in the record company's future... :p
But yes, very nice news, Wayne. Best of luck. :)
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Nice Melll. Who knows, perhaps a state-side tour.
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Ģ32 =~ $55. Even with the inflated prices we pay here, what the hell kinda LPs do you buy?!
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
Hmmm...Ģ32.00. Thats about the price of an LP...
I dont see much of a profit in the record company's future... :p
But yes, very nice news, Wayne. Best of luck. :)
Nasty, I wasn't talking about the ebay auction leading to a record deal. I was mainly stating the fact that Melllvar's band has been getting publicity from the local and maybe the national newspapers in Britain might lead to a record deal.
Also, where do you buy albums?
:p
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Absolutely, the publicity is worth more than the price we get on Ebay, we're factoring that out of the equation.
Besides there's still 6 days to go and we're at 32 quid with around 20 watchers. So I reckon it's going to go up. I'm ready to play in Inverness.
More news, I'm going on the Radio today. BBC Radio York have invited me and the manager in to do an interview. Should be fun.
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Interview was great fun. They played two songs, talked to myself, Dave (the manager) in the studio and Ryan on the phone. They seemed to genuinely like the music too.
More to follow soon, I'll try and get a recording of it to post too.
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Originally posted by Archie2K:
Ģ32 =~ $55. Even with the inflated prices we pay here, what the hell kinda LPs do you buy?!
Okay! Okay! Maybe two albums. :p
I was just joking in the first place...
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Congratulations Wayne on making this going so well. Any chance of getting the newspaper article scanned in some way?
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I'll look into it.
Meanwhile, the whole thing's not over yet, there's a small possibility that we'll be getting the call from local evening news on the TV (BBC Look North) to go into the studio to do an interview.
Who knows where this will end, but it's fun nonetheless.
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Oh Nice!!!!!!
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No TV today, fingers crossed for tomorrow, we're in the Culture Section of the Yorkshire Post on Friday though.
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When I get a better scanned version (that this faxed effort) I'll post it.
Meanwhile, here's the newspaper article about us:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/melllvar/bms_paper.jpg (http://members.lycos.co.uk/melllvar/bms_paper.jpg)
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oh brilliant
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Awesome stuff Melll.
I'd totally bid on that gig...
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Here it is again (better quality):
http://www.melllvar.co.uk/press_article.gif (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/press_article.gif)
And here's a review of our album:
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More press!
We're in the "Culture" section of today's Yorkshire Post (it's national, I think, so buy it!)
Colour pic too.
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here's the piece:
(http://www.melllvar.co.uk/bm_yp.jpg)
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Can I have your autograph?
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Oh please, we're not famous yet. ;)
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
Oh please, we're not famous yet. ;)
Yes, but when you ARE famous, you'll want nothing to do with US!!! :cry:
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Are you kidding, I'll be able to visit more, you won't be able to get rid of us.
It'll be a long standing ambition to have The Marys play on your porch at a PEELathon.
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By then, you'll be drumming for me. And Nasty and the Cap'n.
It'll be the sickest band ever.
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Indeed. Imagine the stuff we'd write off-the-bat.
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Wow, crazy. My drummer actually showed up for practice today. Cool. We got a lot accomplished. Everyone seems pumped now, but I think we're gonna have to cancel practice next week, because there's an academic conference everyone else has to go to.
Real momentum killer. This is why you don't want to be in a band that's all professional linguists.
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My new band has a name, and some tunes with vocals:
http://www.myspace.com/themurderhouseuk (http://www.myspace.com/themurderhouseuk)
We're called The Murderhouse.
Meanwhile, gig offers came in thick and fast for The Bloody Marys after our Ebay stunt (sold for Ģ53, and going to play some girls 18th Birthday Party, in YORK!) We're playing tonight.
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Melll, that is such a novel idea. I'll have to interview you.
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Sure, drop me an email (waynelm-at-gmail-dot-com) and I'll gladly be of service.
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Marge sold a house. The Murder House.
I approve.
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I still think it's mighty good, but I also think your singer should let loose a bunch more. Her voice is nice and pleasant, but I think for distortion-riddled instruments, the vocals should be a lot less tidy.
I know there's no basis for comparison here, genre-wise, but this is probably the perfect female rock n' roll voice:
Click for download page with nine rock-hard tracks. (http://magnum44.dk/eng/index2.asp?vis=media)
Oh, I like the name too...
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Just how many freaking bands are you in Triple-L?
Red:Shift, Bloody Marys, The Murderhouse?
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If you read the biog on The Murderhouse's myspace, it says "After the demise of Red:Shift...."
So, just two.
Thanks for the comments, the tracks are very rough, and Suzy's still finding her feet (we already have a gig coming up too! Eek!)
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I think it sounded good and I have to agree with Pikka on the vocalist. She definitely needs to just go for it with her voice and not hold back.
Anyways, good luck at your upcoming gig, Mell.
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Yeah, and I think (if I know voices- which I don't) that she could make it work. It's just that the stuff she's doing now has a bit much of a folk-esque feel to it.
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Well, she is a Folk Singer, once she gets a gig under her belt, then she'll start belting out a little.
One thing to add, is that we're trying to do against the norm here too, one reason I absolutely wanted to work with a female vocalist (mainly because I never have).
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*bump*
I jammed with a few guys tonight and we sounded pretty decent for a last second deal. We are definitely going to try to do it again and hopefully it will lead to a band. Who knows, I'm excited though.
Our singer somewhat sounds like Scott Weiland of Velvet Revolver. (Formerly the singer of STP)
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...which reminds me... The stuff you might let us listen to- What became of it?
(http://www.thepinkflyer.com/emot-iiam.gif)
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I don't have the recording software or the equipment to record my music in the way I want people to hear it. One thing is that the computer that I have available doesn't have the recording software I need to make a justifiable sample of some of my work.
The computer I have that is capable of recording is in the shop right now and who knows when it will be fixed...
Believe me as soon as I get some stuff recorded from jam sessions that we are having I will post them.
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We played "More than a Feelin'" today at band practice. Yeah, I'm having fun now. I just hope we can get it together enough to actually gig this spring. It's been a long time.
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I :heart: Boston.
In other REALLY good news, found out my band might open up for Lez Zeppelin at a concert in late spring. More on this later...
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Jammed with a guy up in Providence who screeches like the dude from Discordance Axis(me on guitar). Another kid I've known for a while who likes the same apparently plays drums.
I have to get to work on this, pronto.
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You need to cover "Dystopia."
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I'm most likely moving to LA by the middle part of the summer. To attend the Musician's Institute there, so finally I'll be where the industry is.
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Down with the music industry! DIY! DIY!
