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Off Topic => Offtopic Discussion => Topic started by: Loki on 03-21-2003 13:41
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we already have a lot of music threads so... why not to have a new one?
We have a thread about music, but simply band names tell me nothing. Maybe it will be interesting to know what music do PEELers listen to?
So I want to suggest a thread where one could tell about his favorite band and show some short parts of songs. Kind of music review.
But I don’t want to start a thread that will be not interesting for others, so what do you think of it?
If this idea gets support we will proceed with reviews right in this thread :p
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One of the things which is sometimes discussed, is the expansion on the Music Listening Thread rather than just posting band names and songs. However, any attempt to do this, either lasts three posts, or falls flat on it's face.
There are music threads and variants thereof, but any expansion on the discussion is a good thing.
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I listen to anything that isn't "FOAD"-gagsta rap or "I'm fuckin' wicked"-townie garage shite.
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heh-he, a good start, unfortunately I'm already in my pajamas, so I'll post some of stuff tomorrow.
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A quick glance at my mp3 folder reveals that I listen to just about anything. Classical music... Sepultura... Spice girls... Zappa... Geinoh Yamashirogumi... Limp bizkit... Blur... Van Morrison... various operas... Missy Elliott... The list goes on!
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A quick glance at my mp3 folder reveals that I listen to just about anything. Classical music... Sepultura... Spice girls... Zappa... Geinoh Yamashirogumi... Limp bizkit... Blur... Van Morrison... various operas... Missy Elliott... The list goes on!
Actually I meant to post some mp3s of your favorite bands ;) and tell us about them.
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But that would be illegal file sharing, brought to you by peelified.com!
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Ah, a thread about what's "behind a song" ...
Good idea, Loki. :)
"Mrs. Brown you've got a lovely daughter" from Peter Noone and the Herman's Hermits
A great band from the 1960s. Peter Noone is the Herman in Herman's Hermits.
The band was: Peter "Herman" Blair Denis Bernard Noone (vocal, piano and rhythm guitar), Keith Hopwood (rhythm guitar), Karl Anthony Green (bass guitar and harmonica), Jan Barry "Bean" Whitwam (drums) and Derek "Lek" Leckenby (lead guitar).
They've recorded a lot of very popular songs like "Mrs. Brown you've got a lovely daughter", "Bus Stop", "There's a kind of Hush", "I'm Henry the VIII", "The end of the World", etc ... Also some movies like "Hold On!" and "Mrs. Brown you've got a lovely daughter".
In the USA this Manchester band was more popular than the Beatles.
If you wish to visits the band's homepage, go here: http://www.hermanshermits.com (http://www.hermanshermits.com) and here: http://www.peternoone.com (http://www.peternoone.com)
Btw: While you're on the Herman's Hermits site, just click on that jukebox-picture and listen to some beautiful, nice music. :)
(http://members.aol.com/bocad/hhholdonphoto.jpg)
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Winamp has a nice function of making a html playlist, maybe we should all throw them up in here? In small text if you don't have webspace! Or someone can host 'em.
Here's mine. (http://randomblob.netfirms.com/playlist.htm)
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You mean like this?
Here's one I did a couple of years ago.
Solefald - Neonism
Review by Zero Tolerance
Release: 1999
Rating: 5/6
Record Label: Avantgarde Music - Cataloguenumber: AVO 38
Total Playingtime - 50:16
Track List
Fluorescent (The Total Orchestra)
Speed Increased To Scaffold
CK II Chanel No.6
Proprietors Of Red
A Motion Picture
Omnipolis
Backpaka Baba
Third Person Plural
04.34 PM
The New Timelessness
Hmmm, This one is a toughie. What do you get when you mix two demented, sinister, Norwegian dudes, a mind altering drug, lets say....uhhh...Ketamine, Immense creativity and a room full of studio gear? The answer? NEONISM. This album is a mixed bag of about every style and concept in extreme music. I'm not limiting this to metal, although this is a metal album of the highest order. It is, dear readers, so much more. Solefald's musical influences run the gamut from metal, to punk, to early '80's New Wave to, House and Trip-Hop, to just plain excellence.
To pin this band down to one style, is like trying to make a tornado do a figure eight. It's not gonna happen. The album starts out as a barrage of keyboards and blasting beats. You could call this Black Metal. It soon becomes evident that Neonism goes far beyond blast beats and shrieking vocals. Though the metal on this CD is cold, stark and frightening, it could easily be considered Black Metal. Solefald is just too weird to be called anything, but, Solefald.
The vocals in particular, just excel. They range from shrieks, growls and rasps to clean singing and almost mantra-like chanting. The lyrics are frequently repeated, but always in a different vocal style and tempo, making the songs take on a flowing, but unpredictable nature. The guitar work is composed of crushing riffs and twisted leads, offset by the keyboards and the mix of organic and electronic beats. The sarcastic and wonderfully minimalistic lyrics are of a biting and cohesive socio-political nature. But not so serious that they start to get preachy. This is perfect satire.
"White man came across the sea to change my underdevelped diaper.
White man came across to me, to wipe my ass with tabloid paper"
"selling shades on the beach is my daily routine, matching the irony of your western magazines"
The personnel on this disc are made up of a guitarist/bassist and a keyboardist/drummer/programmer. They both do vocals.
There is a lot of noise produced by these two guys. The cover art alone is the first indicator that this is a bizarre album. It must be approached with an open mind. As a matter of fact, I feel you must be slightly insane to truly appreciate the complexities and witticism this album conveys. I fortunately am insane enough to wholeheartedly recommend this band to anyone who wants a truly unique and disturbing foray into what metal has to offer. Standout tracks are "Backpacka Baba" "Third Person Plural" and "Speed Increased To Scaffold" but all tracks are good and hold their own twisted merits. A must hear, if you can handle it. I am actively seeking their first album, entitled "The Linear Scaffold" I will review it after I find it and recover from it's effects.
Line-up:
Cornelius - Rhythmic rhetoric, oxneck and dandyhand strings
Lazare - Firey voices, red keys, acoustic and artificial beats
Addendum:
After having this album for more than two years, I can safely say this is one Class A Mindfuck. I've since found the first album. They have put out a third and are soon to release a fourth. All of them are outstanding.
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TheLesbianLeela. he-he. I have to admit that it is not my kind of music. Though, I have nothing against it either. Hey, they get my respect for their efforts. At least, they make more of efforts than most of modern so-called rock singers. Who are basically children of showbiz machine.
Also, I’m not old enough to remember such groups :p.
(kidding!)
This album is a mixed bag of about every style and concept in extreme music. I'm not limiting this to metal, although this is a metal album of the highest order
*drools* sounds intriguing. I’m not a member of certain group of people who listen to music only because it’s Mindfuck - ‘it’s hell hard metal, so hard, that no one can stand it’. I like metal because I find that there’s specific melody in it under the chaos.
The lyrics are frequently repeated
This is no good news, I really prefer big and story-like lyrics… but after all, it’s not a critical requirement.
Spice Weasel , Oh nice, I never will beat you ;).but my English needs practice so here are few words of mine:
My story began two years ago. Those days, I got a CD with Manowar to listen to.
And when I first heard music of the metal style, it was quite a cacophony for me. But I listened to it little by little, and my view changed.
Few months later, I took Blind Guardian CD and fell in love. From that time and up to now, it’s my favorite band.
They already released 10 full albums, (last was in the year 2002). Many call their music Power Metal. Let it be so, I left genre definition for the professionals, and speak as music-lover only. And as music-lover I can say that spectrum of their music is so wide that I won’t bound it to some certain genre.
Their music is overwhelmed with energy. Sometimes, it is a simple aggressive metal, and sometimes they play epic, almost in classic style music. And sometimes their music has something from ballads.
And it’s overwhelmed with feelings and emotions. Let’s say you cannot stand aside when you are listening to it. It takes you somewhere in the lands of gods, trolls and wizards.
Both music and voice of Hansi Kürsch make me love BG.
And I, of course, have to mention that they have a whole album which they made with orchestra and chorus. That’s their last album “a Night at the Opera”.
Lyrics… lyrics are the second half why I love this band. It is that rare kind of lyrics, which is very colorful and strong. There are almost no rhythms in it, and many of their songs look just like stories. Such lyrics have small (or no) repeated parts. Meaning is the main part of their lyrics.
And that meaning is the third half why I love BG (which makes 150% of love).
I just say that they have full album written by the inspiration of Silmarilion by JRRT.
2 songs inspired by Stephen King’s novels. And almost all other songs are based either on mythology (“Gates of Valhalla”, for example) or on fantasy motifs, or spirituality (most of all). They reveal different topics, from reincarnation (“Lost in the Twilight Hall”) to more tangible things like problem of modern society, where people live in a pale reality loosing their imagination. (“Imaginations from the other side”)
And in case you are freaky enough to read this sentence, here are two songs of theirs. (short previews), I tried to show both edges of the spectrum.
Another holy war (http://user.rol.ru/~lokifox/bg/another_holy_war(s).mp3)
Nightfall (http://user.rol.ru/~lokifox/bg/nightfall(s).mp3)
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Bump: For A Music Review.
Metallica - St. Anger
Running Time: 75:00
Tracks: 11
Metallica are one of my favourite bands in the whole world. Therefore I was eagerly looking forward to their new album.
However, I'll get my complaints out of the way first.
Feeling the need to assert their speed-metal prowess on the rock scene once again, presumably to show the new generation of musical upstarts how it's done. However, the nu-gen metal bands making this kind of music, are doing it better. Metallica simply cannot compete with the System Of A Down's of this world, and for all the underground wannabe scrabbling we get on this album (NOTE: There are NO guitar solos!), the album is left wanting in the song-writing department. The title track notwithstanding, there are few future Metalliclassic's which leap out.
Secondly, this album should have a credit "brought to you in association with the TAMA Lars Ulrich Signature Snare drum (http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM01/Content/Tama/PR/Lars1.jpg)", because it's resonating "KRONG!" sound is what sticks out most from the drum-sound on the album.
Bob Rock's normally clean and tight production is sacrificed for a more Ross Robinson approach leaving it loose and dirty.
OK, pluses. Although they ain't the best at this kind of music (SOAD beat them into the ground now), it's certainly great to hear them back to the Puppets/Justice style, and the to see them do they almost progressive epics again is refreshing after the days of the Symphony. After all that they still know how to rock.
Although newbie Rob Trujillo (ex-Suicidal Tendencies) looks like he's settled in nicely on the accompanying DVD, he's mostly absent on the album itself, Bob Rock filling in on bass after the departure of Jason Newsted.
All in all, this is not their greatest album (nothing comes close to "Master Of Puppets" for me), it's a set of songs which are not as bad as some of the filler on the Load and Re-Load sets.
7/10
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This morning on the way to work, I heard their first single "St. Anger." All I can say is that I was thoroughly appalled. The song sounded amateurish and contrived, and I was pretty disappointed. It just sounded like the same refraid, over and over again, for about 4 or 5 minutes.
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Anthrax - We've Come For You All
I got the digi-pack, very cool unique packaging :cool: Anyway, this is their first album in half a decade, but it still rocks hard. 'What Doesn't Die' is probably their heaviest track to date, just slightly heavier than 'Random Acts of Senseless Violance', and that's saying something. I think it's the kick drum that did it, and the pure speed thrash guitars. Anyway, that's my fave track on the album. There's loads of other cool tracks too, but a bit of filler too in the second half. The Title track at the end is awesome though.
Also thoughout this entire album, Charlies drumming is increadible. He's gotta be one of my fave drummers ever. Check 'Nobody Knows Anything' out, the drumming in that is mind blowing. I found that throughout this album it had a real 80's flavour, especially in some of the guitar solos. Anthrax's old 80's stuff is classic, but the productions lets it down, so it's really awesome to hear it now with meaty awesome production throughout the album. Also I much prefer Bush's vocals. 'Cadillac Rock Box' is something a bit different, but it really works and it's probably my second fave track on the album, very cool. But this album's not as good as my fave Anthrax album, 1998's 'Vol 8 - The Threat Is Real'. But still this is an awesome album, and not far behind IMO.
7/10 :)
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bands everyone should check out:
Fugazi
Thrice
At The Drive-In
Sparta
Alkaline Trio
Blindside
Zwan
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Originally posted by asianlightning:
This morning on the way to work, I heard their first single "St. Anger." All I can say is that I was thoroughly appalled. The song sounded amateurish and contrived, and I was pretty disappointed. It just sounded like the same refraid, over and over again, for about 4 or 5 minutes.
Two words: Enter Sandman - talk about a one riff song.
Having said that, I know what you mean, the sound on the new album takes some getting used to after the recent "polished" efforts.
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Metallica let me down, years ago. After releasing one of if not the best Metal album of the 80's in Master of Puppets, they shot stright down the tubes. That fucking Black Album made me laugh and cry at the same time. St. Anger is just a forced, conrived attempt to cash in on the Nu-Metal craze from a band going through a mid-life crisis. Hey Look we're still true, see? The rough production and evil lyrics are back...Pleeeez buy our albums!
Napster, Napster, Where's the cash that I've been after?
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Everyone knows who my favorite band is...
They (http://www.highroadtouring.com/artists/tmbg/gallery/promo/tmbg-general%20colour1.jpg)
Might (http://www.highroadtouring.com/artists/tmbg/gallery/promo/tmbg-general%20colour2.jpg)
Be (http://www.csus.edu/news/tmbg7.jpg)
Giants! (http://www.asburybaronet-fastlane.com/Giants.JPG)
If you like, here is some mp3s (http://www.dialasong.com) from their answering machine, which one can call (Call from work, and it's free!) in order to get a song from their "Dial-a-Song" answering machine. The number is 718-387-6962.
Words cannot describe how much I love this band. Started all the way back in 1892, they have created a legacy that will never be forgotten, and is still be honored today by thousands of fans.
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Originally posted by Spice Weasel:
Metallica let me down, years ago. After releasing one of if not the best Metal album of the 80's in Master of Puppets, they shot stright down the tubes. That fucking Black Album made me laugh and cry at the same time.
The Black Album was a relief to me, after "Justice" it was nice to have an album with bass on it.
Agreed though, none of 'em come anywhere near touching "...Puppets". You could say that, to you, the best part of Metallica was crushed under a bus?
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^Yeah Justice had horrible production. Sounded flatter than a freckle. Why did Metallica always bury the bass? The only album where you could hear Cliffy on was Kill 'em All.
Yes Melllvar, to me Metallica died under a bus in Sweden. :cry:
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Thing is, they've always been lacking in the bass department since Cliffy died - "Orion" is his swansong. To give them the benefit of the doubt they were in a difficult headspace when doing Justice, and Jason Newsted got the thick end of it.
On the "Classic Albums" Ep, Hetfield said that "You could tell who was mixing that thing, the drums are loud, the guitars are loud." I suppose it's what you get when you've got a gobby drummer. Bob Rock was a godsend at the time of the Black Album, because he got under their skin enough and didn't capitulate to Ulrich's Rockstar tantrums.
Right now, I'd love to see what Terry Date (Deftones/Pantera producer) would've done to the new album. The production's just to "dirty".
You're right, and it's how I felt in my review, they're no longer leading, they're following.
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Hmm--good thing I didn't start a whole topic about Radiohead's Hail to the Theif! :)
I love Radiohead--they're awesome. I don't know exactly where I'd put their new album in my order of likes, but it's already pulled ahead of Amnesiac, so that's a good sign.
Everyone says this CD is like a combined OK Computer and Kid A--which I can kind of see--but I can't see any song off of this album on either of those. This album seems more mellow mellow.
A Wolf at the Door is an awesome song--it's the one that I'm listening to right now so I thought I'd mention that.
The first couple of listens I wasn't so hot on this CD--but radiohead is like that--not so hot at first, and then addictive on subsequent listens.
In fact, the only song I think I don't like so well is "We Suck Young Blood."
I think this CD will be a lot easier to listen to for those who were not too fond of Amnesiac or Kid A. I loooove Kid A, and I love about 3 songs on Amnesiac--so I would have been happy if they continued in that vein entirely--but this CD is a nice blend of the ambience and the rock.
Futurama on in 1 min. . .late
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Two words: Enter Sandman - talk about a one riff song
I haven't heard much Metallica, but that's the only song of theirs I really like.
I haven't got time right now to do a review but there a selection of mine here (http://www.rgreview.com/browse_author.asp?ID=398). I do sound like a smartarse throughout them though :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Gorgak:
bands everyone should check out:
Fugazi
Thrice
At The Drive-In
Sparta
Alkaline Trio
Blindside
Zwan
i love you.
btw, ever checked out the mars volta? if not: you are missing something there. go download some of their songs (and buy the album once it's released). i recommend:
- cut that city
- cicatriz
- eunuch provocateur
- drunkship of lanterns
- concertina
i'ld suggest not to download other songs (unless you've really confirmed those are the mars volta songs), because there's also an italian electronica band out there called mars volta. and that's some mighty weird stuff.
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Originally posted by Spice Weasel:
Justice had horrible production. Sounded flatter than a freckle. Why did Metallica always bury the bass?
I know a lot of people will probably disagree with this, but before I say it, I just wanna say it's just my personal opinion. Anyway, I liked the production on Justice, infact I think it's probably their best produced album. I don't like much 80's metal because I can't stand the production. It's not that it's bad music, but the crap technology gave no meat or power to the guitars, and the drums in a lot of 80's metal sinks into the mix without punch, and is often way too trebly for me. There's not enough bass, and not enough separation between instruments either. Not all 80's metal albums are like this, there are exceptions, and some are well produced. And I think Justice is one of them.
I couldn't get into the first 3 Metallica albums because I couldn't stand the production, they suffered from the problems I mentioned above, weren’t clear enough for me. The music is classic, and I've got the 'Cunning Stunts' DVD, and on there they played some of their old stuff on those 3 albums and I loved it with today’s sound quality, but I just couldn't listen to the originals.
Justice however, although I agree it lacks bass bigtime, I think it's extremely well produced for an 80's album. It was their first album where you could really hear all the definition, range and punch in Lars drumming, and it showed just how good and talented he is. And the guitars sounded so meaty, and they had a metallic quality, living up to their name. The vocals were also more clear, and they were a bit rougher too, which I prefer. Hetfield started to find his voice on this album IMO. And although it's almost impossible to hear the bass guitar, it doesn't mean there's no bass in the music. Kirks guitar gives the music bass anyway, if there wasn't any bass at all then it would sound like it was made with tin foil. It's surprising, but I don't think the lack of bass guitar takes away from the sound quality and production of this album, it's got a hell of a lot more bass sound in it than most 80's albums. I don't know how, but it somehow does. It's got the right balance, and the guitars sound warm.
Now for something else that I know a lot of people will probably disagree with. I think Lars is an excellent very talented drummer, and he shines on Justice because it's produced well. But I have real problems with his drumming on all the following Metallica albums. The worst is The Black Album. It's not that the drumming itself is bad, far from it. It's because it's way too trebly for my liking, and that snare drum, or whatever it is is way too loud, and way too trebly for me. On Justice the drumming was very powerful, but had the right balance. But after that it's almost as if Lars has turned up the volume of his drumming above the volume of the rest of the music, and the treble makes me feel like my ears are gonna pop. I have to reluctantly turn it down because it gets too much after a while. Where the hell was the kick drum in The Black album? I found this problem in Load and Reload, but it wasn't as bad as on The Black Album. The production was more balanced, although his symbols came out a bit too abrasive for me. Off the new album, I've only heard the title track 'St Anger' so far, and I like it, but geez, same problem with the drums again, It's not so trebly this time, but it sound louder than heavier. Having drums louder doesn't make the music heavier, it just gets annoying. I end up having to turn it down, which is why I like the production on Justice, because I can listen to that without turning it down, the balance is right for me.
I think Justice is my fave Metallica album, it's their classic old skool riffing style, but with decent production. And my second fave is Reload. It's got some filler, but it's also got Fuel.
I know that most of it probably isn't Lars fault, Bob Rock is probably mostly to blame, but it's their fault for choosing him again to produce the new album. If only they could take a few tips from the Producer for Deftones, the drumming in that is amazing, and the production just how I like it. Also, I know Metallica hang out with Anthrax, and I just wish they could have got the production on Lars drumming more Like Charles from Anthrax, then their music would be so much heavier and better IMO.
Wow that's long, and I just want to stress that all that was just my opinion, just my opinion :)
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Justice has some good songs on it. See, my favourite Metallica songs are "For Whom The Bell Tolls" and "One", neither are on my favourite Metallica album, "Master Of Puppets".
As I said in my review, the drum sound on St. Anger is very distinctive insofar as Lars now has a "Signature" line of snares manufactured by TAMA, and I fear that the sound is meant to accentuate that snare-sound - and therefore sell the snares. You can hear it all the way through the album, and I wouldn't buy one - the sound is horrible.
I felt that they should've made one album from the Load/Reload sessions, and released that. No doubt there are some good songs that came out of those sessions, the aforementioned "Fuel", "The Outlaw Torn" is an amazing song. I've found that the level of songwriting has taken a back-seat to frantic riffing on the new album, and that's a shame. It's lyrically the poorest album they've put out.
That said, I'm warming to it.
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hey spacemanspiff, good to see that there are some good music fans out there. I have not heard any Mars Volta stuff yet, although my friend has been downloading some of their songs and has told me its pretty good stuff.
Visit my band's website at www.separatedmusic.com (http://www.separatedmusic.com)
In about a month we will have mp3's up of our studio tracks. e-mail me and tell me what ya think.
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Originally posted by Gorgak:
Visit my band's website at www.separatedmusic.com (http://www.separatedmusic.com)
In about a month we will have mp3's up of our studio tracks. e-mail me and tell me what ya think.
Is that from the session you're doing/done in LA? I've checked you website out it looks good. As PEEL band-whore, it's only fair that I post my main band's website, check it out:
http://www.shiftymusic.co.uk (http://www.shiftymusic.co.uk)
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Lars Upset that Even Iraqis Don't Like "St. Anger" (http://go.fark.com/cgi/fark/go.pl?IDLink=558819&location=http://story.news.yahoo.com/news%3ftmpl=story%26cid=495%26e=6%26u=/ap/metallica_music)
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this is just too offtopic
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Originally posted by Gorgak:
hey spacemanspiff, good to see that there are some good music fans out there. I have not heard any Mars Volta stuff yet, although my friend has been downloading some of their songs and has told me its pretty good stuff.
you bet. in terms of creativity and skills, mars volta put sparta to shame. if you listen to their songs for the first time, you'll be overwhelmed by the sheer complexity. for example, cut that city is based on a 13/8 beat. please try to play that - getting this straight at that speed is pretty hard.
Visit my band's website at www.separatedmusic.com (http://www.separatedmusic.com)
In about a month we will have mp3's up of our studio tracks. e-mail me and tell me what ya think.
i already checked the site, and as soon as the mp3s are up, i'll listen to them(it'ld be great if you could drop me a note, a post, an e-mail, whatever, telling me that the mp3s are up).
btw, do you like (obscure) math and noise rock?
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Originally posted by Ricky:
A quick glance at my mp3 folder reveals that I listen to just about anything. Classical music... Sepultura... Spice girls... Zappa... Geinoh Yamashirogumi... Limp bizkit... Blur... Van Morrison... various operas... Missy Elliott... The list goes on!
i'm sorry... if that's everything... then everything is just about... yeah... shite.... but here's a list of good artists i recommend:
Sage Francis
Eyedea
Nas
N.O.R.E.
N.E.R.D.
Blackalicious
Tribe Called Quest
Jurassic 5
Deftones
KORN
System of A Down
Aesop Rock
Dorian 3
50 Cent
Trapt
It's not a complete list.. but it's good enough for now
Mostly Rap... be forewarned.
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Trapt? ewwww... trapt? ewwwww....
this isn't a 'list music you like' thread either :p it's for music reviews!
So here's mine:
Deftones - Deftones [2003]
it's been 3 long years since 'white pony', but the deftones have finally released their 4th album... and I for one think it was worth the wait.
The opening track, "Hexagram", is very brutal track that is completely metaphorical lyrically. The song surrounds Iraqis' and the war involved... But to the naked ear, one would probably not be able to hear this. Throughout this album you are basically bashed with lyrically abusive songs that are like nothing else on the radio or other-wise lame current music scene.
This album is definitely not "White Pony 2". While there are some similarities from white pony to 'deftones', it's not any more noticeable than past deftones albums. From Adrenaline, to Around the Fur, to White Pony, they all have their own identity lyrically and musically.
The deftones aren't a sound everyone enjoys though... many people label it as an acquired taste. But I think it really is just a type of music that is so full of adrenaline and life that most people can't handle it... they just want their balads and guitar solos to keep them happy. If you want a nu-metal album, do not buy this. deftones are anything but nu-metal, and hate being compared to bands like KoRn or Linkin Park. The lead singer, Chino, even bashed the bands touring with them on the Summer Sanitarium Tour saying they've basically lost their soul.
I've noticed that many words get re-used in this album, like the words 'proud' and 'crowd', but if you notice in other deftones albums, they do the same. My theory to this is Chino writes many songs at the same time with his current thoughts, which then get sliced into different songs.
I also think this is probably the fullest sounding deftones album yet. Listening to track 1 through 11, it just all goes together. The only probably I have with this album is the slight repitiveness of some choruses… though, it doesn’t make you hate the song… one example would be the repeated use of “Worship play, worship play, worship pray” in hexagram.
To me, the song “deathblow” alone is worth buying this album. It’s already fallen into the list of all time favorite deftones songs of mine such as “digitalbath”, “fireal”, “mascara”, and “MX”.
If you can handle something new that the deftones haven't done before, get this album. But don’t judge it on the first listen, cause if you don’t really pay attention to the uniqueness of this album, you might think it’s “meh” to begin with.
Stand out tracks:
Deathblow
Minvera
Battleaxe
Hexagram
Good Morning Beautiful
Bloody Cape
9/10
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I would 100% completely agree with that review.
Special mention should go to Deftones association with producer Terry Date. Every album they make should always be with him, as his production has become part and parcel of the Deftones sound.
One thing I get from listening to the new album, is that they always push the envelope from the last one. On "White Pony" there were polar opposite songs like "Elite" and "Teenager". On this we have more of the same. "Anniversary Of An Uninteresting Event" is delicate and beautiful, next to the hammerblow of "Hexagram", "Bloody Cape" and others.
Deftones have become one of my favourite bands for their insistence of ploughing their own furrow and going against the Nu-Whatever establishment. Funny, you never hear the words, "Sell-out" around them.
I should add that both times I've seen them live, Chino Moreno has come across one of the charismatic frontmen in rock, and therefore the band have blown me away.
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north of america - this is dancefloor numerology
released: 2001
record label: rewika records / matlock records
total playtime: 37:44
track list:
1. let's on
2. ship and captain
3. and they all thought "canada"
4. xrxxrxrx
5. fuck (repeating)
6. revolt on (!=) revolution
7. minus sign
8. yes, this is a rant
9. every mirror we broke was a black cat
10. fin to fin
11. pedigree aside
the norts are back, and this time, they're pissed. being from northern canada, halifax to be exact, north of america already excelled with their last 3 albums, with the second one, these songs are cursed being the most successful one.
well, they definately leave this path now. no more pavement-ish indie-pop-songs with some shellac elements. this record is pure, evil, dischordal math-core. recorded only in a two week session in new york you notice the energy it took to complete the whole album in such a short time. the songs are vibrating with this energy and they are bound to capture you.
that is, once you got into the style. the songs consist of mid to up-tempo beats, often interrupted by surprising and unpredictable pauses and rhythm changes, a driving bass who apparently seems to be used more to keep the rhythm than to play a melody and two guitars who often sound as if they're somehow not in tune. melodies and harmonies in the usual sense are often hidden, but every song is actually based on a really nice almost poppish melody, hidden in the whole musicial chaos but just waiting to be discovered.
the singing, done by all four band members (although you can never guess who is singing now) ranges between rather typical math-rock parameters and screaming, often with two different lyrics sung at the same time, making the song sound even more confusing.
if this description sounds like pure noise nobody would ever listen to to you: at first, it might seem like it. but once you've listened to this album a few times, north of america will have captivated you too. this album is like a drug and you always discover new things in the songs. the dynamics in this album seem endless and it's full of raw energy.
the lyrics are, as usual, pretty much not comprehensible but indeed fun to listen to. north of america seem to like playing with words and the result often sounds pretty weird. my favourites include:
"processors they got but they (ain't) got no process"
"(but if grammar is a hammer why does sublety matter?) / because you can't spell revolution without "u" and "i""
"no knowns know knowns"
there are only a few weaker songs on this record and on the whole, it sounds very consistent. the highlights definately include the pretty noisy opener let's on, the dynamical fuck (repeating), revolt on (!=) revolution which is based on a pretty cool garage-rhythm, minus sign which probably features the most confusing singing and the 3/4-beat-based, dischordal yes, this is a rant.
despite the fact, that this record is probably as far away from mainstream as possible, even by north of america's standards, it's still one hell of a good record. that's why..
rating: 8.5/10
line-up: j. lapointe, mark colavecchia, mark mullane, michael catano.
two songs (xrxxrxrx and fuck (repeating) are available for download at rewika (http://www.rewika.com).
i've also linked them here: xrxxrxrx (http://www.rewika.de/mp3/north_of_america-04-xrxxrxx.mp3) ; fuck (repeating) (http://www.rewika.de/mp3/north_of_america-05-fuck_(repeating).mp3).
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FAzeshift you have Mambo NO5? :(
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Originally posted by Australian Guy:
FAzeshift you have Mambo NO5? :(
he also has cotton-eye joe by rednex.
faze, i'm so disappointed in you.
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I heard St. Anger yesterday--and I thought it sounded like a CD full of all the weak tracks on a Godsmack album. But--maybe it won't sound like that after listening to it more.
BTW--anyone here an Alice in Chains fan? If so--ever heard the Mad Season CD?
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Originally posted by Squeezit:
BTW--anyone here an Alice in Chains fan? If so--ever heard the Mad Season CD?
Yeah, I'm a really big AIC fan. I've only heard one track off the Mad Season CD though, called 'River of Deceit'. It's very mellow, not really like most AIC stuff, but it grows on you when you hear it more :)
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Mad Season is totally unlike all of AIC's stuff--Layne really uses his voice in a more mellow, jazzy kind of way. My favorite song from that album is "Wake Up," it's really terrific
Jerry Cantrell's new solo album is pretty good too. It's like all the great guitar and song writing without Layne's voice though, which is saddening. Oh well, I didn't think they were gonna make a new album anyway, even if he didn't die.
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I've discovered just how much I don't not like Aerosmith and U2. I've found myself downloading songs from both of these bands. If I get one more from either, I may have to buy a CD.
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Is this earlier Aerosmith and U2 stuff, or more recent? Because I will admit that older songs from those two bands are indeed quite listenable. For me, however, Aerosmith completely lost it after the album "Pump." I'm not a huge U2 fan, but the same thing happened to them...they're not as good as they used to be in the early 90s/all of the 80s.
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Do you ppl really think metallica filmed that video in a Max security prison?
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They did but they forgot to mention the intense security they where under. I like the whole no hostage policy, espcially with that tard lars ulman involved. Im sure hes a great drummer but c'mon guys, hes a common day tard.
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They are some of the most powerful ppl in Rock. They Head, or Lars, A record company. Why do you think they oppose Warez. Artists dont care because they get most of the money from Contracts, not royalties. But if you have stock in a Company then more sales means more MONAY.
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Originally posted by Squeezit:
Mad Season is totally unlike all of AIC's stuff--Layne really uses his voice in a more mellow, jazzy kind of way. My favorite song from that album is "Wake Up," it's really terrific
Jerry Cantrell's new solo album is pretty good too. It's like all the great guitar and song writing without Layne's voice though, which is saddening. Oh well, I didn't think they were gonna make a new album anyway, even if he didn't die.
Clool :cool: yeah I've got Jerry Cantrell's new solo album 'Degredation Trip'. It's really good, but really depressing in places though, especially the songs with stuff to do with Laynes death. But very cool album, and my fave song on it is 'Angel Eyes', kinda reminds me of the AIC song 'Heaven Beside You'. And I didn't really think they'd make another album even if he didn't die either, but maybe a few songs now and again :)
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What the fuck is a tard?
Anyways, the money's in publishing. Fact.
You don't own dick in the music business unless your name is on the dotted line at BMI. That is why some of the newer artists are listed at songwriters on their songs, they know the value of copyright, and are savvy enough to have it put in writing, so that when they're has-beens, the checks keep on coming.
If that were not so, why would artists bid millions for Copyrights to older artists back-catalogs? (Michael Jackson/Beatles, Paul McCartney/Buddy Holly, etc.) It's one of the only ways you can make money while sleeping.
Now, Lars Ulrich is listed as songwriter on all of Metallica's songs, yet he never wrote a note in his life. He's the arranger: play this for two bars, that for four, then double-time the chorus, etc. Song written, now where's my check?
He's business-minded, hence the wrangles over Napster. Therefore, he's gonna try and get every cent he can. Good luck to him, if I were in that position, me too!
Back to reviews: Otis, if you loved "Justice", you'll love "St. Anger", go get it.
@DrT: U2 will never surpass "Achtung Baby" in my opinion, and that's no mean feat anyway, as it was one of the best albums of the 90's.
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
What the fuck is a tard?
My guess is it means "retard". And yes, if you ask me, he does look like one.
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Angel Eyes is my favorite song on there too--I'm always angry because they play Nickleback crap on the radio every 5 minutes but they only played Angel Eyes ONCE. I can't stand the radio. . .
At least if Layne didn't die they might have had a reunion concert. . . :(
And I always download music to see if it's good--and if it is--I buy the album. If it wasn't for downloading I wouldn't have bought every Radiohead and Alice in Chains CD I could find. The music industry must be worried because they're one hit wonders are being exposed for what they are before everyone makes the mistake of buying their worthless CDs.
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Oriinally Posted By Oompa Loompa:
Yeah, you heard me, what are your favourite bands? Pls, no rap, eminem, whatever shit, I said music
I think I have a very good taste when it comes to music, but I would like to know what you guys dig!
My list, although not big, it's the quality that counts!
Radiohead- Magnificent
Live, only in the younger days!
Counting crows: very good.
Unbelievable Truth- what do did you think, the brother of thom yorke for god's sake
Siguros- Great band that uses his own created language.
REM: Has some good songs
Flaming lips: I like them, but not as much as the other ones.....
I like Siguros Too, and vast. Has anyone Heard Vast? He's Realy great.
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Relient K - Two Lefts Don't Make a Right (...but three do)
(http://langnome.mysitespace.com/RelientKAlbum.gif)
15 tracks - 57:02 minutes
Goatee Records/ I Went Fishing And All I Got Was This Lousy Publishing
1. Chap Stick, Chapped Lips and Things Like Chemistry
2. Mood Rings
3. Falling Out
4. Forward Motion
5. In Love With the 80's (pink tux to the prom)
6. College Kids
7. Trademark
8. Hoopes I Did It Again
9. Over Thinking
10. Am I Understood?
11. Getting Into You
12. (untitled)
13. Gibberish
14. From End To End
15. Jefferson Aero Plane
A band like this might not interest most of you, thanks to its label as "Christian Rock," but they're much less gospel singers than they are a band that just has Christian members, like P.O.D. Sure, a few of their songs are more religious than others, but for the most part it's just random rock.
Their style has been called punk, but they're really not -- they're more like ska, just without wind instruments. Light punk, I suppose. Watered-down, if you prefer. :) What can I say; I like it.
Anywho, this is their latest effort, and I think a good one. The sound this time around is a little more mellow than before. Most songs flow well into the next track, and in fact when casually listening it is possible to go three tracks and believe you're still on the same song. Though overall not as consistently great as their last CD (The Anatomy of the Tongue in Cheek), the best tracks on this CD are better than the best on their last.
They experiment a bit with heavier styles and different lead vocalists on some tracks, to great success on "From End To End," where they use a more traditional rock sound. The same is not true for "Am I Understood?", the band just doesn't have the right vocals to support a heavy-metal type sound.
The songs "Falling Out," "Forward Motion," "From End To End," and "Trademark" are all catchy and the best selections on the disc for good combinations of lyrics/music. As always, there is at least one nonsense, just-for-fun song, and "Gibberish" fills the bill. Also appearing is the traditional hidden track, a surprisingly good rap effort by the band's vocalists. The lyrics themselves are random as their hidden tracks always are, but the quality is good.
Perhaps the only thing missing this time around is the tradition of pop culture references sprinkled throughout tracks. Past songs have contemplated Marilyn Manson, Nancy Drew, the Thundercats, and Charles In Charge. Aside from some passing references to Tears for Fears and Jefferson Airplane, there aren't any this time.
Personal favorite tracks include all four of the best tracks mentioned above, as well as "Gibberish" for pure entertainment value, and "In Love With The 80's (pink tux to the prom)" for nostalgia reasons.
Relient K is one of my favorite bands, probably second behind the mighty ska of Five Iron Frenzy. This is great for me because the band members in each group are friends, and often tour together. In short, this band is on my short list of groups who's songs I refuse to download off the internet. I figure they deserve my money.
8.5/10
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Yeah. I alwaysd buy albums of artists i think its important to support.
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Electric Six - Fire
1. Dance Commander
2. Electric Demons In Love
3. Naked Pictures (Of Your Mother)
4. Danger! High Voltage
5. She's White
6. I Invented The Night
7. Improper Dancing
8. Gay Bar
9. Nuclear War (On The Dancefloor)
10. Getting Into the Jam
11. Vengeance and Fashion
12. I'm The Bomb
13. Synthesizer
Anyone who's seen any of the two videos for Electric Six's singles "Danger! High Voltage" and "Gay Bar", will know that this music is not for the seriously minded.
That's a good thing, music is meant to be fun and boy are these guys having a blast. Crammed with party tracks, great hooks and memorable lyrics ("I was born a prisoner in your dungeon of fish" - "She's White" ), this is a record designed to snap the perpetually depressed out of their funk, and get them dancing.
Standout tracks are the aforementioned "Danger! High Voltage" (with the helium co-vocal of The White Stripes' Jack White) and "Gay Bar", closely followed by the brilliant "Naked Pictures (Of Your Mother)", "Dance Commander", "I'm The Bomb" and "She's White" - although the whole album is fun from start to finish.
Evoking funktastic 70's Disco spirit mixed with current trendy garage-band hooks (few songs are much more than three minutes), so if you're not enjoying the current track, don't worry, another one will be along soon enough.
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Originally posted by Squeezit:
Angel Eyes is my favorite song on there too--I'm always angry because they play Nickleback crap on the radio every 5 minutes but they only played Angel Eyes ONCE. I can't stand the radio. . .
At least if Layne didn't die they might have had a reunion concert. . . :(
And I always download music to see if it's good--and if it is--I buy the album. If it wasn't for downloading I wouldn't have bought every Radiohead and Alice in Chains CD I could find. The music industry must be worried because they're one hit wonders are being exposed for what they are before everyone makes the mistake of buying their worthless CDs.
Awesome :cool: Yeah I hate the radio too, and Homebase FM (the radiostation where I work) is even worse :hmpf: I hate the way radiostations try to shape and mould people to listen to what they want us to hear, rather than what we actually want to hear. Just like the manufactered bands they often play, they try to manufacter what we listen to as well, and it sucks.
I'm not sure if Layne would have ever been up to doing a reunion concert ever again, even if he didn't die. They only just managed to get him back to record their last 2 songs in 1998. And in the video for 'Get Born Again', although Layne was in it, he was either covered in weird stuff to disguise his state, or just clips were used from the 'Sea of Sorrow video of him singing. Actually, I'm not actaully certain if it was him covered in that stuff anyway?
And downloading music has it's ups and downs. I often download music just to test an album to see if I like it, so I don't waste a load of money on something I don't like, But often I hear one song by someone like, then download some more songs off their album, and if I like them, then I'll buy it :)
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ME likey Grandaddy and Flashlight Brown, Two up and coming bands
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(http://www.noiserecords.com/noiseimg/mindset/band2.jpg)
Mindset - A Bullet For Cinderella
1999
1. Giftwrap
2. Sorry
3. System
4. Mother Loves You
5. 8 Beers and a Book on Zen
6. Divided
7. Wasted Time
8. Laugh
9. Die, Ricki Die
10. W.B.P.M.
11. Everyman
12. Bullet for Cinderella
13. Bottom of the Glass
This is a really awesome album, by a band that practically knowone has heard of. They're a metal band from Virginia Beach, USA. And this album is their second album. Their style is awesome, the guitar riffs are so powerful and kinda funky, but dark at the same time. Their style kinda has aspects of Rage Against The Machine, Deftones, KoRn, Metallica and a whole load of stuff mixed together. But they distinctly don't sound like any of those bands, they have their own style, and views.
They are very against society and the way things are, which is expressed through the lyrics, which aren't shouty, but very melodic. They create a really clool contrast with the sludgy guitars. Also the production is very meaty on the guitars, and it's very clear and well produced too. I actually bought this album back in 1999 when it was released, but my parents took it back because they didn't like the lyrics. I was gutted, and there's nothing particulalry wrong with them. There's a little swearing, but not loads, but it's very anti-society and 'The System', which is one of the songs. That's what my parents had against it. I've tried finding this album since, but I've had no luck because they're so unheard of. I've had to resort to downloading it, but even that's an obsticale because hardly anyone has it online either. But I've managed to get most of the tracks after much searching.
My fave tracks are 'Divided', 'Wasted Time', 'Everyman' and the title track. There other songs are mostly clool too, there's a little filler along the way though. But the good songs more than make up for it. And also, the title of the album isn't literal. It means that they look at a lot of pop music as Fairytale music, and this album is the bullet into that 'Fairytale' music. I'm not sure what's happened since they released this album but I've heard nothing about them since.
But anyway, this album rules, it's just a pitty hardly anyone's heard it.
8/10
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Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff:
he also has cotton-eye joe by rednex.
faze, i'm so disappointed in you.
Purely for cheesy nostalgia, I loved it when it came out at the young and impressionable age I was. It's a woeful song though.
For upcoming Aerosmith fans I recommend Just Push Play, Dream On, Big Ten Inch and Last Child.
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I listen to thesse bands:
Metallica
Linkin Park
Saliva
Limp Bizkit
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Foo Fighters - Lessons In Aviation
A FF compilation I made for Dadbot - 2001.
1. My Hero
2. This Is A Call
3. Learn To Fly
4. I'll Stick Around
5. Breakout
6. Big Me
7. Monkey Wrench
8. Alone + Easy Target
9. For All The Cows
10. Hey! Johnny Park!
11. My Poor Brain
12. Generator
13. Wind Up
14. Stacked Actors
15. Everlong
16. Next Year
17. Walking After You
This was a comp CD I made, mainly to introduce Dadbot to what a great band the Foo's are - he's a big fan now. I made sure that I had liberal sprinkles of singles, and selections from all three albums (at the time - this was made before One By One).
As with rules on compilations tapes, there are tracks which are designed to open the album (the obvious choice would have been track 1 from album 1, "This Is A Call" ) - however, I remembered a Foo's gig I went to where they started with "My Hero" - a lot of my single-band compilation tracklists comes from gig-setlists.
The second rule of compilations is to build to a great standout track, that (on this selection) being "Everlong" - still the best Foo Fighters song (for me). Thereafter putting two slower tempo tracks to wind the listener down after the high-tempo rock tunes. This is a compilation I'd wish I'd made for myself - with the cover of Pink Floyd's "Have A Cigar" missing from this CD.
Now, how I'd do one including the new album, I'll never know.
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Evanescence - Fallen
2003 - Epic/Wind Up
Play Time: 44:19
Track List:
1. Going Under
2. Bring Me To Life
3. Everybody's Fool
4. My Immortal
5. Haunted
6. Tourniquet
7. Imaginary
8. Taking Over Me
9. Hello
10. My Last Breath
11. Whisper
My ears sure perked up when I heard this. Goth tinged female fronted hard rock on the radio? Well, it's about fucking time.
Some may see them as a new style in music, or even pioneers of that sound. That is not the case. It is just the first example of the genre to be played on the radio. that in itself makes this album remarkable and somewhat of an overdue landmark. Once again America has to catch up to Europe. Sometimes that takes a few years.
What we have here, is fairly stock hard riffing guitar rock, (I have heard some comparisons to Linkin Park, but personally, I can't see that) with keyboards, choirs and breif electronic passages.
The clincher, that make this album stand out is the absolutely wonderful voice and controlled singing style of Amy Lee. Her reigned in emotion and conservative vocal acrobatics suit the music very well. You can tell, she could really let loose if she wanted to, but wisely does not.
The songs themselves are not that original, however, are well crafted and provide a good vehicle for Amy's talent. You can tell the songs were written to suit her voice, rather than the other way around.
The lyrical content is nothing to make one take notice. Rather dark and haunting by design. One thinly veiled song about suicide can't help but remind me of "Don't Fear The Reaper" and brings a smile to my face. Awww...the kids still want to off themselves, how little has changed.
The music is well done and slickly produced. The guitars sound good and NU with lots of bite and drive, thankfully they are not over used. The keyboards and choirs are the interesting bits and give a hearty tip of the hat to their (unknown to American listeners) European forerunners.
I cannot recommend this album without giving major props to the bands that created and honed this type of music for a number of years. If you like "Fallen" you would do well to seek out recordings by Lacuna Coil, The Gathering, Tristania, After Forever and even the far superior in every respect, Nightwish, although they are more of a classicaly influenced power metal band.
My only knock on this record is the thankfully brief, male backup vocals done in that nauseating rappy-metally jockrock style. They are mercifully few and far between.
Evanescence will be a band to watch. In my opinion, they have the potential for greatness. I sure hope that their target audience does not water them down into another No Doubt.
7/10 Impressive debut effort.
Edit, much later:
I stand corrected. So I will say Impressive major label debut effort.
Tourniquet is a great, great song and makes the album for me.
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Spicey, good review. Nuff respect to ya, fella.
I have the album too, and feel a surge of pride that "Bring Me To Life" has kept crappy pop-tunes off the top of the British Charts for 3 weeks now.
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I disagree. I personally think Evanescence sounds exactly like Linkin Park in their first song. Especially when the Linkin Park reject guy starts "rapping" over a perfectly decent song.
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That's not rapping, hun.
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The rappy-male vocals are kept to a bare minimum on the album though - they hardly feature, except in the single.
I'd be interested to hear recordings by the other bands Spicey mentioned. Lacuna Coil, I've heard of, though not heard. I shall seek them out.
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Originally posted by Jeremy:
That's not rapping, hun.
That's why it was in "quotes."
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"shut up."
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
I'd be interested to hear recordings by the other bands Spicey mentioned. Lacuna Coil, I've heard of, though not heard. I shall seek them out.
Thanks for the kind words Melll. Lacuna Coil hail from Italy and has one of the foxyest singers ever :love: Not that it sways my opinion. :flirt:...Amy is certainly no wallflower. Seek out their latest album "Comalies" You will be pleasently surprised, me thinks.