The only good labels are run out of apartment bedrooms by guys who smell bad!
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Originally posted by Squeaky:
I'm most likely moving to LA by the middle part of the summer. To attend the Musician's Institute there, so finally I'll be where the industry is.
What about the job you just got, and your college in Australia?
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I still want to go, I just don't have the money, connections, or anything for when I'm down there. If I were to be in a jam money wise I'm pretty screwed because I'm alone down there. LA, is just more realistic.
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Originally posted by Punching Bag:
Down with the music industry! DIY! DIY!
The only good labels are run out of apartment bedrooms by guys who smell bad!
Yeah, you can be safe in the knowledge that when you starve to death from being so poor, you'll know that you kept it real.
Integrity is overrated, I'd like to retire knowing that I can look after myself. Give me a deal.
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That's what jobs are for, doofus. :p
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:p
What would you want to work for, when you can make money while you're sleeping?
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Originally posted by Squeaky:
I don't have the recording software or the equipment to record my music in the way I want people to hear it. One thing is that the computer that I have available doesn't have the recording software I need to make a justifiable sample of some of my work.
i got a mic on my computer, and ive recorded some of my stuff, but it sounds like shit
my neighbor however, is putting a recording studio in his basement so he says hes gotta get me over there someday when its all done
Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
In other REALLY good news, found out my band might open up for Lez Zeppelin at a concert in late spring. More on this later...
whoa, great news
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
What would you want to work for, when you can make money while you're sleeping?
Feeling like I actually have a purpose in humanity.
It probably goes without saying that no bands I listen to will ever make enough money off their bands to live on it anyway unless they tour non-stop so my ethics just go along with my taste in music.
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Well, that's fair enough, but considering that I want to make a career out of this and shelf-life is at a premium at best, then I intend to try and get as much out of this as possible in the time we have.
I'd like to get into stage/lighting design at some point too. I'm trying a few bits of CAD, and researching a little.
After the band stuff is over with, then it's a decent enough sideline.
I could be the next Mark Fisher (http://www.stufish.com), but that's probably a little over ambitious. ;)
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I wiped down my cymbals with some guitar polish and paper towels to see what would happen. The paper towel turned a dark shade of green. That's so awesome.
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The Murderhouse's first ever gig was last night, supporting PEEL AGI4 Band, Dust Bowl Central, we played well, and went down even better.
Was very cool!
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*bump*
Hard work on the band seems to be paying off. We're playing the following Festival in June:
http://www.sunrisecelebration.com/ (http://www.sunrisecelebration.com/)
And appearing on a cover CD on the following magazine:
http://www.festivaleye.com/ (http://www.festivaleye.com/) (circulation: 30,000)
We're also playing the Ripon Beer Festival on Monday ( Click here (http://www.supportriponcathedral.com/events.htm) ), and Hardraw Bash at Hardraw Force in the Dales in July.
Possible further festival dates in August. But I can't tell you about that yet.
http://www.myspace.com/thebloodymarys (http://www.myspace.com/thebloodymarys) in case you didn't know which band.
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Got an invite to be in a friend's band. Wants me to sing lead vocals on a bunch of songs and play Rhythm guitar. Went to a practice session to hear some of his stuff, and it's pretty good, so I'll stick around for the time being...
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Managed to get tune from my old band Formaldehyde Blues Train uploaded!
Enjoy it!
Voo Doo Necatarine (http://www1.eboard.com/boards/17/31/59/SkustingsFlagEmporium/att-1251299/VoodooNectarine.mp3)
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Dude, I've had that song stuck in my head for a while. It rules. You find any more stuff, you let me know.
Hey, we're trying to record something real soon. We have a heroin ballad ready to go, more or less. We're probably gonna have to do it in my house, so anybody have any advice on miking the drums? I'm thinking we might have to record the drum track someplace other than the garage. Maybe Headley Grange style, with the drums at the bottom of the staircase and the mic upstairs. 'Cause we ain't got a lot of microphones.
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I play some.
in fact my most recent project ive been learning is dire straits
sultans of swing, very long song.
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With the bandmates finally out of school for the summer, we've finally began to get together and write some new stuff and practice. We're all so damn rusty...
Brian, my lead guitarist and collaborator seems to have found us a possible weekly gig at a place down near his college which is looking for young bands to play on weekday evenings.
So we've set out to write a song that can be considered impressive enough to merit at least one show. So far we've been messing around with a couple ideas, and we've started work on an up-tempo rock song tentatively called "Ballad of a Sex Addict" which sounds like if you could take The White Stripes, AC-DC, and Def Leppard and smooshed them all together. Also have another song which was actually written by me and my girlfriend RabidPixy a couple weeks ago called "Lorelei" which is my attempt at rewriting "Caroline No" by the Beach Boys.
We have a bunch of other new one's we've been fooling around with including a real chugging Bluesy song currently being referred to as "Untitled Blues Song #43".
As soon as I get back in town on Sunday we're going to videotape a short performance of 3 songs, two originals and one cover (most likely "Come Together" by the Beatles), which we'll send to the place and hopefully land a regular summer gig...
Here's hoping... :hmpf:
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today I had a quick band practice at my drummers house. I play lead guitar, but I wanna sing too, but our singers not bad.
for 5 teenagers, we did some pretty decent songs
session sorta ended when my bassist broke a string.
Jet- Are you gonna be my girl [very fun to play]
Led Zeppelin- Moby Dick and Whole Lotta Love (possibly Communication Breakdown and living, Lovin maid)
Black Sabbath- War Pigs and Paranoid
Iron Maiden- The trooper
Jimi Hendrix- Fire and Purple Haze
Chuck Berry - JOhnny B goode
Sex Pistols- Anarchy in the UK
Ramones- Bonzo and Somebody put something in my drink
Cream- Sunshine of your Love (maybe White Room)
also, my friend had his friend, whos a bassist, over last night, and we did this really pathetic recording of fire, with me on drums (I SUCK) my drummer friend on bass and my bass friend on Guitar
the guitar was decent but god it was funny
we haven't written anything. well, I have, but nothing good.
also, we need a name.
any ideas?
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There's a band name thread here somewheres with tons of suggestions.
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The drummer didn't show up to band practice yesterday, and we sounded like shit, but we got a lot accomplished. We wrote two songs, and worked on a third. I just have to write a few more lyrics for our heroin ballad, and we finally got some music behind my song about the filthy fifty year old biker chicks that always hit on me. Nice upbeat three chord Rock & Roll. We're gonna record some stuff reasonably soon.