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Originally posted by Spice Weasel:
Thanks for the kind words Melll. Lacuna Coil hail from Italy and has one of the foxyest singers ever :love: Not that it sways my opinion. :flirt:...Amy is certainly no wallflower. Seek out their latest album "Comalies" You will be pleasently surprised, me thinks.
(http://www.lacunacoil.it/Photos/Photosession/CL04.jpg)
The (rather unfortunately named) Christina Scabbia. Mmm, she's fine (she ain't scabby anyway). As you say, Amy Lee's pretty fine too.
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Having heard their song, Wake Me Up Inside, I was taken in by Evanescence. When it was my birthday (April 28), I called my friend to see what CD was worth buying. Without thinking, he suggested I take them up. He also was saying that they remind him of Linkin Park. Evanescense is great, but I think they should be put on a different perspective from that of Linkin Park. I like both, I'm happy, that's all that matters to me.
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Originally posted by Spice Weasel:
I cannot recommend this album without giving major props to the bands that created and honed this type of music for a number of years. If you like "Fallen" you would do well to seek out recordings by Lacuna Coil, The Gathering, Tristania, After Forever and even the far superior in every respect, Nightwish, although they are more of a classicaly influenced power metal band.
Based on Spicey's recommendation, I've been grabbing random tracks from the last Lacuna Coil album, "Comalies" - and at first listen, it's pretty damn good. Quite right in saying that Evanescence's sounds owes a debt to these guys (among others).
The vocals are spot-on, the singer, Christina Scabbia has a fantastic voice, one to match that of Amy Lee.
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Good on ya, Melll. I'm glad you took the time to delve deeper into that Gothy-Girly-Metalesque sound, of which I'm a pretty big fan of. It's a fairly crowded subgenre, that make Evanescence's effort that much more impressive, as it stands up well with it's forerunners.
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Ive been too lasy to buy any albums lately. Ive been considering radioheads newwy but, things got in my way..like the front door.
The last album I bought was either "The white stripes- elephant or Hot hot heat - make up the breakdown...for the last month ive been listening to trail of dead- sources tags and codes...
ive heard good things about the mars volta's debut, ill probaly get that..
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Alkaline trio's new album, Good Mourning, gets a B+ from me. Not as good as FHTI, but it's catchy and beatful. Longer review in time. :p
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Jamiroquai - Syncronized
1999
1. Canned Heat
2. Planet Home
3. Black Capricorn Day
4. Soul Education
5. Falling
6. Destitute Illusions
7. Supersonic
8. Butterfly
9. Where Do We Go From Here?
10. King For A Day
(bonus track). Deeper underground
This is my fave Jamiroquai album, I love every track. 'Canned Heat' opens the album, I love this track, has a really clool retro disco feel and is a great beginning for a great album. 'Planet Home' goes back to JK's roots about environmentalism and how alienated our planet has become. It gets you thinking. Also it's nice that the Didgeridoo is still being used, in 'Supersonic'. And the album carrys on with great track after great track, and even the slower tracks like 'Falling' and 'Butterfly' are awesome too, with really nice lyrics. 'Soul Education' is so funky, and 'Deeper Underground' is one of my all time fave Jamiroquai trax. It wasn't originally intended for this album, but became so popular they added it as a bonus track, and I'm very glad they did. It fits on really well too. Their newer album 'A Funk Odyssey' is a lot more electronic than all their others, which is not a bad thing. But it seems this is their last album, for now anyway with their original formula. But some nice experimentation that really works. Awesome album :cool:
9/10
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Originally posted by mikey:
ive heard good things about the mars volta's debut, ill probaly get that..
yeah, it's awesome. i'm gonna buy it soon (as soon as i have the money).
dibs on a review of that one here! :p
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Too bad someone here already bought it!
:: points to self::
Yeah baby, that was me. And it fucking rocks!
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7/10 for evanescence? really? wow. i give them 10/10. The music is gorgeous, i love the lyrics and i like Ben's vocals. I saw them in concert last night and they are amazing live. We demanded one more song, so she came out and gave us 2 and then mtv (they were filming) came out and said because of a few audio problems they needed to redo two songs so we ended up getting a second encore, they did their 2 songs and then ben decided he wasn't done yet and forced Amy to sing "road to nevernever land" (i doubt thats the name of the song but its the only lyric i remember from it)but she didn't know the words so she tried to steal his guitar and ended up dragging him across the stage on his back cause he wouldn't let go. It was all in good fun they were laughing the whole way. and she did get his guitar eventually and ran away with it. Their gonna air it all on MTV but i don't know when.
EDIT: SpiceWeasel, you made a mistake. Fallen isn't their debut album. Origin is. But origin was a limited release album that is now out of print. you can only get it off of Ebay for like 300 dollars but Amy Lee said in a radio interview that she doesn't want people spending that much and to just dl it.
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Sounds like Evanescence singing Enter Sandman?
Check out the other bands Spicey mentioned if you like Evanescence, Lacuna Coil are pretty damn good.
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enter sandman! yeah i think that's it. yeah im listening to lacuna now, but i think evanescence is better. Amy's voice is nicer.
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Originally posted by Spice Weasel:
The songs themselves are not that original, however, are well crafted and provide a good vehicle for Amy's talent. You can tell the songs were written to suit her voice, rather than the other way around.
well, that makes sense considering Amy helps write all of the songs.
i'm listenign to lacuna right now and for some reason her voice reminds me of that lady in the Cranberries. i'm listening to "stars" right now and all i can think of is that lady. Some of the other songs sound very 'evanescency' but i think evanescence could do covers of some of these and make them sound better then the originals. Like "falling" i would love to hear Amy's take on that. she did a great cover of orestes's "perfect circle" and Nirvana's "heartshaped box" and what she remembered of "enter the sandman" last night sounded awesome.
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Venus, you are lucky. Evanescence is a good band and slowly climbing up to my favorite bands list. That concert sounded like a lot of fun.
The most recent one I went to was the Casualties concert. It was really great. :D
Oh, my second TOTP dance of the day!
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(http://www.linkinpark.com/images/music/hybridtheoryepcover.jpg)
Hybrid Theory EP
1999
1. Carousel
2. Technique
3. Step Up
4. And One
5. High Voltage
6. Part Of Me
(Bonus track)
This isn't Linkin Park's debut album, Hybrid Theory. This is the EP they released in 1999 before they became Linkin Park, when they were known as Hybrid Theory.
It starts off with 'Carousel', which is a paint peeling track. It uses pretty much all the aspects of Linkin Park in one assualt. Starting with a sample, then some rapping from Mike, then come Chesters paint peeling vocals. Chester sounds particularly fierce in this track, especially with the guitars which have a dowtuned distorted sound similar to KoRn. Also we get a turntable drum fill in the middle mixed in, and the samples are re-used too, it's a very well crafted song, and clool opener.
Next is 'Technique', it's very short at less than a minute, and it's a turntable song. It's kinda simlar to 'Cure For The Itch' and 'Session', and I really love the strings on this track. Then we get 'Step Up', this is a pure hip hop track, but with punchy guitars too. I really love this track, despite Chester not being in it. Some very awesome samples and turntabling too.
'And One' is a really cool Linkin Park song, nice sounds, and Chester is back. Then it's 'Hi Voltage' which many people will know either as a b-side, or remixed on 'Reanimation'. It's another clool hip hop track. And then to end it is 'Part of Me', my persoanl fave track on the EP. It's one of the longest Linkin Park songs, but IMO, one of the best. Mike and Chester are great, and it's just a really solid track. I love the way the opening is used to end the track too, and the whole atmosphere of the track.
I've never heard the bonus track, because unfortunately I don't own this EP. I've tried looking on ebay, but it's really rare and hard to find, and everyone time I find one the seller will only ship to the US, so I'm boned. But I'd be willing to pay a lot for this CD and I'll keep looking. I haven't heard the bonus track though because there's no name for me to look for.
But anyway, I love this EP, and the more I listen to it, the more I start thinking this could even be better than their albums :)
9/10
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I'll have to listen to it then.
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the mars volta - de-loused in the comatorium
released: 2003
label: gold standard laboratories / universal
total playtime: 60:51
rating: 10/10 - classic
track list:
1. son et lumiere
2. inertiatic esp
3. roulette dares (the haunt of)
4. tira me a las arañas
5. drunkship of lanterns
6. eriatarka
7. cicatriz esp
8. this apparatus must be unearthed
9. televators
10. take the veil cerpin taxt
after at the drive-in broke up, two new bands were formed. one, sparta, consisting of the non-afro-section of at the drive-in, quickly released a very good but rather conventional rock album. the other part, cedric and omar, took their time. but now they're here, with the mars volta's first full album and this might just be the best album of the year.
de-loused in the comatorium tells the story of a young man, cerpin taxt, who falls into a coma. the album describes what he experiences during that coma. but after he comes out of the coma, he decides to take his life anyway.
this story is first of all true, the whole album is a tribute to julio venegas, who was a very close friend of cedric and omar. and just like in a good story, there is no real break in the album. all songs fade into each other, very extreme examples are son et lumiere and inertiatic esp and tira me a las arañas and drunkship of lanterns which can't be really told apart at all.
the whole album creates a universe on its own and destroys it again within seconds. every song creates huge worlds of sound which can suddenly disappear, and then slowly fade in again. jeremy ward, mars volta's sound engineer who recently passed away creates walls of sound which have probably never been there like that before. cedric's voice is somewhere in the area between anger and sadness, desperation and hope. it's hard to describe, you have to listen to it. omar playing the guitar is just too awesome to describe. i do have the impression that this guy is actually moving his fingers faster than light.
musicially, the record offers lots of diversity. from pink-floyd-ish elements to the samba rhythm in drunkship of lanterns which will later culminate in something that comes very close to psychodelic hardcore (still based on a samba rhythm though) over led zeppelin style elements in inertiatic esp to breath-taking 2 minute+ guitar solos (omar and john frusciante, btw) in cicatriz esp, this record offers everything.
and suddenly, at the end of the record, the whole music stops immediately along with cedric's words "who brought me here". if this doesn't affect you, i don't know what will.
this album is actually too big to describe and i find it very hard to write a review about it. it's just too much. even after having listened to it pretty much non-stop for the past few days, i can't say i know only a single song remotely by heart. these songs offer so much depth it's just overwhelming.
this word is also what probably comes closest to the description of the album itself: overwhelming. this is no elevator-background music, that's for sure. this is probably one of the most important pieces of music in the next 10 years.
i'm not able to pick a song as a highlight, because all songs are very good and because, as already mentioned, they all fade into each other anyway.
therefore, this album truely deserves: 10/10 - i'ld say 11/10, but that's not possible...
line-up: omar rodrigues-lopez, cedric bixler-zavala, jon theodore, jeremy micheal ward, flea (yes, that flea from red hot chili peppers), ikey isaiah owens.
producer: rick rubin.
related links: the mars volta.com (http://www.themarsvolta.com) - offers streaming of drunkship of lanterns
note: my rating is not too much. so far, i haven't read one single only remotely negative review of this record. i think it was rolling stone who called it "the wall of the 21st century".
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I would just like to say that I agree 100 percent with Spiff's review of De-Loused in the Comatorium. Personally, I feel that it's almost impossible to describe like a "normal" "rock" record -- you will have to buy it and listen to it. Don't just download it, because I imagine that it'll lose part of its mystique if you do. Buy this record. I found it for $9.99 at a Tower Records, so it's out there and its worth it.
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Ah, I just got 2 new CD'S.
First one: TRAPT
by trapt.
Released in 2003.
Rating: A-
These guys have got a future, I'll tell you that. The early tracks are the best, but every song is really good. My favorite is "Headstrong"- best guitars and really good vocals in that one. The drumming needs more work, but these guys are just starting out.
Meteroa
by Linkin Park
Released: 2003
Rating: A
Holy crap, best yet! Best guitar playing in this one, vocals are awesome and the drums are really good too. It includes a giant booklet filled with photos and lyrics and band info, and a clip- 'The Art Of Meteroa". Great job, guys!
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The Mars Volta were playing Witness (Irelands Glastonbury) at the weekend here but I wasn't there to see em!! :(
Also, there were 24 bands starting with "The"!!
Enough is enough, I know there's a band called The The's, now somebody should make a band with "The" on the end!!
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(http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/drd800/d825/d82515w74d3.jpg)
Alice in Chains
1995
1. Grind
2. Brush Away
3. Sludge Factory
4. Heaven Beside You
5. Head Creeps
6. Again
7. Shame in You
8. God Am
9. So Close
10. Nothin' Song
11. Frogs
12. Over Now
This is AIC's third and final album, self titled 'Alice in Chains'. Also know as 'Tripod' by some fans, because it's their third album, hense the three legged dog on the cover, and 3 legged man on the back. Although it was their last album, they did manage to release 2 more songs in 1998, which sadly turned out to be their very last, because of Layne Staley's death last year.
I love everything AIC released, and many think that their second album 'Dirt' was their best. Although I love Dirt, I love this album equally, if not slightly more. I find it almost impossible to choose. But although all their albums are different, this has a very difined, and different sound and feeling, and mood to their previous two. After the vibrant Facelift, and drug battle on Dirt, this album has almost a sense of no hope. But yet despite the fact it has that feeling, it's hopless, they'll carry on anyway, and try finding new hope.
One of the biggest differences on this album is Layne's singing, instead of his shouting, and his loud powerful voclas on the previous two albums, on this album the singing is very mellow. He only raises his voice once slightly at the end of 'Again', but the fact this album was even made was a miracle giving his ill health. But I really love the vocal change, and Jerry Cantrell does a lot of helping out too. It's kinda sad that Layne can't really use the power in his voice, but what I love on this album is that the vocals still have a lot of power, even without shouting. They're very harmonic, and mesmorising, and the sludgy guitars contrast to them beautifully.
I love every track on this album, when I first got it I wasn't so keen on 'Frogs', but now I love them all, and as an album they all work togather brilliantly. First off is 'Grind', very bleak lyrics "In The Darkest Hole, you'd be well advised, not to plan my funeral, before the body dies", but the guitars give this track a sense of hope. Jerrys guitar playing is outstanding throughout this album.
Next is 'Brush Away', a very atmospheric song, but very clool too. And then 'Sludge Factory', and that's a really fitting title because wow the guitars are so sludgy on this track, I love them. Also, Near the end there's a lot out of tune guitar playing, but never have I heard before such guitar playing like this that actually worked, and sounds so awesome.
'Heaven Beside You' is next, my fave track on the album. Such a well crafted song, the guitars are really bluesy, but change a lot throughout. A real sense of loss of hope, but carrying on anyway. Then comes 'Head Creeps', a very dark brutal song, and some very tuanting low bass. The drumming on this track is class.
'Again' follows, a really catchy song, simple, but nice riff. Then a slow track 'Shame in You'. It really sticks in my mind, and the way it ends with a different guitar riff, yet fits so seamlessly well is great. 'God Am' follows, a pretty neat track, interesting lyrics. 'So Close' is next, the shortest track on the album. It's pretty fast, but still powerful.
'Nothin' Song' has such an awesome structure. Very hard guitars, and the main riff is so unique. Clool lyrics too "This Nothin' song sticks to your mouth like peanut butter to the brain". Then comes 'Frogs', I wasn't so keen on this track at first, but it grows on you and becomes an essential part of the album. I love the little subtle noises at the beginning, that end it too. It's a very down and depressing track, also very long too, but the guitars hold it through and together, and the lyrical hook.
Last but not least, it's 'Over Now', sadly a fitting title for their last album. I love this track, it's a lot more up beat than frogs, nice contrast. It still has the AIC atmosphere, but the hope is gained at the end of the album. the only sad thing is that Jerry does most of the singing, possibly because Layne didn't have any effort left. But excellently crafted, AIC sure know how to craft their songs and hooks. The guitars are really unusual, Jerry gets a great destinctive sound on this track, awesome ending.
And there you have it, the final AIC album. Different to their other stuff, but just as awesome, if not even better.
9.5/10
(http://www.slantmagazine.com/images/features/laynestaley.jpg)
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As a newbie here, I thought I would add my thoughts.
My favourite band is Slayer. The undisputed gods of thrash metal. Choosing an album is pretty hard but I have to go with the legendary Reign In Blood.
Tracklist
Angel Of Death
Piece By Piece
Necrophobic
Altar Of Sacrifice
Jesus Saves
Criminally Insane
Reborn
Epidemic
Postmortem
Raining Blood
The album was released in 1986 and was produced by Rick Rubin who has also done albums for artists such as the Beastie Boys and Red Hot Chili Peppers.
My favourite track is the final one, Raining Blood. It has a really cool intro which then leads to an onsluaght of extreme heaviness. The album only lasts for about half an hour. The first and last tracks are about 5 minutes. The rest are bursts of speed and fury which usually last from 2-3 minutes.
Other tracks I like are Angel Of Death, Altar Of Sacrifice, Jesus Saves, Criminally Insane and Postmortem.
Another great thing about this band are that they kick ass live. They are one of the tightest playing band I've ever seen. Seeing them live is a wonderful experience. I've even briefly met the band at a manic instore apperance in London last year. I've also seen them live 3 times and intend to see many more shows.
I've also noticed quite a few posts about Metallica. I think St Anger was disappointing. Not as bad as I thought it would be but it's far from being the highlight of 2003. If you want a good metal album, I recommend the new Sepultura and Anthrax or the new albums from The Haunted and Lamb Of God.
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^ Reign In Blood is The Benchmark album that all Thrash and even some Death/Black albums have been gauged against. released in 1986, it still sounds as brutal and unrelenting as ever. 29 minutes of sheer devistation. It effectively keeps all NU Metal Jockrock, Rapcore posers "Trapped In Purgatory" Seen 'em live 5 times, Jeff has since become a friend, (he seen my band and commented on my playing \m/) . Hell Fuck Yeah...Slayer Owns. Two Horns UP!!!!!!!!!!
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Damn right! I saw them in London two weeks ago and they played the whole RIB album as an encore! I also heard The Antichrist and Haunting The Chapel which I missed last time I saw them because they played those the night afterwards. ( They did two nights in London last year and also this year).
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Death - Human
Released 1991
Flattening of Emotions
Suicide Machine
Together as One
Secret Face
Lack of Comprehension
See Through Dreams
Cosmic Sea
Vacant Planets
This was the fourth album from this band. For this album, frontman Chuck Schuldiner changed the line-up once again ( The band's line-up changed with each album. Chuck was the only member who is on all the albums ).
On drums was Sean Reinert, Paul Masvidal did guitars and Steve Digiorgio handled bass.
Sean and Paul later joined Cynic while Steve went on to join Bay Area thrashers Testament.
The music, as with every other Death album, is quite brutal but also incorporates melody at the same time. The track Lack Of Comprehension is a case in point. It starts with an excellent melodic intro before giving away to the band's trademark brutality and Chuck's harsh vocals. Other tracks I like are
Flattening Of Emotions, Suicide Machine, Together As One and See Through Dreams.
Another good one is 1988's Leprosy which is more brutal then Human and has less melody.
Top picks from that are the title track, Born Dead and Pull The Plug.
Sadly, the band is no more. Chuck passed away in December 2001 after a long battle with brain cancer. He was just 34. I was going to post an mp3 of Lack Of Comprehension but I'm not sure how to do it. Any help would be appreciated.
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Originally posted by bart182:
Deftones - Deftones [2003]
If you can handle something new that the deftones haven't done before, get this album. But don’t judge it on the first listen, cause if you don’t really pay attention to the uniqueness of this album, you might think it’s “meh” to begin with.
Nicely put. but i would have gave it an 9.5/10 though. (.5 taken off because no record is 'perfect')
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The Song I like at the moment is Satisfaction by Benny Benassi and it is in no2 in the charts right now. I thik this song is playing around clubs. The one thing I don't the song is the video to it. I think it very sexis and it's so unfair for the woman who don't have the body like a super model. The video show models in tiny bikni doing some DIY and shaking their stuff.
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Considering that I've spent most of my day listening to Galaxy FM (Dance & R&B *spits* Station in the UK), I can say without fear of contradiction, that I'm ready to ascend the church tower with my AK47 now. Fucking townie music, driving in their overly plasticised cars blasting this shite from sub-woofer speakers which take up the entire space in their boot - and there's not a brain-cell between any of 'em.
Believe me, it's the only time I believe in mass-genocide.
Did I overreact?
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
Considering that I've spent most of my day listening to Galaxy FM (Dance & R&B *spits* Station in the UK), I can say without fear of contradiction, that I'm ready to ascend the church tower with my AK47 now. Fucking townie music, driving in their overly plasticised cars blasting this shite from sub-woofer speakers which take up the entire space in their boot - and there's not a brain-cell between any of 'em.
Believe me, it's the only time I believe in mass-genocide.
Did I overreact?
You didn't over react! I never listen to Galaxy FM, it's just...repeative music and drives me nuts. Down with townie music!!
I heard today that thugs ruined a upcoming musician's career by cutting off 3 of his fingers :(
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Bastards! Fucking bastards! :mad:
I'd like to add that I've been covering at work today, so didn't have any choice on the music I listened to. Needless to say that I've got this nervous tick now.
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I truly recommend the death cab for a cutie song "for what reason"
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I have it on good authority that the new Janes Addiction album is worth buying, and if the single "Just Because" is anything to go by, I'd agree. It's one of my favourite songs of the moment.
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I've heard of Jane's Addiction, but I don't know much about them. How long have they been around?
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A long long time.
By the way has anyone reviewed an album and said "Yeah it's fucking shite. Not even dignifiable enough for a coffee coaster" or do we not admit to those?
I'd just like to say for the record that FOPP is the best shop in the whole wide world. I got Dookie, Appetite for Destruction [GnR], Definately Maybe [Oasis], and Smash Htis [Hendrix and co.] for £20. That one shop got more money from me in 3 days than any other music shop has this year. And they say cheap CDs don't make a profit.
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This Thread is the greatest!
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Ok...Here's the other side of the coin...
Thyrane - Hypnotic
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00009MGGR.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
2003 Spinefarm/Century Media
Playtime - 50:47
Tracklist:
1. Human Weed
2. Firework
3. Glamorama De Mystified
4. Dance In The Air
5. Armaya
6. The Symptomatic
7. Phantasmal Paranoia
8. Sickening
9. Of Suns and Flames
10. Heretic Hunt
Having eagerly awaited the follow up to their absolutley fucking devestating album "Spirit of Rebellion" for almost three years. I was pleased as punch to see "Hypnotic" on my local Metal Shop's new arrival shelf. The fisrt warning sign to me was the cover art. Bland scorpion and a oh so modern typeface. Not being one to judge a book by it's cover, I gleefully plunked down my hard earned munny and repaired to my lair to cranketh the tunage.
Before I get to the review proper, I'll talk a little about their previous effort. "The Spirit of Rebellion" is a top notch, tumultuous, blackened death metal album. Rates right up there in my opinion, with the masters of the subgenre. I'd stack it up next to Dissection - Storm Of The Lights Bane and At The Gates - Slaughter of the Soul. Spirit had killer riffage, breakneck pace and outstanding drumming, as a matter of fact Blastmor is/was one of metal's most underrated drummers. He has very unique style with the double kick, and actually makes walking double kick lines much like a bass player would do.
Now onto Hypnotic. I looked at the liner notes and noticed they added a keyboard player. Warning sign number two. I flipped the disc into my player and received an aural kick to the nads. What the fuck is this?, I asked the empty room. Upon first playing, I actually removed the disc from my player to make sure it was infact Thyrane. Sadly it was. Gone is the elite riffage and god hating lyrics. Gone is the singature drum style and killer whiplash inducing pace. In it's place is crappy overproduced Rammstein like chuga chuga riffs, and boring keyboard heavy mid tempo song structures. I was and still am angry. Thyrane let me down. They have entered the pantheon of the semi-industrial electronic false metal crappenfest. What the hell happened? I was so taken with this Finnish Trio's sound on their last album, I emailed them at their old website and got a reply from Avather, their guitarist, thanking me for the kind words. I visited their new site and was faced with the "We hope you like the new direction we have taken" type thing. Well, I DO NOT.
The songs are weak and the keyboards are way up front in the mix. The drumming is a mere shadow of it's former self with only very brief vestiges of that walking double kick. The guitars are big, but slow and cumbersome. Like he's playing while wearing boxing gloves. The boring blips and bleeps from the totally lacklustre (but very foxxy) keyboard player just adds to my outrage. She is not a good player, and must be Blastmor's girlfriend. "Sure baby, you can be on the record" Bah!
Not that there's anything wrong with industrial metal. There are great examples of that sound like, The Kovenant - Animatronic, ...and oceans - A.M.G.O.D, and Aborym - Kali Yuga Bizzarre. All great representations of electronic influenced extreme metal. Why the hell they took that Rammstein/Ministry road to boredom and disdain, I'll never know.
The only thing preventing me from flinging this frisbee onto my neigbours roof, is the few bucks I'll get for it on trade in. Cuz, that's where it's headed.
3/10 Abysmal. They put the "not" in Hypnotic. :cry: I want Thyrane back.
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Originally posted by Impossible:
I've heard of Jane's Addiction, but I don't know much about them. How long have they been around?
A while (like Archie said). Their most famous song is "Been Caught Stealing", you'll know it if you heard it.
They split a few years back and recently reformed. Lead singer, Perry Farrell, creator of the "Lollapalooza" Tour in America, formed Porno For Pyro's, while guitarist Dave Navarro joined the Red Hot Chili Peppers for one album ("One Hot Minute" ). I caught Janes Addiction at Leeds Festival last year and was one of the best sets of the weekend.
Stick by any of the alternative music channels (or Radio One, who've playlisted them) to hear new single "Just Because". My mate, Matt, mailed me to say the album's "the best thing he's heard in ages".
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Cool :) Thanks Archie & Melll :D
Oh yeah I found this link the other day:
Girl commits suicide to Good Charlotte song (http://gccirclepitt.com/magscans/suicidesong.jpg)
Can song lyrics really make a person do that?
In other, Impy-related news, my mum got 2 tickets to go and see The Three Tenors in concert in Bath. I may be going with her to seem them, and the tickets were free :cool:
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Impossible:
"Girl commits suicide to Good Charlotte song"
Can song lyrics really make a person do that?
Well, I knew Good Charlotte were shit, but so shit you'd kill yourself??
Maybe if someone's depressed and there are lots of mentions of suicide around them, then they'd be pushed towards it more.
Like when Kurt Cobain killed himself, his marriage to The Evil Courtney Love was failing, and rather than get a divorce she wanted him dead so she'd inherit his money and keep leeching off of his fame, so kept mentioning suicide a lot. And that's why he killed himself.
Allegedly. :hmpf:
Or maybe Americans are just naturally a bit screwy.
Or this is a Good Charlotte publicity stunt.
Or she was accidentally listening to that 'suicide song' by Ozzy Osbourne.
Or that Hungarian suicide song.
Or Radiohead (where every song is a suicide song!).
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i read the story and it sounds kinda strange...maybe there was other reason of her suicide?
i can understand suicide but, i can't understand suicide because of some crappy song :p
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I'm familiar with the Blink 182 song mentioned - "Adam's Song." I personally think that song is anti-suicide.
The choice was mine I didn't think enough
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You'll be sorry when I'm gone
I never conquered, rarely came
16 just held such better days
Days when I still felt alive...
I never thought I'd die alone
The Good Charlotte song's lyrics contain:
I swear the happiest day of my life
Is the day that I die...
Can you feel the cold tonight?
It sets, but it's alright
Darkness falls, I'm letting go.
They have a different tone to me.
(Off-Topic though this may be a good new thread: I would have Enya's "Book of Days (Far and Away)" played at my funeral over anything else.)
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I've always hated Good Charlotte.. now look! But nobody listens to me!
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Originally posted by Impossible:
Oh yeah I found this link the other day:
Girl commits suicide to Good Charlotte song (http://gccirclepitt.com/magscans/suicidesong.jpg)
Can song lyrics really make a person do that?
Was going to reply to this yesterday but never got chance, and maybe this deserves a thread of it's own.
Like Ozzy's "Suicide Solution", songs about suicide, depression, don't make you want to kill yourself. You would have to want to do that before you listen to the song.
I listen to Joy Division, and I'm fine, I've listened to "Adam's Song" many times, and I'm still alive. I object to the myth that anything people listen to or watch, can be "dangerous" to the viewer/listener. One would have to be in that frame of mind to begin with to do it, not the song on it's own would make anyone commit suicide.
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I've just read that article that Impy posted. Interesting stuff, but I do think there has to have been some other motive behind her commiting suicide. Like Melll said, you'd have to be in that frame of mind and have to want to kill yourself first before listening to the song.
Maybe she was a lot more unhappy deep down than her parents realise. In that article her parents percieved her as being happy and called her their 'princess'. Maybe she was unhappy inside but felt she couldn't talk to her parents because they had such high expectations of or her or something. She seemed a bit sheltered actually. Yet it took her to listen to a Good Charlotte song to push her over the edge. Woah, she must have been bad, I mean come on, its Good Charlotte for crying out loud, they suck! ;)
Still, that said, its still tragic that someone has taken their life.
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Cynical though it may be, the blame should be directed squarely at the parents. Fact.
The problem I have with this kind of argument is that the nimbies who decry bands for so-called "questionable subject-matter" in their songs, never consider this:
"Why would a band want their audience dead?"
I mean, really. :rolleyes:
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OK here is a fact. To get me into a fit of depression is so easy people do it without even realising. My boss did it to me recently by saying that taking Prozac isn't normal. What do I turn this into? I'm a fucked up mental case who is going to die lonely because everyone thinks I am a screwed up psycho*.
Someone who isn't straight in the head can turn almost any set of words around in their head to a point where they hate their life. You can't blame bands for doing that.
Personally the watered down pop shite depresses me more. Lyrics about meating your honeys down the local bar and going for some sweet lovin' make me think I'm ugly and never going to get married ever and die lonely*, so let's ban all pop music full stop.
Fact is people with mental problems have problems with themself which need to be addressed, not their music tastes which 99.9% of people will listen to with no ill effects.
* - I don't think this all the time, only when I'm already depressed for whatever reason. Said words act as a catalyst.
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It all depends on how high profile the murderous band in question is. Judas Priest and Ozzy Osbourne were blamed for inciting suicides in the 80's.
There is a Finnish band called Sentenced. Their last three albums have been 100% concerned with suicide. The bodies would be stacked up like cordwood if Sentenced's lyrics were solely responsible for kicking mopey teens through the goal posts of oblivion.
People are always looking for something to blame. I blame bad parenting and an unbearable home life for most teen suicides. To a lesser extent, bad relationships and "peer" issues like bullying, teasing etc. It sure isn't Good Charlotte lyrics.
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Originally posted by Spice Weasel:
It all depends on how high profile the murderous band in question is. Judas Priest and Ozzy Osbourne were blamed for inciting suicides in the 80's.
There is a Finnish band called Sentenced. Their last three albums have been 100% concerned with suicide. The bodies would be stacked up like cordwood if Sentenced's lyrics were solely responsible for kicking mopey teens through the goal posts of oblivion.
People are always looking for something to blame. I blame bad parenting and an unbearable home life for most teen suicides. To a lesser extent, bad relationships and "peer" issues like bullying, teasing etc. It sure isn't Good Charlotte lyrics.
yeah i agree but there's something we dont know about music. waves. waves can affect people organism and brain in a very very interesting way. i heard that people cant't tolerate 7(?)Ghz. and there're other effects. some criminals use music and crowd to tell things. i dont really know much about that stuff but i know that someone used special music and clapping to make some sort of waves effect. when sientists looked careful at that record they heard 'key-words' (commands). so people were listening to some music and clapping but at the same time they got commands. so music CAN effect human brain. but of course i doubt bands like blink and GC would use it...
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Yeah! Remember that episode of "Saved By The Bell" where Zack uses hidden messages in songs to make girls like him?!! Me neither.
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the plan - only these movements remain
released: 2001
label: matlock records / rewika records
total playtime:: 40:35
tracklist:
1. lit like a monument
2. the new occupation
3. let's hear it for our school orchestra
4. signal and sequence
5. man vs. midi
6. the elements of style
7. brushes held like hammers
8. missive
9. motion = heat
from halifax, nova scotia comes the plan. first founded as a side-project of michael catano of north of america and mackenzie ogilvie of led by regret and equation of state this band soon turned out to be more than your average side-project. so two other members were found and the plan was ready to go.
after the first listen, most people will be left confused. only these movements remain is a grade a mindfuck featuring many different musicial styles, ranging from north of america-style math- and noise-core to jazz-ish parts.
the record starts with a lonely noise-guitar intro. but soon lit like a monument develops into a mean noise-core beast. as in most songs of the album, the most notable instrument at first is the bass. it plays the core melody, it keeps the structure of the song together. the guitars are busy playing dischordal riffs and strange rhythm patterns with lots of the help from the drums on the last one. add to that two guys screaming at each other (sometimes at the same time but different lyrics) and you're there. the new occupation starts with a nice feedback and then unfolds into a solid sound wall which somehow sounds as if the microphones recording that song stood several meters away from the instruments. this makes the song sound very interesting - that is, once you got used to it.
let's hear it for our school orchestra is one of my favorite songs on this album, featuring aggressive and dischordal parts but also some trumpet sounds (although dischordal trumpet playing, i might add). rhythm changes and screaming complete this song. then, after two more rather similar songs, there's suddenly a break. elements of style is a very laid-back, almost jazzy song and it's damn good. followed by two harder songs again, the album ends with the calm and jazzy motion = heat.
if somebody has managed to listen to this musicial mayhem, he has discovered a small world of very weird but good and capturing music. apart from the usual instruments (guitar, drums, bass), he will have also encountered vibraphones, cellos and trumpets, noise samples and some other stuff.
the plan delivers a record which will probably appeal to nobody on this message board (apart from me). people who like hardcore will miss the stereotypical tuned-down-several-octaves-guitars, people who like math rock will be irritated by the jazzy and the harder songs like the new occupation and so on.
but this mixture is it what makes this record great. compared to the musicial innovation delivered by, let's say, linkin park on their last record, only these movements remain should deserve a 10/10. but this record isn't perfect, so it will be 9/10 on my scale.
rating: 9/10
line-up: david harrison, lance purcell, mackenzie ogilvie, michael catano. the band is now defunct, btw.
related links: two songs at rewika (http://www.rewika.com) (elements of style (http://www.rewika.de/mp3/the_plan-06-the_elements_of_style.mp3) and motion = heat (http://www.rewika.de/mp3/the_plan-09-motion_%3D_heat.mp3)), one song at matlock records (http://www.matolocrecords.com) (lit like a monument (http://www.matlockrecords.com/audio/The_PLAN_-_Lit_Like_A_Monument.mp3)).
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More new stuff to check out:
If you've seen the Nokia MP3 Phone advert (with the roadie) in the UK, you will have heard the wicked new song by 'A' - "Good Time".
Oh, and if you like hardcore metal, check out my mates Dan and Gaz's band RSJ (http://www.rsj.info/), the site has MP3's to download (I recommend "Snort The Flame" ), they're York's best local band, and we're gigging with them on Thursday this week.
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Originally posted by Metdude:
Death - Human
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reminds me of something: i saw a video of death playing live at a festival. the song was called "spirit crusher".
and let me say this: boy, they sucked. not the music itself, the song was your usual metal-stuff with some rhythm changes and some long solos. but their live performance sucked. the song was at least 6 minutes long and the complete time, not a single member of the band moved only a meter. and the stage was huge.
whatever happened to the good old jump-around-on-stage-'till-you-drop-kind of show?
this is not aimed at death in particular, they just reminded me. lots of bands of all genres nowadays stand on stage as if they were glued to the ground. and it sucks.
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i don't have low self-esteem. i have low esteem for everyone else.
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There are a few metal bands that I'm "supposed to like" but just hate them, everything they've put out I just can't get into.
The bands: Type-O-Negative and Cradle Of Filth.
Never ever try to sell these bands to me, I'll just stop listening, not interested.
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yeah, i agree with melllvar there. friends sometimes come up to me, telling me "you gotta listen to this, you'll like it" and then it turns out to be growl-metal. i hate growl-metal. so my task usually is to tell them in a diplomatical way that this music sucks.
anyway, while i like metal i somehow can't really relate to it and i don't own a single metal record. somehow, metal just doesn't fit. if i want complex arrangements i'll listen to mars volta or similar stuff, if i want aggressive and brutal music i'll listen to hardcore(-ish) bands like at the drive-in or shikari (i'll review their album later on, maybe tonight if i can be bothered).
plus i like stuff that delivers a grade a mindfuck (and that some of my friends don't like. comments along the lines of "do they actually tune their guitars?" are normal...) and even though you often have complex metal songs, i find it rather easy to follow them.
but i'ld prefer good metal to any hip hop or pop any day.
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Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff:
yeah, i agree with melllvar there. friends sometimes come up to me, telling me "you gotta listen to this, you'll like it" and then it turns out to be growl-metal. i hate growl-metal. so my task usually is to tell them in a diplomatical way that this music sucks.
...and they look oh so incredulous when you tell them that, "but, this is your music!". Typical reaction of a philistine ("all rock music is the same" ).
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
...and they look oh so incredulous when you tell them that, "but, this is your music!". Typical reaction of a philistine ("all rock music is the same" ).
exactly. this is why subgenres were invented, i guess. my problem is: i think those subgenres are stupid. especially after i read that at the drive-in is post-hardcore. great name, really.
and how do you classify the mars volta anyway?
solution: don't talk to philistines. ;)
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Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff:
and how do you classify the mars volta anyway?
Post-post-quantumphysics-core?
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Neo-savant mathrock? Dillenger Escape Plan lite?
Subgenres are frustrating, yet somewhat of a necessary pain in the ass.
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Cave-In - Antenna
Track Listing:
1. Stained Silver
2. Inspire
3. Joy Opposites
4. Anchor
5. Beautiful Son
6. Seafrost
7. Rubber and Glue
8. Youth Overrided
9. Breath of Water
10. Lost in the Air
11. Penny Racer
12. Woodwork
Antenna is, to my knowledge, the major label debut of nu-hardcore rockers Cave-In. Featured on this year's Lollapallooza, Cave-In is one of the classic "young bands to watch."
First off, this is not the band's first record. Antenna is very polished and its completely obvious that these are the 'best of the best' from their previous indie discs. While, naturally, this is a good thing, it also gives the C.D. a problem -- sometimes (espically in hardcore) -- polished isn't always the best.
Melodic hardcore.
The first highlight of the disc is track 2, "Inspire." Catchy, lyrically sound, and self-containing, "Inspire" could make a catchy single for modern-rock radio. Next of note is the back-to-back "Anchor" and "Beautiful Son." These two songs are perhaps the high-water point of Antenna. That's not to say it peters out after track 5, but these two are the songs that you should "check out" if you're interested in Cave-In.
To put it best, Antenna is like a bell curve. The high point is track 5, then there are a few good songs afterwards, and then it just gets "okay."
Still, I recommend checking it out if you're in the mood for something new. Plus, I found it pretty cheap at a major record store.
Total: B
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SpacemanSpif, you raise some good points. Personally, I don't like growl vocals either which is what puts me off nearly all death metal and black metal. I prefer thrash which has vocals which are more easier to understand. Apart from Death, the only death metal bands I listen to are Morbid Angel, Entombed and ( this really applies to their earlier material ) Fear Factory. The reason I listen to them is that, unlike most death metal, I feel that they have more to offer since I consider much of the sub-genre to be one-dimensional.
Not sure if I would call At The Drive-In hardcore. If you want hardcore, check out Biohazard or Agnostic Front. As for bands who just stand still the whole time, Anthrax and Iron Maiden are two examples of bands who aren't static throughout their whole performance.
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Just wanna post that I bought The Mars Volta's album (De-loused In The Comatorium) this week, so went back to read Spiff's review. I've been unable to listen to the other album I bought (Jane's Addiction - "Strays" ) because this has hooked me so much.
I do a 30 mile drive through the country on my way to work, and this has provided the soundtrack to that journey. I felt that the sound was harking back to Meddle-Era Pink Floyd (albeit, with a dark album reminiscant of The Wall), and late 60's Santana (not the current version) mixed with Cedric's falsetto vocals, made me think I was listening to Rush's 2112 - or other "concept" albums from the time.
They shouldn't be making albums like this any more, but they are, and that's good.
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Robbie Williams - Sing When You're Winning
2000
1. Let Love Be You Energy
2. Better Man
3. Rock DJ
4. Supreme
5. Kids
6. If It's Hurting You
7. Singing For The Lonely
8. Love Calling Earth
9. Knutsford City Limits
10. Forever Texas
11. By All Means Necessary
12. The Road To Mandalay
Let me start by saying this album, just like any other Robbie Williams album, is utter shit. Luckily I haven't heard the whole thing, and to be honest I hope I never do. But the tracks I've been forced to listen to, through spoon fed society totally suck. Tracks like 'Rock DJ', he even admitted it himself that the lyrics don't even make any sense. But it doesn't matter how good, piss-poor (in Robbies case) the song is, I'll always hate it if it's got Blobbies.. ooops, I mean Robbies voice tarnished on it.
Also, I mean, look how self indulgant the cover for this album is, does he love himself or what? It's like a mini horror picture, 5 Robbies, AAAAAAAAHHHHH!!! ;) Also, he seems to put a whole album of crap out every year. I don't keep track, but how many albums does this guy crap out? And it shows in the music. It should be called, 'Sing for the Money'. And also, did mention how crap this album is?
0.5/10 ,because it makes a nice coaster ;)
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I don't think I've ever heard a Robbie Williams song. After reading the review, I'm glad.
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Oh, to live in a society untouched by Robbie Williams. It'd be like, some kind of Utopia.
My wife, is a huge fan (reason to hate, No.1) and says that he's such a funny guy, who has this brilliant self-deprocating wit and simply loves to take the piss out of himself. What utter crap, he's a pompous, self-important scumsucking worm, obviously quite rightly given 80 million dollars to suck satan's cock, so we see his smug, pseudo-cheeky chappy face everywhere I lay my eyes (reasons to hate, No's 2 thru 200).
Coming soon, the Robbie voodoo doll (pins sold seperately).
Oh, his music sucks too.
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He was given 80 million dollars?
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The renewal of his EMI contract was 80 million dollars (or pounds, which is even more), with the main objective being: To crack America.
I don't see him being the global superstar that that kind of figure deserves, so I guess they'll probably "renegotiate".
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Haven't heard hide nor hair of him here, yet. Yes, he'd better renegotiate. Buy a baseball cap, wear it backwards and hope, hope, hope.
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Don't get too excited. I wrote this review of 'Fallen' for a publication a few weeks back, and it reminded me of you guys. I trust you're all well. Bye...
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The genesis of Evanescence
*Deep within the bowels of Sony Music's secret underground lair*
Steve: "Gee Bob, we really need to come up with something to boost our flagging profits...”
Bob: "Steve, we made over 6 billion dollars off the back of our signed artists last year alone, I mean, we're only paying these guys 2 cents in a dollar for their work. Do you think maybe there's such thing as too much profit..?"
*Steve stares blankly at Bob*
Steve: "...I'm not sure I'm following you..."
Steve: "Anyway... what's our biggest market? The baby-boomers, right? Why don't we get Bruce Springsteen and Jim Morrison in to do a whole heap of Hendrix covers with some non-offensive singer-songwriter? Say, see what Nora Jones is up to...”
Bob: "Morrison has been dead for 30 years...”
Steve: "Really? I thought that was Dylan? He's dead too, right..?"
Bob: "No...”
Steve: "Don't look at me like that. I'm a record executive, Bob, there's nothing in my job description about having to know anything about music.. Now, do you like my idea or not?"
Bob: "Actually, according to my statistics, our biggest market right now is..."
Steve: "..Gen-Xers..? Cos' we can get Evan Dando in here anytime, I know his dealer.."
Bob: "...12 year-olds."
Steve: "12 year-olds..? I don't remember having that much disposable income when I was 12..."
Bob: "That's the thing; it's not actually their money. They mooch off their guilt-tripped parents, who are too busy working 14-hour-a-day executive jobs to actually spend time with their kids. The kids are basically raised by MTV and Nintendo to be perfect consumers. It's a beautiful thing, it really is...”
Steve: "Kind of like how we use FOX News and Reality TV to turn adults into mindless republicans..?"
Bob: "Exactly."
Steve: "Well that's great and all, but won't these kids just grow up into P2P-using university students? I mean, those bastards cost me a fifth yacht last year through their outright theft of our property."
Bob: "Well, actually the truth is, the downturn in profits we experienced last year was more likely caused by a number of factors, including the slowing of the economy, the over-pricing of CDs and competition from DVDs. We just towed the illegal file-sharing line in order to get that old red-neck senator to draft legislation allowing us to arrest school kids... "
Steve: "I love my job..."
Bob: "As do I, Steve, as do I."
Steve: "So, these 12 year-olds, we can just grab some half-naked, blonde teenagers, teach 'em to dance and slap some pre-written lyrics candied up in Pro-Tools over the top and sell it to them, right..? That last bit even worked for Courtney Love.."
Bob: "I'm afraid not, Steve. That old cash-cow just doesn't cut it anymore. It seems they want something 'edgier'. We've already had to get Christina Aguilera to pose nude in People, but even that only half worked. We've found that it works better to still make use of some easily-manufactured, radio-friendly pop group, but to disguise them as somehow being underground and alternative at the same time. It works a treat. You just have to get them to keep up the charade around inquisitive music journalists though.."
Steve: "So, kind of like how we got Avril Lavigne to hold that guitar in her video clip and tell people she wrote her own music..?"
Bob: "That's exactly what I'm talking about."
Steve: "Wow. So, what works on these kids? I really need that yacht.."
Bob: "Well, according to our sales charts, our biggest success in this market has been Linkin Park.."
Steve: "I see. What do they do..?"
Bob: "Well, it's simple, really. You have this effeminate guy with multiple piercings screaming out angsty lyrics over grossly over-driven guitar noise (digitally cleaned up to make it pop-friendly), combined with a spiky-haired, ethnic-looking guy rapping over the top. Oh, and there are also some DJs."
Steve: "So what you're saying is, you have rap, angsty vocals, really loud guitars and DJs combined into one, easily marketable, MTV-friendly package..?"
Bob: "Yep."
Steve: "I.. think.. I may.. need a change of underwear..."
Bob: "You disgust me.."
*10 minutes later*
Steve: "So, this Linkin Park idea is great, lets do more of those, quick."
Bob: "The exact same thing..? Are you sure?"
Steve: "It worked with Bush and the Stone Temple Pilots, didn't it..?"
Bob: "Yeah, kind of, but..."
Steve: "What?"
Bob: "Well, it's just that Gavin Rossdale commandeered my guest-house and I can't get him to leave.."
Steve: "Oh. Well.. why don't we take the Linkin Park idea, but make it better.."