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Great song Cap'n. :)
*adds to playlist*
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Originally posted by CrapBag:
today I had a quick band practice at my drummers house. I play lead guitar, but I wanna sing too, but our singers not bad.
for 5 teenagers, we did some pretty decent songs
session sorta ended when my bassist broke a string.
also, we need a name.
any ideas?
my bassist broke a string
There's your name right there.
Or perhaps
I broke a string.
I'll be generous and let you choose. :p
Originally posted by Cap'n Skusting:
Managed to get tune from my old band Formaldehyde Blues Train uploaded!
Enjoy it!
Voo Doo Necatarine (http://www1.eboard.com/boards/17/31/59/SkustingsFlagEmporium/att-1251299/VoodooNectarine.mp3)
I love you, Captain.
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TNUK. PEEL's first 25-star General.
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Originally posted by KPAT:
I play some.
in fact my most recent project ive been learning is dire straits
sultans of swing, very long song.
my friends dad sold a double neck guitar to one of the guys in that band
theres a line in the song about it
good stuff cap'n
i'm having trouble finding the band name thread :nono:
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Advil has a candy coating. It's delicious. Then it says, right on the bottle, 'Do not have more than 2.' Well then do not put a candy coating around it, for I cannot help myself. Let me have 10 Advil. I got a sweet tooth.
-Mitch Hedberg
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Suggestions For My Band's Name (http://www.peelified.com/cgi-bin/Futurama/12-001978/)
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thanks
thats good, except that 90% use the word penis, sperm, scrotum and they are all a joke
my drummer came up with the name Twisted Illusion
I still prefer mine, "Wild Ride" (we're punk)
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That thread had my best posts ever. If you don't use one of my suggestions for your band name, you're almost as retarded as I am.
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hahaha, a republican punk band? that's something new
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Well, with everybody anti-Bush and all that shit nowadays, the only way to be rebellious is to be Republican...
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Sorry dude, Dead Kennedys is taken.
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scratch that,
apparently we're The Clicks
who says we're republican?
all my friends in the band are democrats
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You know I was thinking about this too. In music, the arts, etc. it seems to be acceptable to be left-wing, even far left-wing. Amongst punk musicians there is a definate anti-Bush bias, and in some places collectivism-apologism. Then, 2005 Nobel Prize winner Harold Pinter thinks that Bush and Blair should be tried for war crimes at The Hague yet supports dictators Milosovic and Castro. Rock Against Bush is released on NOFX' Fat Wreck label.
On the other hand, Rock Against Communism is released on Combat 18 - the National Front's record label. Right-wing bands are generally seen as extremist racist bands like Skrewdriver. Even Sweet Home Alabama, written in protest at Neil Young's anti-South lyrics, is geen as apoligising for Watergate and support segregationism.
Left-wingers have such good PR. It's acceptable to visit Stalinworld in Lithuania, yet no-one would ever build a theme park dedicated to Hitler. Che is kitsch, Pinochet's a brutal nutjob.
So yes, I think there should be more Republican punk bands. I mean, I currently enjoy that music but ignore all the liberal bullshit in between anyway.
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My backup guitarists dad works in a music store, so we get all this shit for free
such as
(http://img460.imageshack.us/img460/3043/roland9xt.png) (http://imageshack.us)
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Originally posted by CrapBag:
My backup guitarists dad works in a music store, so we get all this shit for free
I want the oldest, most used, but still working Mesa Boogie ya kin find!
As long it's free.
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Well, that's our sixth drummer fired.
I got another one lined up, it looks like, but I don't know if I care anymore...
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a good drummer is hard to find
any way. me fooling around with my Cry Baby
http://media.putfile.com/Star-Spangled-Banner-10 (http://media.putfile.com/Star-Spangled-Banner-10)
or
here (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5712181122865607786)
theres some noise because my bro was playing Kingdom Hearts
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Here's the line-up, released for Sunrise Celebration (http://www.sunrisecelebration.com), we're 4th on, on the Monday, I can't believe it:
(http://www.sunrisecelebration.com/images/sunrisestage.jpg)
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alrighty, this was my bands set up today.
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c182/CrapBag12/100_5821.jpg)
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c182/CrapBag12/100_5822.jpg)
(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c182/CrapBag12/100_5823.jpg)
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(http://www.dead-rockstar.co.uk/images/peelprac/4.jpg)
Ah the memories... this was when we practiced at PEEL Studioes, Kingston.
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Haha, looked at those recently. It's odd how they don't look like you anymore...
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Had band practice today for the first time in two weeks.
We we're "off" to say the least...
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By the way, my band finally has a myspace account.
http://www.myspace.com/steelbattalion (http://www.myspace.com/steelbattalion)
Because of a severe lack of proper recording equipment currently, the only songs are kind of little teasers.
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Peel Studios. Nice.
Rob: Nice stuff so far, although they are, as you said, just teasers and not full songs.
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I head off for my first festival gig as an artist this weekend. (That is, after I see the Foos in Hyde Park first) 3 days in Somerset, playing on the main stage of the Sunrise Celebration, should be a good few thousand people watching us. We're apparently going to play some of the lesser stages (as an impromtu set), if we can.
I'll post pics when I return.
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My band broke up, but we get a new drummer July 1, and the original drummer might come back on guitars, and we might have a doom metal project going on.
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buuuump
Hey, come check out the demo for my band's newest song, "The Emo Blues" on our myspace:
http://www.myspace.com/steelbattalion (http://www.myspace.com/steelbattalion)
It was actually co-written by me and Pitt Clemens. The file is only a rough demo, with just me on guitar and vocals, but the final version will have piano, bass, drums, and slide guitar.
Also on the site is a short little video of my band jamming on "Come Together" by the Beatles at a practice session last week. Not the best quality, but you get to see the band perform...
Please leave comments and tell us what you think. :)
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Posted to fix thread.
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Oh, yeah, baby. You know what I like.
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I wrote a song called the Emo Blues last october. I sent it to Rob in like December or January, and he says thats not where he got the name from
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1. I still don't remember ever hearing a song called "Emo Blues" that you wrote until after I sent you mine and Ben's.
2. After listening to it when you sent me it after, I realize our's better anyway. :p
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Hello, Law suit.
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I've got four gigs in quick succession coming up.
The Murderhouse are playing C18 in York, and I'm also playing drums for one of the support bands. Yeesh, two sets in one night, it's gonna be sweaty!
Then Bloody Marys are playing two more festivals in as many days, Hardraw Bash (at Hardraw Force, England's highest waterfall) on the 15th, then Thornborough Festival in Harrogate on the 16th.
Fun fun fun.
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Here's something I'd never expect to be posting, as I'd forgot that we'd recorded them.
Red:Shift's final three ever tracks, before we decided to call it a day. Finally mixed and ready for the world. Too bad the band isn't going anymore, we were good:
Nyet (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/music/redshift/nyet.mp3)
One Night Only (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/music/redshift/onenightonly.mp3)
Same Old Story (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/music/redshift/sameoldstory.mp3)
Comments welcome.
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Comments are welcome as well (http://media.putfile.com/a-song-by-kyle)
Yeah, I suck.
My fenders in the shop, so I had to record it with my Epi
@Melll- I would love to hear your stuff (Im sure its great) but my computer is being slow as balls
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Dammit, don't you hate it when you schedule a practice and one of your members doesn't fucking show up?
Same was the case with me today. I tried calling my guitarist, Brian, for 2 hours this morning, only to have him call back mid-way through practice to say that his girlfriend dropped by and he was otherwise...occupied. And then, after telling him to get his ass over, him saying that his girlfriend wants to go out for lunch and he can't make it.
Thus, an entire day of practice was cancelled with only weeks until a gig and a session at a booked recording studio... :mad:
Dare I say that I uttered many comparisons to a certain Yoko Ono after I got off the phone...
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You've just described about every practice I've ever had.
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
Here's something I'd never expect to be posting, as I'd forgot that we'd recorded them.
Red:Shift's final three ever tracks, before we decided to call it a day. Finally mixed and ready for the world. Too bad the band isn't going anymore, we were good:
Nyet (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/music/redshift/nyet.mp3)
One Night Only (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/music/redshift/onenightonly.mp3)
Same Old Story (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/music/redshift/sameoldstory.mp3)
Comments welcome.
http://www.myspace.com/redshiftyorkuk (http://www.myspace.com/redshiftyorkuk)
The posthumous Red:Shift myspace is there and the three tracks are up, if people can't be bothered to download them. :)
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Me and Pitt wrote another song yesterday.
Continuing our tongue-in-cheek theme from "Emo Blues", our new one is called "Why Are the Cute One's Always Lesbians?". Expect a demo soon.
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That's to long of a song title.
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No it's not. The longer the title, the better. In my opinion.
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No.
Look at Dark Side of The Moon, the best rock album of all time.
They have Breathe, Time, Eclipse, Money. Mostly short titles except Great gig in the sky.
No song title should go over 3 words.
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Well, look at Red:Shift's song titles, never over 3 words. But, I don't think it's a hard-and-fast rule.
Some great long song titles:
"I wish I was queer so I could get chicks"
(Bloodhound Gang)
"El Phantasmo And The Chicken Run Blast-O-Rama"
(White Zombie)
Can't argue with those.
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Well Im gonna try to ignore that you just posted a song by the fucking Bloodhoud Gang.
White Zombie is great.
The only really long and good song title I can think of is "Bloody Screams of Despir that Stain The Ice" by 3IOB.
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God you're boring, CrapBag...
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"We threw gasoline on the fire and now we have stumps for arms and no eyebrows" - NOFX, Punk-O-Rama III.
@Nasty: Yes I do hate that. Immensely. Stupid hangovers. Be glad you're under 21 for the while.
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Originally posted by CrapBag:
No song title should go over 3 words.
Pfft. That's a stupid opinion. Fluorescent Grey would take high-offence to that! :mad:
I'm a musician.
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Originally posted by CrapBag:
That's to long of a song title.
You're a fucking moron.
Examples to call your idiotic opinion into question:
"Not A Happy Meal For The 13 Year Old Girl Who Found Razor Blades In Her French Fries"
"My Inner Self Is Telling Me That Something In This Room Is At Its Unintelligent High Point"
"Letter Bomb to Real Estate Company Is Less Sign Distribution, But More Economic Value For Me"
"The Only Time I Think About Romance Is When I Wonder Why I Don't Think About It"
"Let's Start Another War So I Can Sing About Stopping It"
"Jean Claude Bland Dan In A Steel Cage Match With Mean Steve Seagal For The Title Of Crowned King Of Hilfiger Apparel: WWF Style"
"Plastic Grandma Cackling At The Frozen Lemonade Fishbowl, Baby"
"Billy Pepper's Fist In The Glass Eye of Jake Phelps"
And that's only off three CDs I'm looking at here. I'm sure I could find more if I put a little effort into it.
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Why did you just name 8 songs?
By naming 8 songs you think you will make me realize that I'm wrong?
You're a fucking moron.
Show me where in my posts I said that there are no songs that go over 3 words? I know there are some long ass titles for emo songs, but in the world of rock 'n roll, there arent many.
@Ribbons- I'm a musician too.
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Originally posted by CrapBag:
Show me where in my posts I said that there are no songs that go over 3 words? I know there are some long ass titles for emo songs, but in the world of rock 'n roll, there arent many.
@Ribbons- I'm a musician too.
"Everybody's Got Something To Hide Except for Me and My Monkey"
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
Well, look at Red:Shift's song titles, never over 3 words. But, I don't think it's a hard-and-fast rule.
Some great long song titles:
"I wish I was queer so I could get chicks"
(Bloodhound Gang)
"El Phantasmo And The Chicken Run Blast-O-Rama"
(White Zombie)
Can't argue with those.
But, naturally, Bloodhound Gang's best long song title is "A lapdance is so much better when the stripper is crying."
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Originally posted by CrapBag:
Why did you just name 8 songs?
By naming 8 songs you think you will make me realize that I'm wrong?
You're a fucking moron.
You said "That's too long of a song title"
I was showing you there are awesome song titles that are long.
I would seriously pay you to not have opinions anymore.
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"Yoshimi battles the pink robots, Part one"
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"Let's Start Another War So I Can Sing About Stopping It"
:laff: Who's that by? Fucking genius.
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*bump*
The Murderhouses proper demo recordings, looky!
What Lovers Do (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/music/murderhouse/Lovers.mp3)
So Cold (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/music/murderhouse/Cold.mp3)
These Roads (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/music/murderhouse/Roads.mp3)
Comments welcome.
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So, in order to sooth his ever-wanting need for new musical input and to broaden his horizons, the keyboardist in my band is going to buy his new instrument of choice: an Acoustic-Electric Mandolin. (He's a big John Paul Jones fan)
We're gonna see if we can add it to our set for the gig next Saturday.
Should be interesting...
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
*bump*
The Murderhouses proper demo recordings, looky!
What Lovers Do (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/music/murderhouse/Lovers.mp3)
So Cold (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/music/murderhouse/Cold.mp3)
These Roads (http://www.melllvar.co.uk/music/murderhouse/Roads.mp3)
Comments welcome.
They are all really good. I like it
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Boo yeah:
(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7034/3151pn0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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That guitar looks like the acoustic that Alex Lifeson used to use in Rush.