Bob: "How can we do that? It already contains statistically everything our lab-bred 12 year-olds find appealing in a band?"
Steve: "Wait!"
Bob: "What is it? What?!"
Steve: "What is the one thing that Viacom has pushed more than anything else, the one thing that young, American teenagers are taught by pop-culture to want more than anything else! The one thing Linkin Park doesn't have...?!"
Bob: "Oh my god.. boobies.."
Steve: "Yes!"
Bob: "I get it now! Linkin Park... with a GIRL!"
Steve: "We could rule the planet!"
Bob: "Steve, you're a genius.."
Steve: "Of course. Why else would they pay me $800,000 a year...?”
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
Like Ozzy's "Suicide Solution", songs about suicide, depression, don't make you want to kill yourself. You would have to want to do that before you listen to the song.
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One would have to be in that frame of mind to begin with to do it, not the song on it's own would make anyone commit suicide.
Like have you ever walked up to a cliff, and for the smallest fraction of a second, thought about just throwing yourself off? But if something comes along like an emotional song (and why would you sing about suicide in a positive way). Maybe you really didn't mean to. Plenty of times emotions make you do stuff you regret. Especially since in her case it seems like a slightly spontaneous occurance. I'd say blame goes 1) Friends who did nothing 2)Parents who found out too late 3)Band who wrote that song that pushed her over the edge. And #3 still gets plenty of blame. I mean, if it weren't for that song(s), would she still be alive today?
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A Perfect Circle - Mer de Noms
1. The Hollow
2. Magdalena
3. Rose
4. Judith
5. Orestes
6. 3 Libras
7. Sleeping Beauty
8. Thomas
9. Renholdër
10. Thinking of You
11. Breña
12. Over
This is Alternative Rock/Metal for the intelligent man. Individual songs don't sound like a desperate search for catchy guitar hooks, rather, the band knows they've got it, with ease, and they make you wait for it. It makes for suspenful music. Their sound I've heard compared to a mix of Nirvana and Tool.
Lyrically, singer Maynard James Keenan (hes finally joined that elite group of singers who sound the same in concert as they do on CD) sings mostly about philosophical/religious topics, on the liberal side. Ex, from Judith - "Fuck your god, your lord, your christ, he did this, took all you had and, left you this way, still you pray, never stray, never thought to question 'why'". The great thing about his lyrics is that they can be interpreted in so many ways, on so many levels.
All this combines to an album that grows on you with each listen, and music, which is not all about the catchy guitar riffs, that doens't get old any time soon.
P.S. Otis, this Bullet for Cinderella band definitley sounds intersting, but I can't seem to find their stuff anywhere. Any tips?
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Ben, you've become long winded and sarcastic.
Are you ok? :(
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Ben, don't be a stranger. Believe it or not, you're missed around here.
Originally posted by phat_slug:
Like have you ever walked up to a cliff, and for the smallest fraction of a second, thought about just throwing yourself off?
No, never.
But if something comes along like an emotional song (and why would you sing about suicide in a positive way). Maybe you really didn't mean to. Plenty of times emotions make you do stuff you regret. Especially since in her case it seems like a slightly spontaneous occurance. I'd say blame goes 1) Friends who did nothing 2)Parents who found out too late 3)Band who wrote that song that pushed her over the edge. And #3 still gets plenty of blame. I mean, if it weren't for that song(s), would she still be alive today?
Who knows?
What I object to, it that however far down the blame-list the music is (and I put it waaaaaaay down), it get's pushed to #1, usually by the parents who are too damn oblivious to see what the real problem inherant was (be it lack of parental attention, or peer pressure/bullying).
In other news: I agree with the Perfect Cirle review, it gets better with each listen, and Judith is a fantastic song.
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Originally posted by phat_slug:
P.S. Otis, this Bullet for Cinderella band definitley sounds intersting, but I can't seem to find their stuff anywhere. Any tips?
Since writing that review, GM saw it, and has kindly managed to find it for me. She found it in a specialist alternative record store. There was only 1 copy left though. Big stores like Virgin and HMV are unlikely to have it I'm affraid. But if you know of any specialist alternative record stores near you, you might be lucky :)
Also, here's a link to their record labels website, if you're interested. It's got a mini-bio on them, and I think you can order it off there if you to to the shop part at the top :) http://www.noiserecords.com/mindset/bio.html (http://www.noiserecords.com/mindset/bio.html)
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I wished you'd come here more often, Ben. I like what you said, except linkin park is good...yeah.
I dunno, shall I review for fallen? maybe, if i do i'll wait a while.
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Originally posted by Metdude:
Not sure if I would call At The Drive-In hardcore. If you want hardcore, check out Biohazard or Agnostic Front.
someone say hardcore?
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shikari - robot wars
released: 2000
label: deadlock records
total playtime: 13:44
track list:
1. post student syndrome
2. copycat
3. robot wars
4. ...and just when i thought i had it all figured out
5. written in some depressive mood
6. encounters
7. you know so well
8. fuel
when a hardcore band manages to record their song in the kuschelrock studios in bremen, one should be careful. if that band also sells t-shirts saying "death to false hardcore" one should be really careful. if the band is called shikari (which is japanese for corpse-hunter, btw) you better run.
this is true hardcore, stuff that'll send home most hatebreed, sick of it all, (late) biohazard or the "oh-god-we-are-so-hard" slipknot-fans crying. imagine an incredibly loud and aggressive sound-wall of metal-riffs turned to hardcore, a bass and a double-bassdrum playing at machine gun speed and a singer trying to scream against this noise.
if you ever happen to be in a pissy mood, this is the music to listen to. if you ever happen to be on a search for a soundtrack for a shooting, this is the music.
this record is short but more musicial brutalitiy would probably not bearable anyway. the only negative points about the record i have is the lack diversity, especially compared to later releases like the self-titled 4-song ep on level plane records (with the genius dead men (http://www.level-plane.com/php/song.php?id=63), which i really recommend you to download) or the split with seein red. also the songs aren't as complex as they could be (see later releases again).
the definition of brutal hardcore. 7.5/10
related links: shikari - official website (http://www.shikari.nl), download of dead men (http://www.level-plane.com/php/song.php?id=63) at level plane records (http://www.level-plane.com), this dutch fansite (http://www.bacteria.nl/Shikari.htm) offers all releases apart from the level-plane one as mp3s (mp3 section).
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:: runs up and hugs Ben ::
Yay! Someone else who disliked Evanesence and Linkin Park! Oh, and it's good that you're back, too.
I just heard on the radio that A Perfect Circle should have their second album out sometime in the fall, possibly September. Check it out.
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Lenny Kravitz - Greatest Hits
2000
1. Are you gonna go my way
2. Fly away
3. Rock 'n' roll is dead
4. Again
5. It ain't over 'til it's over
6. Can't get you off my mind
7. Mr cab driver
8. American woman
9. Stand by my woman
10. Always on the run
11. Heaven help
12. I belong to you
13. Believe
14. Let love rule
15. Black velveteen
I love this CD, it's just so awesome. I always loved 'Are You Gonna Go My Way' ever since it was released in 1993, and it opens up this greatest hits comp with a blast. Then follows the number 1 hit 'Fly Away', proving that great songs can make number 1. I've liked a lot of Lenny Kravitz's stuff over the years, but I've only really liked his hits, and found a lot of the other stuff on his albums weaker, and filler. This album takes the best stuff from all his albums, released last millenium. It's an awesome compilation, and it flows amazingly well too. Despite different productions, and a wide experimental range of instruments on different songs, this whole CD fits together and flows perfectly. Also, I particularly love 'It Aint Over Till It's Over', and 'Rock n' Roll Is Dead'. A new track was recorded for this comp too, called 'Again'. It's a really good rock song, nice change fill in the middle too, it's a welcome addition, as is this CD to anyomes collection, clool funky stuff! :cool:
9/10
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Originally posted by evan:
Yay! Someone else who disliked Evanesence and Linkin Park!
Damn money grubbin' bastards...
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I'll pretend I didn't hear that.
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U2 - 7
According to a sticker on the shrink wrap, "A Target Exclusive." It features 7 songs for $7. Hmm.
Anyway:
1) Summer Rain: Fun, good acoustic guitars (yeah, I like acoustic anything, basically. Real men play real instruments).
2) Always: Good stuff. Certainly more electronic noises.
3) Big Girls are Best: I think the name says it all. Kinda weird, not a sound I'd normally associate with U2
4) Beautiful Day (Quincey & Sonace Remix): I used to think that the DMB "When the World Ends" remix from the Matrix Reloaded soundtrack was the worst remix known to man. Boy, was I wrong. Excerpt: "boom chicka chicka boom It's a beautiful day boom chicka." Seriously, it didn't sound like anything a 12-year-old with a $15 synth couldn't do. 7:56 too long.
5) Elevation (Influx Remix): A much, much better remix than the previous track. Not as good as the original, but still enjoyable. I still don't think the remixer did enough - he could have done so much more with it.
6) Walk On (Single version): Eh, I liked the CD version better
7) Stuck in a Moment You Can't Get Out Of (Acoustic): The reason I bought this cd, since I'm a sucker for acoustic versions, and it didn't disappoint.
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here's another one of my reviews nobody ever reads or comments on.
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north of america - brothers, sisters
released: 2003
label: level plane records (usa) / rewika records (europe)
total playtime: 45:27
tracklist:
1. keep it on the download (http://www.rewika.com/mp3/north_of_america-01-keep_it_on_the_download.mp3)
2. wet to dance (http://www.level-plane.com/php/song.php?id=67)
3. let's get sick to our stomachs
4. you want to join my cult
5. all actors are liars
6. oh my god, oh my god, everybody, oh my god (http://www.rewika.com/mp3/north_of_america-06-oh_my_god%2C_oh_my_god%2C_everybody%2C_oh_my_god.mp3)
7. the fix is in
8. voting "no" on the warming of antarctica
9. yes to yes, cursed to the cursed
10. don't ask me how i did it (i'm a young turk)
11. let's get tight
don't you just love it when bands improve? and isn't it great when a band you've known for quite some time releases, after a while, their best album ever? i certainly think so and this is probably why i live brothers, sisters as much. while their previous releases were pretty good they weren't exactly balanced. while these songs are cursed and the sepultura were on the poppy side, this is dancefloor numerology was just violent, nervous math/noise/whatever-core.
with brothers, sisters, the norts combine both styles into a great mixture. i could try to come up with musicial references now ("think shellac, at the drive-in, trail of dead, pavement, etc." ) but actually, that's just dumb for a band that has released 5 albums already. this album sounds like the norts having a lot fun and recording a cd without any pressure.
but that doesn't mean the music isn't complicated or deep. actually, the album never gets boring, every song offers lots of twists and when you listen to it at first, you can bet your butt the song isn't going to do what you expect it to do even within the next 10 seconds. add to that more melodious vocals, a nice mixture of pop (alternative pop though) and noise/math-rock and you're there.
the highlights of this album are, in my opinion, wet to dance which, despite having some great lyrics, directly goes to your feet and makes you wanna dance (dance-able math-rock - ever heard of that?), the calmer oh my god, oh my god, everybody, oh my godand finally my favorite, voting "no" on the warming of antarctica which combines a great noise-intro with a chorus you have to sing along to. other great songs are the opener keep it on the download and their ode to halifax (their hometown) the fix is in.
now with fugazi, jawbox, at the drive-in and shellac pretty much out of business, this is the band all of you have been looking for (if you liked these bands, that is). brothers, sisters offers great rock by band which takes the music but not their attitude all too serious (just have a look at song titles like "oh my god, oh my god, everybody, oh my god" ). in short: north of america fucking rule (musicially and personally - they're nice guys).
i say: hell yeah, we want to join your cult. 9.5 / 10 buy this record.
related links: rewika records (http://www.rewika.com), level plane records (http://www.level-plane.com). songs that can be downloaded as mp3s are linked above in the tracklist.
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Prodigy - Music For the Jilted Generation
1994
1. Intro
2. Break & Enter
3. Their Law (Featuring Pop Will Eat Itself)
4. Full Throttle
5. Voodoo People
6. Speedway (Theme from Fastlane)
7. The Heat (The Energy)
8. Poison
9. No Good (Start the Dance)
10. One Love (Edit)
The Narcotic Suite
11. 3 Kilos
12. Skylined
13. Claustrophobic Sting
Moving on from the rave scene with their first album 'The Prodigy Experience', here Liam Howlett totally redifines the Prodigy sound, while still giving it his unique touch. As the vocal sample in the intro says, he's taking it back underground. This is where the new journey starts, and as well as being underground, from the very first second you can sense a darker sound and force coming into play too, with more atmosphere.
After the short, yet atmospheric intro, 'Break & Enter' quickly follows on, carrying on the dark underground vibe, but taking it further as it builds up. I love every track on this album, but this is my absolute favourite, and not just on this album, but ever! It immediately kicks in with it's underground beat, very hard, and fast. Then it gradually builds up, but this is nothing like a typical dance song or hard house song, this is in a world of it's own. And soon the sound of smashing pottery gets added to the drums, along with other high pitch synth sounds. Then after all that enery, the beat is then pushed into the background on it's own, and some heavy breathing layers over it, making it tenser. It's gets you on edge, and it's a total contrast, then suddenly it stops, and then the beat and pottery comes smashing back in. Only this time, an amazing and almost haunting bassline is layered with it and the track continues to build up. Also some beautiful strings are layers into the mix adding even more atmosphere and giving it more depth and contrast.
The bassline itself is very unusual, and changes from high to low in an almost random pattern, yet still sounds so whole and fits seamlessly to the rest of the track driving it along. Only a genious could create such an amazing piece of music. But the best is still yet to come. Next is the amazing synth line. This part is my favourite part of the song, and of any song. It's so beautiful and captivating, with so much atmosphere and depth. It's heaven for my ears, and then the rest of the track comes smashing back in, and the synth and basslines are played together as if they're long lost brothers. Throughout this a small vocal sample is also played, from Baby D. It's been changed a bit, and also fits with the song perfectly giving it another dimension, yet still letting the music itself breathe.
The song continues, on it's increadible strength and power until a new synth line is added. It's extremely high pitch, just like much of the song, and kinda acidy. Although this is even higher, taking the music to even further extremes. It's also contrasting to the main synth line, and plays it's own seperate part in the song. And then coms the breakdown. I kinda swurly going down effect, with the strings layered over it, and then the second synth line being broken down and half played over it.
Then the song carrys back on, transending between different layers, and at one point near the end simply having everything taken out and just left with the drums and smashing pottery effects. And then it finishes like it started, hard and fast. Holy Moly I can't believe I wrote all that just about one song! You can tell I really like it ;) If I carry on like this though it's gonna be more like an essay than a review...
Carying on is 'Their Law'. This is a slower song, but just as hard. Here Liam breaks all previous rules of dance music, and mixes guitars into it, which play a big part of the song. This song is a total rebellion to the law, and authority. Liam was really pissed off with all the authoritys killing the rave scene with their anti-noise pollution measures, and this is what fuelled the song.
'Full Throttle' is an amazing dance song, very complicated with loads of different segments and build ups. Also, it has a lot of atmosphere. Then comes 'Voodoo People', one of the singles from the album. An amazing synth line and hard beats. 'Speedway' follows, it's a totally different type track in structure. Very intense, and I used to feel it wasn't as strong, but I've grown to love it. Just like every track, it's essential to the album, and makes it more cohorently whole. At the end of this track, we get a chilled out vibey fill, before building into the next track 'The Heat (the energy)' Interesting structure, hard and unusual. The perfect preperation for 'Poison', which is probabaly my second favourite on the album. It was the last track to be completed for the album, and it shows because it captivates a different end on the jilted spectrum. A very complicated track, in which Maxim take the mic for the first time, and to great effect. Also, this track uses real drums in the second part, another raraity in dance music of the time which Liam explores. It just shows how creative he is, and how he doesn't limit himslef in any way, and this is shown again even further in the last 3 tracks.
Then 'No Good (start the dance)' follows, a perfect contrast to the dark brooding Poison. After going to one side of the Jilted spectrum, were plunged straight back to the other. Awesome track, very energising. And after that, 'One Love', the fisrt single from the album thunders is with it's tribal drums.
And finally the last 3 songs are called 'Narcotic Suite'. This is the most experimental part of the album, and Liams creativity and talent continues to shine, in a new light. A lot of natural instruments are used like flute and didgeridoo. All three songs are amazing, blending digital and natural instruments togather. And we climax with the increadibly dark 'Claustrophobic Sting'. This is the most electronic of the 3 final tracks, wrapping the album up in a dark atmospheric hard beats.
I just love this album, just like all Prodigy albums, so much! But this is my favourite. It's amazing to think Liam didn't even use a computer on this album either. He blended all different types of music together, from rock, to natural stuff and mixed it into his own hard, creative dance mix. I don't like most dance music, I find a lot of it too mechanical for my tastes. But Liam somehow managed to give Prodigy's music a human touch, it comes from within him, not the machines, they're just the tools to make it. And he has a really great ear for sounds too. Also, I think he's the best producer ever, and he produces all of Prodigy's music, and all of Prodigy's songs have amazing production. His songs have such a diversity in structure as well, and they're all very different to each other.
I could probabaly write an essay on every single track, but in short the Jilted Generation is my favorite album ever! And it definately has a retro sound too it, you can tell it's from the mid 90's. But that's not a bad thing, I actually think it's a good thing. A lot of music can sound dated when it sounds like it came from a certain era, but I feel this somehow enhances the Jilted eneration, because although it sounds like a mid 90's album, it hasn't dated one bit, never will. It captures the time, but preserves the freshness. It's timeless! This is the uniqueness and genious of Liam Howlett of The Prodigy.
10/10
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SpacemanSpiff what are you talking about? several people commented on your post of the Mars volta. I havent liked rock music in a few years but this album has turned me back onto it. I also heard North of America's new album which i didnt like as much, but maybe that attitude will change after a few more listens.
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Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff:
here's another one of my reviews nobody ever reads or comments on.
yay finally album that i have ;)
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north of america - brothers, sisters
released: 2003
label: level plane records (usa) / rewika records (europe)
total playtime: 45:27
tracklist:
1. keep it on the download (http://www.rewika.com/mp3/north_of_america-01-keep_it_on_the_download.mp3)
2. wet to dance (http://www.level-plane.com/php/song.php?id=67)
3. let's get sick to our stomachs
4. you want to join my cult
5. all actors are liars
6. oh my god, oh my god, everybody, oh my god (http://www.rewika.com/mp3/north_of_america-06-oh_my_god%2C_oh_my_god%2C_everybody%2C_oh_my_god.mp3)
7. the fix is in
8. voting "no" on the warming of antarctica
9. yes to yes, cursed to the cursed
10. don't ask me how i did it (i'm a young turk)
11. let's get tight
don't you just love it when bands improve? and isn't it great when a band you've known for quite some time releases, after a while, their best album ever?
i have only 2 albums so i cant really say if it's the best one...
the highlights of this album are, in my opinion, wet to dance which, despite having some great lyrics, directly goes to your feet and makes you wanna dance (dance-able math-rock - ever heard of that?)
oh my, yes!!
and finally my favorite, voting "no" on the warming of antarctica which combines a great noise-intro with a chorus you have to sing along to.
it's my favorite song too! :love:
"Ship and captain" is great too.
now with fugazi, jawbox, at the drive-in and shellac pretty much out of business, this is the band all of you have been looking for (if you liked these bands, that is). brothers, sisters offers great rock by band which takes the music but not their attitude all too serious (just have a look at song titles like "oh my god, oh my god, everybody, oh my god" ). in short: north of america fucking rule (musicially and personally - they're nice guys).
i say: hell yeah, we want to join your cult. 9.5 / 10 buy this record.
related links: rewika records (http://www.rewika.com), level plane records (http://www.level-plane.com). songs that can be downloaded as mp3s are linked above in the tracklist.
well i have to agree ;). North Of America is very interesting band... i dont think it looks like ATDI or other bands, i think it's rather unique. The lyrics are quite interesting and music is not simple, it's just so different and amazing. what else to say, you said it all. :D
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i'm gonna write a review on Nine Inch Nails when i'll have a free time.
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Violent J-Wizard of the Hood - 2003
1.Intro
2.Let it Rain
3.Yellow Brick Alleyway
4.Homies to smoke with
5.Thug Whilin'
6.Horribly Horrifying
7.What you thinkin about?
8.Shiny Diamonds
9.Wizard's Palace
10.Axes Swingin'
11.Multiple myselves
12.Bloody dead bitch(bonus)
13.Wizard of the hood(bonus)
I bought this CD a few days ago. DAMN I thought. With the 6th Joker card (Wraith) ICP promised a new Juggalo world and maybe this is it. This isn't typical ICP, in fact, its better. I like the upbeat rap style of this CD. Now, don't get me wrong, ICP hasn't forgotten thier horror fans but this CD was just alot of fun. Violent J, with guest appearences by Shaggy 2 Dope, Blaze ya dead homie and Twiztid retells the story of Wizard of Oz Juggalo style.
I've been a Juggalo for some time now and this wasn't anything I was expecting but maybe thats a good thing. I hope that ICP will stick to thier horror stuff but I also hope J does a few more solos like this.
This CD is the bomb: 8/10
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Ahem. Thanks to you, Spiff, I "found" some North of America songs just the other day, as well as some by my brother's favorite, Jedi Mind Tricks.
And, if I ever get around to it, I could review The Soundtrack of Our Lives, The Cure's Greatest Hits, or something else that I bought and needs reviewing.
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I was gonna comment on how cool your brother is, but then I realized you were talking about me.(anyway, he's very cool)
Uh, which songs? "Violent By Design" is a kickass album. ("The Deer Hunter," "Heavenly Divine," "Death March" and "Exertions" are my faves. All the interludes are radical too.)Their new one, "Visions Of Gandhi," is a little disappointing. (but it's still lovely)
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Originally posted by evan:
I just heard on the radio that A Perfect Circle should have their second album out sometime in the fall, possibly September. Check it out.
The new stuff is awesome. Thumbs up to them.
I got the new Chevelle album a while ago,but I've been putting it off. I just listened to it today, an it is very unique an compelling, i must say. I won't do a full review, because I don't have time and I don't know the songs well enough. But I will say that you need to be patient with this band. They will grow on you, at least that's how it was with me. That's why I waited so long to listen to it. They're a combination of whispering, screaming and short singing. They have some great guitar styles, excellent.
Since the whole LP/Evanescence was brought up the other day on the radio, it reminded me of this thread. Actually, LP an Ev are increibly different. In fact, the only thing they really have in common is rock. First of all, the guitar styles are very, very different. Very little mixing of rap is in Ev's music, just for effect at times. Chester does not scream all the time, either does Amy. Therefore you cannot say she is a female Chester. And another excellent point, since when has LP used the combination of piano and violins in their music? Violins, piano and rock are an awesome combo, if you listened to the Fallen album maybe you'd see(Whisper actually caused me to like violins! Wow!).
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Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff:
someone say hardcore?
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Excellent informative review. I like the download selection because this is an awesome album that I can't find anywhere because I'm in the US. I've been looking for it for a long time. So I'm downloading a little of it, and I like it more and more the more of it I steal. Almost as intimidating as Dillinger Escape Plan. Maybe I can get it on Amazon or something.
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Here's one I've been promising for a while, but unfortunately couldn't get out of listening to The Mars Volta's album enough to listen to this.
Jane's Addiction - Strays
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1. True Nature
2. Strays
3. Just Because
4. Price I Pay
5. The Riches
6. SuperHero
7. Wrong Girl
8. Everybody's Friend
9. Suffer Some
10. Hypersonic
11. To Match The Sun
With former alternative heroes such as The Red Hot Chili Peppers currently ruling the mainstream, it was only a matter of time before the other major influence on the American alternative rock scene came back to show the young whipper-snappers how it's supposed to be done.
Well, they have, and then some.
"Strays" is an awesome album, chock-full of killer riffs which showcases Dave Navarro's soaring guitar work. Not only that, they're damn good songs too, from amazing opener "True Nature" to killer single "Just Because" and "The Price To Pay" which starts as a ballad then kicks in to play out as a stomper.
Godfather of Lollapalooza, Perry Farrel's falsetto vocals are in good form too (from the first "Here we go", you know you're in for a ride.)
In the long-run, this'll match (or even surpass) seminal albums "Ritual De Lo Habitual" and "Nothing's Shocking", and their uber-single "Been Caught Stealing".
On the production side, Bob Ezrin's work is slick, bringing out all of the players, while also keeping it relatively light, rhythm section-wise.
Highly recommended. 8/10.
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Ah, I was thinking of buying Strays (along with Hoobastank's newest and the Foo Fighter's newest). You highly reccomend it, I'll guess I'll go for it.
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Betchadupa – The 3D EP (2001)
1. I Want It
2. Awake
3. Spill The Light
4. Man On My Left
5. Brighter Sound
New Zealand band, Betchadupa, are an alternative-rock group. They have a sound with harsh guitar and a lot of bass, with unique sounding vocals. Headed by Liam Finn, who is both the lead guitarist and vocalist of the band, Betchadupa are an exciting young band, with sounds similar to Blur, and have also been compared with Radiohead.
I Want It is a pulsating track, with a great guitar riff, and a strong bass line. This song really defines the band’s sound. Awake sounds similar to the first track, but also has an acoustic guitar added which you can really hear. Spill The Light is a slower, acoustic track, and shows that the band can play slower songs, as this song is certainly up there with the other tracks. The fast pace of Man On My Left is certainly a change from the previous track and it gets the heart pumping. The EP is finished off with another slower track, Brighter Sound, which although slow like Spill The Light, has a completely different sound, and it wraps up the EP very well.
This CD is a great to listen to, and the band is really another example of the new rock scene sweeping the world, with bands like The Hives and The Vines becoming popular, although the sound that Betchadupa make can hardly be likened to them. The EP is made up well with three exciting, pulsating songs, and two slower songs.
8/10
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Is liam Finn Neil Finn's Son or something?
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Quicky Review:
The White Stripes
Live on SNL.
This is my first exposure to this supergroup's live sound and stage presence.
Wow...they suck.
I liked 'em better when they were called The Stooges.
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Originally posted by Futurama_Hil:
And another excellent point, since when has LP used the combination of piano and violins in their music? Violins, piano and rock are an awesome combo, if you listened to the Fallen album maybe you'd see(Whisper actually caused me to like violins! Wow!).
First of all, I just want to say I love LP, and Evanescence is pretty clool too. And yeah, they are totally different. But LP has used violins and piano in their music. I don't think they've combined both instruments into the same song though, but both have been used in their songs.
For violin, it's in 'Breaking the Habit', and for Piano it's in 'In The End' and 'Numb' :)
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Eh, well, they're not used the same way. I always thought those were keyboards, not pianos. I like both as well, but their styles are really really different, listening to "Whisper" and comparing it to "Figure.09" is the easiest way to see this. and I'm sick of everyone saying "they're Linkin Park with a girl" because it's so wrong.
BTW, I can't exactly recall, but I think there was some keyboards in the beginning of "Breaking The Habit".
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
Excellent informative review. I like the download selection because this is an awesome album that I can't find anywhere because I'm in the US. I've been looking for it for a long time. So I'm downloading a little of it, and I like it more and more the more of it I steal. Almost as intimidating as Dillinger Escape Plan. Maybe I can get it on Amazon or something.
i guess you won't be lucky there. all old lps are only available in europe, if at all (many are out of print - the mp3 downloads on the fansite are mostly out of print, for example).
but you can rather easilly get the self titled 4-song lp on level-plane.com.
Originally posted by Futurama_Hil:
Ah, I was thinking of buying Strays (along with Hoobastank's newest and the Foo Fighter's newest). You highly reccomend it, I'll guess I'll go for it.
nooooooo... don't waste your money on that! buy something else instead, i dunno, at the drive-in - relationship of command or whatever, but don't get one by one. stay tuned for a review by me.
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One by One is below average... but still OK.
All my life is one of the best songs I've heard all year.
You want a good new (kinda) aussie rock album? Get Grinspoon - New Detention, Best $25 i've spent this year, it almost tops thier old CD's.
I won't get into any of the more obscure auz bands yet...
EDIT : Oh and Hoobastank's CD is pretty crappy too, only two or three good songs on there...
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Aww, well I love 'em Foo Fighters (that no one ever seems to care about)...and All My Life is ceratinly an incredible song. Low is surprisngly not fun to listen to though. But I was gonna get the album, but I'll wait for Spiff's review...
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Get their old stuff, it still goes right off.
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foo fighters - one by one
released: 2002
label: roswell records
total playtime: 55:02
tracklist:
1. all my life
2. low
3. have it all
4. times like these
5. disenchanted lullaby
6. tired of you
7. halo
8. lonely as you
9. overdrive
10. burn away
11. come back
it's the end of the year 2002 and it's time for a new foo fighters album. being a long-time fan, i run to the store as soon as they released it and got myself the dvd-edition (thus spending even more money on it). having seen the video of all my life before already, i thought the album would rock, just as this song did and does.
damn, i was wrong.
as soon as i arrived at home, i put in the foo fighters album to listen to it. starting out with the pretty good all my life, i was happy. then came low - okay, a bit nu-metal-ish, but it rocks, so i liked it. then came have it all. now i was getting slightly irritated. sure, it was an okay song, but where were the killer melodies and the ass-kicking rock? okay, it might just be that song, so i listend to it and got to times like these. ... huh. another song just like that. oh well. next one. disenchanted lullaby and tired of you follow, two rather slow and calm songs. i've read in some other review that these songs have a dense feeling to them. i think they're boring.
with halo my day got a bit better again, it's not the best song the foo fighters have ever written, but it has a nice melody, so it was okay in my book. with lonely as you, overdrive and burn away 3 more rocking songs followed - but they didn't stick out. come back is pretty long for a foo fighters song (7:49) which makes it interesting, but just like the songs before, it didn't stick out.
and that's why i don't like the album a lot: it's good and solid rock, sure, but it doesn't stick out. there're just no more killer songs like monkey wrench, everlong, learn to fly or generator. with the colour and the shape the foos had delivered and awesome album, probably one of the best rock albums ever. there's nothing left to lose wasn't as good but still a way-above-average rock album. but one by one isn't - it's just average. it doesn't stick out, and i'm really disappointed. i might be pretty happy about an album like that if it was the first album by an unknown band, but the foo fighters can do better, i just know it.
and as if that wasn't enough, they didn't even put walking a line on the album - it's just on the dvd. and this song fucking rocks. i hate 'em for that, and that alone is reason enough to give this album one point less.
my conclusion: for fans and people who've never listened to a foo fighters album before. 6/10
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futurama_hil, if you don't have it, get the color and the shape if you want to buy a foo fighters album. it rules.
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get the color and the shape if you want to buy a foo fighters album. it rules.
Second. Third. Fourth and Fifth
Truer words are yet to be spoken
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Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff:
nooooooo... don't waste your money on that! buy something else instead, i dunno, at the drive-in - relationship of command
That's kind of a random association, isn't it? Or did you just want to mention ATDI..?
Get both, I did. It's just that I bought one of them three years ago, and one last year. I don't really see how they directly compare, being in completely different genres and having been released years apart...
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Originally posted by Ben:
That's kind of a random association, isn't it? Or did you just want to mention ATDI..?
okay, you got me. they're paying me money if i mention them on a regular basis on message boards, especially when people are around who don't like that kind of music.
getting both would be the best option, but then again, you need more money for that.
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True. She sould just skip all the Foo Fighters and get the best thing Dave has been a part of, 'In Utero'..
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Or Queens Of The Stone Age - "Songs For The Deaf".
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Or Tenacious D's "Tenacious D."
Nah, that's stretching it a little bit.
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...indeed.
Also, what I've heard of the new Killing Joke album (with Mr. G guesting on drums) is pretty damn good.
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Originally posted by Futurama_Hil:
Eh, well, they're not used the same way. I always thought those were keyboards, not pianos. I like both as well, but their styles are really really different, listening to "Whisper" and comparing it to "Figure.09" is the easiest way to see this. and I'm sick of everyone saying "they're Linkin Park with a girl" because it's so wrong.
BTW, I can't exactly recall, but I think there was some keyboards in the beginning of "Breaking The Habit".
I totally agree that LP and Eva are really different. For a start, LP aren't gothic. Unfortunately people like to catergorise things and shove them in boxes with labels on them. That's why stupid statements like them being LP with a girl get made.
I was merely just saying that LP had used those instuments in their music, and that's not the best way to argue their seperation. Take Oasis and Slayer for exapmle. They both use singing, guitars, and drums as same main instruments, but are extremely different. Comparing them by what instruments they use is often not a very strong case. It's the style they're played, and many many more things that are.
And I guess LP's songs do use keyboards and synth sounds, but also they definately do use real violins in 'Breaking the Habit'. I watched all their weekly video progress reports on making Meteora, and they got a mini orchestra into the studio to record the string parts. And for the piano on Numb, just check the video out and you'll see a real piano in it. I can't say 100% about 'In The End' because I don't have it as a fact, but it defianetly sounds like a real piano :)
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Keyboards and pianos are basically the same instrument. Linkin Park and Evanescense play the same instruments in almost the exact same ways. The guy who guest stars on "Wake Me Up Inside" sounds exactly like the guy who raps in Linkin Park. Aside from a female vocalist, it still sounds to me like very similar bands.
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Originally posted by evan:
The guy who guest stars on "Wake Me Up Inside" sounds exactly like the guy who raps in Linkin Park.
...Wait a minute, you're comparing two bands with a person who isn't even in either of them :p
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but...but...but...evan! how can you say such a thing? they're like totally different bands! they dress completely different and they are on different record labels!
...seriously though, i agree with you.
oh, and look what i found on amazon.com (it kind of supports your theory, evan):
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Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff:
...seriously though, i agree with you.
oh, and look what i found on amazon.com (it kind of supports your theory, evan):
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Yeah, it proves a lot of people bought both those CDs. But it doesn't mean they're the same. I've bought CD's by Jamiroquai and Fear Factory, but are they same, hell no!
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
Yeah, it proves a lot of people bought both those CDs. But it doesn't mean they're the same. I've bought CD's by Jamiroquai and Fear Factory, but are they same, hell no!
no, it proves that many people have ordered those cds at the same time. and that kind of shows that those bands are closely related, style-wise. that's why you can buy these packages in the first place. you'ld never see a "black flag & britney spears"-package - it doesn't make sense from the marketing point of view.
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Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff:
no, it proves that many people have ordered those cds at the same time.
Yeah, I know. When I said "Yeah, it proves a lot of people bought both those CDs.", that's exactly what I meant. By 'both', I meant 'at the same time'. Unfortunately I fell into the trap of open interpretation. Anyway, taking any sort of openess away, I'll say what I meant again.
Yeah, it proves a lot of people bought both CDs at the same time.
I'll look harder for traps in future...
Yeah, I agree with the rest your post. Anyway, looking on Amazon at Nirvana, it says people who bought Nirvana also bought stuff by a load of other bands. Many of them proving your point, with kind of similar style. One of the bands mentioned was Alice in Chains, also a grunge band from Seattle. But just because both bands have a Grunge style, and a lot of people bought CD's by both of them at the same time, it doesn't mean they're particulary similar.
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Actually, that was a package deal, not one of those "people buying this also bought....." things.
Anyways, it's down to interpretation, there are similarities in the music, and there are differences. I'd be insulted if they carbon-copied Linkin Park with a female singer.
I have described Evanescence as being like LP, but only because it was convenient. Thanks to Spicey, I now point people at Lacuna Coil for the Evanescence-like bands, not Linkin Park.
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
Actually, that was a package deal, not one of those "people buying this also bought....." things.
But the whole point in it even becoming a package deal is because people bought both those albums at the same time, which is is exactly the same as "people buying this also bought..." things.
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So? What's the problem? People bought those albums at the same, so they decided to package them together because they figure that people who like Evanescence will like Linkin park.
Which isn't probably 100% true, but more often than not, you'd say it was more than likely to be so.
I'm not sure where you're coming from on this, are you offended that they link the bands so closely?
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
I'm not sure where you're coming from on this, are you offended that they link the bands so closely?
Agreed with first 2 paragraphs, I'm disputing that. I'm not offended either, since I have no shame in either band. I'm merely just defending my opinion that both bands are different.
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It's an opinion which you're entitled to. However, comparisons - however slight - between the two are there (perhaps more so for people who are not devotee's of their music - you know what I mean, the more you get into it, the less like anything else it appears to be).
There's no shame in liking either band. I'm with you, I have albums by both, I saw and enjoyed LP at Leeds Fest, and I'm going to see them again in November.
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I'm curious as to why the statement that "Evanescene sounds like Linkin Park" gets people so mad. There's nothing wrong with liking a band that sounds like another band you listen to. For example, I will freely admit that the Hives liberally "borrow" a lot from the Stones. There's nothign wrong with that. So why do LP fans get upset when you say they sound like Evanescense?
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Lucuna Coil are the greatest. I don't know anything about them but they give me a bucket of dried shrimp for each recommendation I give.
If someone had never heard of Evanescence and I wanted to describe them in a handful of words, I wouldn't say "It's Britney Spears but with guitars, and more talent, and more God references, and less sex, infact it's nothing like Britney at all I just felt like making a random comparison". LP with a girl is a nice way to sum up what Evanescence sound like because their styles are similar. Mid-tempo inoffensive rock music. I don't understand why you seem to be so offended by the comparison.
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Originally posted by Archie2K:
I don't understand why you seem to be so offended by the comparison.
Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
I'm not offended either
Are you even reading what I said? How can I seem to be offended when I bluntly said I'm not.
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Having visited the LP Message Board, I'd say they get a little uptight at the comparison. I don't understand it either. If you like both bands then that's great, surely? It's not like they're being compared to Good Charlotte.
EDIT: Moving away from this subject, does anyone have the album by the Yeah Yeah Yeahs? MTV2 are playing their video "Maps" and I really like it.
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Anyone who wasn't offended would've stopped arguing eons ago. I just don't get what you're trying to get at. It's hardly like we're making wild sweeping comparisons about LP being the same as that Evanescence over commercialised shit.
And there's no need to get patronising in an argument. It doesn't help the case.
Also I don't get why Good Charlotte get singled out so much. Plenty of bands have produced crap music, yet they seem to get wailed on constantly. Anyone?
Also: Damn you CyberKnight. Quit posting at the same time as me!
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Originally posted by evan:
I'm curious as to why the statement that "Evanescene sounds like Linkin Park" gets people so mad.
That doesn't get me MAD, it's when people say "Evanescence is Linkin Park with a girl" that gets me mad. They do sound like LP, but deeper in the music they really are very different. I'm not mad, just irritated that people assume each of Ev's songs are exactly like 'Bring Me To Life" which they aren't.
Also one time I got a package with Blink 182 and Lixz Phair in it, go figure :p
Back to reviews, I got two new Cds today, after a while I may give short comments on them.
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Originally posted by Archie2K:
Anyone who wasn't offended would've stopped arguing eons ago. I just don't get what you're trying to get at. It's hardly like we're making wild sweeping comparisons about LP being the same as that Evanescence over commercialised shit.
And there's no need to get patronising in an argument. It doesn't help the case.
If you don't believe me, then there's nothing more I can say. Assuming I was arguing because you thought I was offended, even though I bluntly said I wasn't, is a patronisation in itself. You're telling me how I'm feeling. Don't give what you can't take.
It's not because I'm offended that I'm continuing, it's because I stand up for what I believe in. In this particular case, I find that more important in it's own right, than what I'm standing up for, that's why I'm carrying on. Although what I'm standing up for is important to me, otherwise I'd have no reason to stand up for it in the first place.
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"Evanescence is Linkin Park with a girl"
Well they are both overly commercial, especially LP
OK, Evanescence isnt horribly bad... yet...
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Billy Talent
September 16, 2003
Atlantic Records
Cheap, too, like US$11.98
01. This Is How It Goes
02. Living In The Shadows
03. Try Honesty
04. Line & Sinker
05. Lies
06. The Ex
07. River Below
08. Standing In The Rain
09. Cut The Curtains
10. Prisoners Of Today
11. Nothing To Lose
12. Voices Of Violence
Billy Talent's album is about to drop, and they seem poised for pop-punk success. It's not out quite yet, but I do have an advance copy that I got when I saw them open for the Buzzcocks at the Fillmore in June.
These guys are from Toronto, and they sing really catchy, fairly radio-friendly poppy punk. When they hit big, they're sure to be the next Sum 41, and I will be obligated to hate them. They even look like Sum 41. So why did I like their live show so much?
The singer, some guy with a Polish name I forgot, is part of the story. On the album, he's got the whiny delivery of the modern bubblegum "punk" bands, but every so often he busts out the hardcore, Shikari-style wail. In the live show, this was the rule rather than the exception. It rocked.
Their single is "Try Honesty," but they opened the show with "Living in the Shadows," a scream-heavy track, even on the album. It was an introduction that set them up as a band that seemed capable of really thrashing and playing total hardcore if they chose, but they have the charming misfortune to be able to play their instruments well.
The bass player was actually fairly awesome. He also played a Music Man, which has inspired me to go out and spend way too much on one. It's unusual in a punk band to say the least. The drums are tight, and the guitarist has a real thrashy sound, not big on solos or tricks. And the backup vocals come in all the right places.
So they have this pop sound that smooths out the edges, which may or may not be a good thing, if you take punk seriously.
Their arrogance in person seemed to belie the pop flavour of the album. The singer's banter to the audience was largely incomprehensible, but he had a real authentic-sounding disdain for phony punks who think the clothes make the man, as it were. I mean, how fake could they be if they're named after the guy in Hard Core Logo? But unlike Hard Core Logo, they don't sound like the Rolling Stones.
The attitude doesn't entirely hold up under close scrutiny of the album, however. Take, for example, "Nothing to Lose." It's a real emotional song about being unpopular in school. It hits hard, but it's a little outside the realm of serious punk. While the other songs aren't quite so heavy on the pathos, the band definitely leans to the school-age angst stuff, rather than the "fuck all authority" punk. This is likely to make them popular with junior high school kids, but since they're all grown men, it does test their credibility.
So overall, it's hard to know what to think. The songs are all catchy, but I might have forgotten about them by the time the album comes out. On the other hand, their cockiness might actually pull the thing off. Maybe it's a good sign that four months after I saw them, they're still enough on my mind for me to write this review.
Their official website, http://www.billytalent.com/ (http://www.billytalent.com/) , seems to be down right now, and the album isn't out until later this month, the 26th I think, but you can download their songs right now on filesharing systems, I believe they were actually intentionally using Kazaa for advance promotion, so they won't mind as long as you buy the album.
Edit: The website seems to be back up, and the album dropped today. So if you want to hear it, buy it, or request it on the radio. No need for P2P anymore.
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Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff:
i guess you won't be lucky there. all old lps are only available in europe, if at all (many are out of print - the mp3 downloads on the fansite are mostly out of print, for example).
but you can rather easilly get the self titled 4-song lp on level-plane.com.
Rats. Well, at least I don't feel so bad about downloading them now. I'll give up on trying to buy the albums, more or less. I guess I'll check eBay a little, and if I actually get to Europe this winter I'll try to find a punk record store. Now to download the rest of the songs.
Edit: don't double post kids, this should be left to trained professionals with bad attitudes.
Edit 2: Now I feel dirty. I downloaded Robot Wars and burned it to a CD. The website says that Level Plane will release a 12" and a "discography" cd later in 2003. Don't know if it's true.
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Division Of Laura Lee - Black City
2002 - Burning Heart/Epitaph
Track List:
1. Need To Get Some
2. We've Been Planning This For Years
3. Number One
4. Trapped In
5. Access Identity
6. I Guess I'm Healed
7. The Truth Is Fucked
8. Black City
9. I Walk On Broken Glass
10. Second Rule Is
11. Pretty Electric
12. Wild and Crazy
By the media, DOLL will be undoubetly pigeonholed into that whole "Swedish Invasion" thing perpetuated by the success of bands like the Hives.
You know, that loud and loose punk edged rock and roll, injected with a healthy shot of ultra minimal garage rock ala White Stripes.
Although it's the flavour of the week, that sound has been around for years, Frank Black and the Catholics, anyone? These four guys from Gothenberg bring a little more to the table than standard White Hypes.
Black City is a fairly quirky and restless album, that tosses and turns throughout it's twelve tracks. Production is dry in parts and saturated in others. The hard edged, fuzzy rock of songs like "Need to get some" and "Second rule is" are effectively offset by the more sedate and eerie elements brought out in songs like "I walk on broken glass" and "I guess I'm healed" The little added extras like bongo drums, reverbed clean guitars and sampled sound effects work effortlessly behind the scenes and never detract from the overt task at hand.
DOLL's sound is simple but not simplistic. Punk, New Wave and good old rock are well represented and the songs are more than competently performed. Lyrically, they are somewhat cynical, streetwise and not all that sunny. I guess it boils down to the listenibility of the songs. They are cool, catchy and almost "itchy".
Not as commercially accessible as The Hives and not as noisy as The International Noise Conspiracy. In a perfect world, DOLL would be all over the radio. Thankfully it is a far from perfect world.
If you yearn for something off the beaten path, and more often than not beats that path into the ground, give it a spin.
Standout Track: The Truth Is Fucked.
7.5/10 A solid and memorable rockin' release.
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Cool review, I'll look out for that one.
Meanwhile, I wanted to do a review of an oldie (but goodie):
Pink Floyd - Animals
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Harvest/EMI (1977)
Tracks:
1) Pigs On The Wing 1
2) Dogs
3) Pigs (3 different ones)
4) Sheep
5) Pigs On The Wing 2
One of my favourite albums and an oft overlooked Floyd classic. Released the year punk broke, it was probably another of the dinosaur band albums which the punk-upstarts poured scorn on.
Nowadays "filler" albums are released and labelled as such, but there was only two 'new' songs written for Animals. "Pigs On The Wing" was written as one piece and split into two parts to bookend the album, and "Pigs" was written by Roger Waters just prior to the album. The other two songs, were old songs "You Gotta Be Crazy" and "Raving And Drooling" renamed as "Dogs" and "Sheep" respectively to continue the Animals theme.
By this time, Floyd were a super-league stadium behemoth and relations were straining in the band, primarily with Roger Water becoming increasingly paranoid and more determined to wrestle control of the band from the other three.
Album Cover mythology doesn't get better than this. Roger Waters' idea to stage the flying pig above Battersea Power Station proved to be a masterstroke. Taking three days to shoot, cover designer Storm Thorgerson employed a huge pig dirigable to be flown from the towers of the power station. Managment foresight on the first day of shooting saw a marksman brought on day 1 in to shoot down the pig if it threatened to fly away. With superb cloudy skys above Battersea numerous shots were taken. Except that the pig didn't inflate on the first day, and therefore they didn't get the thing up.
So back they came (this time without the marksman) for day two and this time the pig flew, and proceeded to make a spectacular bid for freedom, breaking away from it's morring ropes and heading up up and away into the flight lanes used by Heathrow Airport (imagine the look on the pilots faces - flying pig ahoy!).