*Finds a pic* (http://www.2112.net/powerwindows/wallpaper/HYFtouralex.jpg)
Sweet!
Jules, thanks for comment. Suzy's voice is awesome, if I say so myself. She continues to blow me away with her singing.
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Melll, yeah that's an Ovation. Hugely popular acoustics over here in the states. Not particularily my favorite though...
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I've got me an Ovation (celebrity, I think), and it's a good guitar (even sounding good with a cutaway). Of course, I can't argue; I got it for free. It's my banged up guitar for bringing around and using for demos and whatnot.
*first post in a billion years dance, if that even exists*
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A rant: My Korg Triton is currently sitting in the States and I'm many miles away - I bought a flightcase to take it back with me, and the combined weight of keyboard and flightcase was more than the baggage handlers in Britain (not the States...they'll take it. It's just us puny Brits who put up the fuss) would carry. So I could either store it in the US with my other stuff for free or pay the obscene amount to ship it... :(
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Originally posted by Local Jerseyan:
I've got me an Ovation (celebrity, I think), and it's a good guitar (even sounding good with a cutaway). Of course, I can't argue; I got it for free. It's my banged up guitar for bringing around and using for demos and whatnot.
*first post in a billion years dance, if that even exists*
Alyssa!
*huggles*
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Hehe... your powers of persuasion got me to come back, Rob.
*huggles*
Now, to strike. Or something.
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
Alyssa!
*huggles*
You're a fucking faggot.
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Aren't you the one that said that there should be no women on Earth in the Relationship thread?
Faggot indeed...
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Forget it.
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Thank you.
Anyway, my band hopes to record a demo sometime soon, too. I gotta get to checking out the demos posted here. I'll post mine here too when it's ready.
Huzzah for eight track machines.
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How much does studio-time cost over there?
We did those Murderhouse tracks (links in Jules' post at the TOTP) in a day, 3 tracks, recorded, mixed and mastered. All for Ģ220ish.
Next week, I'm recording with another band (yes, I'll keep bloody posting the links :p) and that session is Ģ150.
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Hmmm... I really can't say. My high school band teacher's offering us a deal, $100 a day. I'm none too sure what other studios offer, though.
We're actually doing this demo on our 8-track machine for now, and then we'll take it to the studio for a better recording once we've got more material.
How much do those amounts transfer to in yank money, anyway?
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Around $1.75 for Ģ1, something like that. $100 a day is pretty damn good rate, if you get an engineer thrown in.
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It's about $400. Ģ200 odd for a full day with an engineer sounds about right, and counting for inflation it's certainly around what I paid the last time I was in a studio in the UK (which was, like, 7 years ago. I use my uni's gear now).
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http://www.cadmanlane.co.uk/ (http://www.cadmanlane.co.uk/)
This is the studio we recorded at this week.
http://www.pighutstudios.co.uk/ (http://www.pighutstudios.co.uk/)
This is where we are next week. It's all fun.
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I had a session in Christ Church Studios once, which is now owned by a theatre, but used to be where Massive Attack recorded. Interesting history of the place, it's an ex BBC drama studio. This was back in the days when most studios still used tape (aw, how I miss it)...
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Band's finally playing a show this Saturday and I can't wait for it.
We will also feature our good friend and songwriting collaborator, Pitt Clemens on Bass and Lap Steel Guitar.
We got an all-day of practicing tomorrow, putting the cap on a week of practices every day starting at 10am, so I finally see a light at the end of this tunnel...
Then, in early August, we have the recording sessions for "Emo Blues", "Lorelei", and "Why are the cute ones always Lesbians?", and a photoshoot for promo pictures.
And then, to top it all off, a filming for of an Emo Blues music video for podcasting up at Rowen and Rutgers Universities during the fall and winter.
God I'm going to be so freaking tired...
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My first ever recording session was at the end of a 12-hour nightshift, I had to go into the studio, lay down drumtracks, then go home get some food and go back to work for another 12 hour nightshift. All-in-all I was up for something like 60 hours.
When we recorded "The Big Nowhere" with Red:Shift, I did almost the same, 12-hour nightshift, full day in the studio, then played a gig supporting British Sea Power.
Tired? Get used to it. ;)
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Oh shut up old man. ;)
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:laff:
Then there's the time we did the 7 hour drive to Brighton, slept on the floor of someone's attic, played arguably one of the best gigs we ever played, drove 7 hours back to York, and played again in a Battle Of The Bands.
Basically, I've always been prepared to burn the candle at both ends for my bands. You only live once, right? ;)
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Nasty Pasty, that's a cool guitar you posted there.
I'm a musician myself, and I can play nearly anything except brass and orchestra strings. Not sure what other names are for this description. I mostly love playing hard and classic rock genres because it's what I gerw up listening to. Van Halen is something I've been listening to a lot because their guitar playings have been awesome, especially in "You Really Got Me." It just knocks me off my chair. What do you guys think of this song?
Van Halen - You Really Got Me http://www.napster.com/player/tracks/13552264 (http://www.napster.com/player/tracks/13552264)
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Are you a robot?
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Heidiho, the picture I posted isnt a guitar, it's mandolin.
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i play the drums. ive been playin for about 3 years, my guitarist is kinda bein an ass because he thinks its his band and he started it, etc.
im probably goin to quit so im open for a band if anybody needs a drummer. all i do now is jam.
my guitarist is also an ass because he wants us to do a gig that he set up on his own and we didnt know about now where goin to play it but i dont want to neithher does our bassist.
so what im askin mell is how can i tell him that i dont want to do it, how can i let him down easy??????
SEND BACK MELL!
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Get together with your bass player and tell your guitarist he's fired.
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Guitar is the easiest to replace, since every tom dick and Harry plays guitar these days.
I have learned that the drummer is the most valuable, and the hardest to replace. Alot of the time, a guitarest will pick up a bass, just to join a band, cause they think it's "easy."
What I'm saying, is kick the guitarest out, you can find another one easily.
You are the most valuable piece in a band, use your power.
edit. Hey! I live in PA too. But I have a Kick ass drummer. And he's a good friend, so no luck there.
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Drummer, hardest to replace? No way.
Bassists are few and far between, that's why my father always urged me to play bass before guitar so I will be picked up by a bamd much easier
And it's not very easy to just switch from guitar to bass (I can testify this personally). Bass is a whole different kind of monster, much more subtle and working in conjunction with the drums and not the melody.
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Depends where you live, Rob. Drummers are thin on the ground around here. That's why I'm in five bands.
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There is no place in the universe where a bassist is harder to find than a drummer.
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Maybe so, but is there a place in the universe where a GOOD bassist is harder to find than a drummer? Any schmuck can play bass...you don't have to learn chords and you can just play root notes and get away with it. But how many bands out there have creative bassists who will actually give out some kind of stage presence? The thing about drummers...that's a lot of equipment to lug around. Not an easy instrument to store. I'd imagine living on your own, unless you've got your own house(in which case you probably aren't pursuing some kind of rock star life), then it wouldn't be easy to find time to practice.
All I know is, I play all three but consider myself a guitarist first.
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Dude, we're always having trouble finding us a drummer in my band. (Thanks again for offering us a chance with your drummer, Rob!) It's hard with bassists too, since everyone wants to be the guitarist, I've found. But things are definitely harder with drummers.
Or I'm just bitter because all of them around here just want to play "mad hardk0r3" and not "punk with more than three chords that's still badass anyway".
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Mango II!
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So, the gig on Saturday went really well.
We played 3 sets plus a bunch of encores and had alot of fun.
It was our first chance to break out some of our brand new originals on some people, and overall, they were really well received. And, as mentioned before, the show signalled the debut of Mr Pitt Clemens on Lap Steel Guitar, and Bass as he played on the songs he co-wrote with me and joined us on some of our old standards and covers.
We did have a problem in the middle of the second set, when the P.A. system went on the fritz and had to be exchanged with our spare, and unfortunately, my voice was not as strong as it usually is (thanks to the week of constant strain from practices), but overall, the show was a great experience, and definitely the best we've ever played.
It provided us with a great stepping stone for the recording sessions later this month and I think we'll be in top form for it.
Here's our setlist and some pictures:
London Calling, The Clash
Hitchin A Ride, Green Day
Lorelei (Original)
She Will Be Loved, Maroon 5
Under the Bridge, Red Hot Chile Peppers
Feel Good Inc, The Gorillaz
I Wanna Be Sedated, The Ramones
Heroes and Villains, The Beach Boys
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On The Line (Original)
Tears in Heaven, Eric Clapton
Nintendo Themes Medley (Original)
Tribute - Fuck Her Gently Medley, Tenacious D
Hotel Yorba - Little Ghost Medley, The White Stripes
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Future Guy (Original)
Denial Twist, The White Stripes
Why Are the Cute Ones Always Lesbians? (Original)
Turn A Square, The Shins
The EMO Blues (Original)
I Am The Walrus, The Beatles
Come Together, The Beatles
Kashmir, Led Zeppelin
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Twist and Shout, The Isley Brothers
All My Love, Led Zeppelin
Layla, Derek and the Dominos
Scott Stapp Sex Tape (Original)
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/qe286/Gig/BAND1.jpg)
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/qe286/Gig/BAND2.jpg)
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/qe286/Gig/BAND3.jpg)
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/qe286/Gig/BAND4.jpg)
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Damn you Nasty.... I wanted to hear Cap'n Skusting own all of you on guitar..... I think you were all chicken... <bwrk, bwrk>
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Maroon 5? Come on, could you get any more lame? Diversify and pick some decent covers.
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@ melllvar... maybe Maroon 6?
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Hahahaha, "Scott Stapp Sex Tape". That's awesome.
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Pfft, I wanna see more stuff that rocks. Led Zep, The Beatles (ok, I hate the Beatles but can see why they're in there), some Green Day and Chili Peppers (Under The Bridge? Anthony Kiedis' love song to Heroin, good choice! :p You should play "Breaking The Girl" instead, less obvious). Maroon 5 strikes high on the lame-o-meter, and for someone who's into classic rock, there's a severe lack of Floyd. ;)
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@Melll: The M5 cover was not my idea, my drummer likes them, and we all choose what songs we played for this show... :hmpf:
And as for Floyd......meh. :p
@Lamp: Ah yes...."Scott Stapp".
You can thank Pitt for that one...
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So, if I was in your band, you'd consider covers I'd want?
Floyd, meh? Bah, philistine! :p ;)
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My drummer wants to do some Slipknot. I don't like them, but I have an open mind for new songs.
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Well my other guitarist doesn't answer his phone, so we can't get together for another practice before we play the pig roast on the 5th. We got all the songs down, I just wanna work on the timing.
Theres a little problem. I started this band with my 4 best friends. We were friends before the band so its not like we all joined and then became friends. But as it's getting more serious, I'm thinking of ditching the backup guitar(Mike), and the vocalist(Stock). Honestly, Mike just sits around during practices. And Stock doesnt learn any of the songs I give him. But Mike is bestfriends with my Bassist, Shae (who fucking kicks ass, learns all of the songs I give him by the next practice, even if he never heard it before.) If Mike gets kicked out, then I think Shae will leave too.
-Line up for the Pig Roast-
Now chances are I'm gonna be singing all of these since my Vocalist (gonna get kicked out) doesn't learn shit I tell him, and I will be playing lead guitar on all of them
Jimi Hendrix- Purple Haze
Iron Maiden- The Trooper*(*I hope we do this one)
Jet- Are You Gonna Be My Girl
Led Zeppelin- Whole Lotta Love
The Ramones- Bonzo Goes To Bitburg
Cream- Sunshine of Your Love
I also been learning "99 Red Balloons", Goldfinger version, but I doubt we can throw that in in time.
I wrote a song called "Fred", which is slightly moving toward the more "Alternative" side or rock.
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Ah yes...this dilema.
Happened to be quite a few times. It's very difficult to kick someone out of a band despite him being your best friend...
Really, what you have to do is speak to the other members of your band before making any decisions. See what their thoughts are on the situation, and if they feel the same way as you, it'll be easier to distance yourself from Mike without pissing off Shae (he might even feel the same way you do if he's serious about the band)
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Originally posted by CrapBag:
My drummer wants to do some Slipknot. I don't like them, but I have an open mind for new songs.
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Well my other guitarist doesn't answer his phone, so we can't get together for another practice before we play the pig roast on the 5th. We got all the songs down, I just wanna work on the timing.
Theres a little problem. I started this band with my 4 best friends. We were friends before the band so its not like we all joined and then became friends. But as it's getting more serious, I'm thinking of ditching the backup guitar(Mike), and the vocalist(Stock). Honestly, Mike just sits around during practices. And Stock doesnt learn any of the songs I give him. But Mike is bestfriends with my Bassist, Shae (who fucking kicks ass, learns all of the songs I give him by the next practice, even if he never heard it before.) If Mike gets kicked out, then I think Shae will leave too.
-Line up for the Pig Roast-
Now chances are I'm gonna be singing all of these since my Vocalist (gonna get kicked out) doesn't learn shit I tell him, and I will be playing lead guitar on all of them
Well, I think I see what may be happening here. Firstly, you say that "you're telling them" to learn stuff? Well, my bands are all autonomous collectives, and each of us has a veto for any stuff we wanna play, and we all contribute to the writing and arrangement process.