Day three arrived after rescuing the pig from a farm in Kent, and this time it behaved, however the sky was cloudless and less dramatic than that of the first day. So the sky was ripped from the picture on the first day and the pig from day three. They could have saved the bother and never attempted to float the pig in the first place, but they'd never have this story to tell.
The album theme's deal with paranoia (a growing sense in the PF camp) specifically coming from Waters. Who, when they toured Animals, spat at a fan at Montreal's Olympic stadium, confused, he was said to hate what the band had become, and wanted to build a wall between the band and audience.
We all know what came next.......
8/10
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Yeah, I can't do any fancy reviews like all of you, but I do have reccomedations and my opioion (sp, i know :rolleyes: ). So why not? Here, you all know I've been listening to this album:
"Dookie" by Green Day (1994)
Maybe Green Day's best album. I love all the songs on this album, I must say Green Day's drummer is probably my favorite drummer. He's excellent! When I enjoy the drums as much as the guitars, you know it's good :cool:. I'd reccomend this album to anyone who has a mind of their own, who isn't afraid to speak their minds. Also if you like active drums, steady guitars and Green Day's unique vocal style, you must get this album!
9/10
I may add more to this when I get the chance, sorry if I don't do an adequete job of actually telling you exactly about this CD! also today I'm getting A Perfect Circle's "Thirteenth Step". Maybe a review is in order! :)
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i think Foo Foghters' 'low' is a pretty good song. (that's the onnly FF's song i heard ;))
i dunno if linkin park sounds the same as Evanescence... i like em both so, perhaps.
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Originally posted by Spice Weasel:
Division Of Laura Lee - Black City
Yeah, Black City is one of the better albums I bought last year. Personally it was track 3 which caught my attention and made me buy the album (see, if P2P didn't exist, I would have never heard of them) last October. I'd hardly say DOLL are better than TWS (so sad that they've become popular enough for the assholes of the world to start dissing them. It was so much better before WBC was re-released, when no-one knew who they were.), but the album is a pretty good listen, regardless.
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
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Mindset - A Bullet For Cinderella
1999
8/10
After getting this album again, I've changed my mind. I've been testing out a lot of obscure and not so obscure metal bands lately, but nearly all of the turned out to be crap, or just... boring. Then I listen to this album again, and it totally blows them off into a swamp. This album doesn't have as much filler as I remembered, it all grows on you. It's awesome to the max. Some of the lyrics are a bit OTT, but the deliverance is awesome. A new higher score is deserved.
9/10
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i'ld like to thank the person here who introduced me to the dillinger escape plan (i think it was spice weasel).
they're absolutely awesome. i've never heard music as complex yet completely disharmonic and hateful as dillinger. it rules.
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^Yup, Dillinger is quite the complex, some say fucked up listen. For something else jaw dropping, try Spiral Architect. The album "A Skeptics Universe" is mindblowing.
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As irony would have it, a few days ago I started "acquiring" Dillenger Escape Plan at the recommendation of a friend. It's good, but hard to comeby online.
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SYX-A COLD BREATH OF WHAT IT TAKES
www.syxonline.com (http://www.syxonline.com)
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/syx2 (http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/syx2)(http://www.cdbaby.com/covers/s/y/syx2.jpg)
A local band from Portland, Oregon. They've definitely improved from their last album. Beautiful and major-label quality production, stunning for an independent release.
I am slightly biased in favor of this band because I know them, but even so, they still kick ass (and their live show? DAMN! They played a bowling alley and still had a pit!)
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i got few songs from Spiff i really like The Dillinger Escape Plan. when i first listened to "When Good Dogs Do Bad Things" i thought 'weird' but after listening few times i really liked it. calm part is just so awesome...
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Originally posted by Spice Weasel:
^Yup, Dillinger is quite the complex, some say fucked up listen. For something else jaw dropping, try Spiral Architect. The album "A Skeptics Universe" is mindblowing.
thank you very much, i'm going to ... uh ... find it somewhere.
edit: found some songs (two, actually: insect and moving spirit), i come to the following conclusion: too metal-ish for me. i'm sorry.
i'm not such a huge fan of metal, plus their songs don't pack the same punch as for example dillinger's songs.
however, i do agree, they're some damn good musicians.
however, if you're looking for complicated music, i've got something very interesting for you: the cancer conspiracy. none of their songs have vocals, it's just music. and some pretty awesome too.
you can get a free mp3s here (http://www.epitonic.com/artists/thecancerconspiracy.html), their website has disappeared though.
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I'm sure I've grabbed some Cancer Conspiracy songs off you before. Pretty damn good.
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meh sorry just done a mistake
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Kamelot: Epica
Track list:
1:Prolouge
2:Center of the Universe
3:Farewell
4:Intuerlude I:Opiate soul
5:The edge of paradise
6:Wander
7:Interlude II Omen
8: Decent of the Archangel
9:Interlude III at the banquet
10:Feast of the vain
11:On the coldest winter night
12:Lost and damned
13:Helana's theme
14:Interlude IV Dawn
15:The Mourning after
16:III ways to Epica
I have fallen into the depths of power metal and it's all thanks to this album. I'm a fan of metal in genral (real metal not that fake nu crap) but I was always dubious of power metal. Then a mate of mine said "you've got to listen to this" and so I did and I was hooked.
This album tells a story, of epic proportions hence the title. As such the album is broken by small interludes to extend parts of the tale that could not be done in song.
The album kicks in with the powerful "Center of the universe" with great guitars and drums. This song instantly grabbed me but little did I nkow that it was going to get better.
The album is a mix starting with powerful heavy songs and then turns into the more sedate and moving songs such as "The mourning after" (get it, well I worry to) into the climatic a brillent "III ways to Epica".
Thomas Youngbloods guitars beautifully compliment Kahn's voice (problem with the singers name is that it makes me wants me to shout it like Shatner).
All in I think this is a great album but since I feel that one of their previous albums is better. I'm going to give it
8/10
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whoa, i just found an awesome band. that should especially interest you, spice weasel.
the band's called yakuza. they play a weird mixture of hardcore, metal aaaand... free jazz. yes, you've heard right, free jazz.
it's absolutely awesome. and very complex.
and you can get 5 songs for free on their website (http://www.yakuzadojo.com) (check the source code of the sounds site for urls of the mp3s).
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Hi, I'm new. :D. I know some of you have been Imed by me. : )
I couldn't find a thread for what music I liek, so I decided to say here. I like a lot of music. I like mostly alternitive rock. Are there any good alt. bands you guys suggest? Thankies! : []
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P.S. i use this avatar since it kind of looks like me- even though my head's not shaved. also my good friend hil made it. : []
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Originally posted by Gecko:
Hi, I'm new. :D. I know some of you have been Imed by me. : )
I couldn't find a thread for what music I liek, so I decided to say here. I like a lot of music. I like mostly alternitive rock. Are there any good alt. bands you guys suggest? Thankies! : []
alternative rock is a very broad definition. but here you go:
at the drive-in (could also be defined as post-hardcore)
the mars volta
sparta
north of america (math-/noise-rock)
the plan (math-/-noise-core with jazz elements)
jimmy eat world (do they count as alternative?)
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Originally posted by Gecko:
I like mostly alternitive rock. Are there any good alt. bands you guys suggest?
There are loads we could recommend. What specific bands are you into?
Oh, and welcome to PEEL. :D
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I highly recommend Red:Shift. Very very good British band. Their gig was one of the best I've been to without a doubt. Such nice people aswell...
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Originally posted by Archie2K:
I highly recommend Red:Shift. Very very good British band. Their gig was one of the best I've been to without a doubt. Such nice people aswell...
yeah, i totally agree. they're great.
i also heard that they send you free cds if you recommend them. (hint, melllvar, hint) ;)
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I hear their drummer's a real asshole. ;)
EDIT: I might have something for you in London, Spiff.
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What about me? I actually made the effort to come to a gig? And gave you that secret link remember. Or wait was that more punishment than present?! ;)
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Oh thank you. I have heard Red:Shift. I agree, they are really good. I would say bands simular to Jimmy Eat World as SpacemanSpiff said. I think they are a very good band because they don't care about what people think of them and that way they make good music. I'm not really sure what alt. bands I like, I don't know how to classsify them. Some alt. bands I dig are Count The Stars, Story of the Year, and stuff like that. I'll have to try out the ones you guys mentioned. : ]
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Originally posted by Archie2K:
What about me? I actually made the effort to come to a gig? And gave you that secret link remember. Or wait was that more punishment than present?! ;)
You too, dude.
I'm gonna put together a little compilation for you guys, as a 'thank you' for the support. :D
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It's gonna be a tape of Melllvar singing Queen covers isn't it...
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archie: even that would be cool. cool as in very entertaining. :p
Originally posted by Melllvar:
I hear their drummer's a real asshole. ;)
EDIT: I might have something for you in London, Spiff.
woo!
and gecko: if you like jimmy eat world, you should definitely check out sparta. they already toured together and stuff, it's pretty much the same genre.
as for the rest of the bands i've mentioned: i'm not so sure if you'll like them. :p
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Actually, I like North of America. I haven't heard the others, but thanks anyway. :)
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Originally posted by Gecko:
Actually, I like North of America. I haven't heard the others, but thanks anyway. :)
waitwaitwaitwait.
you like north of america? that means you've heard of them before?
we're talking about north of america, those guys from halifax, who released albums such as these songs are cursed, this is dancefloor numerology or brother, sisters?
the guys whose record label website is this one (http://www.rewika.com)? (with free mp3s too!)
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Go find some "Shellac" (get "Prayer To God" for starters, then - if you like it - go get some more), and if you like 20/30-minute epics, "Godspeed You Black Emperor".
Could try some Glassjaw, Earthtone9 (if you can find some), or try a new(ish) british bands called The Blueprint (formed with members of Earthtone9 and Pitchshifter).
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Yes, I have heard of them. My dad was listening to a CD I really enjoyed, though I can not remember correctly who it was, and decided to look on their web site. On their site, another band recommended was North Of America. That's how. :)
Thank you all for being very kind, I'm still finding my around here. I like this site, it's under very good control. Some of the other message boards I'm on are way out of control. :)
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gecko, man, i love you. ;)
i'm a huge fan of north of america. they're awesome musicians and really nice guys too. so everybody who likes north of america is a great guy by default, if you ask me.
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Originally posted by Gecko:
I have heard Red:Shift. I agree, they are really good.
Really?
I'm assuming Hil must've pointed you at our site. If so, thanks for that.
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i only listen to rap, as strange as that may sound.
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Hey, good to see you on PEEL, Gecko. :)
Yeah, I kinda told him PEELers have some really good music tastes, the same as him. He knows about music in the strangest ways. Good for him. :)
If only I wouldn't be so lazy and get off my ass and do a review for Thirteenth Step..I hate being lazy...
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Go ahead and review it, already. ;)
I wanna know if it's good or not.
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
Jane's Addiction - Strays
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Highly recommended. 8/10.
I'm probabaly gonna get this. I listened to the samples on Amazon, and it stood out to me, so I downloaded a few tracks to test it out. I always download some tracks off albums before I buy them to make sure I like them and don't waste my money. Anyway, I liked what I heard. Perry's voice is an aquired taste, but it's grown on me, and I really liked their overall sound. Also, some neat guitar solo styles that I haven't heard in ages. I'll probabaly check it out soon.
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Yeah, after a few listens you're used to Perry Farrell's voice, and I knew them from old-skool anyways.
What stands out on the album is (1) Dave Navarro's guitarwork is amazing, and (2) the song writing is great, and there are some amazing songs on there.
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All right, Melll, but I wouldn't trust my opinon all that much. ;) Here's the first part, more to be added on later, so stay tuned:
Thirteenth Step-
A Perfect Circle
(2003)
First off, we got a song called "The Package." Very good drumming skills displayed in it, guitar's a little slow at the beginning, it grows up though towards the end. Although it provides a good background sound for the vocals and drums. I'm not all sure, but I think I can hear some bongos in there. A perfect start to this album.
Next comes "Weak And Powerless". Moves a little faster in this song, very good guitar wise, drums are just as good as always (which is great ;) ). I preferably like bass most here, since it seems to be more driving than guitar. This song is probably one of their most "Toolish" songs, has the feel of Tool. The guitars provide a very nice touch in the chorus as well. Short but effective.
I haven't listened to the next song, "The Noose" all that much as of now. I do know the guitar are better here than the two first songs. Oddly, this song reminds me of a Travis/ Tool mixed song. Not that that's a bad thing. ;) The more I listen to it, the more it grows on me though. The song builds on layers up until the end. For me, a good song is one that creates visuals and you can identify... layers, as I call them, of rhythms.
"Blue" is an awesome, compelling song. Also very meaning full. There must be tons of symbolisim in these lyrics but I am not too great of finding that out.
"Vanishing" has some complicated vocal and drums performances, and then guitars kick in well. Drums are best thing in this song IMO. The more I listen the more I fall in love with it. It is amaing on the album, and even more so live. It is quite arty and great to just listen to and makes you apperciate music.
"A Stranger" Starts off with a pretty performance of bass guitar, and vocals mix in nicely with it. Also a very meaningful song. I haven't listened to it much, so more to be added. Sort of emotional at the end, it grows on you.
"The Outsider" is a very good, louder song one of my favorite tracks. It's a faster pace, which I always enjoy. Drums have a spectacular performance, as well as guitars. This song was obviously worked on for quite a while... well, maybe not the lyrics, but I enjoy Billy's guitar patterns at different parts in the song.
"Crimes" starts off with "hard" drums, and some nice guitar touches here and there. Iha's guitar plays a very beautiful melody, if you are intent enough to catch it. Although I do not like vocals in this song at all, if you call them lyrics.
"The Nurse Who Loved Me" 9Vandals cove rI believe) is more a vocal performance, I can make out violins well. It's slow, no drums are used, I'll add more to this part later on.
This song here, "Pet," is so incredible, I love it to death. The guitar cover is hauntingly spectacular. Vocals are also astonishing, drums also fascinating. I wish my band could make a song as incredible as this one. Musical wise, it may not be the best song of the album but it creates a flattering melody.
Haven't listened to "Lullaby" all that much, but drums are what keep it together. They don't change much but add to this song what makes it good. Actually, I don't like it all that much. It only consists of drums and some vocal "rolls" pulled from time to time (by the cute little Devo).
"Gravity" is the last track, done very nicley. Drums are very very nice, maybe their best performance next to "Pet." The guitars add nice touches, although they're not the best. Vocals also very nice to listen to. I love the bass on this song. This song is also quite uplifting, as my interpretation of it is as being the 12th step, the realiation and trying to get back on track.
Overall, I'd say this album is more artsy, which is great, than Mer De Noms, justa totally different atmosphere. Myabe better, maybe worse- I can't decide, but a different mood. Get this album if you like the artier side of Tool... I'd reccoemnd it to Radiohead, Nin, Smashing Pumpkins, Vandals, Guns And Roses, Cure, Drive In, Mars Volta, Burning Brides, Year Of The Rabbit, and etc fans. Filled with Freese's excellent drum-whoreick skills, Billy's hard pounding guitar, Iha's softer yet more medolic guitar, Jeordie's outfront bass that leads some songs, and Maynard's wailing and humming, this album is a true keeper.
9/10
There, more like a review then previous reviews I've done. :)
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Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff:
gecko, man, i love you. ;)
i'm a huge fan of north of america. they're awesome musicians and really nice guys too. so everybody who likes north of america is a great guy by default, if you ask me.
I like North of America. Not easy stuff to find in the US, though. I haven't stopped playing "Brothers, Sisters" since I got my new turntable. That and the Hellacopters.
Edit: I missed a lot here. I brought up Dillinger Escape Plan earlier in the thread too. I used to know those guys. They're good. I like Yakuza, too, but only in the abstract. I don't own any of their stuff.
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Even the cops can't stop me.
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I heard the new single from "Desert Sessions", Josh Homme (from Queens Of The Stone Age)'s side-project. Featuring PJ Harvey. The single "Crawl Home" is a shared vocal between the two, and is one of a few tracks on the album which Polly Harvey sings on.
First listen and I like it. I read a mixed review of the album, but I'll hold out for more.
In my eyes, Josh Homme can do no wrong.
Hey, that rhymed.
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Last Night I watched Limp Bizkit on concert on MTV. This made me realise that they got a new single coming out call eat you alive.
I have heard this song and I thought it was really Good. I also seen the video to it. and Fred Durst sure looks different then the last time and saw him on TV.
it is good that Limp Bizkit are back into music again
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Personally I think Eat You Alive is really good compaired to older stuff. You actually got Fred singing in it (besides screaming or rapping).
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Why hasn't someone shot Fred Durst yet...?
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i don't think he deserves to be shot. it's such a fast and painless death.
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Originally posted by Juliet:
it is good that Limp Bizkit are back into music again
Gah?
Stay tuned for a review of Jet!! (once my friend burns it for me) :p
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Why do you guys have the problems with Fred Durst?
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Originally posted by Juliet:
Why do you guys have the problems with Fred Durst?
Because he's a big fat sellout. That band died when Wes Borland left.
The new stuff I've heard is pretty dull, I'm disappointed in what I've heard on the new album. Perhaps Wes' inhibitive attitude towards what Fred was doing in the band, is what made them more interesting and dynamic.
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I saw the 'Eat You Alive' video a while ago. Fred Durst sure looks different, and the music sounds quite different too. I liked the slightly more traditional approach, but unfortunately it was borrowed tradition. Good for them for slightly changing their direction and approach, bad for them for copying and watering down better stuff from before them. I don't hate it, and I don't love it either, it's alright, but that's it. That's my opinion anyway :)
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
Because he's a big fat sellout. That band died when Wes Borland left.
But he not fat anymore.
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I've seen their new video and heard their new song too. That song is too unstructured. It just doesn't seem to flow somehow. Its not terrible, but I'm not too keen on it either. I dont like the video either, it doesn't make sense. It certainly sounds a lot different from their previous material though. I guess its cool that they're going for a slightly different sound. But it just doesn't seem to suit them really :)
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Originally posted by ghoulishmoose:
I dont like the video either, it doesn't make sense.
I think it about him kipnaped his ex girlfriend and he telling her that he sorry and maybe the cops or the girlfriend dad is looking for him.
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I must admit, I thought the vid was quite good, not the best, better than a lot though. Nice colours, and well directed, changing in emotion and mood. Fred Durst seems to have a pretty clear view on the direction side of things. Also, I noticed a similarity between this, and the 'Falling Away From Me' video he directed for KoRn. Those circular suspended ball lights, it just made me think of that KoRn video he directed, straight away for some reason :)
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Yeah the colours are nice, there's nice lighting and there's a real Autumn feel to the video. But I'm really not keen on the actual concept myself :)
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They're missing Wes Borland's guitarwork in that band. Time will tell whether they should've fought to keep him in the band. But for now, the new stuff is dull and formulaic.
EDIT: Anyone else sick of Fred pimping his Hollywood Buds in the video?
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Was that Thora Birch in the new video. It looked a lot like her? :)
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Yeah it's her, and Bill Paxton is there also.
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I thought it was Britney Murphy in there. But they all look the same to me.
I admit, when I was like 14, I was into Limp Bizkit's first CD. Perhaps it's just a maturing process, but each subsequent album just appeals to me less and less. This new song of theirs, it's not really bad or even laughably bad. It's just boring. It's like that other song they have (who's name I forgot) -- there's no structure or hooks to it.
The real problem with Limp Bizkit's new stuff is that they cover/butcher The Who's "Behind Blue Eyes." That's just inexcusable. No more "wacky ironic cover songs," okay?
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Originally posted by evan:
The real problem with Limp Bizkit's new stuff is that they cover/butcher The Who's "Behind Blue Eyes." That's just inexcusable. No more "wacky ironic cover songs," okay?
Agreed. Totally.
I've been into them since the first album, and there's been a falloff in their quality in each album they've put out.
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Listening to Electric Six - The Bomb right now which I downloaded.
I thought it was ok.
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Originally posted by Otis P. Jivefunk:
I saw the 'Eat You Alive' video a while ago. Fred Durst sure looks different, and the music sounds quite different too. I liked the slightly more traditional approach, but unfortunately it was borrowed tradition. Good for them for slightly changing their direction and approach, bad for them for copying and watering down better stuff from before them. I don't hate it, and I don't love it either, it's alright, but that's it. That's my opinion anyway :)
Same here. I never really liked 'em, but I don't absoultetely hate 'em. I surely would not waste my money and get their album though. :)
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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
Stay tuned for a review of Jet!! (once my friend burns it for me) :p
And unlike "Thermonuclear Devices R' Us", I do deliver, and here it is:
Jet - Get Born. (http://www.undercover.com.au/pics/cdjetgetborn.jpg)
Track Listing:
1. Last Chance
2. Are You Gonna Be My Girl
3. Roll Over DJ
4. Look What You've Done
5. Get What You Need
6. Move On
7. Radio Song
8. Get Me Outta Here
9. Cold Hard Bitch
10. Come Around Again
11. Take It Or Leave It
12. Lazy Gun
13. Timothy
Apparently I missed all the hype about this Aussie band and their highly anticipated 1st album *whooshing noise over head* (possibly out-hyped by The Darkness).
Anyway, I like it, although it's not the most original album you'll find.
You'll notice similarities instantly to other bands/musicians (Iggy Pops' Lust for Life in track 2).
Also, a certain Beatles song which I can't place (until I hear it again) has a near identical twin sister song around the middle of the album but everybody likes The Beatles, so why the hell not?
My favourites are Rollover DJ and Are You Gonna Be My Girl.
They sure like their deep guitar riffs and catchy rythms and that's why it get's 8/10.
Give it a listen. Pwease?
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Am I the only one who doesn't think that the Bizkit sucks? I like the new album. It's not their best, but I like it. It's alot more deep than the other albums. I didn't like the CD when I first heard it, but after I listened to it for a while and let it sink in, I found it quite enjoyable. And be mindful that the band recorded over 30 songs and only 16 got on the album. The best is yet to come.
Oh yeah. I saw them in the Summer Sanitarium tour when it was in my town, and I thought they kicked ass.
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Originally posted by Juliet:
Why do you guys have the problems with Fred Durst?
Partly because he's a corporate whore, a dim-witted egomaniac and a cock-rock-frat-boy tool, but mostly because of his choice of tattoos. Complete moron.
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^ That should be Durst's biography. Bravo.
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Originally posted by SlaytanicMaggot:
SYX-A COLD BREATH OF WHAT IT TAKES
A local band from Portland, Oregon. They've definitely improved from their last album. Beautiful and major-label quality production, stunning for an independent release.
I am slightly biased in favor of this band because I know them, but even so, they still kick ass (and their live show? DAMN! They played a bowling alley and still had a pit!)
Good find, Slay. This is probably my second favorite sort of music, right behind the punk/ska style used by Five Iron Frenzy and Relient K.
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The Dillinger Escape Plan with Mike Patton
Irony is a Dead Scene
2002 Epitaph
Total running time: 18:01
Track List:
Hollywood Squares
Pig Latin
When Good Dogs Do Bad Things
Come To Daddy
Four releases deep into their sparce discography, DEP gives up their third EP. Their only full length release being the monumental (and I stress mental) "Calculating Infinity" With the departure of their manic,insane vocalist Dimitri Minikakis. They were on the lookout for another voice. Enter manic, insane vocalist extrordinare Mike Patton.
With stints in such diverse projects as Faith No More, Mr. Bungle, Tomahawk, Fantomas and Maldoror. Mike Patton has cemented his reputation as one of the most innovative, annoying and impressive set of vocal cords in music.
The Dillinger Escape Plan has always been about cacophonous, scatterbrained, intensly technical grindy hardcore. Their breakneck speed, off key tempo changes and jazzy math rock atrocities have been both hailed and dismissed by the extreme Metal community. DEP is not for people with short attention spans, or low test scores. This type of noise requires, patience, perspective and a slightly skewed perception of 'pleasing to the ear sounds' to fully appreciate.
Irony is a Dead Scene hits you upside the head from the opening riff of "Hollywood Squares" and takes you on an 18 minute roller coaster ride through a twisted unrelenting four song lesson in why punishing the listener is sometimes the path to true enlightenment. Mike Patton yells, screams, whispers, yelps, hisses, sings, chants and mumbles his way through the musical maelstrom with the ease of an old aquaintance. It appears to me, that these two entities were destined to hook up. This is a strong, multi faceted release of grating hardcore, offset by jazzy, proggy interminglings of clean guitars, samples and choppy blasts of sheer insanity. Shades of former Relapse labelmates "East West Blast Test" make appearences as well as the demented ramblings of "System Of A Down" if taken to a hideous extreme. This is a strong, modern, ugly, powerful and agressive expierience.
The songs themselves are multi-layered and always pop up unexpected and rewarding moments sure to raise an eyebrow or a fist. The songlist consists of three originals and a fucking unreal cover of Aphex Twin's "Come To Daddy".
Trough all of this organized chaos shines the outstanding drumming of Chris Pennie. You can set your watch to his precise and crushing time signatures throughout.
To sum up. One hell of a release. This will appeal to anyone that hates the generic NU-Metal scene and those who walk past constuction sites and pause for a moment just to listen to the jackhammers.
Standout Track: When Good Dogs Do Bad Things.
To be precise, I give it an 8.375/10
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thank you.
thank you for this review. the dillinger escape plan rule and i couldn't agree more with the stuff you said about them. and when god dogs do bad things is indeed one fucking great track.
Originally posted by Spice Weasel:
DEP is not for people with short attention spans, or low test scores.
hell yeah. best part of the review. ;)
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Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff:
and when god dogs do bad things is indeed one fucking great track.
'tis my favorite track. ;)
great review SW.
This type of noise requires, patience, perspective and a slightly skewed perception of 'pleasing to the ear sounds' to fully appreciate.
i listen to different music and i have music for every mood. when i'm pissed i dont want to listen to something slow and relaxing or "pleasing", i need something angry like hardcore. i dont think i'd listen to Dillinger whole day, 'cause hardcore is not my favorite genre of music, but it doesn't make it less awesome. i still like it the dillinger escape plan.
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After just getting into the Dillenger Escape Plan right before the first review, I have to agree with all the praise they've been getting. While I can understand that the DEP might not be for everyone, it certainly appeals to me.
And, because of the beauty of the internet, I've got enough Dillenger and North of America to last a while. Thanks, PEEL!
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yeah, i have to agree with that. thanks to peel, i've been introduced to such fine bands as shellac, tenacious d or the dillinger escape plan. and the best thing is: those bands led me to other great bands (dep -> yakuza, for example).
i think we should thank ourselves for this.
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Yeah, I do a lot of spreading of the word, of bands I've got into through PEEL.
Last time I DJ'ed I stuck in some Shikari (Indoctrinating the kids, love it!)
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Metallica - St. Anger ...or as one reviewer put it, St. Anguish!!!
I don't own this album, and haven't heard it either. The only track I've heard is the title track, and I was extremely disappointed. It put me off buying this album, but I thought maybe I shouldn't dismiss it because of one track. So I went to the Amazon.com reviews section to get some more opinions, and I found some of the funniest reviews I've ever read! Don't get me wrong, I love Metallica, but I'm extremely relieved I read up first.
Here's some of the best and funniest qoutes from numurous reviews on Amazon...
"There should be a big party where everyone can get together and throw their burning copy of this waste of plastic into the big garbage can that Lars was using for a snare drum on this record."
"Music flows through your ears and gets into your soul, but this just go through my body straigth to the toilet."
"When the radio DJ said, "Well that's the new one from Metallica", I puked all over my lap and all over my car."
"(what the hell is James doing towards the end of "Invisible Kid", somebody torturing a cat?)"
"If we quit feeding the Metallica Money Machine, we can get them to stop making self-indulgent albums like this."
"There was no 0 stars so I had to give it a 1."
"Write better music and don't record it in a restroom!"
"we all have the right to ask, "Geez Lars, what the #@$# happened?"
"This cd is a joke. Do these clowns think this actually sounds good? This cd is crap, the sound is awful."
"The lyrics seem that they were written by a thirteen year old kid."
"Lars's horrible use of this high tom drum throughout is enough to want to bury your head in the sand."
"they should withdrow it from all shops, and release something to erase this bad memory."
"there is only one word to describe this friggan album: SUCKED."
"Thank you Metallica for creating such a fine piece of "work." Someone kill me now."
"Some new drum Lars got that has a very metallic thunk sound to it. It is in every single song on the CD, and it drowns out the music. Wait! What music? Apparently..."
"If you see it displayed in a record store, turn around and run screaming from the place. It is THAT BAD."
"If the US army would have played this music in Iraq they would have surrendered in about an hour. It is that bad!!!"
"If your gonna make a stink about everything fom Napster to Jethro Tull - put out a decent Fu@$#@ cd !!!"
"Even the production makes it sound ridiculous let alone the music itself. Avoid."
"My Metallica collection will do just fine without this atrocity."
"Is Lars playing drums or is he just banging garbage can lids together?"
"If you did buy it, throw it away. If you didn't buy it, congratulations."
"All throughout the songs you hear 'Ping! Ping! Ping!' on every beat. I felt like I was playing Pong."
"Good God this album is awful! If this is the kind of tripe that James Hetfield comes up with when he is sober then I say pass him the bottle of Jack Daniels."
"Guys, if you are reading this- you deserve to be downloaded, this is trash."
"Lars quit bangin' on a coffee can. You ruined the whole album."
"OK, una sola palabra para describirlo: TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!"
"St. Anger is one of the worst CDs I've ever encountered."
"Selloutica they are."
"Its like watching Formula 1 champions switching to bicycle racing in the kiddie league!"
"Best tracks: NONE!"
"Stop trying to sing like Jon Bon Jovi. You don't have the vocal range!"
"lyrics that sound like they were written by a retarded child."
"I think all of the inmates from the St. Anger video should kick the band and the producer's butt for making such an awful record."
"and the fact that Lars's drumming sounds like a prodigal two-year-old banging on pots and pans in a kitchen, this album is pretty much unlistenable."
"sound like a jam", IT IS ACTUALLY A JAM (a bad one, that is...)"
"It sounds like a group of teenagers pounding on garbage cans."
"Imagine my dismay upon hearing for the first time this utter dross that is the new Metallica cd."
"If time travel were possible, one could send the old band--James, Lars, Kirk, and Cliff--forward in time to 2003 and tell them to make the most dreadful piece of music they possibly could, and even that would be worlds more listenable than this sonic garbage. It is utterly ridiculous!"
"I'll probably never listen to it again."
:laff:
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I dunno, I listened to it, and it's not as bad as these people imply, but I certainly won't compare it to Metallica's "real" stuff. Then again, I'm never really critical with Metallica. I'd pick it over many other albums.
Tehn again, it could grow on you. I must admit, I was disappointed in Radiohead's newest, and when "warning" by Green Day came around I was also dissappointed. I've grown to love these though.
EDIT: Some of those are rather funny indeed. My favorite is "Music flows through your ears and gets into your soul, but this just go through my body straigth to the toilet." :laff:
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I wrote a review of it (it's on page one of this thread), after I bought it, and I'm still not that enamoured with it. The drum sounds is too Demo-y.
Someone should tell Lars, they're not The White Stripes.
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The title track off the new Metallica album was dreadful (and the video), so logically if the first single is the strongest track then the rest of the album must be... :puke:
Good music however, an English singer-songwriter named Tom McRae... he may be verbally ripping our hypocritical world to shreds but he sounds damn good as he does it. :)
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The "push it back, push it back" line might be the funniest bit of the song. I think that's what makes St. Anger so funny -- it's unapologetically making fun of itself. If only Lars and Co. knew that's what they were doing.
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Moving along, time for a review, and I've been meaning to do this one for a while. Seeing as I'm spending a lot of time listening to this band at the moment, seems a good time to do it:
Pink Floyd - The Wall/Is There Anybody Out There? (Live)
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EMI/Harvest 1979 (1999 for the live album)
Tracklist:
1) In The Flesh?
2) The Thin Ice
3) Another Brick In The Wall (Part 1)
4) The Happiest Days Of Our Lives
5) Another Brick In The Wall (Part 2)
6) Mother
7) Goodbye Blue Sky
8) Empty Spaces (What Shall We Do Now?)
9) Young Lust
10) One Of My Turns
11) Don't Leave Me Now
12) Another Brick In The Wall (Part 3)
13) Goodbye Cruel World
14) Hey You
15) Is There Anybody Out There?
16) Nobody Home
17) Vera
18) Bring The Boys Back Home
19) Comfortably Numb
20) The Show Must Go On
21) In The Flesh?
22) Run Like Hell
23) Waiting For The Worms
24) Stop
25) The Trial
26) Outside The Wall
It's 1977, and you're in Montreal's Olympic Stadium, you're playing a huge gig in one of the biggest bands in the world, in front of 50,000 people. They're all screaming, and one guy down the front is having the time of his life, shouting and screaming through each and every song. What do you do? If your name is Roger Waters, you spit in his face, that's what!
Such is the catalyst for one of the most popular concept albums of all time.
But it's not just that. You've managed to alienate yourself from the rest of your bandmates, and you've got this big chip on your shoulder about the death of your father, your relationship with your mother, your failed marriage, and being humiliated by bastard teachers at school. So let's pour it all out, in a one huge cathartic swoop. Surely killing all the birds with one stone.
Well, no. The making of this album was tortuous also. Roger Waters singularly picked out keyboardist Rick Wright as the one member who was in his way and stopping him from completing his meisterwork, and therefore (using the tapes of The Wall as ransom) pushed to have Wright removed from the band. Wright agreed to stay on for the tour of the album, but as a hired-hand, and thus received a paycheck for the shows.
Waters maintains that the story of The Wall is not just autobiographical, there are bits from the life of Syd Barrett and various things from the life of other rock stars.
So, to the album itself. What's it all about? This is the story of Pink, a rock star who shuts himself in his hotel room, and shuts out the outside world. Therefore building a "Wall" around himself. Citing as "Bricks" in this wall, his father being killed in the second world war (Roger Waters' father, Eric Fletcher Waters died at the Anzio Bridgehead in 1944, as he was in the frontline, Royal Fusiliers Company C, who were all killed in a surprise German counter-attack), his treatment at school, and being molly-coddled by his mother.
The music around the time featured as an influence for some of the tracks. Bob Ezrin (producer) deserved credit for turning Another Brick In The Wall (Part II) into an up-tempo track with a disco-beat. Thus garnering a No.1 spot for the band, also making famous the kids of the Islington Green School, who sang on the chorus.
From the first "In The Flesh" up to "Goodbye Cruel World" deals with the building of the wall, and all of the causes therein. Then the second half of the album deals with the recriminations and upheavals of living behind one's own wall, culmination in Pink's own self-trial, and the tearing down of the wall.
However, disturbing aspects of the album are the inclusion of turning Pink into a fascist demogogue, which is the manifestation of the perception that stadium rock shows owe more to Nuremburg rallies than they do to smaller, more intimate forms of performance art. The second "In The Flesh" singles out all minorities for it's backlash.
Standout tracks are the aforementioned, Both "In The Flesh"'s, "Another Brick In The Wall (Part II)", "Hey You", "Comfortably Numb" (surely some of the best guitarwork David Gilmore has committed to tape, ever!), "Run Like Hell", and from the 1999 Live album the segue of "Empty Spaces" and "What Shall We Do Now" - the latter having been removed from the studio album for narrative reasons, but is put back for the shows, and for the movie.
At the first few listens, I found this album quite hard work, but once you get past that, it's a compelling listen. It sticks out as a larger-than-life album, and will stand the test of time.
A classic.
8.5/10
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Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff:
gecko, man, i love you.
I love you too, man. ;)
I have to say thanks to PEEL because it's introduced me into many more cool bands.
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Sorry to dig up old topics, but...
Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
I totally agree that LP and Eva are really different. For a start, LP aren't gothic. Unfortunately people like to catergorise things and shove them in boxes with labels on them. That's why stupid statements like them being LP with a girl get made.
The fact that they're both easy to categorise in the same genre of music means that they aren't totally different.
But there are some differences between Linkin Park and Evanescence that haven't been addressed.
First off, LP's verses are a lot more rap orientated whereas Eva's verses feature Amy singing about 0.8% less melodramatically than in the choruses (sic?).
Secondly, LP's sound pallette is a lot broader than Eva's, so it doesn't quite sound like you're listening to the same song over and over again until you get to the chorus.
And finally, whilst both bands feature unconvincing, melodramatic choruses in nearly all their songs, Amy's voice is at least an octave higher than the LP lead singer's, making it even more unpleasant to listen to.
Hope that cleared things up. :cool:
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0.8% less dramatically? Did you work that out?
In Other News:
@Gecko: If you're still looking for some decent alt-rock bands, I'd recommend UKian emo-core bands Funeral For A Friend, and Hell Is For Heroes.
Specifically, go "find" FFAF's Juneau and HIFH's I Can Climb Mountains, and go from there.
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Metallica were alright before they soul-ed out...
sued Napster got greedy......and piled lawsuits on everyone.....
I lisened to the previews on amazon.....this garabage is not even worth Downloading!
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
0.8% less dramatically? Did you work that out?
Nah. I just went with the low percentage to symbolise the lack of a difference. Dramatically. ;)
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus:
Hope that cleared things up. :cool:
What a steamer, the faeces bin's over there :p
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Why would I care where your house is? :p
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You're not using my toilet, get your own! :p
...oh right, it overflowed ;)
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And I wonder whose fault that is? You've only got yourself to blame for the new policy: "I catch your cack, you catch mine." :cool:
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Boulderdash, I never agreed to that! :p
And back on topic, I'll edit this post later.
edit - and here we are...
Janes Addiction - Strays
2003
Melll already reviewed this album, which contributed to me checking it out in the first place. Track listing etc, are already in his review, I'm lazy. Anyway, Unlike Melll though, I wasn't fimiliar with this band before thier reformation. All I ever knew about them was that Perry was going to originally sing on the Prodigy track 'Climbatize', but couldn't because of conflicting schedules. If anyones interested, he's supposed to be collaborating on the new Prodigy album, whenever the hell that ever comes out.
Anyway, and onto the review. I got this album a week ago today, just about enough time to get really into it. I love their sound, it's really unique. The opening track, 'True Nature' really rocks this album off, it's the heaviest track on the album. I love the way the opposites of heaviness, and Perry's sharp voice mix so seamlessly together, It really works, and it's really unique.
Something that really stands out on this album is the song structure. there's a lot of varieation, experimentation, and tempo changes. They're really well written songs, and there's always something new after the last track finished. There's some awesome guitar solos, the kind I haven't heard on any new albums for years. It's kinda got an 80's flavour in parts, but not in a cheesey bad way, it really works and adds new dimension to the tracks. It still sounds fresh and modern too, some really interesting combinations of old and new sounds and styles.
This album rocks, and is kinda funky too. It takes a while to get used to Perry's voice, but once you do, it's rewarding. Not every track is amazing, but none of them are really bad either :)
8/10
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I would like to write a music review but considering my tastes aren't nu-metal, nu-punk or Britpop, coupled with the fact that hardly anyone has heard of the records I like, it would just be rather self-indulgent. :(
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Do it anyway, I don't think any of the rest of us worry about that.
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Has "nu-" become a symonym for "shite"? :p
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Not deliberately. ;)
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Not Necessarily.
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus:
I would like to write a music review but considering my tastes aren't nu-metal, nu-punk or Britpop, coupled with the fact that hardly anyone has heard of the records I like, it would just be rather self-indulgent. :(
I've heard of quite a bit. My collection is 700 cds and growing, covering many genres. Write a review, let us indulge in your oh so eclectic tastes.
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus:
I would like to write a music review but considering my tastes aren't nu-metal, nu-punk or Britpop, coupled with the fact that hardly anyone has heard of the records I like, it would just be rather self-indulgent. :(
Um, do you see anyone here endorsing nu-metal or nu-punk? I personally like the Britpop, but there's no problem with that.
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Well, I've actually listened to St. Anger, the whole album for myself now. My friend lent it to me on minidisc today. My opinions however, are all pretty much already summed up in the quotes I posted above. Terrible production, barely any structure to the songs, they go on and on way too long, awful lyrics, and some sell out stuff thrown in too.
But there are a few redeming points, few as they are though. The first track 'Frantic' is not too bad, it's pretty clool actually. The terrible production doesn't hlp it, nor the fact it carry's on past it's sell-by date. But it's got some really nice riffing, and is damn heavy. Which brings me to about the only other good thing I can say about this album. There's some pretty good riffs here and there, it's just a pity they don't fit into the songs :)
2/10
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I'm happy you've managed to listen to the whole album now :)
I gotta admit, I'm not keen on 'Frantic' at all I'm afraid. I heard it earlier on this week and just turned it off. ;)
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...And to think, that's the best thing on the album... ;)
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What do you do, Otis, follow GM around? ;) You're always posting next to each other in the same threads! It's like you guys are mysteriously linked in some way...
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What do you do, follow us around to even notice things like that?...
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... No...
*runs*
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In other news: Thanks Otis for checking out "Strays", based on the review I posted. It's a great album, and I like your spin on it.
St. Anger was another one I reviewed, and I haven't listened to it much since buying it.
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
What do you do, follow us around to even notice things like that?...
Er, he isn't the only one...
And I'm not the second one...
Hell a certain PEELer even deduced who I was secretly speaking to separatrly from PEEL by a couple of posts next to each other in a couple of threads... why am I all nostalgic today?
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This is a music review thread, not couples reviews...
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Um, this isn't quite a music review, but I was getting some Aphex Twin stuff online today. Apparently Aphex Twin's music is used in the background of an "anti-drug" ad. (I believe it was 54 Cyrmv Beats from "Drukqs" ) Am I the only one who finds this odd in the least?
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I've just heard the new Lostprophets single 'Burn Burn', and it's alright. But they've totally stolen one of Seal's vocal harmonies out of 'Killer'. What were they thinking! Did they not think people would notice such a strong and powerful harmony? Covering it up with guitars just doesn't work guys. I hope the rest of your album has more originality.
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Originally posted by evan:
Um, this isn't quite a music review, but I was getting some Aphex Twin stuff online today. Apparently Aphex Twin's music is used in the background of an "anti-drug" ad. (I believe it was 54 Cyrmv Beats from "Drukqs" ) Am I the only one who finds this odd in the least?
Considering that he smokes weed and has taken ecstacy, it is weird.
Other commercials his music has featured in: tires (Pirelli if I'm not mistaken) and computers (HP servers I think)
Have you seen the Ventolin video? It makes me feel very uncomfortable, as I used to be an asthmatic myself, and I had to take Ventolin too.
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I heard that new Strokes single, and I'm pleased to say it's a pile of arse!
"Best Band On The Planet" - who are they kidding? They're like a Pulp covers band, except without Jarvis' charisma and showmanship.
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I feel like writing a review. And here it is:
Pain of Salvation- The Perfect Element Pt. 1
(http://freespace.virgin.net/nursery.cryme/tpe.jpg)
1. Used
2. In the Flesh
3. Ashes
4. Morning on Earth
5. Idioglossia
6. Her Voices
7. Dedication
8. King of Loss
9. Reconciliation
10. Song for the Innocent
11. Falling
12. Perfect Element
I had heard PoS' latest album Remedy Lane before this, but this is only three years old now and still pretty fresh stuff from the Swedish prog-metal group. Like all PoS' albums The Perfect Element is a concept album, in this case it is about childhood, innocence and the things that shape us as we grow up. The second part will seemingly deal with adolesence and adulthood.
Remedy Lane dealt with some dark issues, but The Perfect Element manages to be even darker both lyrically and musically. It has more metal influences, particularly thrash metal, and the lyrics focus on child abuse, strained relationships with parents, broken hearts and death. Cheerful stuff then.
Despite this, it is still a very good album (or, to me at least) and amongst the darker, heavier sections come some beautiful moments. Some call it cheese, but I love it. The best songs from this album would be 'Used' (alternating between thrash metal and prog), 'Idioglossia', 'King of Loss' and 'The Perfect Element'. If I can find anything wrong with this album, it's that maybe PoS have made a niche and are sticking to it- and it may start to get repetitive soon.
8/10
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Preliminary Review of "Another Postcard" from BNL's new album Everything to Everyone
I first heard this song while flipping through radio stations trying to find something good amid the tons and tons of crap. Initially, I was disappointed. The rap/dance/crap interludes threw me for a loop. The intro actually made me think it was going to be an Eminem song. As soon as Ed started laying down the spoken part, I was immediately reminded of "One Week". It was only after hearing the song a few more times that I realized both were fairly accurate impressions.
For those of you not familiar with BNL's work, their songs have exactly two gears: dramatically serious, and comedically serious. Classic examples of the former include "Brian Wilson", "Call and Answer", and "The Flag". It is unfortunate that most of BNL's most popular songs fall into the latter category, as many of their best songs belong in the first. Some of the most popular comedic BNL songs include "One Week" and "If I Had $1,000,000". The reason I labeled both categories as 'serious' is because, in one way or another, they deal with a weighty situation or idea. "Brian Wilson" deals with depression, while "One Week" chronicles an argument between two life partners. "Another Postcard" seems to fit well into the comedic classification.
As I mentioned above, the song begins with an introduction that smacks of Eminem's style. The first lyrics are half-sung/half-spoken by Ed (Robertson) and set up the main theme of song: someone is obsessively sending him monkey/chimpanzee postcards. This coupled with the rap-style instrumentals is how I first drew the connection to Eminem's "Stan". Naturally, this isn't really a parody, and I don't even know if the similarities were intentional, but it's fun to speculate that this is how BNL percieves rap.
While "Another Postcard" isn't one of their best songs, it is a catchy tune with Ed's signature tounge-twisting pseudo-singing. In short it has worked its way into my playlist.
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Overclocked Remixes (http://www.ocremix.org)
How come nobody told me about this? This could fit in the Parasites Linked thread, I know, but since since it's music related I thought it might fit better here.
Thanks to this site, I've been able to experience all the great music on PlayStation games I've missed out on thanks to never owning one of their systems. Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasty; I never knew that the quality was so high for these games musically.
They've even got remixes of music I'd never think anyone would bother with, including a couple great remixes of Goldeneye 007 music, and Monkey Island music! I :love: this site now.
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
I heard that new Strokes single, and I'm pleased to say it's a pile of arse!
"Best Band On The Planet" - who are they kidding? They're like a Pulp covers band, except without Jarvis' charisma and showmanship.
[Prodigy]Fuck the Strokes[/Prodigy]
Q magazine gave their new album 5 stars, the highest possible score. It only gives about 4 or 5 albums a year 5 stars, if that. I'm never taking Q magazine seriously ever again!
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That's drinks for Melllvar and Otis now.
I kind of liked The Strokes first single Last Night. It was fun and uptempo. Then again I thought the video was all a big joke, a la The Darkness. The past identikit songs though have left me cold as space. I see them as The White Stripes without the talent of Jack.