Maybe you'll get more out of them if you involve them in the decision process more. Treating them like "your backing band" is not the way forward, really.
Just a suggestion, and correct me if I'm wrong.
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Starting bands at 15 is such a bad idea.
Just my experience of course. Your mileage may vary.
Tabs are the devil. :)
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Originally posted by Archie2K:
Starting bands at 15 is such a bad idea.
That too. My fragile ego couldn't cope with it at that age.
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I was in a band when I was 14. We had no drummer and we made a demo tape. The guitarist thought all our songs sucked. He liked the lyrics I hated and hated the lyrics I liked(I was the vocalist too so this wasn't exactly something I wanted to deal with). The guitarist and bassist were brothers and fought like such.
We were doomed.
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Sweeeeeeeeet...
Got a message today on Myspace from a promoter of "Lower East Side Productions", an organization that operates half a dozen rock clubs in lower Manhattan.
Apparently she stumbled across my band's website and heard some people raving about our show last Saturday and wants to book us for one or more dates in late August at a place called the 169 Club. Only get 20% of the ticket sales, but still...pretty cool...
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Originally posted by Archie2K:
Tabs are the devil. :)
They're also the... angel, I guess. But they can be a source of great deception and you'll go bald in no time if you end up with a collection of horrible tabs. I should really learn to read proper sheet music. If only to get the artist-approved official versions of the songbooks. I'm sick of looking at ten vastly different tabs for the same version of the same song, all claiming to be "100% accurate".
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My bassist has found us a new singer. He usually thinks everyone sucks at everything, but he says this new kid is really good. Im supposed to check him out today.
Also for my 2nd project I have recruited a keyboardist. Finally.
Oh, and possibly a singer.
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Well, my band's first NYC show was great. Was at the 169 Bar on East Broadway in lower Manhattan, a candlelit divebar with a great atmosphere.
So, we headlined a bill of 4 solo artists and played for a short half hour, premering a bunch of our new originals and throwing in two covers as well:
SETLIST:
"Why are the cute ones always Lesbians?"
"Come Together", The Beatles
"The EMO Blues"
"Lorelei"
"My Muse"
"Connecticut Woman"
"Kashmir", Led Zeppelin
The best reactions definitely came from "Lesbians" and "CT Woman" at the end, which were the highlights of the entire night. The first was a stark contrast to the other, acoustic performers on the bill and woke alot of people up. On the latter, it degenrated to a complete improvisation by me and Pitt Clemens, doing a guitar-vocal duel ala' Page and Plant.
Overall, it was a great gig, but because of the weather and being on a Sunday night, alot of the people who were coming dropped out, but among those who did come was our good friend and vocalist from Lez Zeppelin, Sarah Mclellan, and PEEL's own Local Jerseyan (Mango II).
Here are some pics snapped from the show by my Bender_Waffles:
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/qe286/Gig/BAND7.jpg)
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/qe286/Gig/BAND6.jpg)
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/qe286/Gig/BAND4-1.jpg)
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/qe286/Gig/BAND8.jpg)
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b306/qe286/Gig/BAND3-1.jpg)
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I wish your drummer would get some cymbals.
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Yeah, he had a another crash but he broke it...
Guess what we're doing with the money earned?!
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buying hookers and booze?
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Precisely.
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Fuck, double post... :mad:
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So, tonight I have the first rehearsal with my new musical project.
With Steel Battalion on hiatus til January, I have been drafted to play lead guitar in a new trio, called Adament Eve, which also includes Battalion's drummer, Jesse and a friend of mine, Suny on bass and vocals.
The music is much darker and depressing when compared to Battalion's but it's really damn good. Suny has a great voice too. She's like if Amy Lee from Evanessence didn't suck.
So, hopefully, this new project will keep me busy until the band reforms for January break, when we will do recordings and play a bunch of shows...
PS: In the meantime, everyone, check out Steel Battalion's video section on the myspace page...
www.myspace.com/steelbattalion (http://www.myspace.com/steelbattalion)
We uploaded the first half of our NYC Debut concert for all to see, and the second half will be up early next week.
Check it out and drop us a comment. :)
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So, I just landed us a recording session for Steel Battalion in January at the end of our fall hiatus.
I recieved a message on myspace from a popular NY band I'm a big fan of, "To The Moon", saying that they listened to our stuff and really dug it, and expressed their interest in recording us. They have a huge home studio, with all professional equipment. This could even be a nice launching pad for us to get signed by the band's record label, L-Cast Records and get some major exposure on the Indie circuit.
Keep your fingers crossed...
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Rock on Pasty and Pitt, I wish you guys well and hope you get on that label.
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CONFIRMED!
Formaldehyde Blues Train reunion.
Saturday, December 9.
Liberty Heights Tap Room
Red Hook, Brooklyn.
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty:
So, I just landed us a recording session for Steel Battalion in January at the end of our fall hiatus.
I recieved a message on myspace from a popular NY band I'm a big fan of, "To The Moon", saying that they listened to our stuff and really dug it, and expressed their interest in recording us. They have a huge home studio, with all professional equipment. This could even be a nice launching pad for us to get signed by the band's record label, L-Cast Records and get some major exposure on the Indie circuit.
Keep your fingers crossed...
Good luck dude!
We had an A&R bloke from Parlaphone snooping on Murderhouses myspace. We sent him a demo.
I'm still hoping for that NY/NJ (or both) gig dude. MH wanna come over.
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Thanks alot mate.
Yeah, we're psyched about the recordings. Basically, up until January is our time to clean up some of the rough parts and work on expanding our library of original material.
As of now, we have about 10 completed originals we're going to bring to the sessions, although we only expect to complete the recordings on about 5 or 6.
The songs we've got to record...
-'Why are the cute ones always Lesbians?'
-'Think Ya Know?'
-'Up the Down Escalator'
-'The Emo Blues'
-'Lorelei'
-'My Muse'
-'Carpile'
-'Lei'd in Hawaii'
-'Connecticut Woman'
We're also probably going to get booked to play the famous Sin-E rock club down on the Lower East Side in early January when you and the Aussies are going to be visiting.
As for Murderhouse, fuck yeah brother! Come over and we'll try and hook something up next summer!
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That brings up a question, how does the local music scene work where you are? Or in NYC?
Do you have pay-to-play? Or do promoters have more faith in the artists to draw a crowd? Do they promote you properly, even?
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Melll -It's been a while since I've had any dealings with the NYC music scene, but I'm sure you don't have to "pay to play"
Your pay is likely something you'd work out with the venue.
They may pay you a flat rate, they may pay you the door. Just about anything can be worked out.
Any club will promote themselves and at least list who's playing there. It would be up to you to do any of your own further promotions.
With the background your band has, and with what you have to show for yourselves, (existing cds and web site) I don't think it would be too hard for you guys to get a some decent gigs here in the city.
Also, inquire about what equipment you need to bring.
Most clubs have PAs and many have house equipment to play on.
For some sage advice you should contact me freind Sal for some pretty good and honest info in the NY club/music scene.
Tell him Deek sent ya!
Sal at MySpace (http://www.myspace.com/cataldisspaghettieasternmusic)
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Maybe you'll get more out of them if you involve them in the decision process more. Treating them like "your backing band" is not the way forward, really.
I know this wasn't involving me but it really caught my attention. I have been in bands from the age of 13 [I'm 21 now] and some bands/people need to just be told what to do, they don't function as a working part of the band. I have been on both sides of the power [being a leader and follower] with out being told what to do they will take that as they shouldn't do anything. The current band I'm in I have ALL the power, 100% writers credit for every instrument and that's how it has to be done, we try writing as a group and NOTHING happens. I'm not saying you are wrong but ever band is VERY different.
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I find that in my band, I do try and take a leadership position at times mainly to steer the band on course in terms of practices, recordings, etc, but in the day to day management of the group, I feel that my opinion should carry as much weight as anyone else in the group. If I come up with an idea, and the majority of the group hates it, we disgard it. Same goes for any other member.
Does that mean that we should all constantly work and collaborate together? Fuck no! Our musical backgrounds and tastes would clash alot on some songs. But to just be a complete autocratic dictator in the writing process is just wrong, especially since my other bandmates have their own songs and shit they work on. And when we come together to practice as a group, we all present our songs and we work out the final arrangement together. That way, the various parts are geared towards their personal styles and the final product is very dynamic and unlike other songs people have heard.
Not to mention, if you make yourself out to be the de facto leader, they're going to start to hate your fucking guts, dude.
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You must not have read my last sentence. That may work for your band but as for the people I am currently with they just want to know what they should play and not have to deal with anything thing else then just playing what is there. I would give them the choice of what to do with songs if they wanted it, no problem but it's just not how it's done. They have the chance to change the bassline or whatever, I wouldn't say "hey that's wrong". They have there own songs that they don't want this band playing unlike your band where everybody wants to play their ideas. But like I said before, this shows how different bands function so unless you are in my band you can't say it's wrong and not helpful for the music just as I wouldn't critisize your band for haveing no leadership.
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Did I say that I was saying your leadership style was wrong?
No.
I was simply describing my band's hiearchy in comparison to yours.
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Sorry, I took
if you make yourself out to be the de facto leader, they're going to start to hate your fucking guts, dude.
as an insult to the position I have taken in my band. In which that quote so far has not happened in this band, yes it could/did happen in band but I was neither the hater nor the leader.
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Every band I've been in has maintained a certain level of autonomy, even Bloody Marys, where Ryan writes all of the songs, we still get to chime in on arrangement, and management.
I don't think I could take being completelt told what to do, I think if that happened, then the guy would get a drumstick shoved up his ass.
@Capn: Very very interesting. It doesn't work like that over here, a lot of so-called "promoters" are out to ream the bands out of as much money as they can get. For instance, we (being The Bloody Marys) arranged to play a venue in Leeds, Josephs Well, however the arrangement with the promoter whereby we'd "buy" tickets up-front for the gig we played, and sell them on ourselves. Also this was a HMV Showcase gig, so we had to hand over 20 CDs for him to arrange to have sold in HMV in Leeds.
We paid Ģ90 for the tickets, sold as many as we could, made Ģ3 profit, and handed over 20 Cds for nothing. They never turned up in HMV.
Nowadays, we stay away from pay-to-play as much as we can, some venues ask that you be able to bring a minimum of, say, 20 people, some in London say 50 people. It's a vicious cycle, how are you meant to get known if you can't play the gigs to attract the people in the first place.
My idea for playing in NYC, such as it is, would be to play with a local band, for instance, Steel Battalion (Nasty's Band) and borrow the equipment we need. Murderhouse is very minimal anyways, bass, acoustic guitar and drums, that's it. Also, arranging as many gigs as possible for the time we're over would be cool too.
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Woo, My band had its first Jam today. It was fun, just making around with random chords and making stuff up as we went along. We've got a cool asortment of people. Drums, 2 guitars and a Viola. Makes for some intersting sounds. Also had a go at the drums and realise my co-ordination sucks. We'll be jamming again soon, it was much fun!
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Mell - hope to see you gigging in New York!
In the meantime..
a taste of Formaldehyde Blues Train
VooDoo Nectarine (http://www1.eboard.com/boards/17/31/59/SkustingsFlagEmporium/att-1347880/VoodooNectarine.mp3)
Grizzly Dick (http://www1.eboard.com/boards/17/31/59/SkustingsFlagEmporium/att-1333804/Grizzly.mp3)
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so um hey guys... i want to play in our school's 'coffehouse' but as i play the bass nd have no kinships with any other musicians in my school pretty much, i'm not sure who to play with. i'm thinking of just hanging at the sign-up meeting looking for bands with bass needs, but if that doesn't work i'mnot sure what to do, and i'm too shy to ask people i don't know. i do have a friend who plays just a little guitar, but still we'd need more people. any ideas guys...?
oh, and if you play in NY melll, feel free to announce when and if you need some attendees...
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I'll do it. :p
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Originally posted by Futurama_Hil:
oh, and if you play in NY melll, feel free to announce when and if you need some attendees...
I think this will be a co-ordinated effort, so I can pretty much guarentee that you'll know about it.
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Hey Cappy, I sent a message to your buddy.
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Sorry for the bump people!
Played violin for 9 years now, can play keyboard/some piano, some drums (not v much), same goes for guitar.Thankyou and goodnight :)
Would like to learn to play the boobams though ;)
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
Hey Cappy, I sent a message to your buddy.
Good deal. He'll steer ya right!
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I got a reply, and a list of venues, mostly in Brooklyn. Cooooool!
Meanwhile, wanna hear new Bloody Marys stuff? I'm talking hot off the presses, not even finished stuff?
Here you go! (http://www.ryanshirlow.com/files/test06/whiteroomsMP3.mp3)
It's one track, but actually three songs:
"Sunny Day, Urban Decay"
"Call Out Gouranga (..And I'll Smack You In The Fucking Head)"
"Show Me Heaven" (a cover of the Maria McKee classic).
If you listen carefully you can hear me speaking in between tracks. Also, I biff-it on the initial intro to "Gauranga", that's me laughing.