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That's how many drinks now?
Glad we're agreed. I don't understand the level and intensity of hype given to bands like The Strokes, I really don't. It's epitomises everything I hate about music journalism, it's a veritable band-wagon machine, with every fucker jumping on claiming "they heard them first". When the new "fad" bands release any old pile of shite and they fawn over it, like it's a work of genius.
Jesus, the new Strokes single is so weak it's barely able to make it out of the speaker.
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I though 'Jack' was the amount of talent the bloke from The White Stripes claimed ownership of.
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Phixx - Hold On Me
From a new boy band that didn't made it from pop idol. The song is really good and I cant get the tune out of my head.
They have a really sexy video that goes with it.
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You know that tune in Beyonce's Crazy in Love, did she steal that from some other song?
It sounds familiarlyity.
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I never did take an interest in the Strokes and the new song doesn't help...
I'm thinking of a review for Indestructable as soon as I get 'nuff info on all the songs. I only just got it. :)
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I make it 7zillion and five. But since you're driving, we'll round down to 1 shall we?
So, did you like Sum 41's Strokes parody? It always made me laugh that the song is much more complex and downright interesting, and it's played by a teenage punk band.
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As someone who actually likes The Strokes...
Okay, since I stopped listening to the radio, I haven't heard the new song. I mean, The Strokes are highly overrated and pretentioius, but they're still aright. I mean, at least they're better than Sum 41 (and that song sucks, btw.)
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I like one song by Sum 41, only since I can do a cover for it. :D. otherwise I could do without them. They're not that horrible, I can stand them. Except for Hell Song. I ahte that one.
Just wanted to share some Sum 41 crap with you guys. I think they're too teenage-y for me, and if they are for me, they are for you guys. :)
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My opinion of bands like Blink182 and Sum 41 originally was that they were simply boybands with guitars, but then Busted came along and made that image a reality. :hmpf:
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Yes, I always thought of Blink as a boy band with rock instruments. Actually Blink's drummer isn't half bad, and if not for Sum's just annoying-ence, they wouldn't be the worst thing.
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I just don't like it. Punk used to be a much more creative genre, but those kinda bands have taken it completely out of context.
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I'm not sure I'd call it punk, if Blink 182 were punk than the whole world would stop spinning. I'm not good with rock classifications, but as far as I see it, they're just some teenage bands who need to learn about the industry. Not saying I know that experience, but I can see this kind of stuff. :)
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be happy it's still not Avril Lavigne's 'punk'.
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Well that's why I say they've taken it out of context: they're puerile and yet they're not really anti-anything except originality and musicianship.
BTW, if in doubt when it comes to genres, make up your own. E.g. The Hives = retard rock, AFI = melodramatic rock and so on. ;)
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Blink 182 = Almost boy-band with guitar
Good Charlotte = Boy band with guitar
U2 = Now Pop-Rock. Used to be Rock, then Alternative/Rock.
Radiohead = Alternative
I'm not an expert, but I have MY classifications sorted out...
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What's goint to come next... can't play their instruments? Failed the O-Town audition?
Oh, trying to sort every band into a neat pigeon holed category of good and shite. In other words, everything I like is grewat, and everything you like is shit, and everything you discovered after me sold out.
It's like talking to my retarded school friends again. "No you can't date her, she's just a wannabe skater".
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You know, there's a perfectly good reason why we slag off genres. Genres are basically a set of unwritten rules that artists and bands follow in order to become a part of that group and if you don't like those rules then why the hell should you pretend you do? It's not MY fault that bands choose to sound as samey and predictable as they do! :p
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Originally posted by Alexvilagosh:
Blink 182 = Almost boy-band with guitar
Good Charlotte = Boy band with guitar
I'd actually have those reversed. I think both do in their own way, but Blink sounds more like a boy band. If you've heard their new song, you'll see what I mean. Ugh.
I heard some where that Green Day is a Good Charlotte influence? Can this be? NO! :cry:
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And Rancid stuck up for Good Charlotte, and the scary looking one features in the Fall Back Down video. Oh no, better start hating them too.
@Mouse On Venus: Sorry Mr. So-Eclectic Music tastes. I wont step on your uniform generalisations again.
Ahem, anyway Spiff a UK band have recently emerged that I think you'll like. Sikth - wierd as hell, energetic as hell, and I bloody love em. I'll write a review once I get la album.
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Oh yea, that guy did look like Benji, in the vid, aye? I was wondering...
I don't see how you can hate a band since they stick up for another one...it's their opinon. Well, I guess it depends. But it's no reason not to like Rancid. :)
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Originally posted by Futurama_Hil:
I don't see how you can hate a band since they stick up for another one...it's their opinon. Well, I guess it depends. But it's no reason not to like Rancid. :)
exactly.. as far as I know, he's just a friend of the band, so in my opinion it doesn't matter what kind of music he makes. Isn't Kelly Osbourne in their video as well?
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Speaking of Rancid, I saw a magazine recently that called Indestructible "The Best Punk Album Ever." What the hell? I mean, I was wondering if it was worth getting, but now I'm confused.
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Originally posted by Archie2K:
@Mouse On Venus: Sorry Mr. So-Eclectic Music tastes. I wont step on your uniform generalisations again.
Who unpadded your cell?! :rolleyes:
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Canned Eggs, it isn't. But it is enjoyable if you like punk and Rancid. I don't like that much punk really, but Rancid is quite a good band. Some awesome guitarists. :)
Yes, I do believe that's Kelly-whatever-her-name-is- Osbourne there, according to IMX.
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
Speaking of Rancid, I saw a magazine recently that called Indestructible "The Best Punk Album Ever." What the hell? I mean, I was wondering if it was worth getting, but now I'm confused.
In my opinion, "...And Out Come The Wolves" is still their best album (some people would also call it the best punk album ever), but Indestructible is almost as good! :)
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Originally posted by Futurama_Hil:
I'd actually have those reversed. I think both do in their own way, but Blink sounds more like a boy band. If you've heard their new song, you'll see what I mean. Ugh.
Which new single? They've got a bunch.
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On genres:
Personally, I don't like narrowly defined genres or labels for band. After all, "pop-punk" has negative connotations. But, I include the Buzzcocks and Jimmy Eat World as "pop-punk," but they're really fine musicians. It's harmonious, yes, but it's not bad...
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Erm, emm, I only heard one on the radio. And I dunno the name. But i can say it had this line, "Where do we go from here?" in it, and that was so boy band! *shrudder*
I don't usually genre them, unless it's quite obvious (for instance, Linkin Park is rap/rock). I can't really, because many bands I listen to are what I consider "regular rock" not "pop/punk." Just the way I do things.
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I classify Jimmy Eat World as Emo and pop-rock.
Futurama_Hil: The song you're thinking of is "Action (Feeling This)." The section of the lyrics: "Where do we go from here? Turn all the lights down now. Show me the bathroom mirror. Show me the bedroom floor..." (That's as much as I can do from memory.)
I don't think that the line "Where do we go from here?" make it boy-band. Artists that have titled songs "Where Do We Go From Here" include Master P, 2Pac, Jamiroquai, Filter, and Vanessa Williams. Not a one of those is a boy band.
I think Blink 182 is pure punk. It's not necessarily all good punk (like, all but one song off Take Off Your Pants and Jacket are terrible).
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The way he says it is too boy band-y. It scares me.
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Originally posted by SQFreak:
I don't think that the line "Where do we go from here?" make it boy-band. Artists that have titled songs "Where Do We Go From Here" include Master P, 2Pac, Jamiroquai, Filter, and Vanessa Williams. Not a one of those is a boy band.
It's also a lyric from "Finally" by Kings Of Tomorrow, which is a house track.
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Now that I finally got Hybrid Theory, I want to briefly compare the two LP albums. (the other Meteroa)
First off, the vocals. I think Chester has an amazing voice. He can scream in such a way that it's enjoyable to listen to and when he actually sings it sounds very pure. I must say, I enjoyed Chester's vocals in the first album much better. Mike, much better in the second- timing better and the lyrics were less cheesy and more catchy in the Meteroa. Lyrics, as I said, better in the second.
Guitars. Definately improved. They were a few very excellent songs on HT considering the guitars, but Meteroa outnumbered them.
Drums. Not much difference, I think they're used more in the second, but both are nice performances.
Mixing/ rap stuff: I like the special effects, which were more various in HT, more in HT, for that very reason. I wished they used them more in Meteroa.
In conclusion, I must admit to like HT more. It seems more various and Chester's performance was more varied as well. Both are great listens, but, unhealthily, I enjoy HT more.
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Oh my god have you seen Busted new video? :nono:
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Originally posted by Juliet:
Oh my god have you seen Busted new video? :nono:
Luckily, no, and I never will either. I'd switch channel straight away if the unthinkable happened.
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I get so pissed off because The Box never shows the video of Electric Six – Dance Commander and that the only music channel that I have along with MTV. Sometimes I see that video on the Q channel when I go to my mum and dads.
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I plan to review "New Train" by Paul Pena real soon. Don't let me forget. Also, which Hellacopters album should I review?
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Originally posted by Archie2K:
Ahem, anyway Spiff a UK band have recently emerged that I think you'll like. Sikth - wierd as hell, energetic as hell, and I bloody love em. I'll write a review once I get la album.
woo! i'm looking forward to it. maybe i can somehow get my hands on their stuff. apart from that, stay tuned for another review by me...
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I just listened to Travis' new album ,12 Memories. And it's true what almost everyone has been saying across the internet, the first time you hear it, you don't like it as much as Travis' other records, but if you give it another try, it will stay on your CD player for a long time. The record is a little bit more experimental than previous efforts, and I like it a lot. Fran's voice rocks! Check it out.
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I thought re-offender was theiur b est since Driftwood. Not a huge fan of the usual Travis durge.
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Archie is just so punkasfuck...
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As promised (as if anyone was paying attention), here is my review of Paul Pena's New Train:
New Train - Paul Pena
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004Y6R1.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
1. Gonna Move
2. New Train
3. Jet Airliner
4. Wait on What You Want
5. Venutian Lady
6. Cosmic Mirror
7. Let's Move and Groove Together
8. Indian Boy
9. Bit of All Right
10. Taking Your Love Down
This album was recorded in 1973, but the studio went bankrupt and it wasn't released until September, 2000. The only reason it ever saw the light of day is because of the mild interest in Paul sparked by the documentary about his trip to Tuva, Genghis Blues. And this is a real shame, because if this album had been released in 1973, it would have been huge. One of the monuments of 70's era soul and R&B, alongside artists like Marvin Gaye and Stevie Wonder and Jimi Hendrix. In fact, some of the original songs on this album leaked out and became popular songs "by" other artists. "Gonna Move" has been the bread and butter of a bunch of R&B bands, "Jet Airliner" was popular as a (trust me) watered-down cover by Steve Miller, and "Venutian Lady" was a staple of the Dead's live show.
As it is, this album is creating a stir mostly in the now underground market for this stuff, but rightly so. Paul is one of the greatest blues guitarists of the modern era. His playing on this album is reminiscent of the best of Jimi Hendrix, but the album is even more listenable than much of Hendrix's work. It's all smooth rhythms and unbelievably infectious grooves. I don't know where to begin praising this album, so I'll begin at the beginning.
The album opens with "Gonna Move," and instantly, within the first few notes, you'll smile at the realization that you're in good hands. Like everything else on the album, it's soulful, upbeat, and contagiously groovy. Paul's voice is clear as a bell and soft as cream cheese. The song, like most of them, including "Jet Airliner," is full of humanity, telling of the struggle to travel and find yourself, and the unique challenges to Paul, who is congenitally blind. And speaking of "Jet Airliner," when you hear Paul's version, you will realize that Steve Miller had no idea what he was doing when he approached this song. Paul plays circles around him on the guitar, and you can just feel the authenticity of Paul singing his own lyrics. It's godlike. Royalties from Steve Miller's version of this song have literally kept Paul alive at times. Anyway, it continues like this. Each song is better than the last. "Cosmic Mirror" is an entirely improvised jam, fortuitously recorded by the sound engineer. If you didn't know better, you'd swear you were listening to Jimi Hendrix. "Let's Move and Groove Together" is an old Johnny Nash cover. My favourite track is "Wait on What You Want." Jerry Garcia plays pedal steel guitar on "Venutian Lady." It just gets better and better.
Support on the album is provided by lots of big names, the Persuasions, Harvey Brooks, Merle Saunders, and the aforementioned Jerry Garcia, but it's Paul's unbelievable presence that pulls it all together.
In conclusion, run out of your house right now and buy this album. Don't take the time to lock the door behind you. It's available for US$10.99 on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004Y6R1/qid=1067024828/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-4141770-9160606?v=glance&s=music), where it incidentally averages five stars out of five over 33 reviews.
If you can hear any track on this album, and not go buy it, then you are dead inside.
http://www.paulpena.com/ (http://www.paulpena.com/)
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Through The Ashes Of Empires - Machine Head
01. Imperium
02. Bite The Bullet
03. Left Unfinished
04. Elegy
05. In The Presence Of My Enemies
06. Days Turn Blue To Gray
07. Vim
08. All Fall Down
09. Wipe The Tears
10. Descend The Shades Of Night
After two very disappointing albums ( The Burning Red and Supercharger ), it's third time lucky for Machine Head. At last, they've delivered a damn good album. Part of the reason is due to new member, Phil Demmel, from vocalist and guitarist Rob Flynn's old band Vio-lence. His inclusion has seen a return to the agressive material of old.
The album gets off to a great start with 3 excellent tracks. Imperium is my favourite of the trio. I think this rivals Davidian as the band's best ever song. Bite The Bullet has some cool riffs and Left Unfinished has a nice solo.
As for the other tracks, I also like In The Presence Of My Enemies, Vim and Descend The Shades Of Night. This doesn't mean that I don't like the remaining four tracks. All the songs have cool things going on. It'd just the remaining four aren't as appealing to me as the others.
Overall, I think this is their best album since their debut, 1994's classic Burn My Eyes. After two dodgy albums, the band is finally back on track. Let's hope it continues. :)
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Mmm, I never bought the last album, but The Burning Red was pretty good. Not as good as Burn My Eyes though. Good to see they're back to their best.
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My reviews haven't been garnering much attention, I figure because the music I review isn't geeky enough. Other people are reviewing math rock and power metal, and here I am stuck on Paul Pena. So here's my bid to outgeek everyone with my 90's east coast hardcore.
Discordance Axis - Original Sound Version
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Discordance Axis was a grindcore band in New Jersey from 1992 to 1995. Releases were sporadic, so after they broke up, they released a discography CD called Original Sound Version. What's it like? Well, if you're a grindcore fan, you know a CD's got to be good when it has 69 tracks on it.
The longest of these tracks is actually like 18 minutes, it's an entire live set recorded at a gig in New York City. But rest assured, this ridiculously excessive track length is more than made up for by the three versions of "Dystopia," the song no grind band can be without, because it's one second long. Other than than, the mode seems to be about 45 seconds a song. Most of the best stuff is off the second LP, "Ulterior," and occurs like 10-20 tracks in.
The CD comes in a surprisingly classy DVD case, with a huge, probably 40-page glossy booklet, with full lyrics (not really a good thing) and notes for every track. The notes are actually lucid and perceptive, although they betray the tough image the music generates by mentioning a lot of anime, RPGs, and other nerdy stuff.
If you don't know DA, and you haven't heard grindcore, be prepared. The genre is designed around packing the maximum amount of thrash and intimidation into the shortest possible time, but if that sounds good to you, then DA is the ticket. They have professional production and some talent, both of which are vanishingly rare qualities in grindcore releases, and put this collection head and shoulders above anything else like it. Good luck trying to find it.
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Ahem. (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000CC7G9/qid%3D1064214697/sr%3D1-9/ref%3Dsr%5F1%5F3%5F9/026-2168189-8632463)
Before, I disliked Courtney Love. After what my ears were just assaulted with tonight, I want to fucking kill her. How could anyone, even a drug-addled psychopath such as herself let this happen?
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We're suffering for her art, dude.
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canned eggs, i suppose there's no way i can get this record over here in good ol' germany, right?
and ben: that link made me lose all hope for good mainstream music within the next few years.
thank you for finally and completely disillusioning me.
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It should be up to dave and krist (The actual artists) not fucking queen Drug abuse..
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Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff:
canned eggs, i suppose there's no way i can get this record over here in good ol' germany, right?
I dunno about Germany specifically, but it's actually easy to find by grind standards. It's still in print on Hydrahead, has been distributed in Europe, and I know for a fact it's on Amazon.co.uk. So keep an eye out for it and it might turn up. It's not that expensive, either.
By the way, one band you want to look out for if you like Shikari is Orchid!, from Massachusetts. They're not amazingly hard to find, either, but I doubt they'll be on Amazon.
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amazingly, i can get discordance axis on amazon.de. as for orchid: i'm not sure, searching for just orchid turns way too many results and searching for it on google without an album name isn't useful either.
could you suggest a good album by orchid?
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This (http://hamp.hampshire.edu/~brw97/Orchid.html) was Orchid's website, but I think they broke up last year, so it's out of date and unhelpful. Their LPs are called "Chaos is Me" and "Dance Tonight! Revolution Tomorrow!" I'm certain they have a compilation on CD, too. Their stuff is easy to find for download, too, if you want to see what it's like before spending money.
Here's a partial discography (http://www.fuzzlogic.com/flex/index.php?searchfor=artist&term=orchid&display=searchx). Some of it's in German, so It seems somebody in Germany has his hands on their stuff.
Edit: TOTPD, hardcore style!
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the reviews sound cool, but i can't find their records anywhere.
even the usual underground shops didn't carry them. damn.
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Meh. Download 'em. They won't mind.
Edit: Ebullition (http://www.ebullition.com/catalog45.html) is their label, and ships worldwide. They seem to have a newer album I didn't know about. I gotta go buy it.
Edit 2: Man, I'm glad I thought of this band again. I dug out their CD and I've been listening to it nonstop. Maybe I'll review it next. Best. Jewel case. Ever.
And Spiff, how did you check every music store you know in 21 minutes?
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This is the third album from Muse, the forth if you count the Hullabaloo Soundtrack (which consists of a CD with live tracks from the Hullabaloo concert and a CD with a selection of b-sides). It's pretty hard to describe what kind of music Muse make, you can't even put them into one specific genre, as each song has its own unique sound. If you don't like high pitched singing, lots of "ooooooooohing" and hearing the singer's breathing noises, you might want to check out some other album.
Like on the first two albums, Showbiz and Origin Of Symmetry, each song is different than the others, though on Absolution the differences are even more extreme. Some songs are quite heavy and distortion guitar/bass based, some songs are piano based, there are very quiet and slow songs, electronic elements are used, as well as an orchestra... oh well. I just noticed how bad I am at describing things, so I'll stop here and not even post some brief comments to each song... anyway, Absolution is a greeeeeeater than greeeeeeat album, just like Showbiz and Origin Of Symmetry. I love Muse!
10/10
edit: I forgot to say, if you like Muse but haven't seen them live yet, you should get a ticket now! They're just :eek: :eek: :eek: ...
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The Darkness - Permission to Land
Better late than never, I've been listening to it for a few days and it seems to be growing on me.
Maybe there's hope for the pandemonium of other newer bands starting with "The" for me?
Justin Hawkins voice may be taking the piss, but he reminds me of Stephen Tyler, who's vocls I love.
I think it's an energetic album from the start: (Black) Shuck rhymes with fuck, brilliant!!
At least they're not all whiney with moany girl-voices, and some of the songs I can actually relate to (kinda).
Fav tracks:
Black Shuck
Givin' Up
Growing On Me
I Believe In a Thing called Love.
9 tentacles up!
*expects everyone who hates it to say so, and those who like it to keep quiet*
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Your expectation, in part, are right. Because I hate the friggin' Darkness. You're right it's not a whiney moany girl-voice, it's a lot worse! At times he sounds like a cat being strangled. Anyway, I know they aren't a bad band, and they do make good music, but that doesn't mean I like it. I respect it, but I friggin' hate it!
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Eh..... Yay!!? :D
But you've got yer beloved Prodigy so yer sorted!
I have yet to find all my true band loves.
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Originally posted by MrBurns:
edit: I forgot to say, if you like Muse but haven't seen them live yet, you should get a ticket now! They're just :eek: :eek: :eek: ...
A few people who I used to know from high school loved Muse and have been to see them quite a few times. And one of them actually went to a signing they had somewhere, and it was just before they did a gig. She brought along a gold pen and something for them to sign. She approached Matt and asked if he could please sign in her gold pen, rather than the black pen he was using. He did so and it leaked all over his hands.
He had to go and wipe it off and clean himself off, resulting in him actually being late for his gig!
She also went to another signing a little bit later on in the year, and he actually recognised her because of the gold pen incident. She also somehow managed to get hold of Dom's mobile number too. I dont know how. She kept phoning him and texting him. but he never answered or texted her back. I'm not surprised!
She was kinda wierd. She was cool, but kinda wierd :)
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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
The Darkness - Permission to Land
I ain't keeping quiet. This just came out in the US like this week and I fucking love it! It's taken over my life the past few days. In fact I'm listening to it right now. This is everything I am a sucker for. Words cannot express how awesome it is. Cheese, glam, falsettos, Marshall amps with the gain turned all the way down, five power ballads on one album, unitards, guitars shooting lightning bolts... I'm in heaven.
I got tickets to see these bastards (with Billy Talent, whose album I reviewed in September) at Slim's in San Francisco on the 21st. The live show had better kick ass. By the way, it goes to show how oblivious the US is that the Darkness are playing a nightclub here on a tour that's sold out arenas in the UK.
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One of the main reasons that The Darkness attracts such derision is because the way the music press and music TV have jumped on them. They've attracted all of this hype like they're the second coming. This says more about the state of music than anything else, as the attention they got reeks of desperation of the part of the media. They're desperate for a new, great, original, dynamic band to lift us all out of the crap we're in at the moment.
I saw them at Leeds Festival and true, they were great, and their singles have been good so far, lots of people have recommended them to me as a band I'll like.
So, eventually, I'll give in.
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Interestingly enough, one of the best songs on the new Barenaked Ladies CD also includes either the best line ever or the worst line ever, I haven't really decided which.
"All the clocks will stop
And all the jeans will cream"
-Celebrity, Barenaked Ladies
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I dunno, I'm not too big on The Darkness. I like them, but I just haven't heard enough to get too excitied with them. They do sound pretty sweet though.
Hopefully I'll give a review of Go or Toxicity sometime.
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I don't get it.
I'm not sure I want to either. :hmpf:
I asked my friend to go to see The Darkness when they were playing in Dublin in October, but he hated them then, but now they're one of his favourite bands.
Fucker.
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As Melll pointed out about the desperation of the media towards The Darkness. I also hate the other band they seem to be wiping asses for at the moment too, The Strokes. I find it hard to choose which one I hate more. But on The Darkness's side, they do have an awesome, very talented guitarist. It's just a pity he can only seem to play it, but can't write a decent solo to save his life... *oh-oh* And as for The Strokes, I find their lack of talent, which drives them to simplistic songs, seems to be what's winning the media over. Simplistic can be clool, but it needs to be fucking good and strong too...
Just my opinions though... and for the record, I do admire The Strokes for doing what they want. I guess if it's your thing, you'll love it, and if it's not, you'll hate it.
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See, this is why I don't buy into the "music media." First off, I have no idea who The Darkness is. I've heard none of the hype, none of their songs, nothing. And do you know what? I don't really care to. And, on The Strokes...the Strokes are a decent band caught in the middle of hype. Are they "the band to save rock and roll"? No. Because rock and roll never needed saving. Are they a decent group with some catchy songs? Sure.
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Originally posted by evan:
See, this is why I don't buy into the "music media." First off, I have no idea who The Darkness is. I've heard none of the hype, none of their songs, nothing.
You're lucky, you have a choice. I have to hear it, from the radio at Homebase where I work. I have to work too.
Also, I read various music magazines to catch the latest news and stuff. Although read them by choice, it isn't my choice to see them plastered on front covers because of media hype.
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I hereby wholeheartedly agree with everything Melllvar ever says in the future about music.
I do like The Darkness though.
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I agree with Melll :) In this world of manufactured pop idols and bands, they are a breath of fresh air. I was watching Pop Idol with my mum last night and some lad came on and started singing and my mum commented "He looks just like the last one!", to which I said "That's because they're CLONES! That's what the music industry is becoming!!" :laff: :) I like The Darkness too, their album got played a few times in our common room.
I have a very weird question about music, Melll or someone else with good musical sense will possibly be able to answer. Why do so many, or all, songs these days go straight in at #1? Could it be because it's more commercialised, or is it the younger target audience? I looked in a book and the last time a song was #1, but not in it's first week was S Club 7's Don't Stop Movin' in May 2001.
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I posted this before and it's a little hard to follow, but there have been between 900 and 1000 different #1s since the chart began back in 1952. The record industry measures the amount of time between each century of songs and have found that the gap from #800 to #900 was shorter than any before. Something like just 170 weeks, meaning most songs had an average #1 lifespan of under 2 weeks!
In other words the statistics prove you right, songs are geared for #1. When A1 reached #1 with their godawful A-Ha cover Take On Me rumours immediately sprung up that the record company had fixed the result by buying 28,000 copies themselves. Many in the industry say this kind of "buying" of #1s is common. Add to that the HEAVY publicity any artist gets before a big hit of theirs comes out with TV appearances, newspaper interviews, beating up of loo attendants etc. shows how the pop industry is just geared towards sending someone to #1 in the first week, and who cares if they then disappear without a trace.
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*kills Archie for knowing too much*
I don't work for the record companies or anything, just, y'know...
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Let's face it, fixing number 1's is no new thing. Not only to put certain singles on the top, but to keep others off too. Sex Pistols anybody?
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The reason evan's never heard the hype is that The Darkness are entirely unheard of in the US. It's sort of odd, but their success in the UK virtually guarantees that no one in America will ever care. Except me.
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Never heard of them either.
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Not having any hype makes things easier on me, though, because I don't have to feel like a tool when I go into a record store and buy the album. In America, I get to feel like I've discovered this cool foreign band and act all smug about how nobody else knows about them. I actually had to explain who the Darkness were to the clerk at the store.
"They're the biggest band in England right now."
"Then how come I've never heard of them?"
"I dunno, because you live in a third world country?"
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Originally posted by Impossible:
I have a very weird question about music, Melll or someone else with good musical sense will possibly be able to answer. Why do so many, or all, songs these days go straight in at #1? Could it be because it's more commercialised, or is it the younger target audience? I looked in a book and the last time a song was #1, but not in it's first week was S Club 7's Don't Stop Movin' in May 2001.
:remembers when "straight in at No.1" meant something:
Archie's right. Most of the hyped single releases are geared towards a NO.1 spot on the first week after release. Mainly to do with the fact that single sales had flagged to the point that they meant virtually nothing (New Kids On The Block had a No.1 single in the early nineties by selling just 30,000 copies - don't ask which single it was, I cannot remember - at the time was the lowest selling No.1 of all time).
Some of the prima-donna artists practically insist on "creative" release scheduling so that they get their No.1 single. There's a great story on Geri Halliwell going to the top office of EMI and screaming the place down when her first single only got to No.2.
Occasionally we get some anomalies. Like, "Groovejet" beating Victoria Beckham to No.1, was utterly brilliant, because it showed the total desperation on behalf of Posh, (dragging hubby David out to Bolton Woolworths for a PA was the depth the sunk to) and still they lost. Sophie Ellis Bextor's quote at the time summed it up, "If she's that desperate, she can have it!".
Also there are tactics employed by the likes of say, Atomic Kitten, doing covers of previous No.1's ("Eternal Flame", "The Tide Is High" ) in order for the song to repeat the process.
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Originally posted by ghoulishmoose:
And one of them actually went to a signing they had somewhere, and it was just before they did a gig. She brought along a gold pen and something for them to sign. She approached Matt and asked if he could please sign in her gold pen, rather than the black pen he was using. He did so and it leaked all over his hands.
He had to go and wipe it off and clean himself off, resulting in him actually being late for his gig!
She also went to another signing a little bit later on in the year, and he actually recognised her because of the gold pen incident. She also somehow managed to get hold of Dom's mobile number too. I dont know how. She kept phoning him and texting him. but he never answered or texted her back. I'm not surprised!
She was kinda wierd. She was cool, but kinda wierd :)
That made me laugh, great story. :)
I've seen a pic of Matt and some photo of himself he was supposed to sign. He painted all over his photo-face with the pen.
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In my opinion, and in answer to Impy's question, I think the main reason for singles coming straight in at the Number 1 is because the record industry has eaten itself. Anyone heard of Pop Will Eat Itself?
Things have turned backwards. Instead of a song gaining popularity after it's release, and then gaining sales, and getting to number 1. Now we have manufactered singles, which are hyped up, plastered over kids TV programs, aimed at impressionable young children and young teens, who can't afford albums, way before the release of the song. And when it finally does come out, all the kids have been saving their pocket money, and get it as soon as it comes out.
It seems that most people old enough not to fall for this corporate trap, and who can think for themselves, also with age, have more money. And generally buy albums instead. Hense singles sales getting lower, and the album charts in general having a lot better, less manufactered stuff in them.
Of course there are exceptions. The singles that twist and distort, and the munufactured albums that manage to get into the album charts through certian gullible means. But in general, thats how I see it :)
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We live in a society where nothing has to left to chance, including which music we choose to like.
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Whoa, thanks for all the feedback guys :) It's really useful :D
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Originally posted by MrBurns:
I've seen a pic of Matt and some photo of himself he was supposed to sign. He painted all over his photo-face with the pen.
It's the same thing with my signed poster of the Polyphonic Spree. The members took great delight in drawing all over themselves, or their fellow robe-wearing loonies (adding cat-ears, smiley faces, oversized ears, hearts... Even frontman Tim's son got in on the act by scribbling out his Dad's face in red pen ;) ). Great people, they were. And they took the humour of my asking them to sign a Flaming Lips poster in the way I intended.
The charts? Needless to say:
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The last single that I thought genuinely deserved its number 1 positioning was this tune called "Your Woman" by White Town, which was around '98 I think. It was just this really cool, pretty lo-fi and atmospheric piece of vocal electronica that got to the top spot not because the big corporations invented it or because it was part of a flavour-of-the-month movement, but simply because it was a very good song.
Of course, it only stayed there for a week and hardly anyone talks about it now, since the guy behind White Town didn't see fit to cash in on his success with an identikit follow up single. But what's a real shame is that you'd be extremely hard pushed to have a success story like that these days. :(
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I have to agree with most of the discussion on the ludicrousness of the pop charts nowadays. But if this thread exists for any reason at all, it is to prove that the evil empire of the pop industry is no reason to despair. We can still find the good stuff by sidestepping the businessmen and the hype and just listening to other losers to whom music is way, way too important. Here's an example:
Orchid! - Dance Tonight! Revolution Tomorrow!/Chaos is Me
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Orchid! was a hardcore band from Massachusetts that was very influential in the late '90's and up until last year, when they apparently broke up. This CD is a compilation of the band's first two full-length releases, "Dance Tonight! Revolution Tomorrow!" and "Chaos is Me." Of these, the second is by far the better produced, and is probably more sophisticated musically, but they both have the same grinding intensity.
In sound, Orchid! follows the loud, terrifying tradition of the Bremen hardcore bands of the '90's like Carol and Morser; the same really screaming vocals and the same metal inspired drumming and unnecessarily loud instrumental lines and textures originally influenced by Rorschach and Uranus, but they manage to pack a lot of sophistication into their riffs and rhythms, considering their songs are mostly less than a minute long. I wouldn't call it math rock, but the music shows a surprising predilection for 3/4 time and syncopated rhythms. Their best songs are actually considerably more melodic than most of the other speedy-screamy type hardcore music, without detracting from the sheer brutality of the music.
This band was made up of political theory undergraduates from Amherst, Massachusetts, and while this naturally means that they're the only band in the universe pretentious enough to write a song called "I am Nietzsche," it also means they take their intellectualism very seriously. The insert for "Dance Tonight! Revolution Tomorrow!" contains a manifesto quoting Jacques Attali, and the lyrics are well above the normal standard of crap for hardcore bands. In particular, they return to the purported roots of punk, the situationism of Guy Debord, and so explore the issue of music's contribution to political systems, but mostly manage to avoid taking the easy way out by being explicitly political and aping most other hardcore bands, especially those made up of undergraduates at liberal arts colleges. "The revolution is not a 'political movement,'" they say, and it's refreshing in a genre that has way too many lyrics like "capitalism is bad" or "we live in a police state."
The website of Ebullition (http://www.ebullition.com), their record label, insists on calling Orchid! an "emo" band, but if this is emo, then I have no idea what the word means anymore. Not like I ever did
Anyway, the CD comes in a really awesome all-opaque red jewel case, and has high-quality inserts duplicating the record jackets of the original vinyl releases. The jewel case alone is a good reason to buy this on CD instead of the original vinyl releases.
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What's that? You need another example?
The Hellacopters - By The Grace Of God (2002)
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1. By The Grace Of God
2. All New Low
3. Down On Freestreet
4. Better Than You
5. Carry Me Home
6. Rainy Days Revisited
7. Its Good But It Just Aint Right
8. U.Y.F.S.
9. On Time
10. All Ive Got
11. Go Easy Now
12. The Exorcist
13. Pride
I got my radio on
It's playing that same old stupid song
Over and over for much too long
I gotta turn that damn thing down
The Hellacopters are a band from Sweden, made up of ex-members from several high profile Swedish death metal bands. Sometimes I think everyone in Sweden is an ex-member of a high profile death metal band, as it seems economically unfeasible to have any business in Sweden that isn't a death metal band. But the Hellacopters don't play death metal. Far from it. They play what they describe as "High Energy Rock & Roll," and that about covers it. Think badass '70's rock & roll, like early Kiss, or AC DC, or Motorhead. Think catchy guitar hooks, driving rhythms, virtuosity, wicked solos, stupid lyrics about easy women and hangovers, Marshall stacks with flame stickers on them, Les Pauls, long hair, and bad attitudes.
In fact, like most Hellacopters albums, Grace of God is something of a concept album, trying to bring together elements from all the great decades of Rock & Roll. From the '50's Chuck Berry guitar riff on "Better than You" to the '80's power ballad "Rainy Days Revisited," this band has become an encyclopedia of everything ever meant to be played at window-shattering volume. As a fulfillment of this ideal, Grace of God is their latest and greatest album. They've evolved from their early garage rock stylings, added keyboards, and refined their sound by orders of magnitude, with the help of extremely professional production. It rocks. Their guitars sound incredibly clean, with that soaring low-gain sound, the drumming is impassioned, the bass got the boom that shakes the room, and they use backup vocals to fill out the sound as never before. Musically, this album is most similar to their recent High Visibility LP, but the sound is yet more complex and fuller. The album is also more emotional than most of Hellacopters' previous work, or maybe I'm just beginning to finally understand the struggle they've been documenting through their largely incomprehensible lyrics. Grace of God seems to be a sort of remorseful introspection on a life of Rock & Roll excess. Songs like "Carry Me Home" and "It's Good But It Just Ain't Right" are actually poignant, as well as rocking the hizzouse. Maybe the album's pace falls off a little on the B side, but it closes strong with "Pride." Incindentally, Grace of God has not yet been released in the US, so you Europeans get to reap the benefits (but the Japanese get two bonus tracks - lucky bastards).
In sum, the Hellacopters are rock gods in the old-fashioned sense of the term, before grunge turned rockstars into little pussies. Rock & Roll is meant to occupy a stage larger than life, and the Hellacopters can do it as very few people have for a long, long time. Thank the Lord and all the saints in Heaven, Rock & Roll is not dead. Not in the least. I can't wait for these fuckers to tour the US.
N.B.: I like this band for a lot of the same reasons I like The Darkness (as well as, say, the Flaming Sideburns), but if you don't like The Darkness (Otis), that don't mean you won't like the Hellacopters. The Hellacopters don't take it so far over the top. There are no falsettos here, nor open-chest catsuits. Where The Darkness wear sequins and mince around, the Hellacopters presumably ride Harleys and shoplift. But what these bands have in common is a lot of vintage equipment and a deep-rooted respect for old school hard rock, back when rock music was something special, and rockstars acted like gods.
http://www.hellacopters.com (http://www.hellacopters.com)
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Today my favorute group released their new album!
Dream theater!
Excellent group with great bass player guitar and drummer.
I really recommend them to you.
Well it's progressive metal!
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*Bumpity Bump*
For a classic review. Talk in the Rock Band Thread lead me to go back and listen to this:
Faith No More - Album Of The Year
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Warners/Slash/London - 1997
Tracklisting:
1. Collision
2. Stripsearch
3. Last Cup Of Sorrow
4. Naked In Front Of The Computer
5. Helpless
6. Mouth To Mouth
7. Ashes To Ashes
8. She Loves Me Not
9. Got That Feeling
10. Paths Of Glory
11. Home Sick Home
12. Pristina
Perhaps it's arguable that at the time Faith No More's creative and commercial zenith was behind them (for me, their best was 1992's Angel Dust, I even put it ahead of the multimillion-selling, The Real Thing.) However, as last albums go, this one is fantastic.
Production-wise they'd stayed pretty insular throughout their career (with three of their six albums produced by Matt Wallace), their last two albums being taken by Andy Wallace, and this one by Roli Mosimann (formerly of techno/industrialists, The Young Gods). His approach brought out Roddy Bottum's keyboard to sit alongside Jon Hudson's guitar and create a more uniform sound.
Uniformity aside, this album is not without it's moments of madness, the Bunglesque Mouth To Mouth is the album's mad-point.
Mike Patton, for me, has always been an underrated lyricist and this album displays more examples of Patton's lyrical beauty (from Helpless):
..Sometimes life moves too slow, slows to a crawl, and all the poetry is lost...
But it's the three single releases which produce the albums standout tracks. Three of the best singles of FNM's career are contained on this album, Ashes To Ashes is an uplifting epic with a killer-hook and Patton's amazing soaring vocal chorus. Last Cup Of Sorrow has examples of Mosimann's influence on with the keyboard line taking centre-stage with the guitar on this track, and Stripsearch, possibly my favourite track on this album, brought to the fore by Mike Patton's soft, soulful and affecting vocal, only to turn dark and ugly at the songs conclusion.
I think after six years, this album still cuts it with (and even surpasses) modern rock bands, and as a finale to their great career, few other bands in the same position couldn't hope for anything near it.
9/10
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I've never heard this album, but with King For A Day..., I felt the band had lost a lot of what I liked about it in Jim Martin. He was what interested me in the band initially, in the pre-Mike Patton days, and he really gave their music an edgy but listenable sound. King For A Day sounded too Mr. Bungley to me. I'll try to give this one a listen.
Also, don't you mean zenith? Isn't the nadir the low point?
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Yes, I meant zenith. I'll edit.
I'm getting my pretentious review-isms mixed up. ;)
EDIT: Yeah, this album is way better than KFADFFAL.
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Out of the four CDs I bought this past week, I finally feel comfortable enough to review one. I mentioned this one in the album cover thread, so I might put it here.
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Spiritualized - Let it Come Down
2001
Track Listing
1. On Fire
2. Dot It All Over Again
3. Don't Just Do Something
4. Out of Sight
5. The Twelve Steps
6. The Straight and the Narrow
7. I Didn't Mean to Hurt You
8. Stop Your Crying
9. Anything More
10. Wont Get to Heaven (the state I'm in)
11. Lord Can You Hear Me
J. Spaceman has done it again. After firing everyone in his backing band, he fused together a traditional rock'n'roll outfit with an orchestra with the modern "wall of sound." Spiritualized often (underdeservedly) is categorized as "drug music," because of its soothing, melodic, song structure and mumbling vocals. The sound really is in a class by itself. Woodwind instruments play alongside jangly guitar riffs. Many songs crescendo into a loud, toe-tapping mess of music and sound, almost breaking through the speakers.
Musically, Spiritualized remains thick. This could be off-putting to some, and would explain why it took me a week to understand it well enough to review. The first two tracks should serve as an introduction to Let It Come Down. The rollicking piano in "On Fire" leads the rest of the band (including violins and clarinets) in a chase of "do do dos." While "Do It All Over Again" is complete trance-balladering. From there, Spiritualized merges those two distinct sounds into one steady stream. And, despite what you may think, it all works. "The Twelve Steps" reminds me of classic era Rolling Stones (complete with police siren), with a killer harmonica part. Not every song crescendos, but when it does....wow.
I hate the term "concept album," but drug usage and the after affects of addiction comprise much of the lyrics. "The Twelve Steps" is an obvious tongue-in-cheek drug-related song. "Don't Just Do Something" is a sarcastic jab at "go do it!" slogans but also deals with the pain of trying again. My only concern is that J. Spaceman's voice is oftentimes overshadowed by the orchestral backing. This does help on the ballads, making Spaceman's vocals lonely. In "Stop Your Crying," this isolation is even more pronounced by the bold choral background.
Some say love is blind, but I think 'dumb' is what they had in mind"
I think the depth of Let It Come Down hurts it. It's not something to put on just for kicks, or for finding that "pop" single. It's very much a lonely and introspective album. This could limit its appeal, but those who dig through it will be pleasantly surprised.
8.5 out of 10.
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i just discovered a band called Apocalyptica. It's so freaken awesome. They are a cello band that does metallica covers among other things. I was just listening to "enter Sandman" now im listening to 'for whom the bell tolls". It's really pretty.
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Apocalyptica's awesome. I strongly recommend their version of "Master of Puppets." I think they do other metal covers, but aren't as good at them.
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My favourite song from Apocalyptica is "Hope". They're good.
TOTP-O-RAMA
it's da boom!
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Dear Academy of Motion Pictures,
please don't give Phil Collins another OSCAR. He is a rock star not a movie composer. Well "Brother Bear" its not bad, but its definetely not OSCAR worthy.
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Yes Apocalyptica are really awesome. They have recently made a video with Nina Hagen with the Rammstein cover version of "Seemann" (Seaman). Its fantastic.
Originally posted by Venus:
i just discovered a band called Apocalyptica. It's so freaken awesome. They are a cello band that does metallica covers among other things. I was just listening to "enter Sandman" now im listening to 'for whom the bell tolls". It's really pretty.
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Yeah, what's with Apocalyptica having a singer, now?!? That really conflicts with their "Metallica on chello" vibe.
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I bought their 'Does Metallica by Four Cellos' or whatever it's called back in high school during my metal phase. It's the only Metallica music our teachers would let us play during class...
Has anyone listened to the 'String tribute to Nirvana'? I found it in a music store in New Zealand a couple of years ago. They're nowhere near as good as Apocalyptica, but it still makes for nice studying music.
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
I've just heard the new Lostprophets single 'Burn Burn', and it's alright. But they've totally stolen one of Seal's vocal harmonies out of 'Killer'. What were they thinking! Did they not think people would notice such a strong and powerful harmony? Covering it up with guitars just doesn't work guys. I hope the rest of your album has more originality.
If you've read this (http://www.peelified.com/ubb/Forum12/HTML/000094-5.html#162), there may be some hope for you. The new stuff I heard last night shows that Burn Burn may be a stick-out (recorded possibly to garner a broader audience) on their next album. The rest of the new stuff they played was more akin to the last album than Burn Burn was.
Very cool, I thought.
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Sound promising, my faith has partly been restored. Maybe their big-headed, self-indulgent comments in recent interviews weren't all lies after all.
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Naked City - Torture Garden (1989)
(http://www.ottawa-anime.org/~eyevocal/boredoms/covers/nacitort.jpg)
Nobody had ever heard of this album in the album cover quiz thread, so I thought I'd review it. Naked City was the principal musical project of avant-garde saxophone player and film composer John Zorn. It includes a standard rock band lineup of guitar, keyboard, bass, and drums, but the music that comes out of them is anything but standard.
"Torture Garden" is 42 tracks, ranging from 12 seconds to 1:18. That makes it sound like a grind album, and maybe it is; songs like "Hammerhead" are the distilled essence of grind, but along the way the album overtly samples from every genre the musicians can think of. Zorn has always been famous for his "block theory," where he divides the music up into blocks, and each block references a different style. Songs like "The Prestidigitator" and "Speedfreaks" are textbook examples of the block theory in action, switching from a 2-second block of polka to a block of speed metal to a block of noise like flipping a switch. The time changes are so complex I get dizzy listening.
But there are also some tracks, like the speed metal/jazz "Osaka Bondage," where they aim at a fusion technique of combining different genres, instead of stacking them end to end. It's quite successful. This is in fact one of my favourite tracks on the album.
Japanese hardcore singer Yamatsuka (Yamataka) Eye's vocals have a distinctly Mike Patton, Fantomas, Amenza al Mundo feel. Mostly it's just choking and gibbering and screams; maybe sometimes it sounds like he's trying to sneak in a Japanese word or two, like in "No Reason to Believe." But more often his wailing merges with the wailing of Zorn's saxophone so you can't tell where one ends and the other begins.
The saxophone is also the highlight of the album. It sets the music apart from the typical experimental grind/metal bands, but Zorn also displays serious virtuosity. He mimics Eye's insane vocalizations, no matter how torturous, and in the final track "Gob of spit" even mimics the sound of, well, spitting - with the sax.
Overall, this is one very jacked-up album, and is not for the faint of heart. The insert illustrations contain stills from Ogawa Kinji Japanese bondage films, as well as the violent, misogynistic graphic art of Maruo Suehiro. The 1996 "black box" release of the album, which is the only one widely available now, also comes packed with Leng Tch'e, which is an inferior album, but the insert for that one contains a photo of a man being executed in 1905 China by being cut into a hundred pieces.
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:stares:
i fucking need that album.
i could get it for 28 bucks at amazon.de, but they say that it takes up to 6 weeks - if they can get it at all...
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Just scooped up the new Korn album. It reminds me their old stuff, which is a good thing. Good hard rockin'. Slurm Guy gives it a thumbs up! :D
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Ii hope it's good. Untouchables was horrible.
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Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff:
:stares:
i fucking need that album.
i could get it for 28 bucks at amazon.de, but they say that it takes up to 6 weeks - if they can get it at all...
I could burn it and mail it to you.
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A great album
(http://dreamtheater.net/covers/train_of_thought.jpg)
Info
Tracks:
As I Am (7:48)
This Dying Soul (11:28)
Endless Sacrifice (11:25)
Honor Thy Father (10:11)
Vacant (2:58)
Stream of Consciousness (11:16)
In the Name Of God (14:15)
Total time: 69:37
Featuring impressive drum, and guitar solos.
Released November 11th.
Great album, for those who like metal.
This album includes amazing improvements of audio quality, that make the drum sound better.
John Petrucci (guitar)
Great guitar effects, composer of the majority of songs, fast as hell.
Top 100 guitar players. If you don´t like his solos you either are:
-Pop fan
-Deaf
Jordan Rudess (keyboards)
Amazing speed with sensitive touches, the soft soongs of the album expose him at his best, he knows the appropiate moment to change the tone.
Mike Portnoy (Drums)
Using his huge drum with approximately 100 pieces of percussion.
Also fast as hell, great Allegrisimo! composer.
JamesLaBrie (vocals)
Great singer with high and low tones.
He will delight you, he armoniuos way he can impose on the band.
And Last but not least
John Myung (Bass)
Fast bass player with touches of sensibility and the special effect that bass gives to any group.
Progressive metal has reached it's best.
The lyrics are incredible and based on the expressions of the group.
Combines excellence and armonic mixtures between instruments and vocals.
As I am the single is now playing on radios.
It's the most heavy song.
This Dying soul
Great drums and basically the most impressive work by Labrie, also 2 via guitar.
Endless sacrifice:
Not so loud, with touches of soft guitar, and drum.
Then a great chorus never expected.
Honor thy Father:
If you are a drummer buy this album and listen this song.
You will be inspired.
Vacant:
Soft song, with amazing work on keyboards and great vocal work.
Stream of Consciousness:
Great instrumental piece of art, mixing the requirements of a great progressive metal song.
With excellent solos.
In the name of God:
This song represents the basis of why this album was based on personal expressions.
Great lyrics that mix together with music and create a shell of thoughts. And I don´t say it because of the marijuana.
Buy it now!
I know this is not the kind of sticky and poppy music everybofy loves but it'll fit those rock lovers.
Actually I know they'll love it.
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It sounds good (in fact you make it look as the greatest thing ever).
Also, what's the name of the album? The letters in the photo are a little hard to read.
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Professor:
Ohh yeah! sorry, the name of the album is:
"Train of thought"
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Originally posted by Slurm Guy:
Just scooped up the new Korn album. It reminds me their old stuff, which is a good thing. Good hard rockin'. Slurm Guy gives it a thumbs up! :D
I'm really unsure about getting it. The only song on it I've heard is 'Did My Time', and I wasn't that impressed by it. I loved the middle part of the song, but Jonathon's vocals have become too whiney for my liking.
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Old stuff, huh? Is that what you say, eh, Slurmie (and don't kill me for calling you that- 'coz I'll kill you right back :D). In which way. Because "Did My Time" is straight-up polished and non-jagged KoRn, like Untouchables. I personally like the self-titled debut best, and Life is Peachy... they had some grinding guitars and innovative compositions. The new stuff is just about production and getting quirky sounds cut in there.
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I wasn't that hard on Untouchables, I kinda liked it (except track 2 - "Make Believe", that was abominable!). I'll probably still get the new one, just to keep the collection going.
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
I'll probably still get the new one, just to keep the collection going.
Think about the starving kids in Africa. Don't give your money to some greedy record company, at least keep it to yourself.
(goes out and buys Blink 182's new album)
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Don't get me wrong- I like Untouchables. It just doesn't have the same kind of edge and feel of the first two. And I also have a full collection. KoRn's material is just split in two: Pre-"Leader" and Post-"Leader" with Follow the Leader as a single jutting rock and Issues as a booster for the new style (I actually disagreed with most of the reviews of Issues- I found it awesome). The style on Follow the Leader is somewhat singled out, because a bunch of songs incorporates more of hip-hop and funk. But the end pert of the album is a good connector for the pre/post styles. IMHO.
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Originally posted by Mr. Potter:
(goes out and buys Blink 182's new album)
Hey, I've heard good things about Blink's new album. Robert Smith from The Cure sings on it.
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Yeah, Rolling Stone said they were more mature and all of that and they gave the record 4 stars, but the new single still doesn't convinces me.
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My mate said it's pretty good, and he normally hated them. I'll give it a while before getting it. I heard some of the new stuff when they played at Leeds Fest and I liked it.
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My favourite KoRn album is 'Follow The Leader', then in order 'KoRn', 'Issues' and 'Untouchables'. I don't own 'Life is Peachy', or the new album. As much as I love all the KoRn albums which I own, I just didn't like 'Life is Peachy' that much. The only trax I really liked were 'A.D.I.D.A.S.', (which I have on their 'Duece' DVD anyway) and 'Twist'. I really didn't like the flat production, and as clool as some of the grinding riffs were, there wasn't enough else for me. I know that's not going to go down well with most KoRn fans, but meh.
As for the new album, I can't really judge until I've heard it all. But I don't really like where it seems to be heading though, with the whiney singing. 'Untouchables' suffered from that too, but not as bad as 'Did My Time'. 'Untouchables' also suffered from over-production, which luckily seems to have been toned down a bit on 'Did My Time', but still not enough for my liking. I guess I'll have to just see with the new album though :)
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Best song on the new album I think is 'Right Now'
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Over-production can be avoided!!! Korn is doomed to overproduction for-ever. But other bands can come out of this downward spiral, look at the
Foo-Fighters!
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Hmm, I've had the .rar archive of the new korn album sitting on my PC for the past week. I really must give it a listen.
I still don't think they'll ever top their self-titled effort, though.
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Agreed.
Ah, back when they were'nt wearing multiple layers of Adidas clothing. Aww.
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Whu? Jonathon was wearing an Adidas tracksuit in the video for Blind!
I'm just not interested in the new Korn album (in fact, I hadn't relised they'd released it until today). I've listened to their first 4 so many times, yet just couldn't get into Untouchables at all (apart from the singles. "Here to Stay" was awesome). "Did my time" was just uninspiring.
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Aw yeah - forgot about that ol' peanut, sure havent seen the film-clip for a long time.
Must you correct me.
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I got three words which sum up Korn's debut:
"Are you READY!!"
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Double-post:
(For A Review)
Linkin Park - Live In Texas
(http://members.lycos.co.uk/melllvar/LP-Live.jpg)
Tracklisting (* - denotes DVD only):
1. Don't Stay *
2. Somewhere I Belong
3. Lying From You
4. Papercut
5. Points Of Authority
6. Runaway
7. Faint
8. From The Inside
9. Figure.09 *
10. With You *
11. By Myself *
12. P5hng Me A*wy
13. Numb
14. Crawling
15. In The End
16. A Place For My Head *
17. One Step Closer
Some live albums are a novelty, this is one of them. Some people like the idea of Live Albums, I'm one of them, I love live albums. Done well, they're great, they capture the atmosphere and energy of being at the gig.
Let's get things straight, no band, however good they are, can be as polished as they are in on a studio record. So, if you're expecting something exceptional, prepare to be disappointed. However, LP have produced a good piece of filler, which works as a great momento for anyone who've caught any of their 2003 shows (myself included), or for those completist fans who'll get everything no matter what.
Detractions: Firstly, it's bad choice of gig to film, in my opinion. This was a support slot on Metallica's "Summer Sanitarium" Tour (also with Limp Bizkit, Deftones and Mudvayne), so the full gig is in broad daylight, in a Texas enormodome (actually it's two - Reliant Stadium in Houston and Texas Stadium). Secondly, there's too much "arty" camerawork, however, that said, (1) it settles down, and (2) you do get used to it.
Now, all that aside, it's really not as bad as you'd expect it to be. There are some great versions of their tracks on offer here (standouts are the re-animated P5hng Me Aw*y, Faint and DVD only offering, By Myself). Chester's vocal performance (even towards the end) is still relatively exceptional (thanks to the miracle of in-ear monitoring, no doubt.)
Considering the relative cheapness of this product anyway, LP Fans will be hard pushed to by detracted from this release anyway (I paid £10 from CDWOW for this, which is an absolute bargain), and they will enjoy it.
One hopes that they will have the wherewithall to film one of the indoor arena shows also, as that would have gone down better.
I liked it, though.
7/10
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I'm not a big fan of live albums, re-mix albums are more my filler. Still, it sounds pretty good, and I'd definately like to hear it. But I just don't know if I'd listen/watch it more than a couple of times. If only they had some live-only trax on there, the kind which work better live than in the studio, then it might have tempted me. I'm still holding out for a Reanimation of Meteora either next year, or the year after.
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In the "you buy it" thread, I posted a £1-off link for CDWOW, use it and get LIT for £9.99, that's what I did.
Of the two gigs I saw, I kinda wish they'd recorded the Manchester one, much better show, and better set ("It's Going Down", "Breaking The Habit", My December" ). However the standout song from both shows is the standout song on this album - "P5hng Me Aw*y". "By Myself" should have been on the album too, as it's got the killer intro (delicate guitar, then Rob Bourden's snazzy snarework, excellent!)
Also, it's incredible how much Mr. Hahn is starting to look like The Rock now too.
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
I could burn it and mail it to you.
that would be really cool. i might have a look at an online music shop from germany which specialises in more alternative music, but in case they don't have it that would be awesome. :)
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One Hour Photo-Original movie score. perfect balance between unsettling and beautiful.
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Guitar Wolf - Jet Generation (1999)
(http://www.girlplusboy.com/images/albums/guitarwolf-jetgeneration.jpg)
1. Jet Generation
2. Fujiyama Attack
3. Kaminari One [Jet Version]
4. Kung Fu Ramone
5. Teenage U.F.O.
6. Cosmic Space Girl
7. Roaring Blood
8. Gakulan Rider
9. Refrigerator Zero
10. Shimane Slim
11. Cyborg Kids
12. Summertime Blues
13. Can-Nana Fever [Jet Version]
Jet Generation is the sixth album from legendary lo-fi Japanese garage punk/rockabilly band Guitar Wolf. This album ships with a label on the packaging that reads, "WARNING: This is the loudest album ever recorded, Playing at normal volume may cause irreparable damage to stereo equipment. Use at your own risk." It's true. Due to Guitar Wolf's unorthodox low fidelity self-production, the source volume on their records is always earsplitting, and this record marks the most professional equipment they've ever blown up. So while the production doesn't sound any better from a technical perspective, it's very, very loud. Perhaps I'd better let Guitar Wolf himself explain how they get their sound. The following is an excerpt from an interview.
Interviewer: So, do you do the mixing, as well?
Guitar Wolf: No, engineer. The first time it was a little bit hard for me to explain our sound to engineer. I said, "Engineer, don’t move needle. Just red zone." But a professional engineer can not do at first, but after that’s no problem.
Interviewer: So after awhile they say, "OK, just red!"
Guitar Wolf: Yeah, just red!
Interviewer: Your sound, live and in the studio, seems to be getting noisier.
Guitar Wolf: Ah, yeah, recording is like live show. Not separate. Same. Same time vocals, guitar, bass, drums, yeah, and with drink alcohol.
Interviewer: Even the live show seems to be getting noisier. Like maybe there is a longer period in between songs...
Guitar Wolf: Oh really? But maybe from long time ago. I always, I like, I need noise. Because we are no skill. Our skill is no good. No technique. We need...Basic rock and roll is: Number one is looks; Number two is guts, tension; Number three is action; Maybe four, five nothing; Six is skill, technique.
That's what this band is about. You would not believe the balls on these guys. They're kind of like the Japanese Ramones, except worse, and louder. They wear leather jackets and sunglasses 24/7 and sport insane Japanese pompadours. They have a shrine to Joan Jett and cover Link Wray and the MC5 and Eddie Cochran. They just hack their instruments and scream their lungs out, but if you don't dig it, then you don't get rock & roll. They create a sound that is immediate in its distortion and intensity in the same way as a jet passing close overhead, or someone gunning the engine on a Harley. It's a band that has to be seen live to be understood (and at CBGB, not on Hey! Hey! Hey!), but this album comes closest out of all their recordings to duplicating the sound and fury of their live show. I just bought this CD this morning, and I've already listened to it about four times, back to back. It's great, better than their most recent "UFO Romantics," possibly better than their professional debut "Run Wolf Run."
The title track, "Jet Generation," is a highlight of the album. It's also, perhaps paradoxically, the most listenable song. Paradoxically, because it opens the album with a headsplitting, feedback-drenched imitation of the sound of a jet taking off on the guitar. But it's surprisingly catchy and melodic, without sacrificing the absurd urgency which is the sine qua non of Guitar Wolf's music. "Kaminari One" is so loud and distorted it seems like a pure noise track at times. It sounds, indeed, like a crack of thunder. And it's pretty typical of what comes next. This is an album of noise terrorism, not of virtuosity or even serious musicianship. The guitar solo in "Cyborg Kids" is so bad, it's laughable. But I mean literally laughable. Anyone with a pulse is gonna have a big grin on their face while this is going on. It doesn't matter if you don't know what a "Gakulan Rider" is, or any of the other half-English half-Japanese gibberish in their lyrics. It just rocks too hard for anything else to matter.
And if you need anything else to sell you on this band, they were also in a movie, "Wild Zero," with the tagline "Thrill, speed, and stupid zombies." It's almost too good to be true.
(http://www.rockofjapan.com/images/guitarwolf/interview/recording.srp.jpg)
Their official site (http://www.guitarwolf.net/) (in Japanese)
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I might have to pick up that album then, I saw that movie awhile ago; 'Guitar Wolf: Wild Zero'. Its a great schlock zombie flick :D
Good review, by the way.
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Quicky Review
Guitar Wolf: "Missle Me" cd.
Absolute chaos, 'nuff said.
Recommended for those who think Harleys are a bit on the wimpy side.
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Yeah. Buy their albums in something like this order: Jet Generation, Planet of the Wolves, UFO Romantics, Missile Me, RRE, Run Wolf Run. Then the rest. The albums at the end might be the best, but they're the least accessible. You'll have to already like the band to get past the shitty production. Then listen to Thee Michelle Gun Elephant. They also rock.
BOTPD.
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Originally posted by SamuelXDiamond:
I'm just not interested in the new Korn album (in fact, I hadn't relised they'd released it until today). I've listened to their first 4 so many times, yet just couldn't get into Untouchables at all (apart from the singles. "Here to Stay" was awesome). "Did my time" was just uninspiring.
Korn's one of those bands that I must have grown out of over time. I really liked the self-titled and "Life is Peachy," but the rest of the cd library just doesn't hold up for me. I think, personally, that their sound has yet to advance seriously, and most of their new stuff sounds like watered down versions of their old stuff. It's just not really memerable to me, anymore.
TOTPD.
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i've been listening to lots of q and not u and les savy fav lately.
does anybody here already have some records by them he/she recommend?
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Live Review.
McLusky - Cardiff Barfly.
"Play some Nick Drake!" roars a sarcastic heckler, halfway through McLusky's set. Frontman Andy Falkous glares at him. "We're about as likely to play some Nick Drake as we are to play a Bananarama song," he spits. "Who are you, why are you here?". The band tear into ace song 'To Hell with good intentions'. And suddenly, it all falls beautifully into place, as Andy screams the lyrics while apparently giving filatio to the mic, while bassist John Chapple, staggers around and hits at his strings like he is snapping Emo boys necks.
This Cardiff trio, guided by cynicism, disgust and a simple thirst for noise, have produced two of the most vital rock records you'll ever hear, in 'mypainandsadnessismoresadandp ainfulthanyours' and 'Do Dallas'. They are both bursting with frantic, two minutes punk anthems that recall the Pixies, Pavement and Nirvana. But McLusky are equally influenced by Chris Morris and Bill Hicks, and Falkous pens some of the wittiest, savage lyrics never to appear on a Fall record.
Tonights set is appropriately nasty, brutish and short. 'Alan is a Cowboy Killer' is especially frought and clamorous, 'Collagen Rock' is dedicated, through clenched teeth, to Sum41, while the climatic 'Friends Stoning Friends'is disorientating in its intensity.
The set concludes - as it must - with the solemn trashing of guitars.
Even the hecklers go home happy.
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I think you have to post live reviews in the I Got Myself a Tinnitus thread.
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Oh. Damn, well it has stuff about there album and them in general in there too.
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I discovered Apocalyptica earlier this year and was blown away that metal could be done on cellos....I first heard Harvester Of Sorrow, and have since heard a few more and woooo awesome awesome stuff....
My brother found the Rammstein song Seeman, but I didn't think it was anything special, and I also didn't like the singing....stick to the cellos boys....it's unique and brilliant.... :D
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After reading much of the hoo-ha on this board regarding The Mars Volta. I found "de-loused in the comatorium" today at the ridiculously low price of $8.99. So, I couldn't resist picking it up. Just giving it an initial listen right now. Seems alright, pretty NU sounding. Has some weird arrangemnts and atmosphere. Can't say I like the vocals though. I'll give it more of a chance before I render my verdict.
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Stick with it, it's a grower.
I like to play "guess the time-signature" on the middle-eight of "Drunkship Of Lanterns". That's the craziest bit of the album, oh, and the ride-out of "Take The Veil...."
Did you get the version with the weird remixy extra "bonus" track on the end? "Ambuletz". I got that one.
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Originally Posted by Nefnar:
A review of Dream Theater- Train of Thought
There's been a lot of controversy over that album. Most of the die-hard prog fans hate it while even some of the metalheads think it's moved too far away from what DT used to do. I only heard 6DOIT about a week ago and wasn't taken by it, and with the bad reviews I've read I doubt I'll be buying Train of thought. Since most of the bad reviews come from people with similar tastes to me, I'm inclined to trust them on this one.
Then again, it's hard to see how they could improve over Scene From a Memory, that has been my favorite album for the past two years. Te prefect blend of proggressive rock and metal IMO, and their current direction doesn't impress me. But then, I'm still considering it.
If you like DT, have you tried Pain of Salvation? I reviewed one of their albums earlier in this thread (http://www.peelified.com/cgi-bin/Futurama/12-000457-8/), they have a lot of DT influences but are much darker and more atmospheric.
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I'm always on the serach for cool local bands, and SLaytanic has turned me on to a couple (SYX springs to mind), but today I found a new one: The Shins.
Well, OK; they're not Oregon natives (they're actually transplants from Albaquerque, New Mexico), but still: they recorded the majority of their newest CD, "Chutes Too Narrow", in the basement of the lead singer's house in Portland. That wins some cool points with me, which just backs up the wicked, psychadelic-ish throwback style these guys have. It's pretty unique, and I think that they come off as pretty refreshing because of it.
I'd link to a homepage or something, but they don't seem to have one. :(
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I have come up with a way to double the music you have. Reverse it.
At the moment I'm listening to Coldplay's A Rush Of Blood To The Head in reverse. It's amazing, one of the best things I've ever heard. After this I'm gonna try Parachutes, and then maybe some Radiohead.
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Are you serious?
What programme do you use to play music with?
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Originally posted by evan:
Korn's one of those bands that I must have grown out of over time. I really liked the self-titled and "Life is Peachy," but the rest of the cd library just doesn't hold up for me. I think, personally, that their sound has yet to advance seriously, and most of their new stuff sounds like watered down versions of their old stuff. It's just not really memerable to me, anymore.
TOTPD.
I'm the same. Korn are funny though in the sense that with every new album they release, thay always say its darker and heavier than anything they've done before. And john davis seems to have a new personal problem with each record.
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Originally posted by SweetSweetCandy:
Korn are funny though in the sense that with every new album they release, thay always say its darker and heavier than anything they've done before. And john davis seems to have a new personal problem with each record.
It's true, it's all true! :laff: I've read many KoRn interviews before albums, when they've said just that. 'Issues' was meant to be their darkest heaviest offering yet, and personal to Johnathon Davis. Then after it came out, he said that KoRn's odd numbered albums are always the best, and that 'Untouchables' would be an odd number, so therefore one of their best. It was also supposed to be their heaviest offering to date, and the production and time gap were both used as selling points. But when it didn't sell really well, now 'Take a Look in the Mirror' is supposed their darkest heaviest album...
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Has anyone reviewed the new Offspring Album yet....? I got it for my birthday so here we go....
(http://www.thefryhole.alltoons.co.uk/peeluploads/Splinter2.JPG)
Splinter is a cool title, I read in an interview with Dexter Holland it represents the different sounds the band tried to produce on the album and I reckon they did a good job....
It's typical Offspring with the current single "Hit That" doing the rounds....very catchy I loved it from the first listen....
Other stand out songs for me on the album are "(Can't get my) Head Around You" and "Race Against Myself"
I'm not good at describing songs just listen to them and judge for yourself....if you like/love Offspring then you'll love this offerring....if you've never liked them give this one a go anyway because the songs are catchy and well written....
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Kíla - Luna Park (2003)
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000E32X8.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
1. Glanfaidh Me 9:19
2. Hebden Bridge 3:26
3. Wandering Fish 5:48
4. The Mama Song 4:08
5. Baroki 9:11
6. Beilin Meala 4:40
7. Bully's Acre 4:14
8. Grand Hotel 6:48
9. Maith Dhom 2:28
10. Luna Park 10:51
11. The Hour Before Dawn 3:42
I thought I'd actually review a (reasonably) new album this time. This one came out in the summer, but only dropped in the US in November. I've been listening to it ever since, and I think I've just now reached the point where I have something to say about it. See, this is a difficult album to review, because, like most of Kíla's output, it is extremely sophisticated. Torturously so.
Anyway, if you don't know who Kíla are, they're a more or less totally insane septet from - Dublin I think - that have been saddled with the chore of "breathing new life into Irish traditional music" or words to that effect. Fortunately, they don't seem to be letting the pressure get to them. Luna Park is their fifth studio album (they've done a bunch of side projects, too), and it maintains the sense they've always had of having a lot of fun while making it.
Kíla is nothing like what you might expect when you hear the term "Irish traditional music." That's the "new life" part. There's no fat guy in a sweater singing "Galway Bay," no new-age philosophers, no pictures of dolmens and celtic crosses on the album cover, just music that actually sounds like it came out of a bunch of worldly musicians in busy, urban, multicultural, bohemian Dublin.
As is sort of typical of Kíla albums, Luna Park is seven instrumentals and four songs, and the songs here are all in Irish, but they usually have English translations of their lyrics on their website (http://www.kila.ie). As is also typical, the instrumentation is a mix of traditional instruments, rock standbys, and an absurd variety of "world music" style percussion like shakers, maracas, and varous types of hand drums, which lead to characteristically intense rhythms. They've always managed to make the bodhrán sound like an African drum group, if you see what I mean.
Luna Park is much more conceptual than previous albums, however, and tips its hat much less to the traditional Irish musical structures. The three longest instrumentals are still divided up into multiple, individually titled sets, but they are much less like the pseudo-traditional reels, like "Double Knuckle Shuffle" on Tóg É Go Bog É, for example. Okay, maybe "Bully's Acre" is a double jig, but that's it. The album, thanks to time spent on recording, rerecording, and overdubbing, also has a massive huge sound. I mean a John Coltrane "Love Supreme" kind of wall of sound. Each of the seven band members plays three or four instruments on each song (usually different ones every song), plus there are a number of guest musicians, so sometimes there's thirteen musicians with close to thirty different instruments and seven singers over the course of a song. This also creates a sound for the album that is eclectic even by Kíla's standards; there's instruments I've never even heard of in the liner notes. It also bears the touch of an enormous amount of production and effort spent in the recording studio and the mixing room. It was recorded by the band at their own studio, and then mixed by Mick Glossop (who has produced the like of Stevie Wonder and Frank Zappa). So while all this production means it doesn't capture the live experience of Kíla, the boundless energy for playing or the interactive involvement of their style of music, it does capture the rhythm and intensity, and the devotion to producing sounds you've never heard before.
Sort of unexpectedly, this foray into ten minute instrumentals with what sound like forty instruments also contains Kíla's most legitimate attempt yet at a mainstream pop song. "The Mama Song" was hyped even before the album was released as something to hear, and it is. It's got the de rigeur driving rhythm on the bodhrán and congas and some other stuff I don't recognize, with a pretty killer rhythmic instrumental line, and on top of that the lyrics are delivered with a machine gun pace and intensity even more stirring than on "Tine Lasta" from their Lemonade & Buns album. Don't worry about the words; the language can be very poetic, but most of it just sounds silly translated into English. And ok, Rónán hasn't got the greatest voice in the world, but he's always intense, and that's what counts with this band. They've never really been about the singing, anyway.
So overall, if you like Kíla, this album is a departure from their earlier studio albums, and takes a bit more studied appreciation because of the sheer complexity and thickness of the sound. But at the same time, it maintains their trademark addictive rhythms and deadly serious sense of fun. So if you like their stuff, I can't imagine not liking this one.
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Linkin Park - Live in Texas
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Yeah I'm aware that this has already been reviewed before. But I bought it a while ago, and I've only just got round to listening to the CD part of it.
And to be honest, I'm pretty dissapointed. It's pretty obvious that its been cleaned up in the studio. I was expecting that anyway. I'd never think that it'd be completely live. But it's been cleaned up to the point where its lost its live vibe. There were times while listening to it that I forgot I was listening to Live in Texas and just thought I was listening to the tracks off Meteora or Hybrid Theory.
There are some tracks on there that sound pretty much the same as they do on the albums. But some tracks you can tell are live. However, 'P5hng Me A*wy' from Reanimation is an acception. This is my fave track on this particular album. It stands out from the others somehow, but again, you can tell its been cleaned up a lot. It's still very cool though.
In my opinnion it's the weakest Linkin Park release to date. I wouldn't really recommend it all that much. It's Hybrid Theory and Meteora joined together with a bit of talking and crowd cheering in between some of the tracks. I still like it, I dont think I'd ever hate anything LP released, being a huge fan of their music. But I'm just a little disspaointed thats all.
But overall, its alright I guess.
I'd give it 4.5/10 :)
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canned eggs didn't mention the Futurama reference,
BURN HER!!
There ain't no K in the Irish language, what's that about?
Must give 'em a listen!
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I wanted to let the "Luna Park" thing stand for itself. Why else would I be reviewing it? And yeah, Kíla's not really an Irish word. I don't get it either.
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Um, is Luna Park purposefully copying/homaging Dave Matthews Band's cover for Under the Table and Dreaming? Because they look remarkably, remarkably, similiar.
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I think they're just both pictures of carnival rides. It's probably a coincidence.
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blackmail - friend or foe
released: 2003
label: wea (warner music)
total playtime: 42:57
tracklist:
1. airdrop
2. evon
3. it could be yours
4. on the tightrope
5. sunday sister.
6. fast summer
7. leave
8. nobody's home
9. dive
10. all mine
11. friend
"whoa. spiff's reviewing a record of a major label? what's happening?" you might ask. but it's a special band we're talking about here... ;)
i guess nobody (except maybe for bloodclot and booze) has ever heard of blackmail and that is a shame, a damn shame. if blackmail were from the uk or the usa, most of you would know them. they would be touring with the foo fighters or queens of the stone age and their videos would get aired on mtv.
blackmail however are from a small german town called koblenz, so there goes that fantasy.
blackmail play rock, simple as that. if i would describe it, i'ld say: the melodies of the foo fighters in the color-and-the-shape-era, queens of the stone age like energy,muse's production and complexity and placebo-ish vocals.
the album starts extremely calm, almost shy and kind of beatles-like (the later beatles, that is) with airdrop, which about half-way through after some violins and pathos (not annoying pathos though) launches into a rock-song. the next few songs are all very good rock songs, sunday sister however sticks out: it's calm and has steel guitars and certainly adds a nice new perspective to that album. the next song, leave is a another rock-song and one of my personal favorites. the album culminates in the 9:37 friend, which is a song worthy to end such a great album.
what did it for me to call this album "great" - after all, it can't be called revolutionary, it's just plain rock - are two things: first of all, the melodies. after listening to the album for the first time, i was already able to recall every song at least partly. these are just songs that stick in your mind, the album seems homogenous but the songs don't sound the same. the second thing would be the production: blackmail recorded the album in their own studio and you hear that - they took time to perfect it. the album sounds kind of streamlined, but you can easilly distinguish every instrument. furthermore, you have all these little effects in the background that add something to the song, but you can't put your finger on it and you'll only notice them if you listen to the album with headphones, which is something i strongly recommend. you'll discover some interesting things there...
as for the songs, the highlights for me were airdrop for it's great intro, evon, leave for it's nice melody and the rather simple yet effective drumming and all mine because of it's great end.
i will rate this album as high as i can rate an album that doesn't add something new the genre but that's just really good: 8.5
links: www.blackmail-music.com (http://www.blackmail-music.com)[/url]
as the album is not available in neither the uk or the usa, you can contact me if you wanna check it out...
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If I think on the best MusicCD of the Year 2003 than it will be "The Concert for George". One Year (November 2002) after the orbituary of George Harrison all his friends and several other great musicians have met in the Royal Albert Hall in London and made one of the best concerts in the recent time. With Paul McCartney, Eric Clapton, Jeff Lynne, Ringo Starr, Terry Gilliam and others. Check out the DVD-Movie too because there is a wonderful stage performance by Monty Python (reunited for that concert) and Tom Hanks.
I would give 9/10.
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The Flower Kings- Stardust We Are
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Another band you've most likely not heard of. The Flower Kings hail from Sweden where they make a kind of psychedelic retro-prog rock pop sort of thing. The best way to describe it would be a combination of Yes, Weather Report, early Genesis and a bit of Zappa thrown in for good measure. That might sound weird but they actually make some very beautiful music that just takes a little while to get into.
I got Stardust We Are after buying their latest album Unfold The Future and their new DVD set (a review of which I'll put in the DVD review thread at some point). £16.99 was a lot to pay for an album but then again I got two discs with two hours worth of music on so I can hardly complain.
This is where most of the criticism of FK is targeted. A lot of the material could be filler- they like their space-age jamming sessions. It's all a matter of taste really, but I'll say most of the album is okay for listening to (maybe I'll like it better when I've had more listens to it) but there are a few songs that stand out above the rest and make it worth buying. 'In the Eyes of the World' is a great opener and just a rockin tune. 'Church of Your Heart' is a nice extended ballad while 'Just This Once' seems to be the albums pop tune. 'Circus Brimstone' is one of the better jamming sessions FK have done, and thankfully moves into a more structured song. I also like 'The End of Innocence' and 'The Merrygoround'.
It is 'Stardust We Are' that is the gem of the album. FK's best songs are their epics, and 'Stardust We Are' is 25 minutes of wonderful songwriting. It basically combines everything on the album- the psychedelic, the jazzy, the rocky and the experimental. Simply brilliant IMO.
This album is much more accessible than Unfold the Future but I prefer UTF for it's experimentation and jazz influences. I don't know who I'd recommend this album to, probably anyone who wants to listen to something very different, or who feels brave enough to spend the money. 8/10
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Nightwish: Wishmaster
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Track list
1:She is my sin
2:The Kinslayer
3:Come Cover Me
4:Wanderlust
5:Two for Tradedy
6:Wishmaster
7:Bare Grace Misery
8:Crownless
9: Deep Silent Complete
10: Dead Boy's Poem
11:FantasMic
Basically I had heard a few things by Nughtwish and started to get into them. So I went out a got thsi album. First things first I guess I should say what type of music Nightwish make. I think it is quite hard to label them, while yes it is metal, it is harder to pin down the type of metal it is. I believe the best way to describe them is a operatic metal.
The style harks to a sort of epic style akin to Kamelot (who i think are great). The music can be very powerful at points and subtle at others. I find Tarja's voice to be hauntingly beautiful and works extremly well for the lyrics she is singing.
The music is in the vain of epic metal as such you can expect certain styles of songs from it. Let me put it this way. If you like bands like Kamelot and Rhapsody, then you are going to love this album. If your open minded to music then I would give this a go as I think it is good.
I like this album a with give it a personal A
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Prodigy - Baby's Got A Temper (single)
2002
You know, Baby’s Got A Temper is defiantly the most disliked Prodigy track they've ever done. I sometimes find it hard to understand why really. EVERYONE came down on them about it though, the media, the fans, and even Liam Howlett himself. It's almost an agreed fact that BGAT wasn't that good, even between die-hard fans. I disagree though, I really LOVE the track! Personally, I think the main reason for people coming down on it was Keith’s vocals, and I find that for some reason, most people just CAN'T get past that, and see the rest of the track for what it is. The vocals create a similarity to past work, making it seem less fresh. The other reason a lot of people didn't like it, was because it wasn't a hugely different sound to ‘The Fat of The Land’ like people were expecting. However, just the same as people can't get past Keith’s vocals, the other thing people can't get past is the fact it's similar to FOTL, but neither of those facts make it bad.
To solve the Keith problem, just listen to the instrumental, and to solve the FOTL problem, just imagine it coming out at the same time as FOTL, and I bet people wouldn’t have come down on it so hard if it had. For some reason, people seem to get trapped by one or the other of those things, or in some cases both. I personally love it though, and although it has a FOTL sound, it also has a lot of awesome old skool dance synth sounds, but used in a new way, in a different way to FOTL. It’s not just a FOTL sound; it’s definitely a progression of it, and more built up. I think Keith’s vocals actually detract from the track itself, and take away some of the power and energy. Ironic really, when you consider Keith wrote the track, and his lyrics are what inspired Liam.
When I listen to the instrumental, I hear a beautifully crafted, amazingly powerful piece of music, overflowing with sounds and samples, which somehow amazingly fit perfectly together, to create a wall of sound. The structure is unlike any other Prodigy track, and has a unique build up, which keeps going, and getting stronger and feels like it's getting faster, even when it’s not. To me it feels like a runaway train, building up momentum, and then near the end it all stops, and we get just a small loop from the very beginning on it's own again, out of nowhere, reminding us where it started. And then it crashes back in with that incredibly unique and awesome synth lead, and that storming powerful bass. It’s made up of different segments, which all complement each other, but are strong and different to each other in their own right. And to top it off, the production is tighter than a ducks ass. It's just something that knowone other than Liam Howlett could make, and I love the structure. Ironically, Keith could also be responsible for this awesome structure too, just not what’s in it.
The momentum build up doesn't stop after the repeated play of that beginning loop, instead it merely pauses, while the loop perfectly flows on from it, and then the synth lead crashes in again, just reminding us how powerful this track is, incase we’d gotten used to it by that stage. The Sonics are on different spectrums, but fit seamlessly together. It’s taking the listener by surprise, and then reminding them where they are. And at the end of the day, the instrumental sounds NOTHING like ANYTHING else I've ever heard, it really is a field of one. Really unique, cloolsome and amazingly awesome. The Dub mix is cloolsome too, harnessing Keith's best vocal moments, while letting the music breathe. It’s not my favorite Prodigy track, there’s plenty of other I prefer, but I still love the hell out of this track too. The point I’m making is my opinion; in saying it’s not as bad as what everything thinks. Sure a new direction would rule, and we’ll get that with the new album. However, this style is still awesome to me as well :cool:
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woops, wrong thread
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People thought Baby's Got a Temper was crap? :confused:
I think it's ok.
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I don't think it's crap as such, more of a disappointment that it wasn't another groundbreaking reinvention. A case of people's expectations affecting their judgement.
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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
People thought Baby's Got a Temper was crap? :confused:
I think it's ok.
Yeah, if you go to pretty much any Prodigy message board, you'll find people slagging it off and tearing it to pieces. I've seen it all too many times. Liam Howlett has said since it's release that he regrets releasing it, and he was never really happy with it. And every review I've read in any music magazine totally ripped it to pieces. This is what NME had to say about it, taken from their website:
NME's review
Prodigy : Baby's Got A Temper
They were the firestarters, twisted firstarters, and now they're just total fucking idiots. The Prodigy: grown, pierced men who live in palatial Essex mansions and who laughably believe that singing a chorus of "we use royphonol" over some crappy casio riff will make them appear edgy, vital and dangerous again. No. It makes them seedy old men with bad hair trying to recapture past glories by employing the final weapon of the comically desperate: the drug song.
Worse, it's the drug song about bad drugs. This is a drug that sends you to sleep, that wipes short term memory and gives you a headache. Glue is cheaper and on this evidence more fun. Hence the first genuinely shit Prodigy single ever. Does that mean Leroy was actually the talented one?
Ted Kessler
That review really annoyed me, but this is the kind of thing I was talking about.
And I agree with what MOV said too :)
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That NME review is harsh. I actually quite like the song myself, I'm pretty fond of it. But I guess its all a matter of personal opinnion really :)
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Most music magazines frustrate me because their reviews are much too based upon the opinion of the writer and not nearly descriptive enough of the actual record. NME's a shining example and that's just one of their many reviews that showcases their yobbish level of judgement.
Anyways, with friends like Otis, who needs NME?
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Originally posted by ZombieJesus:
Are you serious?
What programme do you use to play music with?
Sound play for BeOS can play mp3s backwards (and at speed varying from -400% to +400%) so I'm sure there is a player for Windows/Linux that will do the same. If not you could always install the free version of BeOS 5 =P
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What I do is make it a wav file, put it into Sound Recorder and reverse it in there, and then convert it back to mp3.
Mmmm... sound recorder.
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Pfft, sound recorder won't do a good job, Audacity (http://download.com.com/3000-2170-10119106.html?tag=lst-0-1) will!!
It has a reverse function.
Damn, I whore that program a lot! :p
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Have any of the Aussies heard of a band called Gerling (http://www.gerling.net.au/)? They're coming to the UK and it's a possiblility of a support slot.
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The Triple J (the radio station I listen to) Hottest 100 is always good, voting takes place to get the top 100 songs of the previous year. The top 10:
1. Jet - Are You Gonna Be My Girl?
2. Outkast - Hey Ya!
3. The White Stripes - Seven Nation Army
4. Powderfinger - (Baby I’ve Got You) On My Mind
5. Coldplay - Clocks (Royksopp Remix)
6. The Cat Empire - Hello
7. Powderfinger - Sunsets
8. John Butler Trio - Zebra
9. Hilltop Hoods - The Nosebleed Section
10. Powderfinger - Love Your Way
Full List Here (http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/hottest100/history/2003.htm)
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Incubus – A Crow Left Of The Murder[/u]
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1. Megalomaniac
2. A Crow Left Of The Murder
3. Agoraphobia
4. Talk Shows On Mute
5. Beware! Criminal
6. Sick Sad Little World
7. Pistola
8. Southern Girl
9. Priceless
10. Zee Deveel
11. Made For TV Movie
12. Smile Lines
13. Here In My Room
14. Leech
Incubus’ new album is a welcome release for the new year. Starting off with the fantastic single Megalomaniac (a problem, as I always have difficulty getting past the most popular track if it’s first on the record), the rest of the album is a nice evolution in the Incubus sound. This time, they’ve taken in some prog references (perhaps been listening to The Mars Volta’s album?) as some of the tracks, most notably Pistola bring in odd-time signatures and proggy middle-eights.
This album was recorded and mixed in four-weeks, so it shows what can be done without resorting to six-month studio marathons. They’ve still got a polished sound and Brendan O’Brien (Soundgarden, Pearl Jam)’s production is sweet.
Standout tracks are the aformentioned Megalomaniac and Pistola, along with The Crow Left Of The Murder, and Talk Shows On Mute.
All in all, excellent.
8/10
Lostprophets – Start Something[/u]
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1. We Still Kill The Old Way
2. To Hell We Ride
3. Last Train Home
4. Make A Move
5. Burn Burn
6. I Don't Know
7. Hello Again
8. Goodbye Tonight
9. Start Something
10. A Million Miles
11. Last Summer
12. We Are Godzilla, You Are Japan
13. Sway...
Lostprophets new album is another home run, running nicely on from previous album, The Fake Sound Of Progress. Although it’s fair to say that first single, Burn Burn had us worried, the next, Last Train Home was a return to what we expect from the Swansea rockers.
Yet again, evotution is the key, and they’ve taken in some infuences. Fellow brit-rockers ‘A’ are in there, and seminal alternative metal godfathers Faith No More (especuially in title track, Start Something).
Standout tracks are both singles (surprisingly Burn Burn sounds good on the album, bizarre!), as well as the opening two tracks and the aformentioned, Start Something.
8/10
….one from the archives.
TheAudience – TheAudience[/u]
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1. A Pessimist Is Never Disappointed
2. Now That You Are 18
3. Mr. Doasyouwouldbedoneby
4. I Know Enough (I Don't Get Enough)
5. Keep In Touch
6. I Got The Wherewithal
7. Harry Don't Fetch The Water
8. If You Can't Do It When You're Young; When Can You Do It?
9. Running Out Of Space
10. You Get What You Deserve
11. The More There Is To Do
12. Bells For David Keenan
13. Shoebox Song
14. How's That?
Before Sophie Ellis Bextor was a chart-storming disco diva, she was in an indie rock band. This is their one and only album, full of light, poppy and sometimes melancholy trips through late-90’s britpop (reminiscant of Pulp and The Pretenders).
Standout tracks are the brilliant: I Got The Wherewithal, You Get What You Deserve and the bizarrely titled Harry Don’t Fetch The Water.
Sophie was just 18 when she was in this band, and it doesn’t show, with her now trademark middle-class drawl a main feature of all of the songs on show here. This has been a staple of my CD Collection and I’m glad I bought it. If you can find it, check it out.
7/10
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Agreed on the Lostprophets album. I've had more time to get into it now. It feels more coherent than 'FSOP', and flows really well. There's still plenty of experimentation, which is good to hear, and helps keep the album fresh the whole way through. My fave trax are 'Make a Move', 'Hello Again' and 'Last Summer'. Although 'Burn Burn' was a disappointment, you're right, I don't know how, but amazingly is somehow sounds kinda good on here. 'Last Train Home' is still a lot better though. I like the heaviness on some of the tracks on this album too.
Having said that, I also absolutely love the surprise ending track which follows on from 'Sway'. It's probably the best thing Jamie Oliver has done for the band. One of the cloolest, most relaxing, chilled out songs ever! It's so different, yet fits on so well. I'd rate it about 8/10 too.
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not a review, but music-related news nontheless:
the pixies are playing several european festivals this year (yes, they reunited for that), for example roskilde.
sparta are done recording their album and are now in the process of mixing it. expected release date around april.
and the real reason why i am posting this:
mclusky announced the title for their upcoming album and it's going to have the best album name ever: the difference between me and you is that i am not on fire. go mclusky!
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I'd heard that The Pixies are definately playing T In The Park. I've seen Frank Black & The Catholics before, I'd more prefer to see The Pixies.
In other news, Rush will finally be touring Europe this year as it's their 30th Anniversary, the first time they've toured Europe since 1992 (when I saw them last.)
Can't wait.
EDIT: Oh, and I just heard that Nick Oliveri has split with Queens Of The Stone Age, bummer.
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Yay! Time for my first review. A somewhat jumbled heap, a little incoherent, maybe too little actual information, but this is all you get:
Kira And The Kindred Spirits - Happiness Saves Lives
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Samples:
HERE (http://www.lytteposten.dk) Go to the top right corner, type in "Kira" and press enter. Something (only 1 item, to my knowledge) should appear.
Select it and the tracklist should appear. You should be able to figure it out from there.
First of all: This album is some of the best I have EVER heard. With some music you do not have to decide whether you like it or not. It's simply a matter of realizing that you cannot live without it. That has happened to me with only a few bands, and Kira And The Kindred Spirits is one of those bands... That's all you really NEED to know, although I must admit- it might not be so easy to get your hands on it. So if you know what's good for you, wou will stop reading and put all your efforts into getting to know how you can get this album.
The title of this album may indeed be Happiness Saves Lives, but do not expect this album to bring you the happiness that is suppposed to save that sorry life of yours. Anyone who has heard the songs and listened to the lyrics can testify to this, because they will know that they are actually quite bum-out songs (the majority). The songs have got a very open, personal, intimate and honest feel to them, and just do a quick background check on Kira Skov (The lead singer and main (wo)man) and you will find that these songs actually depict a small portion of her experiences in life and the album somehow represents a tattered scrapbook of sorts.
But this is all just background, which does probably not interest all of you (and that's ALL of you) who do not know the music, so here is a grossly unfulfilling description of the music, the voice (the voice is it with this band) and everything. The first thing that strikes you when you push 'play' is the voice. I choose to classify it as the one and only best "dirty" voice (not that kind of dirty) on the entire planet. It's the kind ogf voice that says "I've been around and I have never learned to sing properly, but listen to this anyways". Not that it is off-key or she is unprecise in any way. Her voice is sharp, hoarse and it cracks up every now and then, but it rings out beautifully with both endless frailty and vulnerable yet unyielding strength. Confused? I hope not, but listen to the samples and you should understand.
The music is sort of garage rock-ish at places (a LITTLE like The Strokes, but with more *crunch* instead of *twang* on the guitar- did that make sense), and very low-key acoustic at others (most of the time, actually and fortunately).
So the majority of the songs are quiet melancholic ones, and these are the ones that really touch your soul, and they really make the occasional up-tempo songs stand out with more force. And once again, Kira's voice diserves credit- she transmits each and every emotion so magnificently, and she varies her voice endlessly. Popping and clicking like a classic vinyl, sometimes the voice breaks off and falls out completely, but in the most exquisite manner I have everheard. It gives the songs a feel of sincerity, and it doesn't sound like it's been through endless post-production processing. This is good. Really good. Good in much the same way as a really mesmerizing street musician that just draws every last one of your attention sensors to him/her. Not because his music is crafted with wuv by angles, but because you feel quite strongly what the musician is trying to vent. And in the case of Kira Skov, this is saying a lot, because there is quite a large heap of bottled up pain on this album. And if you're ready to blown away and bummed out(or at least have your empathy exercised), feel free to get this album and dive right in.
Overall rating: 95% (I LOVE this band)
And as a live band... wow! That girl is her music. But that's not for this thread.
[EDIT]I was backtracking this thread and decided to take out the festival stuff, because it's irrelevant now[/EDIT]
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In other news, Rush will finally be touring Europe this year as it's their 30th Anniversary, the first time they've toured Europe since 1992 (when I saw them last.)
Cool! I'll have to add that to my list of gigs this year. I got Rush in Rio recently, which just rocked!
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I just got my hands on Barenaked Ladies' Everything to Everyone. Something is just a little off, though. I really don't like it.
It's just not as fun as Gordon or as fresh as Stunt or as new as Maroon. It seems fairly unpolished and anemic.
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Just curious, anyone got or heard Dave Grohl's latest project, "Probot" yet?...
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No, but I hella want it. I've only heard the Lemmy track so far and it kicks-arse!
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English people are saying hella now? What is the world coming to? I was clinging to the dream that if I could just get out of northern California, I would never hear that word again. This is the nefarious influence of South Park, isn't it. I knew that show was warping young minds...
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I've been using that word for at least as long as I've been posting here, and you're noticing now?
It's half South Park and half Lars Ulrich, both bad influences.
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It's crap, that's what it is. I hate that word. But, on-topic:
The Kings of Leon - Youth & Young Manhood
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00009YFP8.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
This "rock revival" puzzles me. Where do people think rock & roll went? Where I've been looking at least, there's been rock that stayed classic, hard, and raw on a constant basis ever since Mtv, and later, grunge, drove capital "R" Rock out of the mainstream. You just had to look for it, in places like Scandinavia and Japan, and smoky bars far away from college towns. Two of my biggest pets right now, Guitar Wolf and the Hellacopters, have been pushing this stuff since the early and mid '90s, respectively. Revival my ass. So I at least was prepared for a mainstream movement like this, and if Youth & Young Manhood is any test, it is good, despite what you may think of the Strokes, or the Datsuns, or whoever.
Brief bio; stuff that I had to look up, but it's good context: the band is from Tennessee, it's three brothers, who are the sons of an itinerant Pentecostal preacher, plus their cousin. The singer's name is Caleb, which is probably a good sign.
The sound on this record really is retro. It's gritty, bluesy, drawled, stomp-along southern rock in the old old school, with no radio hooks, a tambourine on every downbeat, and none of the lighters-held-high pathos and drama of the glam southern rock of the '70s, like Lynyrd Skynyrd. Nor does it suffer from the attempted cleverness of most southern acts trying to be Hank Williams, Jr. And this authenticity is surprising from a band so firmly entrenched in the ultra-cynical "retro" category. You can almost see yourself listening to the band play some run-down southern gothic bar at the end of a dirt road somewhere in Tipton county. The record has a thin, underproduced sound, like an old delta blues act. If you want an idea of what it sounds like, think of what the Rolling Stones were trying to sound like when they did their own bluesy southern rock stuff, like "Honky Tonk Woman" or RJ's "Love in Vain." Caleb's delivery of the lyrics might be the highlight of the band's sound. He establishes this laid back, twangy grumbling, then increases it to a jumpy, fevered howl, but it always just rolls and trips off his tongue half a word at a time, with broad southern vowels and not near enough consonants. You have to hear it to appreciate how cool his accent is.
I had never heard any of the songs on the album when I bought it, but I assume there are singles, because the album shipped with a sticker on the front advertising that it contained the songs "Molly's Chambers," "Spiral Staircase," and "California Waiting." These three songs are catchy, but I'm sort of tired of them after a few days. I think the album is at its most successful on less radio-friendly songs like "Happy Alone" and "Joe's Head," when it ventures into darker territory, shies away from the pop sound, and really gets back to the musical and lyrical roots of blues-rock.
So overall, while southern rock is not the greatest genre in the world, the Kings of Leon seem to lend it some credibility. Meh, I give it an A.
http://www.kingsofleon.com/ (http://www.kingsofleon.com/)
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(http://hometown.aol.co.uk/Jamesbondcja/ramones.all)
Wow, what a CD! The ramones greatest hits sung by a great selection of artists, heres the low down:
Havana Affair - Red Hot Chili Peppers
Blitzkrieg Bop - Rob Zombie
I Believe In Miracles - Eddie Vedder & Zeke
53rd & 3rd - Metallica
Beat On The Brat - U2
Do You Remember Rock 'N' Roll Radio - Kiss
The KKK Took My Baby Away - Marilyn Manson
I Just Wanna Have Something To Do - Garbage
Outsider - Green Day
Something To Believe In - The Pretenders
Sheena Is A Punk Rocker - Rancid
I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend - Pete Yorn
I Wanna Be Sedated - The Offspring
Here Today, Gone Tomorrow - Rooney
Return of Jackie & Judy - Tom Waits
Daytime Dilemma (Dangers Of Love) - Eddie Vedder & Zeke
Today Your Love, Tomorrow The World - John Frusciante
The only one which seems a little odd to me is Beat On The Brat sung here by U2 seems really off compared to the rest of the disc, it is more interesting than good but certanley worth a listen.
The real surprise is a great conterebution by Garbage, much better than their normal stuff.
Kiss, Chilli Peppers, Rancid, Rob Zombie and all the rest do an awesome job of these songs aswell as coming with a cool little book!
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There's a really awesome I think all-Scandinavian Ramones tribute album called The Song Ramones The Same, on White Jazz records, that was released the first anniversary of Joey's death.
(http://www.slamrocks.com/img/ramones_tribute.jpg)
1.Sahara Hotnights: Rockaway Beach
2.Cool Millions: The KKK Took My Baby Away
3.Sort Sol: Blitzkrieg Bop
4.The Nomads featuring Kissettes: I Remember You
5.D.A.D: Havana Affair
6.Hellacopters: What'd Ya Do
7.Per Gessle: I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend
8.Satirnine: Mama's Boy
9.The Dictators: I Just Want To Have Something To Do
10.Sator: Mental Hell
11.Whale: Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue
12.Wolf: I'm Not Afraid Of Life
13.Wayne Kramer: Bonzo Goes To Bitburg
14.Toilet Boys: Carbona Not Glue
15.Maryslim: I Believe In Miracles
16.Wilmer X: I Can't Make It On Time
17.Danko Jones: The Return Of Jackie And Judy
18.Backyard Babies: Pet Semetary
19.Jesse malin: Questioningly
Quicky review: I think this one's better than the mainstream one. These bands are all real raw hard rockers, so you don't get overproduced imitations, you get real garage-sounding covers. But then I'm not very objective when it comes to Scandinavian hard rock. When I grow up I'm gonna marry the Hellacopters.
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That last one rocks ass! The cover is a strandard jevelcase slid inside a cardboard sleeve with denim print and a "torn" torn in it. The picture doesn't really show it well, but it looks quite good.
And like I said: It is very good in my opinion.
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The US release has a different, crappier cover.
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Tell me about it :rolleyes: I always hate geting different album covers from the original. Also, I've still haven't listened to those two albums yet, good thing this reminded me :p
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Good review of Kings of Leon eggs, I got a lend of their CD before Xmas and I'm still listening to them.
The guys voice is great, kinda lazy at times but he can really belt them out if he gets going.
I like Holy Roller Novocaine.
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I have listened to some of the tracks of that one CannedEggs, they sound really good...bah now I need more money. :D
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I'd seen Kings of Leon touring with the Strokes. Very good show... but I had no idea what he was singing. Must be the accent. Anyway, that was the first I'd heard them, and later I'd get me a copy of the album. Swell review, eggs.
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Something fun, and I didn't think it warranted a whole new thread for. Albums by year my fave albums by year, with some gaps for years I don't have faves for...
1975: Aerosmith - Toys in the Attic
1986: Iron Maiden - Somewhere in Time
1987: Def Leppard - Hysteria
1988: Metallica - ...And Justice For All
1989: Lenny Kravitz - Let Love Rule
1990: Alice in Chains - Facelift
1991: Nirvana - Nevermind
1992: Prodigy - The Prodigy Experience
1993: Anthrax - Sound of White Noise
1994: Prodigy - Music For The Jilted Generation
1995: Alice in Chains - Alice in Chains
1996: Jamiroquai - Travelling Without Moving
1997: Prodigy - The Fat of The Land
1998: Anthrax - Volume 8, The Threat Is Real
1999: Mindset - A Bullet For Cinderella
2000: Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory
2001: Lenny Kravitz - Lenny
2002: Jerry Cantrell - Degredation Trip
2003: Linkin Park - Meteora
2004(so far...): Lostprophets - Start Something
It's a lot harder than it looks, having to sacrifice so many albums, and only choose one per year as the best...
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I thought you were only 20?
Buy a lot of albums before you were born did ya? :p
I assume of course you have a reasonable selection from those years?
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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
I thought you were only 20?
Buy a lot of albums before you were born did ya? :p
I assume of course you have a reasonable selection from those years?
I am 20, but only one of those albums came out before I was born ;) And yeah, I do have a reasonable selection from most of those years (especially the 90's)...
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Good choice too, there's some great tracks on Toys in the Attic.
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Has anyone heard the new Blink cd?
I don't get Stockholm Syndrome, like the letter at the beginning. Is it some history reference?
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Bender: "I'm coming down with Stockholm Syndrome....baby."
I haven't heard the Blink cd, but Stockholm syndrome is when a captive falls in love with the one who's holding them hostage.
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"One of the most obvious examples of Blink-182's experimentation is "Stockholm Syndrome," which begins with an elderly woman reciting a letter Hoppus' grandfather wrote his wife while fighting in World War II...
"Real sincere, genuine letters from the worst war in history," DeLonge explained. "So we created this really sad soundtrack beyond the letters. And then it goes into the most aggressive punk rock anthem you've ever heard."
Aha, there we go. X)
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A couple of points:
I'll do a best of year list, I know my last four or so, but I'd have to wrack my brain to go back further.
When I think of Kings Of Leon, I think of Stillwater, the band from Almost Famous.
I'm interested in getting the new Blink CD, I'm kinda liking the direction they are taking.
Oh, and "Make A Move" from the new Lostprophets album is like my current favourite song.
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
Agreed on the Lostprophets album... My fave trax are 'Make a Move'...
Originally posted by Melllvar:
Oh, and "Make A Move" from the new Lostprophets album is like my current favourite song.
Cloolsome choice, that's my fave track on the album too. And I'll be intereted to see your "Best by year" list...
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Okeydokey, here goes for a best by year list (from the year that I started buying albums):
1983: Duran Duran - Seven & The Ragged Tiger
1984: Madonna - Like A Virgin
1985: Depeche Mode - Singles 81-85
1986: Simple Minds - Once Upon A Time
1987: New Order - Substance '87
1988: Iron Maiden - Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son
1989: New Order - Technique
1990: Depeche Mode - Violator
1991: Metallica - Metallica
1992: Faith No More - Angel Dust
1993: Depeche Mode - Songs Of Faith & Devotion
1994: Prodigy - Music For The Jilted Generation
1995: Garbage - Garbage
1996: Metallica - Load
1997: Faith No More - Album Of The Year
1998: Deftones - Around The Fur
1999: Foo Fighters - There Is Nothing Left To Lose
2000: Queens Of The Stone Age - Rated R
2001: System Of A Down - Toxicity
2002: Queens Of The Stone Age - Songs For The Deaf
2003: The Mars Volta - De-Loused In The Comatorium
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Cloolsome and interesting list. Although I thought Deftones - Around The Fur came out in 1997? Or at least that's what it says on my CD...
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i would do one of those, but i fear my age comes into order- i couldn't list any albums beyond 1988 :p if i think of enough, i'll begin a list ;)
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
Cloolsome and interesting list. Although I thought Deftones - Around The Fur came out in 1997? Or at least that's what it says on my CD...
I bought it in 1998, and it was the year I saw them at Glastonbury, considering I checked that Linkin Park's Hybrid Theory didn't chart until 2001, and is listed as 2000 in your list, I thought you could cut me some slack. ;)
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Hybrid Theory was released in October 2000 :)
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Funny, I bought it in January 2001 (at Trafford Centre, when I went to see Marilyn Manson in Manchester), and I also looked up (http://www.everyhit.com) the album chart position and it's the same, entered on Jan 2001.
Perhaps it was released stateside sooner.
Or I'm wrong. ;)
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Maybe it did enter the charts in 2001, but it was still released in 2000. It was released on 24th October in the US and the 30th October in the UK :)
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
I bought it in 1998, and it was the year I saw them at Glastonbury, considering I checked that Linkin Park's Hybrid Theory didn't chart until 2001, and is listed as 2000 in your list, I thought you could cut me some slack. ;)
As GM said, Hybrid Theory was released in 2000 ;) I got it in December 2000, I remember because I heard it on the listening point first. It also says 2000 on the back, just as 'Around The Fur' says 1997 on the back ;)
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Alrighty, does that mean I have to change my list?
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It's up to you, I was just pointing it out...
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Cool, thanks, I'm leaving Deftones where they are. I'm going with the year I bought it, and it's worthy of being up there.
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I never really got behind the idea of a "best album of the year." There's so many genres, with so many totally different standards, that there's really no way to compare them. It's like comparing apples and oranges. But I never got that particular cliche. I mean, oranges are clearly superior to apples.
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I have an allergy to oranges. If I eat one, drink its juice, or even touch them/smell them I am violently sick for days afterwards with nausea and flu-like symptoms. This makes oranges one of the single most powerful fruits in existance, though for the wrong reasons. I guess if you can't be famous, be infamous. Only nuts top oranges for potential calamity causing foodstuffs.
That said apples can be dangerous too. Their pips contain a cynaide compound which if eaten enough of could cause death. The same is true for other fruits too but I can't find the site I read this on now.
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After much deliberation, a drink of water and watching AOI2 today, I think I want to check out Rush.
So, who are they like and which are their most popular hits/songs (to give 'em test run).
If I like em, I may even buy their Greatest Hits (Retrospective I & II, right?)
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Rush are a bit like Yes. That's the only band I can think of to compare them to. They have some real good experimental stuff and awesome but overrated drumming & bass playing, but Geddy Lee's voice is really annoying.
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Damn, I'm way behind my plan to catch up on all good music since the 1900s. :(
*adds Yes to band list*
Damn my laziness, damn evrything!! :p
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The first Rush album I bought was "A Show Of Hands" in 1989. The live albums (especially "Different Stages" ) are a good way-in to Rush's music.
Once you get past Geddy's voice (which does take getting used to), and Neil's sometimes pretentious lyrics. They're a great band.
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Great band indeed. Funny mentioning Rush as I have just worked all the kinks out of "The Trees" on guitar this week and can now finally play it in it's entirety (with some liberties taken, sorry Alex). Also my supervisor at work hes been playing 2112 over and over again. One of my favourite bands of all time. Especially their pre "Moving Pictures" years.
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I love "The Trees"!
Also, if you're feeling extravegant, go buy the "Rush In Rio" DVD, it's awesome. All the albums up to "Moving Pictures" (Which contains AOI2 track "Tom Sawyer" ) are classics.
Post-"Moving Pictures", I really love some of their 80's albums (especially "Hold Your Fire" ), but they really got it back on 1989's "Presto" and 1992's "Roll The Bones".
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Yeah, "Roll the Bones" is their best post-"Moving Pictures" album. I remember when that came out and they toured to support it, there was like Rush-mania for a bit. Someone review a Rush album. I don't have any right now.
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The "Roll The Bones Tour" was when I saw them, supported by Primus. Awesome gig!
I'll review some later (maybe tomorrow), I've got every album bar Vapor Trails and the Rush In Rio CD.
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Hey Melll - yesterday I was looking at the gigs page in the paper, and Rush are selling tickets already :) Have you got yours yet?
Oh yeah, and Badly Drawn Boy appears to be performing at a town a few miles away from me in a few weeks time, it's a Joe Strummer memorial gig...
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*gasp*
Here are the dates (so far...):
May 26 Nashville, TN AmSouth Amphitheater
May 28 Charlotte, NC Verizon Wireless Amphitheater
May 29 Virginia Beach Verizon Wireless Amphitheater
May 31 Pittsburgh, PA Post Gazette Pavilion
June 2 Columbus, OH Germain Amphitheater
June 4 Indianapolis, IN Verizon Wireless Amphitheater
June 5 Chicago, IL Tweeter Center
June 7 Milwaukee, WI Marcus Amphitheater
June 8 Detroit, MI DTE Energy Center
June 10 Cleveland, OH Blossom Music Center
June 12 St. Louis, MO UMB Pavillion
June 13 Kansas City, MO UMB Pavillion
June 23 Dallas, TX Smirnoff Music Center
June 25 San Antonio, TX Verizon Wireless Amphitheater
June 26 Houston, TX The Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavillion
June 29 Denver, CO Red Rocks Amphitheater
June 30 Salt Lake City, UT USANA Amphitheater
July 2 Seattle, WA White River Amphitheatre
July 3 Portland, OR Clark County Amphitheater
July 6 Los Angeles, CA Hollywood Bowl
July 7 San Diego, CA Coors Amphitheatre
July 9 San Francisco, CA Shoreline Amphitheater
July 10 Concord, CA Chronicle Pavilion
July 12 Sacramento, CA Sleep Train Amphitheater
July 14 Irvine, CA Verizon Wireless Amphitheater
July 16 Phoenix, AZ Cricket Pavillion
July 17 Las Vegas, NV MGM Grand
July 29 W. Palm Beach, FL Sound Advice Amphitheatre
July 30 Tampa, FL Tampa Bay Amphitheatre
Aug. 1 Atlanta, GA Hi Fi Buys Amphitheatre
Aug. 3 Washington DC Nissan Pavilion
Aug. 4 Philadelphia, PA Tweeter Waterfront Center
Aug. 6 Hartford, CT Meadows Music Center
Aug. 7 Scranton, PA Ford Pavilion at Montage Mountain
Aug. 9 Saratoga, NY Saratoga Performing Arts Center
Aug. 11 Wantagh, NY Jones Beach Theater
Aug. 12 Boston, MA Tweeter Center
Aug. 14 Holmdel, NJ PNC Bank Arts Center
Aug. 15 Buffalo, NY Darien Lake
Aug. 21 Montreal, PQ Bell Centre
Aug. 22 Toronto, ON Molson Amphitheatre
Sep. 8 London, UK Wembley Arena
Sep. 11 Birmingham, UK NEC Arena
Sep. 12 Manchester, UK MEN Arena
Sep. 14 Glasgow, UK SECC
Must go, must go, must go.....
This should really go in the gig thread, but what the hey, a mate called to get me to go to see Duran Duran in Sheffield, in April. So it looks like I am going, finally!
Oh, and Badly Drawn Boy, Spiritualized, and (YES!) Blazing Squad are performing charity gigs at my local club, Fibbers in York.
Quite how they'll get all of Blazing Squad on the Fibz Stage, I have no idea.
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Screw Badly Drawn Boy... he thinks he's too good to come to Philly... who plays in Towson, Maryland? :hmpf: :( :cry:
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
Oh, and Badly Drawn Boy, Spiritualized, and (YES!) Blazing Squad are performing charity gigs at my local club, Fibbers in York.
Quite how they'll get all of Blazing Squad on the Fibz Stage, I have no idea.
Melll - It's not "Blazing", it's Blazin'. The missing 'g' makes them 'ard.
Oh dear. It's quite stupid, idiotic and sad that I knew that.
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Spiritualized are playing here too, but it is over 18's. Just because nobody else under 18 has heard of them here.
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OK, as promised (for Faze), here are three Rush Album reviews (I've picked one album from the classic era, one from the techno-rock era, and one from the resurgence in the 90's):
Rush - Moving Pictures (1981)
(http://members.lycos.co.uk/melllvar/rush_mp.jpg)
Tracklist:
1) Tom Sawyer
2) Red Barchetta
3) YYZ
4) Limelight
5) The Camera Eye
6) Witch Hunt (Part III Of "Fear" )
7) Vital Signs
Arguably Rush's best album, going back to Rush.com a large part of the fan-submitted reviews name this as their No.1. I'm not so sure (I can't name one - too hard).
So what does it have that makes is so great?
Well, the first four songs are amongst Rush's best ever (three of those four are still staples of Rush's live show to this day). The other, Red Barchetta, is Neil Peart at his narrative best lyrically, painting the picture of a Sunday drive in some future time - a hugely underrated Rush song, and one of my favourites.
Obviously, we have the Futurama connection with Tom Sawyer, but that's a no-brainer, classic Rush. What else is there? An eleven-minute epic (The Camera Eye) and part III of a three song trilogy (parts II and I will appear on subsequent albums Signals and Grace Under Pressure respectively - let it not be said that Rush don't do things differently). It's left to a nu-wave skank to close out this album, Vital Signs. No misses on this one at all. Classic.
8/10
Rush - Hold Your Fire (1987)
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Tracklist:
1) Force Ten
2) Time Stand Still
3) Open Secrets
4) Second Nature
5) Prime Mover
6) Lock And Key
7) Mission
8) Turn The Page
9) Tai Shan
10) High Water
Ah, the 80's. Not a good decade for the guitar.
Here it's buried in a keyboard/sequencer-heavy mix, but still a batch of great songs (a couple of misses, but we'll come to those). The biggest miracle of this era of Rush, is that they managed to take this sound out on the road, without the need to take on new members (both Geddy and Alex played dual-instruments, guitars and keyboards), a feat to showcase their incredible musical talent.
Highpoints: the opening three tracks are fantastic (especially the immense, Force Ten). Time Stand Still still remains a stand-out in Rush's history (insofar as it's still the only collaboration Rush have ever done with another artist, Aimee Mann.) Other highpoints being live mainstays (at the time) Turn The Page and Mission.
Lowpoints: HYF is not a great album for ballads, therefore Second Nature and Neil Peart's hymn to a Japanese mountain, Tai Shan are less than satisfactory.
It has to be said that this was the Rush era that I got into first, as I started listening to them when this was their latest studio album. Therefore I still have fond memories of Rush at this time, and I think that they've been judged fairly harshly for their 80's sound.
7/10
Rush - Roll The Bones (1991)
(http://members.lycos.co.uk/melllvar/rush_rtb.jpg)
Tracklist:
1) Dreamline
2) Bravado
3) Roll The Bones
4) Face Up
5) Where's My Thing? (Part IV, "Gangster Of Boats" Trilogy)
6) The Big Wheel
7) Heresy
8) Ghost Of A Chance
9) Neurotica
10) You Bet Your Life
Rush's return to form (ie: The return to being a rock band after the 80's waiver into techno-pop territory for a few albums) started with 1989's Presto, and continued with this album, two years later. Still one of my favourite Rush albums, and one which contains songs which are included in Rush's live show to this day (ie: the opening three tracks).
This also marks a return for the token instrumental (or "exercise in self-indulgence" as they call them) in Where's My Thing (the sub-title providing some obscure in-joke, as we've yet to see parts I-III of this so-called "trilogy" ).
Peart's lyrics are at their most clever (without being too pretentious, that wasn't until afterwards, in my opinion), but saves the best for standout track, the melodic, lyrical, Ghost Of A Chance, rather than being wordy and intense, he goes for the heartfelt:
I don't believe in destiny
Or the guiding hand of fate
I don't believe in forever
Or love as a mystical state
I don't believe in the stars or the planets
Or angels watching from above
But I believe there's a ghost of a chance
That we'll find someone to love
...and make it last.
Not bad for the drummer.
8/10
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Awesome reviews. I like Red Barchetta, too, and I thought everyone else had forgotten about that one.
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Not so much a review, more a pointer to some tunefulness (xposted to YakYak (http://www.yakyak.org):
Some years ago I got an album by top electro-popsters Spray. It was full of gorgeous lloveliness, and I listened to it for ages. I never really paid much attention to what the band were doing, I'd just assumed that they went on to metamorphose into The Cuban Boys.
Turns out I'd assumed very wrong.
They do have a couple of CDs out, but between these two links there's about an albums worth of tracks:
Amazon Artist Downloads (http://artist.amazon.com/spray)
Spray homepage downloads (http://www.spraynet.freeserve.co.uk/music.html)
Must have tracks are Run With Us 2004 (cover of the theme to The Raccoons) (http://www.drproductions.fsnet.co.uk/Spray%20-%20Run%20With%20Us.mp3), He Came With The Frame (http://www.ninthwaverecords.com/Spray%20-%20He%20Came%20With%20The%20Frame%20(Spacekats%20remix).mp3) and Child of the 80s (http://www.ninthwaverecords.com/Spray%20-%20Child%20Of%20The%2080s%20(Spacekats%20remix).mp3)
Mmm, llovely!
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Melll orignally posted:
Reviews of Rush albums
Definitely agree with the review of Moving Pictures. I've not heard the other two albums, but the impression I get from the other boards that I'm a member of is that Hold Your Fire is pretty underrated.
I got Rush- Live in Rio at Christmas and was very impressed, and definately up for seeing them live this year :cool:
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I just saw the Secret Machines "Sad and Lonely" video. Anybody know anything about this band? They sounded alright, but their drummer was absolutely awesome. I think it was Ben Massarella, but I ain't for sure.
He wasn't doing a lot of technical stuff, but he had obviously studied his John Bonham. He's the first drummer I've seen in a long time to do Bonham right. He was playing hard as hell, and had the balls to keep it right behind the beat, with real attitude. I was impressed.
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Originally posted by Lurrr:
Definitely agree with the review of Moving Pictures. I've not heard the other two albums, but the impression I get from the other boards that I'm a member of is that Hold Your Fire is pretty underrated.
I got Rush- Live in Rio at Christmas and was very impressed, and definately up for seeing them live this year :cool:
All three of those albums are great. I'd recommend at least trying to acquire a couple of tracks from each, before buying.
In other news, I was in ASDA and saw Rush In Rio DVD for £9.97. Boy, was I pissed!
That DVD rocks though!
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I'm listening to my old Metallica cd's. And Justice For All has very poor producing, esp. the drums.
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Originally posted by ZombieJesus:
I'm listening to my old Metallica cd's. And Justice For All has very poor producing, esp. the drums.
You win a prize if you can hear the bass on that album.
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Be thankful Lars Ulrich isn't using the tinny snare off the entirety of St Anger. Unless he is of course. I've never heard it, but the tinny snare was pretty horrid.
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TAMA made that snare especially to Lars' specifications and he used it for the first time on St. Anger. It sounds like he's playing garbage cans (in Stomp!)
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I just heard Throwdown's cover of Baby Got Back. Truly bizzare. It's another song to add to my list of completely fucked up covers.
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Maybe '..And Justice For All' has a lack of bass, but for me that's made up for with the riffing warmth of the other guitars. As for the drums; their production maybe weird, but I actually like them on that album more than any other Metallica album...
About Metallica's drum productions, I personally think:
First 3 albums - Not separated enough
Justice - weird production, but I like it, they're especially punchy and separated for 80's drums, and not too much symbol either with good kick
Black Album - Can those damn cymbals get any louder! and piercing! Way too much cymbal and the entire drum mix is too trebly for my liking
Load/ReLoad - Still quite a lot of cymbal, but a more comfortable amount with better kick and range in the drums, creating a better overall balance
St Anger - Yuk! Those friggin' coffee cans just have to go, the worst of the lot!...
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I've just discovered the wonders of Mr Scruff
Fish - one of the most bizarre records I've ever heard. :)
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
About Metallica's drum productions, I personally think:
First 3 albums - Not separated enough
Justice - weird production, but I like it, they're especially punchy and separated for 80's drums, and not too much symbol either with good kick
Black Album - Can those damn cymbals get any louder! and piercing! Way too much cymbal and the entire drum mix is too trebly for my liking
Load/ReLoad - Still quite a lot of cymbal, but a more comfortable amount with better kick and range in the drums, creating a better overall balance
St Anger - Yuk! Those friggin' coffee cans just have to go, the worst of the lot!...
With the early albums (finishing with Puppets) the drum production is far too muddy, however, that's more likely the product of the eighties trend of tuning down the snare.
Drum-wise, "One" is a standout.
"Black", being Bob Rock's first effort with the band, he pushed the EQ on the drums (there were mics everywhere in the room to capture Lars' drum sound), perhaps too far. To me, they sound very "processed".
If anything, this is where Load/Reload's production comes off better. IMO.
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Turbonegro - Apocalypse Dudes
1. The Age Of Pamparius
2. Selfdestructo Bust
3. Get It On
4. Rock Against Ass
5. Dont Say Motherfucker Motherfucker
6. Rendezvous With Anus
7. Zillion Dollar Sadist
8. Prince Of The Rodeo
9. Back To Dungeree High
10. Are You Ready (For Some Darkness)
11. Monkey On Your Back
12. Humiliation Street
13. Good Head
Welp, here it is. One of the best rock n' roll albums of the '90's. Bar none.
You can say what you want about 'em. If you've heard of Norway's Turbonegro, you'll know they've had a checkered past that makes Axl Rose look like Pat Boone and a shock value that makes Marilyn Manson look like Matchbox 20.
This is the real deal folks.
Turbonegro's three album back catalogue is a mishmash of great tunes that really had no focus or direction. It was the entrance of vocalist Hank Von Helvete on their previous album to "Apocalypse", the reviled and hailed, "Ass Cobra" that kicked TRBNGR in the direction that they have taken.
That direction being unrelenting over the top, glam homocore turned up to 11.
Ass Cobra was an offensive purile, buttraping speedpunk extravaganza that propelled Turbonegro to infamy.
They couldn't have picked a "touchier" subject to shock the docile, safetypunk listening public into two so widley opposed camps.
Homoerotic imagery and making fun of other peoples suffering was a bit much for the "Rancid/NOFX" crowd to handle. So they were never really promoted in N. America.
They were and still rightly are legends in Europe.
A visionary named Dave Grohl who at the time drummed for a well known hard rock act named "Queens of the Stone Age" picked Turbonegro to tour with them on their successful 2003 "Songs For The Deaf" tour. Thus exposing (literally) Turbonegro to a much wider audience. However, much like Che Guevera's misguided and illfated attempts to introduce Communism to S. America in the 60's...it didn't quite take.
But I digress.
Apocalypse Dudes is a hard rock album of the very highest order, and played with skill and savvy befitting a classic.
Drawing from influences like The Dead Boys, Mototrhead, NY Dolls, KISS and a plethora of other hard rock acts both retro and contemporary pepper the albums 13 tracks. but make no mistake, this is pure slab of Scandinavian Hard Rock.
They have toned down the Homoerotic imagery a tad since "Ass Cobra" but just a tad.
They also have added an excellent lead guitarist (Euroboy) that captures the power and focus that the now definitive TRBNGR sound is based upon.
Singer Hank Von Helvete went insane during the "Apocalypse" tour and was committed to a metal hospital after a show in Milan, Italy in 1998. The band broke up for a few years and were never expected to re-form. A movie and a tribute album were made in their honour, but in 2002 Hank had put "most" of his demons to rest and the "Denim Demons" reformed much to everyones dismay and released a great comeback album called "Scandinavian Leather" It was on the "Leather" tour with "QOTSA" that pretty much sealed their fate as "Not quite ready for N. America".
Apocalypse Dudes is almost universally hailed as one of the best examples of Nothern European hard rock out there.
Harder hitiing than Gluecifer and more modern that the Hellacopters. These guys make the Hives appear as contrived and out of touch as Abba is today.
Even with distrobution by Epitaph Records North Amerca refuses to open their minds and their ears.
9/10
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"Apocalypse Dudes" is the best Turbonegro album, but I still prefer the Hellacopters. Less punk, more rock. Lots more.
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Might I suggest some Arch Enemy? Nothing like crazy Swedish metal with a female German singer who kicks just as much ass as any guy. She's also wicked hot.
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Woo! Great review, Spice Weasel. I couldn't agree more, Turbonegro rock!
Even though I think "Scandinavian Leather" was rather weak...
Too bad they're not called Türbonegrö, then they'ld be perfect... ;)
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
Might I suggest some Arch Enemy? Nothing like crazy Swedish metal with a female German singer who kicks just as much ass as any guy. She's also wicked hot.
I don't mind them, I heard "Ravenous" on the radio and it wasn't till a while later I found out it was a chickie screaming her lungs out....now that's cool :D
She realy does sound like a guy though....
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Originally posted by Gleno:
I don't mind them, I heard "Ravenous" on the radio and it wasn't till a while later I found out it was a chickie screaming her lungs out....now that's cool :D
She realy does sound like a guy though....
They play Arch Enemy on the radio? Oh yeah, you live in Australia. The radio's got to be a lot better there.
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Well it was on a weekly metal show that I try to catch once in a while....it paid off that week :D
That's also where I first heard A Perfect Circle....
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Yeah, but that's got Maynard from Tool, so they're already a mainstream band anyway.
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Arch Enemy are awesome. I've seen em live, they're insane.
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Originally posted by Squeezit:
I heard St. Anger yesterday--and I thought it sounded like a CD full of all the weak tracks on a Godsmack album. But--maybe it won't sound like that after listening to it more.
BTW--anyone here an Alice in Chains fan? If so--ever heard the Mad Season CD?
st anger is shocking, i like godsmack although they are soft also i like that alice in chains song 'rooster'
any psychopathic records fans in here?
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
Yeah, but that's got Maynard from Tool, so they're already a mainstream band anyway.
So what? Once you got Maynard you're an awesome band; he's one of the most talented vocalists out there. Mainstream shouldn't make a difference- it's the band that counts :p
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Originally posted by SlaytanicMaggot:
Arch Enemy are awesome. I've seen em live, they're insane.
They're playing on the first day of the New England Hardcore/Metal Fest(April 30th) along with other notables like Burnt By The Sun(seem them before too, they rock live), Ed Gein, and Soilent Green. It starts at 2:30 and I live a good deal away from Worcester, MA(far enough where I wouldn't get there on time if I left straight from school's end), but it should be worth it, if I go.
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Nothing is worth going to Worcester, MA.
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A mate bought a copy of Tool's "Lateralus" (four quid from a charity shop), but hated it and gave it to me. I'd had Tool on my list for ages but never got around to getting any (shocking, I know), however, this album is fantastic and I can't stop listening to it.
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Anyone here like Danzig? I've recently discovered them, and rather like their 'Satans Child' album, what I've heard of it anyway...
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I prefer old Misfits.
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Well, as you can see in the "what I bought" thread, I have new CDs, so I'll review here:
A Life Once Lost - The Fourth Plague: Flies
This pleasently surprised me. It's got only five songs, but it's better than I thought it would be. Lots of technicality with this band, much more than I expected.
Burnt By The Sun - The Perfect Is The Enemy Of The Good
I have this one in my player now. There's a lot of filler on it(the last track is 43 minutes of indechiperable noise), but nonetheless, it is an improvement. It is different from their older stuff, mainly with more interesting riffs. However, I am pissed that they recycled a riff from one of their old CDs.
XfilesX - Excrutiation
I was a little disappointed by the length(22 songs in 15 minutes), but the music's the same hard hitting stuff they've been churning out all along, still great. The lyrics are very hard hitting and the CD booklet smells unlike any CD booklet I've smelled before(in a good way). However, I wish they'd done a better job with the recording. The guitar sounds like something from a video game.
Arch Enemy - Wages of Sin
I was pleasently surprised by this as well as there was a bonus CD full of rare and unreleased songs. The musicianship is great, and it's well recorded. The songs are very powerful. The bonus disk has all songs with their old singer, including Iron Maiden and Judas Priest covers. Not bad.
Toxic Narcotic - Live in LA(DVD)
Having seen this band live twice before, this DVD definetely did a great job of capturing the high energy of one of their shows. It was apparently not remastered at all, and the quality is astoundingly good for its standards. However, there is one part where instead of filming the band, they filmed this guy's ridiculous hair. Why?
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I just downloaded "Psyche Rock" by Pierre Henry....for those who don't know it's the song that the Futurama theme was based on....(Thanks to Teral for the info)
Straight away I recognised the similarities between the two and it's a very cool song....it has the bells and everything heh :p
Download it if you can....!
....also I've recently bought the new Rammstein dvd, review to come when I can be bothered and if at least one person says they are interested.... :hmpf:
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Why doesnt Loki Post anymore. Did he join the Army or what?
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Originally posted by Gleno:
I just downloaded "Psyche Rock" by Pierre Henry....for those who don't know it's the song that the Futurama theme was based on....(Thanks to Teral for the info)
Straight away I recognised the similarities between the two and it's a very cool song....it has the bells and everything heh :p
Download it if you can....!
Everytime I play that, and my friend is in the room, he asks if its the Futurama theme. Even after constantly telling him "no, it's what it was based on", he still asks EVERY time. Some people just don't get it... :nono:
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Some people are just idiots.... :)
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I know there are quite a few Five Iron Frenzy fans here on PEEL, and I was wondering if anyone would like to give me their personal preferences from the FIF catalogue? See, they're one of the few Ska-esque bands I can stand, and i'd quite like to use them to educate some foolish pop-punk waster friends of mine how the style can be done correctly. "Kamikaze" impressed me greatly. Anything else to recommend?
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You want to see ska done right, check out a Japanese band called "Snail Ramp."
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
A mate bought a copy of Tool's "Lateralus" (four quid from a charity shop), but hated it and gave it to me. I'd had Tool on my list for ages but never got around to getting any (shocking, I know), however, this album is fantastic and I can't stop listening to it.
Hooray, another Tool junkie! And if you think Lateralus is fantastic, I suggest you try Aenema :D
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there's actually a few remixes of that Psyche Rock song floating around.
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Remember Shakti - The Believer
Veteran jazz guitar virtuoso John McLaughlin has a long standing and deep affinity with Indian music. looking at his early collaberations with the Mahavishnu Orchestra and the original Shakti projects from the '70's one can conclude that he pioneered "World Music" and fused genres decades before it became trendy to throw some Tabla in with your break-beats.
Not to bore y'all to death with minute examinations of the mechanics of modal improvisation. I should, however recommend everone leaf through the book "The lydian chromatic method of tonal orginization" to get a rudimentary grip on the musical framework of this album.
But that would be sheer bullshittery :evillaugh:
There are four performers on this live album. Two hand drummers and two stringed instruments.
McLaughlin plays guitar. A good old Gibson ES-335, while Mr. Shrinivas plays the eastern mandolin, a six individual stringed instrument, not like the eight stringed four course mandolin we are familiar with in N. America. The two stringed instruments feed off of one another with amazing ease and harmony. whlie the incredible drumming of long time Shakti member Zakir Hussain (Tablas) and Selvaganish (Clay pot and cymbals) swirl about while building a foundation of insane rhythm that ebbs and flows from slow and metered to so fast and staccato, that it is almost inconcievable how many beats a human being can fit into a measure.
Oh, yeah. The music.
This is shredding par excellance. Makes Vai and Malmsteen look like the bloated, self indulgant show ponies that they are.
It definately has jazz trappings with the chorused electric guitar. The mandolin fits so well with this structure and at times the two mesh together so tightly they are inseperable.
The rhythms are pure Indian Carnatic style. That means fast and insanely complex. Each member gets ample solo time but it all falls back into the program that is fairly strict in its boudaries for such chaotic music.
It ranges from soothing passages that are almost dreamy, to raging inferos of sound that threaten to self destruct.
There are just six songs but the album clocks in at over 77 minutes. All but one of the numbers were written by McLaughlin, the one tune not written by him is my personal favourite, "Maya".
Not to take anythig away from the rest, just the mandolin solo in Maya owns.
This album can be aptly described from the lyrics of a tune called Cygnus X-1 off of Rush's fine album, "A Farewell to Kings":
"Spinning, whirling still descending, like a spiral sea unending"
"Sound and fury fill my heart, every nerve is torn apart"
For those of you who are used to and content with, having your music fed to you safely and predictably in 3 minute pills; sorry for wasting your time. For those who may want to hear something challenging, unique and in this boy's opinion absolutely essential. Check out some Shakti.
Unrateable
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10 years of one of the greatest albums of all time. (http://www.beck.com/mellowgold/)
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I love this song form Eamon – F**k it I don’t you back. Not because some of the words are explicit, I love it because it is beautifully ballad.
There another version to this song. It sort of a Ex girlfriend taking type of song. The girl is called Frankee and the song is called F**k you right back. She is not Eamon ex girlfriend and that a fact. I really love those two songs so much but I really don’t think that we need two versions of the song.
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ÉaMon- I choose YOU!! What is this...?
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what do you mean?
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Have they made an offensive break-up PokéMon song, or what?
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Fear Factory - Obsolete
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1998
My getting of Fear Factory's new album; 'Archetype' today has inspired me to write a short review of my fave album of theirs, Obsolete.
This was the first Fear Factory album I bought, I got it when it came out, after having heard some of their music on the Carmageddon soundtrack and loving it. It crashes in with 'Shock', twisting the world upside-down. I love the vocal hardness, then soft melody changes. 'Edgecrusher' has a really clool vocal sample as an intro, and then the song is an assault, and I just love the funky bass line.
More cloolsome songs follow, very heavy and hard, and with sprinklings of synth's in the background to enhance the chaotic atmosphere. Then when we get to 'Descent', things calm down a bit and it's more laid back, but still has that hard element and guitar crunch. then the sci-fi war themed brutal attacks continue, 'Freedom or Fire' has such an awesome opening, and riff. And the epic 'Resurrection' comes second to last, followed by the fellow and moving 'Timelessness'.
I like to call Fear Factory's genre "Terminator Metal", because that's what it sounds like, and the sci-fi theme fits. Fear Factory is some of the heaviest and hardest metal I’ve ever heard, especially their new album Archetype, yet they still have strong melodic parts to their songs to contrast and make things interesting and cloolsome. The drumming is pretty amazing too. Also, this album is a concept album, and each song follows a story, it’s really clool actually.
This is my fave Fear Factory album, and if you like really heavy stuff, and don't mind class screaming vocals mixed with melodic parts too, then try it out...
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Originally posted by Juliet:
There another version to this song. It sort of a Ex girlfriend taking type of song. The girl is called Frankee and the song is called F**k you right back. She is not Eamon ex girlfriend and that a fact. I really love those two songs so much but I really don’t think that we need two versions of the song.
I don't think we even need one, personally. It's highly irritating, unoriginal and makes blatant use of cursing as a selling point (rather than slipping it in naturally). And I betcha the whole Frankee thing is a publicity stunt.
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Staind (http://www.staind.com/) is my favorite band.
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Lately I've found myself to be into all this 50s rock like Chuck Berry since my history teacher played some in class. I got some songs by him on my computer, and it looks very awkward sandwiched between Cephalic Carnage and Circle Jerks.
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Good review of Obsolete, Otis. It's not their best album but there is some cool stuff on there. My favs are Shock, Securitron 2000 (Police State) and the title track.
I think the new album, Archetype, is the best thing I've heard so far this year.
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Thanx, and yeah I've had more time to listen to their new album now, and it kicks so much ass! 'Slave Labour', 'Act of God', and 'Drones' are all faves of mine, but the whole album never misses a beat...
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...Lampers, I am astounded... congrats. Chuck Berry is teh quality rock n' roll.
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It's late, but I have recently acquired a legitimate copy of "Permission to Land" by The Darkness, rather than my burnt copy.
They're funny, funny bastards, I enjoy their glam rock personas and, on an unrelated note, enjoy their music.
'I believe in a thing called love' has been really, really overplayed in the past couple of months (goddamn commercial radio so slow on the uptake) so 'Friday Night' has now become my favourite song on the album.
My biggest regret is not going to the Big Day Out and having the opportunity to see them- they'd probably be awesome on stage.
Anyhoo, the album = awesome, to the max.
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The Darkeness have a few other good songs that came out on the singles that people might be interested in:
Bareback - my favourite one, instrumental only but rockin'.
Makin' Out
Physical Sex
Best Of Me
How Dare You Call This Love.
Edit: Oh and the Xmas single, but everyone's heard that eleventy million times.
All good! <IMG SRC="http://peel.gotfuturama.com/ubb/smile.gif">
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Edit: Oh and the Xmas single, but everyone's heard that eleventy million times.
actually, I never heard it properly all the way through. I guess that shows just how out of touch with the real world I am.
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After constant lobbying, praise and recommendation (mostly by Melll ;) ) I got a hold of The Real Thing by Faith No More and I'm almost finished listening to it as I type.
A few things I noticed:
One of the singers sounds like that other singer dude from the Scissor Sisters.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I can hear a bit/lot of Guns N Roses, AC/DC and Iron Maiden their songs? And maybe even some Metallica.
They can't get much better influences than that. *head bangs*
And one of the songs even had sort of Hip Hop style lyrics to it, but it sounded good anyway. :)
Having a lok at play.com's music section, it seems this album is missing a few of their Best Of songs so their stuff can only get better.
Top notch rock. :)
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I've noticed people are starting to review existing music in the "albums you're looking forward to" thread, so I thought I'd bump this one.
I just got a hold of the Hellacopters' Cream of the Crap volume 2. I won't give a lengthy review because I already reviewed a Hellacopters album, but suffice to say it rocks. If you're not listening to the Hellacopters, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Also, I frickin' hate Modest Mouse. My friends play all their old albums a thousand times a day, and it's the tinniest, most repetitive, most annoying sounding crap I've ever heard. But their new album, which I'm only hearing about half a thousand times a day, is damn good. There's a couple songs that still sound whiney and repetitive, but most of the music is actually instrumentally thick and really clever experimentally, and the guy's voice seems to have mellowed. And once they don't sound annoying, you really notice their strengths, like lyrics.
When they got a major label deal I thought I was going to die, having to hear them in public places on the radio and whatnot. But it's not so bad.
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Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band - Trout Mask Replica (1969)
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In some ways, this album can be reviewed just like any ordinary album. It has a partially coherent theme, a fairly normal lineup of instruments, lyrics, vocals, all the things albums normally have. But at the same time, the album is so obviously a complete absurdist concept work that it seems ridiculous to put it alongside any other album. Trout Mask Replica is well known for its bizzare noises and absolutely impenetrable lyrics; psychedelic, beat, imagist, surrealist, often used simply for the meaning conveyed by the sound, and often supplemented by odd phrasing or repetition. "Inspect, in speckled, speckled, speck...led speculation." Lyrically, though, the album hides a great deal of '60s political pessimism, sexual innuendo, environmentalism, and nostalgia for Americana under the absurdity. It's not quite as inaccessible as casual fans imagine.
Still, absurdity is the obvious bread and butter of Trout Mask Replica. It was produced (minimally) by Frank Zappa, after all. To go with the concept, the Captain changed the names of his band members to Zoot Horn Rollo, Antennae Jimmy Semens, the Mascara Snake, Rockette Morton, and Drumbo, who dropped out of the band. It's made the album into one of those things that cool people like, so you'd better pretend to get it if you want any respect. After all the industry acclaim it's received, only a narrow-minded square would find any flaw in it. That being said, it's difficult to listen to not just because of its complexity, but because a lot of it sounds like crap.
The music is so sloppy and a-rhythmic that it sounds almost entirely improvised, and this impression is reinforced by the numerous interludes of random behind-the-scenes conversation and a number of intentionally flubbed lines in the vocals. In fact, 8 of the songs on the album were recorded during the original 8 hour session in which all 28 were written. The rest were also recorded on one day, but that day followed eight months of constant practice, during which time the band members were locked into the Captain's house and not allowed to leave. Listening to the album can become an exercise in trying to decide how much of the casual, improvised feel was a result of the notoriously stringent practice regimen. On the a capella songs like "Orange Claw Hammer" and "The Dust Blows Forward 'N The Dust Blows Back," which were recorded extemporaneously during the initial "field recordings" at the house, the pause button on the tape recorder clicks audibly between every line, as the Captain thought up the next one.
Despite the absurdly broad range of different styles and sounds over the 28 songs on the album, the bass and guitar have a remarkably consistent, dissonant, angular, twangy sound. It's not very pleasant to listen to at first, but then neither is the Captain's voice. The theme of the album is largely hobo music, and part of the feel obviously comes from an attempt to evoke the gravelly, impromptu songs and improvised instruments of some hobo blues concert in a boxcar or under a bridge somewhere in American folklore. So it's not very uplifting. The music evokes the old school, one chord blues much more than the modern, urban blues in much of the Captain's other work.
But the music is also heavily influenced by free jazz, especially saxophonists like John Coltrane. Particularly on instrumental tracks like "Hair Pie," the Captain's bass clarinet or saxophone (of which he would sometimes play two simultaneously) hoots and squawks and stutters like a wounded animal, and the rhythms sway and come and go and change dizzyingly. Most of the instruments repeat a line, then move on to another, never returning to something they've done before. Most of the time the band members sound as if they're all playing different songs. No wonder it took so much practice. One of the best songs on the album, "Pachuco Cadaver," is best known for the opening line, "A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast 'n' bulbous, got me?" But it's an amazingly complex song musically. the intro has guitar and drums playing 4/4 while the bass plays a line in 6/8 that is completely out of sync with the rest of the band. Then the verse is in 6/4, but the drums eventually switch to 6/8.
None of these musical and lyrical references and ideas are apparent on the first listening, however. What is clear from the outset is that the Captain has at least attempted to make an album that is radically free from the existing constraints of the industry. In fact, he never repeated the accomplishment of Trout Mask Replica largely because of pressure from his label to make more "normal" albums. That's one of the reasons this album stands so large in the landscape of '60s rock.
One of the best things ever is the interlude on this album at the beginning of "Pena" where the Captain is trying to get the Mascara Snake to get his lines right.
"Bulbous, also tapered!"
"Yeah, but you've gotta wait until I say, 'Also, a tin... teardrop.'"
"...Christ."
The bemused anguish in his voice on this last line just says it all.
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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
After constant lobbying, praise and recommendation (mostly by Melll ;) ) I got a hold of The Real Thing by Faith No More and I'm almost finished listening to it as I type.
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Top notch rock. :)
I'd recommend all of FNM's work almost above any other band, except the first two albums (both with Chuck Mosley, instead of Mike Patton - although 2nd album, "Introduce Youself" is notable for inclusion of the awesome "The Crab Song" ). Praise on "The Real Thing" goes to Patton for writing the lyrics in two weeks (after all the music was written by the rest of the band), and for totally blowing everyone away with his vocals.
The breakout song, "Epic" has lost all it's original meaning for me, as it was played at my best friends funeral.
However, FNM did a total right-turn on the next album, "Angel Dust". I know that MelBee and I (Mel is another huge FNM fan) often disagree on which is FNM's best album (Mel says "The Real Thing", I say "Angel Dust" ) - AD is just so ugly and dark, it's almost beautiful.
Both Chino Moreno and Jonathan Davis both say that major inspiration for their respective bands came from listening to "Angel Dust".
Endorsement, indeed.
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Canned Eggs, thank you for this review. Now I have at least a dim idea of what I have to expect when somebody's talking about Captain Beefheart. And I have to say that it sounds even better.
I actually might get this album faster than I thought - if Amazon can't get the Drive Like Jehu album I ordered 2 months ago shipped to me within a week, I'll change the order to the Captain Beefheart record. It's cheaper too...
In the meantime: The CDs I ordered arrived. Stay tuned for reviews of: The Cancer Conspiracy - The Audio Medium, Mohinder - Everything (Discography) and maybe Shellac - 1000 Hurts.
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Something different from me today- a review of my band by a friend of mine. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/leicester/music/2004/05/evil_dick_and_the_band_members_review.shtml) It's quite amusing as she's more concerned with the bass playing than anything else (*ahem*...) but it's nice to read a postive and informative review of the band for once (rather than, 'they were f*ckin weird!')
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I listened to the Captain Beefheart a couple times to write the review, and now I can't stop. It really takes over your mind.
And yeah, "The Real Thing" and "Angel Dust" are FNM's best albums, even though they were also the band's commercial peak. That doesn't usually happen. I might like "The Real Thing" better because, while I do like the sort of grotesque darkness of "Angel Dust," I feel "The Real Thing" is able to plumb those depths just as well, but it shows a lot more variety, so it goes in other directions, too. It really sounded new and experimental when it came out, and grabbed me right away. It's one of the landmark albums of the period. "Angel Dust" less so.
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I must admit that "Underwater Love" is the best song written about drowning your girlfriend.
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They had a pretty good death metal song on there too.
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Surprise! You're Dead! Yeah, excellent, lyrically too!
The pain, the torture, the torment, profanity.
Nausea, suffering, perversion, calamity.
YOU! Can't get away!
I must admit that it's a close call between the two albums, but, for me, Angel Dust just shades it.
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HOLY FUCK!!! just heard the new Prodigy single "Girls" for the first time, after 7 years waiting, speechless!!!
10/10
:D :D :D :D :D :D
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Me too! Awesome, awesome track! One of the best Prodigy ones to date! Incredible stuff, cant wait to hear more :D
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The new Kerrang music station launched yesterday here in the UK. I think its pretty cool, although they have to get a few more songs to add to their repitoire. But hey, it's new, and I think it has a bright future. Anyone else heard it?
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I've just downloaded it and listened to it. Can't say I'm as impressed, although given that I have no real expectations of the Prodigy, I'm not disappointed either. But it's not that good, it's kind of like a more intricate Chemical Brothers track, circa "Hey Boy Hey Girl".
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It kicks Chemical Brothers ass in my opinion, the bass line is just mind blowing! Such a hard and funky track, and lush acid synth line. I love the way the vocals are pushed back into the mix, so the hard hard music has room to breathe, but the vocals really work too and add to the track. Refreshing that it's not a Keith or Maxim track. The old skool hip hop and Dirthchamber esque beats at the beginning caught my attention straight away, pricks my ears up. Then the storming bass, which you may notice comes in about a second earlier than the timing would normally stick to, for full power and effect out of nowhere...
The middle section is beats crazy, the amount or force and power of that wall of hard beats, and then the absolute intensity of the whole middle section, and introduction of more cloolsome high end synth sounds, acidy too, and then a second long sample back to the beginning, then a second long sample of the bass line, then the actual bassline again, then straight into the acid synth lead, pure genius! I love the ending too, the way it slowly melds down the sound scape, gradually, until we get into this awesome sound similar to a war plane coming over...
Can't wait to hear 'Memphis Bells', hopefully not too long as it's on the b-side to the sampler with Girls on it. 'Memphis Bells' will also follow 'Girls' on the album, hense the war plane sound at the end of girls, can't wait to hear how it melds on :D...
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I've given it a few more listens, thinking it might be a grower, but it's not doing it for me. It's to the Prodigy what "Afrika" was to The Chemical Brothers: a big club hit but without enough hooks, warmth or character to stand up by itself. If only they'd used that little organ hook more instead of that lifeless disco squeak. :(
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Maaan I find that hard to believe, but not everyone's gonna like it. I've heard it 60+ times now, I loved it from the first listen, but it's grown on me even more in that time. It's one of my fave Prodigy trax, and that's saying something! I've now also heard some of 'Memphis Bells', only 45 seconds so far. It's so stripped down, and has an oriental dark feel, very different from 'Girls', infact totally different to anyhing Prodigy have ever done before. I can't wait to hear the full track, I'm loving what I've heard...
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(http://jschmetz.bei.t-online.de/peel/stuff/mohinder.jpg)
Mohinder - Everything
Released: 2000
Label: Gold Standard Laboratories
Total playtime: 66:20
Tracklist:
1. To Satisfy
2. Run
3. Give
4. Inhuman Nature
5. Numb
6. Of Sound Mind
7. 101
8. Number One
9. Imbalance
10. Itch
11. Expiration
12. Beautiful
13. Static Cult
14. Mission
15. Acceptance
16. Division
17. One Warrior
18. Alien
19. - 21. Live Recording
Who the fuck are Mohinder? Mohinder are originally from Cupertino and along with fellow bands such as Heroin or Antioch Arrow, they formed the chaotic hardcore coming from California in the early 90s. However, while other bands such as Antioch Arrow became somewhat famous (within the scene at least), Mohinder somehow never really were honored properly. This might be due to the fact that they only existed briefly between 1993 and 1994. However, it's still a damn shame, because especially their later stuff is pretty fast and chaotic and was something that definitely not every band was playing at that point.
"Everything" is Mohinder's discography, and it contains every song they've relased plus some live recordings, which explains the the length of the record (the average song is hardly longer than 1:40).
The first 8 songs are often quite fast and dynamic hardcore songs, but they're not really special, apart from the fact that they're often feedback-laden (of 1:40 of a song, 30 or more seconds can actually just be random feedback noise) and several songs just get muted in very weird ways (the bass disappears, the whole thing sounds as if it's played at half the volume through a 30s radio or whatever), making the listening experience interesting, since you will ask yourself if your headphones have just died.
However, starting at song 9, the whole thing becomes chaotic and spastic and a lot faster. The feedbacks, the random noise and the weird recording-effects stay, however. And this is where it becomes interesting. Prime examples of these chaotic outbursts are songs such as "Static Cult" or the epic "Expiration", which is actually almost 3 minutes.
And considering the recording quality of fellow bands, Mohinder sound pretty good, even if their sound is not that great if compared to many modern hard- and grindcore-bands.
The recording quality of the live shows is nothing to get excited about, but, especially if played at proper volume (that means: loud), it shows just how intense Mohinder's live shows probably were.
This record is certainly an interesting listening experience, especially considering the time it's from. However, if you are not into noisy, chaotic hardcore, you won't like this record a lot.
7/10
"Static Cult" can be downloaded here (http://www.epitonic.com/artists/mohinder.html).
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After a few mentions from eggs and Hiller, and a decent postition of the ever-growing Audioscrobbler website, I gave Dropkick Murphys a chance and downloaded two of their songs, Amazing Grace (to see what kind of covers they do) and Walk Away (it being no. 1 on Audioscrobbler)
I would have gotten more but my 56k is really uncooperative this time of night. :hmpf:
Shit, I've a hell of a lot of music to catch up on, I'm interested in the Dropkick Murphys, Mars Volta, A Perfect Circle and The Faces - Five Guys Walk Into a Bar coming out soon, looks like my 1st paycheck from work won't last long. :(
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The Dropkick Murphys' old stuff is their best stuff. "Fightstarter Karaoke" is one of my favourite songs by them. "The Gauntlet" was a big single in the Boston area a couple years ago. They do a lot of crappy traditionals, too, like Finnegan's Wake and Rocky Road to Dublin.
The Mars Volta are cool.
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I got Finnegans Wake, Irish Drinking Song and The Spicy McHaggis Jig.
I get the feeling they're not an entirely serious band... :laff:
Songs are a bit short too, but who cares, they're funny!
It's like if Greenday was mutated with The Dubliners. :D
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I 've got those same three songs, as well as classic versions by var. artists.
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Pretty much heard most of 'Memphis Bells' by Prodigy today, and it's so cloolsome! It's even more different to Prodigy's usual stuff than Girls, and is more refreshing. As far as beats and hardness go, it's not very easy to tell it's even a Prodigy track, but the mastery on the synths and bassline give it away as a Prodigy track. The title 'Memphis Bells' is quite literal here, because one of the main parts aspects of the track is loads of off-key bells, then there's some oriental synth, and a warm, punchy, tight bassline...
This isn't a hard track, but it seems harder the more you listen to it. Also this version of the track is an instrumental, the album version will contain some vocals though. The real climax of this track is when a new synth kicks in about halfway into the track, it's just amazing, the sound and the dark atmosphere it evokes. Maybe the beats aren't that hard, but beats are generally easier to do than several layers of different synths anyway, this is a quality track. I love it, something totally new and different from usual Prodigy, and it gets stuck in your head a lot more than Girls too. As much as I love 'Girls', I'm kinda liking this track even more, I'm a sucker for silky synth lines, the kind Liam somehow manages to create. After a slight lack of these on 'The Fat Of The Land', it's very nice to hear the synths and electronic direction the new albums taking, more similar to 'Jilted Generation', that being my fave album of theirs so far...
Another 10/10
What did you expect?... ;)
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Any rock fans have any Faces (as in, Rod Stewart and the...) albums?
I heard the Best Of one is just mostly Rod on his own, and the 4 CD box set (out on the 28th) is the one to go for...
It'll mean paying €14.49 instead of €52.99!
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I'm sure glad I never bought KoRn - Take A Look In The Mirror. I listend to my brothers friends minidisc of it, and it's pretty poor and uninspired. A load of fake angry loud music without any real soul or purpose (other than to make money). They really should have taken longer than just over a year to make this, because the lack of time and effort really shows. It comes off as a quick cheap cash-in. 'Did My Time', the track I already knew anyway, is probabaly my fave, pity about the whiney vocals which have become part of KoRn's sound after leaving the 90's though. The follow on from 'Counting' is not too bad either, if not a bit too formulatic. It's alright though, although I much prefer the original 'Counting' from 'Issues'. 'Right Now' doesn't really deserve to be a single, it's memorable, but you kinda end up wishing it wasn't.
This sounds, to some extent, like they're trying to re-create the sound of their piant peeling debut, however failing miseraby. Also, there's a real lack of experimentation, and synths on this album too, which in part helps draw this conclusion. I love KoRns synths and sounds, their experimenation, but they're just as good without too, like on their debut, but that had real soul and purpose, and real hate and energy. This doesn't really have anything, kinda sad really. 'Untouchables' marked a drastic change in their sound, but it was still a strong and good album, even though it's not their best. I can see the prgression from that sound, but it's pregressed backwards rather than fowards. It's done what's already been done, but much worse. Let's hope they make another good album, and this isn't the beginning of the end...
3/10
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Maybe Jonathan Davis is too happy now? You just can't fake that kind of angst.
All I have is my music, my legions of fans, my millions of dollars, and my youth. Woohoo! ;)
I think that the new album was a snap reaction after the relative failure of Untouchables, they should've continued with the progrssion in sound, as Otis said, as they were kinda gonig somewhere with it.
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Oh yeah, going back and reading the initial pages of this thread, we should use this to post mp3s. Here's one for you. (http://www.musicianmp3.com/stream1.cfm?id=2274&Mode=New&CFID=82614&CFTOKEN=85616778)
Here's another (http://mms://shop.relapse.com/relapse_media/audio/Disrupt%20-%20Unrest.mp3)
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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
...rock fans...Rod Stewart...
Heh. You know how ridiculous that sounds, right? The pinnacle of Rod Stewart's career was when the Pogues covered "Maggie May."
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I just round to relistening to an album and realising that it is still great.
Faith no more: Angel Dust
Why did i stop listening to this album? you know I really do not know.
This album definitly ranks amoung my all time favourite albums. This album has some fantastic song on it. Kicking in in with the great "Land of sunshine" shortly followed by "Midlife crisis" which is so weirdly wonderful.mListening to it now it does make me wonder in Marylyn Mandison ripped off the chorus of "Be agressive" with it's whole cheerleader style.
I absolutly ove the organ at the end of "Jizzlobber" and the instumental in "Midnight Cowboy".
The album is ended with a cover of Lineol Richie's (spelling?) "Easy". This is definitly one of the better covers I have heard.
Basically listen to this album. You will not regret it.
Now let me ask you. Do you often sing and wistle just for fun?
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Spiff, I just noticed the mp3 you posted for Mohinder which was apparently a couple weeks back.
Keep posting more stuff like that! It's good.
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Meh, I'm bored. Here's a couple of CD's a bought recently:
Dream Theater- Train of Thought
I now have all of DT's studio albums, and this, their latest one, is by far the heaviest. But not like what you'd expect. They are still as complex and breathtakingly skilled as usual, but they seemed to have told the keyboards to take a break and handed the bassist a distortion pedal. There were times I thought this could be Korn, but then I've only listened to about two of their songs.
Anyway, the songs are all good, but don't really stand out much. 'Honor Thy Father' is by far the best song on the album, probably followed by 'Endless Sacrifice', but while they are good listening, the feeling to me is that DT aren't going to be making another masterpiece any time soon. Or maybe they're just too metal for me right now. I dunno. Either way, I give this a B because, even if it's heavier DT still know how to make a decent song.
The Flower Kings- Garden of Dreams
The first thing you need to know about the Garden of Dreams: The title track is 60 minutes long. The second thing we need to know: This album is two discs long. The third thing: The Flower Kings play a kind of neo-prog crossed with jazz, which is pretty much a love-it or hate-it kind of thing.
While the 60 minute running time looks daunting, 'Garden of Dreams' isn't really that hard-going. It's split into 18 seperate tracks anyway. But it is very uneven- there is good stuff and there is bad stuff in it, and some of it seems rushed. FK would have been better focusing on the good parts of the song and fleshing them out rather than racing through them (which they did on last years DVD release- although 10 minutes shorter, that version is much better).
The rest of the album is pretty much the same- a few average 'poppier' numbers, some pointless noodling (I still can't understand why a five second drum intro is a seperate track- even if 'IKEA by Night' is one of the coolest song names ever), and the occasional moment of genius. 'Deaf, Numb and Blind', 'Stupid Girl' and 'Psychedelic Postcard' are just plain cool, and make up for the pointlessness of certain other tracks.
Again, I give this one a B because, even if a good portion of of the music sucks, it has it's moments, and on two discs there is more than enough to keep me happy.
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
Uh... a lengthy review of Moving Pictures
I found an old tape I had lying around of Moving Pictures and I've been listening to it a lot. It's amazing how much of it I had forgotten, or never even realized. It's a better album than I remembered. The crazy '80s synthesizers and all don't at all get in the way of an album that has much more pure rock 'n' roll that you'd expect from a prog band. You know what it reminds me of? In Through the Out Door. I know a lot of people don't like that album, but trust me, that's high praise.
And Red Barchetta is a really cool song. I sort of collect songs about race cars, and this one has less testosterone and more of the actual sense of the sheer fun of driving than most of the rest, like Highway Star or Wheels of Steel.
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Originally posted by Lurrr:
They are still as complex and breathtakingly skilled as usual, but they seemed to have told the keyboards to take a break and handed the bassist a distortion pedal
Is that a good thing....? I'm thinking of buying a pedal for my bass but I dunno....can't afford it at the mo anyway but is it worth it....?
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I know you're all posting reviews of bands you think are great, but have you been introduced to the favourite band of Zappa and Cobain: THE SHAGGS:
(http://www.powerhousetheatre.com/images/shaggs.jpg)
Philosophy of the World, recorded 1969, contains some of the strangest songs you've ever heard, today classified as "outsider music". It sounds like you've taken a bunch of autistic kids, given them an instrument each, and locked them in a studio. The result is... different. Everyone is doing their own thing, there are no melodies, harmonies or beats "the way they should be", and the lyrics are... cute.
Do yourself a favor and try to get a hold on this cd. If you're playing in a band, and you're worried that you're not good enough, this cd is the perfect cure.
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
Pretty much heard most of 'Memphis Bells' by Prodigy today, and it's so cloolsome! It's even more different to Prodigy's usual stuff than Girls, and is more refreshing.
I just heard it this morning, and it's much better than "Girls". The bells are a nice touch although perhaps not quite as fresh after hearing Dizzee Rascal's "Brand New Day". :cool: It's alright though, definitely the best new Prodigy track thus far.
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That's clool you like it, yeah the bells are a nice interesting touch. My fave part is that synth breakdown in the middle, but the whole track has an awesome and slightly dark vibe :cool:
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Is that a good thing....? I'm thinking of buying a pedal for my bass but I dunno....can't afford it at the mo anyway but is it worth it....?
I use a digital effects pedal (Zoom 708), but I rarely put any distortion on. I don't really play the types of music that I'd need it for anyway, but I personally prefer a 'clean' bass sound. Distortion can make a bass sound muddy (and I prefer a smoother sound) and IMO the effect can get lost in the rest of the sound. Which is partly the trouble with DT- John Myung is a phenomenal bass player, but you can't hear what's he's playing most of the time!
Just my opinion though :)
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
Heh. You know how ridiculous that sounds, right? The pinnacle of Rod Stewart's career was when the Pogues covered "Maggie May."
I heard they were right up there with Zeppelin and The Who...
Ah well, I only heard one song by them anyway, on Top of the Pops 2 (oldies) no doubt, it was pretty good.
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Audioslave
2002
01. Cochise
02. Show Me How To Live
03. Gasoline
04. What You Are
05. Like A Stone
06. Set It Off
07. Shadow On The Sun
08. I Am The Highway
09. Exploder
10. Hypnotize
11. Bring Em Back Alive
12. Light My Way
13. Getaway Car
14. The Last Remaining Light
Just a quick review... Most people already know about this supergroup made up of ex-Soundgarden and Rage Against the Machine members. In short, this album rules. My fave tracks are the opener; 'Cochise', which kicks this album off, I love the structure, the lyrics, and it's the perfect length. 'Bring Em Back Alive' is one of my other faves, what an awesome riff heavy, room filling riff. Awesome vocal harmony to play off it, and cloolsome experimental solo in the middle. Love the voice effects, and the whole producion, with drums pushed back in the mix, but while sounding more brutal. Also, check out Tom Morello's astounding solo's on 'Like a Stone', and on another one of my faves; 'Shadow on the Sun'. Guitars never sounded so good before!...
I love the balance of sounds here, both bands styles work very well together, and I love the fact Rage's sound is still a dominant force. This album isn't perfect though, there's a few "meh" kinda songs here and there, generally more towards the end. 'Light My Way' and 'Getaway Car' for example, fillerish. The production on this album is very good and clear, but I personally find that on some of the songs the drums are too dominat and trebely in the mix, making for a slightly uncomfortable listen. Sometimes this works well when there's a good balance of other instruments, but on it's own with not much else I'm not too keen. If more of the songs were produced like 'Bring Em Back Alive', it'd help a lot. Having said that, this album still rules, and doesn't disappoint on the whole. Skip a few here and there, there's 14 tracks so you're still getting pretty much an average lengths album even with the odd skip...
8/10
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I'm going to be a whore right now, and whore my quick reviews on kickedintheface.com.
Capitalist Casualties - A Collection of Out Of Print Singles, Split EPs, and Compilation Tracks (http://www.kickedintheface.com/reviews/Capitalist_Casualties-Collection.htm)
D.R.I. - Dirty Rotten Reissue (http://www.kickedintheface.com/reviews/DRI-Dirty_Rotten.htm)
Into The Moat - Means By Which The End Is Justified (http://www.kickedintheface.com/reviews/Into_The_Moat-Means_By_Which_The_End_Is_Justified.htm)
Starkweather - Into The Wire (http://www.kickedintheface.com/reviews/Starkweather-Into_The_Wire.htm)
Toxic Narcotic - Had It Coming 7" (http://www.kickedintheface.com/reviews/Toxic_Narcotic-Had_It_Coming.htm)
More to come.
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Nelly Furtado has done a very good job with her official Euro 2004 song "Forca". It suits perfectly and it could be a great summerhit.
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The Flamin' Groovies Gold Star recordings are so awesome. Crappy, poorly produced covers haven't sounded so good since I was recording them on a boombox in a garage in junior high.
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Prodigy – Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned
(http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0002BK4I0.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
2004
UK release date – August 23rd (although I wouldn’t bet on it...)
01) Spitfire
02) Girls
03) Memphis Bells
04) Get Up Get Off
05) Hot Ride
06) Wake Up Call
07) Action Radar
08) Medusa’s Path
09) Phoenix
10) You’ll Be Under My Wheels
11) The Way It Is
12) Shoot Down
"It’s been a long time", says the female vocals in ‘Wake Up Call’. It’s been just over 7 years to be precise, since Prodigy’s last studio album; ‘The Fat Of The Land’. For me, the wait has been nothing short of painful. Every year since the year 2000 (when the album title was first announced) it’s supposed to have been “coming out”, but never did. Now finally after 7 long years, and a one-off single in 2002; “Baby’s Got A Temper” later, the album is here!...
Unlike ‘Baby’s Got a Temper’ and ‘The Fat of The Land’, you’ll find no Keith Flint on vocals here, or Maxim for that matter (Something which I’m all too happy about, and makes this album much more refreshing to hear) Prodigy could so easily have just had them on every track on the whole album, after the popularity of ‘The Fat of The Land’. Instead they’ve decided to retreat back underground. After all, ‘The Fat of The Land’ was an album made to represent Prodigy as a live act, and different tracks were written for each member to be performed live. With the new album, the most important thing is that it’s a good studio album, so it makes sense not to have them on vocals here.
Although the album isn’t supposed to be out until August 23rd, it leaked just over a week ago. I’ve been listening to it near constantly for the past week, and enjoying it more and more each time. As with every Prodigy album, it’s totally different from anything they’ve done before. I’d already heard ‘Girls’ beforehand from radio rips, and I love the track. It’s typically hard, but a totally new direction from the ‘Fat Of The Land’ sound. The intro sounds almost like it could have been taken from ‘The Dirtchamber Sessions’. This song goes back more to Liam’s roots and has an old skool hip hop vibe in places. I then also heard ‘Memphis Bells’ from a radio rip, and was amazed how different it was to ‘Girls’. That’s something I love about Prodigy, their songs are so different and unique. The title is pretty literal, in that the main line features loads of off-key bells. For those who didn’t know, the Memphis Belle was an old war plane, which typically had pretty women painted on the side. The only thing which slightly disappointed me about ‘Memphis Bells’ was a lack or hardness, but I didn’t worry to much about that, and thought it must be a one-off in that style or something.
After listening to the full album for the first time after 7 years waiting persistently, my first reaction was disappointment. Despite loving ‘Girls’ and ‘Memphis Bells’, the album as a whole left me feeling overwhelmed because it wasn’t what I wanted, or at least not what I thought I wanted. My main criticism with this album is simply the lack of hardness. Despite all three of Prodigy’s previous albums being totally different, they all shared an incredible hardness, and intensity of energy. That’s one of the main things I love about Prodigy, and for that element to only be fully present in one track; ‘Girls’ disappointment me a lot. I thought the opening track ‘Spitfire’ of all the tracks would totally bomb with hardness, especially with a title like that, but it’s actually a pretty slow song, to my disappointment.
In the 7 years I’d been waiting, it’d given me lots and lots of time to think about the new album, and what it might be like. I’d thought about it so much and so obsessively that I’d somehow managed to think that I knew what it would be like, and I knew it would be a certain way. I‘d imagined all of the things that I wanted this album to be, right down to the artwork itself. The fact it’s nothing like I imagined, in a way is actually very good, but that’s also why I think I’m so disappointed, along with having waited so long. So I decided I had to get over what I thought it was going to be like, and just accept it for what it is. Because if I didn’t then I’d never properly enjoy it. So I quickly threw out all of my stupid self-contained notions of what I thought it was going to be like and should be, and instead, have listened to it with a fresh mindset this past week.
‘Spitfire’ kicks the album off, and straight away gives me a ‘Smack My Bitch Up’ vibe, but without the hardness. It’s almost like a half speed ‘Smack My Bitch Up’, with the energy still there, but given to you more slowly and steadily throughout the track. Even the first female vocals by Juliet Lewis somehow sound similar to the female ‘Smack My Bitch Up’ vocals. The drums to me sound almost like a slowed down ‘Smack My Bitch Up’ drum. The lyrics “If I was in world way 2 they’d call me Spitfire” are a strong feature of the track, and I love the synths and organ line. If I had to describe this track in one word, I’d say it’s pulsating. An awesome opener, but probably the worst opening track of a Prodigy album.
I’ve already pretty much summed up the next two tracks, ‘Girls’ and ‘Memphis Bells’. Although it’s interesting to note that although the radio-rip of ‘Memphis Bells’ was an instrumental, the album version does contain lyrics by Princess Superstar. Also, the lyrics in ‘Girls’ are by the Ping Pong Bitches.
‘Get Up Get Off’ follows, and when I first heard this track I really wasn’t keen at all, I found it almost boring, something I never thought I’d ever feel about a Prodigy track. Luckily it’s a real grower, and it’s now one of my fave tracks on the album. Featuring Twista rapping, and also Shahin Badar (the female vocalist from ‘Smack My Bitch Up). This is a very underground, dark rap track, with some beautiful synth soundscapes. Twista’s vocals perfectly play off Shahin Badar’s; this track sounds very fresh, a totally new style and direction for Prodigy. It has to be given a lot of listens to be fully appreciated, it’s a very layered track, and every layers needs it’s own time to be listened to. The drums sound almost like a heavily distorted 909, which gives it an old skool vibe as well as being totally fresh and new at the same time!
‘Hot Ride’, again featuring Juliet Lewis on vocals then kicks off. This track, along with ‘Action Radar’ has taken small parts of a live track ‘Nuclear’, which was then scrapped. In ‘Hot Ride’, the main part of Nuclear which seems to be present are the drums, chugging along. However both of these tracks are totally different from ‘Nuclear’. This track is very punk in feeling, and yet has an equally electronic feel. If there was ever a song which represented the title; ‘Electronic Punks’, this is it. I love the breakdown too. It has a lot of energy, despite not being particularly hard.
‘Wake Up Call’ is a song Liam wrote in which he was trying to wake himself up to a new sound, and get back into making a new Prodigy album. Kool Keith is on vocals, but this is totally different to his track on ‘The Fat of The Land’; ‘Diesel Power’. Even though he raps, this isn’t really a rap track; it’s more about sections and flow. Also, this track is probably the hardest track on the album aside from ‘Girls’. It may not be hard compared to most Prodigy stuff, but within this album it bombs the rest on that level. I just love the flow and energy, the sounds, the atmosphere, the organic synths, and the awesomely original guitar hook, which is used almost as if it was a synth itself! Highly original track, and I think this is my fave track on the whole album, and even better that ‘Diesel Power’! Also, those alarm bells from ‘Claustrophobic Sting’ are on here too.
‘Action Radar’ has an extremely 80’s feel, it’s that old 80’s synth that does it, which is used throughout. I love the intro to this track, and it sounds similar to a part of ‘Nuclear’, slightly changed though. The rest of the track is totally different and new though. Unknown singer; Paul Jackson from an unsigned Essex punk band does vocals on here. He does a pretty good job too, he really gives the track a punk spirit, which mixes nicely with the sexy female vocals; “A little action is all I need”, and the 80’s vibe of the whole track. I dig the drums on here too, nice tempo shifts, reminds me of Prodigy’s early 90’s stuff. The four tracks in a row from ‘Get Up Get Off’ to ‘Action Radar’ are my favorite part of the album, all quality tracks which flow really well and have a cloolsome feel together.
‘Medusas Path’, the only instrumental on the album follows. This is a beautiful electronic soundscape of a track, and is like an epic sort of a journey. At only just over 3 mins, it’s one of the shortest Prodigy tracks ever, and the shortest album track they’ve done (not including the ‘intro’ on Jilted Generation). It’s got a definite middle eastern vibe, and layers of awesome electronic sounds. I just wish it was longer, to me it sounds like it has the potential to be an epic 6-7 minute track, shame no more was done with it.
‘Phoenix’ follows, a cover of Shocking Blue’s 'Love Buzz' (also more famously covered by Nirvana). I really wasn’t keen this cover to begin with, it doesn’t even sound like Prodigy. It’s still not one of my faves, but it’s grown on me a lot more now. Out of Prodigy’s covers’ I prefer it to ‘Fuel My Fire’, but I don’t like it as much as ‘Ghost Town’, which is amazing. ‘You’ll be Under My Wheels’ is another very electronic track. Anyone who knows Prodigy’s ‘Rock and Roll’, a live favorite, will recognize the vocal samples here. The rest of the track is good, but not really up to Prodigy’s usual standards. A nice warm bassline gets it through.
‘The Way it Is’ is an interesting track, it’s based around s re-created sample of the bassline from Michael Jackson’s ‘Thriller’. The timing in this track is deliberately out in places, which is clool. It’s very funky, a pretty clool track. And last of all, ‘Shoot Down’ ends the album, featuring Liam Gallagher on vocals, and Noel on bass. I recognized the intro straight away, because parts of this track are taken from a live track of Prodigy’s, which just like ‘Nuclear’, was then scrapped. It was called ‘Trigger’. I love the intro, and the song overall isn’t bad. I like Oasis anyway, which helps. It’s not really a typical Prodigy track though, but it ends the album off reasonably, and love the way at the very end some electronic synth comes in layered on, to bookmark the track with the same kind of style and sound to the rest of the album. I definitely prefer this to ‘Fuel My Fire’, which is the ending track on ‘The Fat of the Land’.
The main conclusions and points I draw from this album are, its awesome Prodigy have tried to do something fresh and new, instead of re-treading old ground. It took 7 years, but finally Liam managed to find a new sound. I love the fact that Keith Flint and Maxim aren’t on it. And I absolutely love the fact that this album is very electronic and synth based. I love the more electronic side of Prodigy. The album is built up with layers, there’s lots of parts that have to be listened to over time to be fully appreciated. All three of Prodigy’s previous albums had immediate impacts on me as snoon as I heard them. This is the only Prodigy album, which didn’t do that to me, which is perhaps partly due to it’s lack of hardness. But this shouldn’t be dismissed on first listen; it has to be listened to many times. The whole album has a Middle Eastern feel, especially in certain tracks. There’s a lot of distortion throughout the album, especially on vocals. It’s very sexy too. It’s got hardness, but it’s unfortunately nowhere near as hard as any of Prodigy’s previous albums. I hate the album cover (if that’s what it is) I’m praying it’s just a promo cover, but as the days go by, I get more and more worried. I love all of Prodigy’s previous album covers, and can’t believe what’s happened here. It’s the shortest Prodigy album, but not by a lot. The production is amazing just like every Prodigy release, but The Fat of The Land era’s production, and especially ‘Baby’s Got A Temper’ are better produced in my opinion. Stand out track; ‘Wake Up Call’. Thanx Liam for finally getting it done, I needed that.
And there we have it, the first new studio album by Prodigy in over 7 years. Was it worth the wait? Yes. Was it as good as I thought it would be? No. It’s the worst Prodigy album in my opinion, but that doesn’t mean it’s bad by any length. Of course I love this album though, and I prefer it to anything by anyone else (Prodigy are my favorite band after all). Here’s how I rate it compared to Prodigy’s previous albums...
Music For The Jilted Generation (1994) 10/10
The Fat of The Land (1997) 9.8/10
The Prodigy Experience (1992) 9.7/10
Always Outnumbered Never Outgunned (2004) 9.5/10
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Just like to point out that Memphis Belle was a B17 bomber from WW2 which they made a film about.
Looks like I'll be getting this album when its released though, from what your review said, they sound as hardcore as ever.
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Originally posted by nerdlingus:
...from what your review said, they sound as hardcore as ever.
What does that mean?
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The Prodigy were part of the rave scene back in the day, there Experience album is nothing more than good hardcore and there singles from that era rock too with 'We Are The Ruffest' being a particular favorite of mine.
Otis, do you have a copy of Prodigy's first record, Android/What Evil Lurks? The original copies of the single regularly fetch over £100 on ebay, not a bad tune either :) But its sounds like your a full on Prodigy fan so I'd defo recommend it, and I'm sure there might be some official XL represses out at the moment, but only a few thousend copies were pressed or something.
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Originally posted by nerdlingus:
Otis, do you have a copy of Prodigy's first record, Android/What Evil Lurks? The original copies of the single regularly fetch over £100 on ebay, not a bad tune either :) But its sounds like your a full on Prodigy fan so I'd defo recommend it, and I'm sure there might be some official XL represses out at the moment, but only a few thousend copies were pressed or something.
I'm affraid I don't, well I kinda do have a copy of it. I've got it on minidisc. But I don't have an original, because only about 7000 were originally pressed. You're right, XL were meant to do some official re-presses last month, then it got put back to this month. I ordered one at HMV, but just the other day I got a postcard from them telling me my order had been cancelled. I think it was because XL couldn't get permission to one of the samples used in it. I don't know how they got round it originally, but XL were an underground label back then, so maybe that's how.
They're on ebay quite a lot, but now there's been more fakes made than originals, so I don't totally trust that. I do Love 'What Evil Lurks' though, so underground, and the bassline kicks ass! The other 3 songs are interesting too, especially 'Android'. And it's clool to hear the very first mix of 'Everbody in the Place', before the 'Fairground Mix' and Experience version...
On the note or rare stuff, my best "rare" Prodigy release is the 5 track 'Everybody in the Place' CD single. There's only a few thousand(ish) on CD ever made. My version contains the extra track 'Rip Up The Sound System'. When it was originally released, apparently the 5 tracks meant there were too many for some chart rule, so they quickly repressed them with 4 tracks instead, and missed off 'Rip Up he Sound Sytem'. They did however keep this track on the Vinyl version. However, on CD there's only a few thousand copies ever made, if that, and I have one :D
edit - Oh, and I have to agree with you on 'We Are The Ruffest', one of the best Experience era songs!
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The first mix of Everybody in the Place has to be my fav version of it, underground all the way, I find it shits over the fairground edit, which lets face it, was made for the charts.
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I've just heard Keith Flint's latest crappy project; "Clever Brains Fryin'". The song is called "Oozy". At least it's totally different to his last failure of a project; "Flint". This isn't punk at all, it actually sounds like late 80's/early 90's underground weird shit. I dunno really, it's pretty crappy, but respect to him for trying something different, and at least it's not as bad as "Flint" was...
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Mmm, whatever happened to Flint?
Aim 4 was a decent single, after that, I dunno...
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Flint got ditched after such poor response and sales to 'Aim 4'. Kinda a shame because the album was all recorded and everything. I heard 30 second samples of most of the tracks, but to be honest they pretty much sounded the same...
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Quicky review:
Sahara Hotnights - Kiss & Tell
You'd think that because Sahara Hotnights is a Scandinavian hard rock act, that I'd praise them to the skies. Well, they do rock, but I've not been that much of a fan before. Kiss & Tell, and their other album, Jennie Bomb, always seemed too poppy for me. Of course, that means they're catchy as all hell, and it takes years of therapy to get any one of their choruses out of your head, but they never really hit me where Rock & Roll is suppose to hit you. They seem to me to have the sound of a girl group that deep down doesn't really believe they can rock with the boys and have to make up for it with charisma. Like they're trying too hard to sound like they got balls. Not that I'd accuse them of posturing, but there's a lot of West Coast girl bands like that. Hemi Cuda, Hellfire Choir... suffice to say, I'm tired of it.
But then, since I got Kiss & Tell I've been listening to it through two blown speakers because I'm a poor sumbitch. Today I just took a listen through my real good headphones, and I was amazed at the difference. This album is unbelievably well produced. I mean, like Led Zeppelin tier production, with the technical perfection of 2004 technology. It's a thing of beauty. The production alone has made me reconsider my verdict of inauthenticity, especially because I've been singing the chorus to "The Difference Between Love and Hell" for so long I'm convinced I need it to survive.
So I guess I'm saying it grows on you, especially if you can appreciate great production.
Now I wish I'd gone to see them when they played the Fillmore a week ago.
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Lostprophets, Midtown, Lagwagon, No Use for a Name, Sugarcult, whatever grabs my atention
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Yeah, you want the Music with Rocks in (http://www.peelified.com/cgi-bin/Futurama/12-000539/) thread. This one is for actually reviewing music, not just mentioning it.
Getting back to the topic of Sahara Hotnights. Just because they're on a major label, they get compared to the Hives. Abolish this comparison from your mind. The Hives are from a completely different scene from Sahara Hotnights, who actually go back to the mid-'90s White Jazz scene, the real good Swedish bands, like the Hellacopters, Gluecifer, the Backyard Babies, etc. Don't let the Hives sour you on Swedish music.
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Another one of my reviews got added:
Converge - Petitioning The Empty Sky (http://www.kickedintheface.com/reviews/Converge-Petitioning_The_Empty_Sky.htm)
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Another quicky review of whatever I happen to be listening to:
Teengenerate - Get Action! - Crypt Records, 1995
Kill all hipsters. Nu-garage be damned. This is real '60s-style no-fi garage. I mean, hell, they're on Crypt Records. Their influences are essentially the Crypt mailorder catalog. Think the Dictators, Johnny Burnette, Flamin' Groovies, that sort of respect for the past, mishmashed into a '90s Japanese punk scene that thrived on '60s nostalgia, but used it to its own destructive ends. Like the Oblivians or the Cramps, but Japanese. Johnny Thunders in particular is a huge cultural icon in Japan's underground music scene, probably more recognizable there than in the west, where our punk forbears are unjustly ignored.
Anyway, Teengenerate started in the early '90s as an American Soul Spiders breakup band. Since, they've become one of those legendary bands no one's ever heard of. This album is some of their best stuff. "Let's Get Hurt" is one of the best rock songs of the '90s. I dunno if "Kicked Out of the Webelos" is a Teengenerate song that the Queers covered, or a Queers song that Teengenerate covered, but Teengenerate's version is better. These guys aren't as loud as Guitar Wolf, or as conceptual, but they have the same musical philosophy. This album was recorded in the studio all as live takes onto 4-track with essentially zero production, and it couldn't sound better.
So if you're sick of nu-garage, and you want to know what real garage is, get your hands on this, then get your hands on the Crypt Records (http://www.cryptrecords.com/) catalog and start orderin'. But don't turn into a fucking rockabilly hipster, because the next guy I see driving a '31 Ford with a pompadour and little narrow black-framed glasses is getting his face smashed in.
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Prodigy - More Girls
This is basically a remix of 'Girls'. It will feature as one of the b-sides when the single is released. I got it already as a bonus track on my Japanese version of the album. Anyway, this remix totally rules! It's got this retro old skool 80's start, then a load of deep low down bass kicks in with awesome hard beats. Unlike the original track, after a bit, Maxim sings on it and his vocals kick in, followed by a short sample of the beginning with the female vocals on top. Repeat this, but after Maxims vocals this time, we have a totally new breakdown in the middle, it's slow and very dark. This builds up, then some really lowdown bass kicks in, and the beats, more Maxim and stuff, and after a bit it ends, with a similar sound to how it starts, but with a pitch bend. This is really hard, it's more Fat of The Land style, and this is a real clubrocker. In my opinion, the best remix since Rat Poison!...
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Otis, I grabbed a couple of new Prodge tracks, and I must say I'm impressed. Says more about the influence of old skool hip-hop (it's not hip-hop, it's electro ;)) on Liam.
Girls is total early 80's heaven in my opinion, and along with "Dirtchamber.." shows that Liam's been listening to some classic tunes.
I'm a big fan of Electro, so if you're interested, there's a brand-new Street Sounds "Electro" compilation just been released.
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It's good to hear you're enjoying their new direction. Yeah, there's quite a lot of electro style and 80's synths on the album. Check out 'Action Radar' for a full-on dose of 80's flavour. And that comp sounds clool :cool:
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That comp is cool, I got in touch with some people ages ago who ran an Electro site, and they got me a few CD copies to the original Street Sounds Electro albums (I've got "5", "7", "9", "11" and "NY Vs. LA Beats" ), dating back from 1983-1985.
You can't get them now, that's why the compilation is refreshing to hear, I'm glad it's out.
Although what's missing from the Compilation is the awesome World Class Wrecking Kru, as it's great to hear what Dr. Dre was doing before NWA.
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I've just realised I have a correction to make in regard to my Prodigy 'Always Outnumbered Never Outgunned' review. It turns out that 'Medusas Path' isn't 3 minutes, it's actually just over 6 mins. The ripped version was only half of the track (I even said it could have done with being longer in my review). Thankfully it is longer, and this verison is much better, much more epic, and one of my fave tracks on the album now...
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
Guitar Wolf - Jet Generation (1999)
(http://www.girlplusboy.com/images/albums/guitarwolf-jetgeneration.jpg)
And finally I did pick up this album, a couple of weeks ago.
One of the loudest records I have heard yet, but not as loud as some people claim it to be. But on the otherhand, 'Roaring Blood', with its very, very distorting sound almost blew out my speakers alone. Ah!
I've only got 2 Guitar Wolf records, the other one, Run Wolf Run, I like much better overall than this - but their both great anyway. :)
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Nice purchase.
Guitar Wolf's older stuff is more authentic, if that means anything, but Jet Generation is their most accessible album. I like them all. Run Wolf Run is really hard to find. Where'd you get it?
Their new album is out in Japan, but it's been delayed in the US, so I haven't heard it yet.
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XfilesX - Excruciation (http://www.kickedintheface.com/reviews/XfilesX-Excruciation.htm)
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
Nice purchase.
Guitar Wolf's older stuff is more authentic, if that means anything, but Jet Generation is their most accessible album. I like them all. Run Wolf Run is really hard to find. Where'd you get it?
Their new album is out in Japan, but it's been delayed in the US, so I haven't heard it yet.
Strange. I got Run Wolf Run at a 2nd-hand record shop before I moved. Pretty much luck, I suppose. I still havent seen another copy yet. Their albums are so damn hard to find here in Australia. :(
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Mark Lanegan - Field Songs
2001
Tracklist:
1. One Way Street
2. No Easy Action
3. Miracle
4. Pill Hill Seranade
5. Don't Forget Me
6. Kimiko's Dream Me
7. Resurrection Song
8. Field Song
9. Low
10. Blues For D
11. She Done Too Much
12. Fix
Now this is what I call a "4am Album".
Insofar, as, if you find yourself up at 4am, sitting in a darkened room, light a cigarette, pour a whiskey and "enjoy" this album.
A veteran singer of Screaming Trees, who's worked with Kurt Cobain, and latterly, sings occasionally with Queens Of The Stone Age, he's moving in the right circles, and he's been through the wringer doing it.
This record owes as much to country-rock and Leonard Cohen albums as it does to Grunge, although maybe more so, it's a better bedfellow with the former.
You cannot get any more melancholy than this selection, and you can almost smell the whiskey on Mark Lanegans breath and hear the cigarette inhales before each line is sung. These are dirty love songs, to darkness, blackness and things that are bad for you.
I don't have his latest album, Bubblegum, but it's on my list - my mate copied this and his previous album I'll Take Care Of You for me, and I've been meaning to review this for ages.
If this is your thing, check it out, if not, check it out anyway, you might be surprised.
7/10
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The Shins- Oh, Inverted World
Just bought it 2 days ago and i have fell in love with it. After some urging by Bender_Waffles(my sister) and a few friends, I decided to listen to some of the Shin's material.
And damn am I impressed
This band has one hell of a sound which is very Dylan-ish. They have some really beautiful harmonies(especially on "New Slang" ) and they sound amazing. I'm not usually taken to a band as quickly as i did to them.
An amazing record. 10/10
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
Mark Lanegan - Field Songs...
I've heard some of his solo stuff, and I really like his voice, but I defiantly prefer Screaming Trees. His solo stuff, although really clool, isn't heavy enough for my liking. Although I love that song he sings on with Layne Staley on the Mad Season album; 'Long Gone Day'...
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It's stuff you just have to be in the mood for.
I couldn't, say, throw a wild party, or play a DJ set, and say "hey guys, check this out!", I'd be stoned to death.
It's stuff which - I think - is for people to listen to on their own. It's heavy, but a different kind of heavy - if you know what I mean.
Like I said, I'm told his new album is worth picking up, so I'm gonna...
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I mentioned the Secret Machines earlier. I finally picked up their album Now Here is Nowhere. I also found out the drummer, whom I spoke of highly, is apparently some dude named Josh Garza. Now, this album isn't what I'd normally like. It's a fairly vague, ambient krautrock/psyche sound, which is not my scene. I got into it entirely because of the John Bonham redivivus drumming. But I like it entirely independently of this. The nine minute songs, the weird wind-sound-effect-on-the-synthesizer crap, the Dark Side of the Moon "aaahhh-aaahhh" backup vocals, all of it. It's not what I'm gonna play in the car every damn day, but it manages to be impressive in its listenability, even if it doesn't often rock very hard. And the drumming is so damn good. I mean, there's probably a lot of production and artificial reverb put into making it sound like John Bonham, but it works, and it's not like you could just press a button and make anyone sound that good. It takes giant balls to play that far behind the beat and make it work.
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Lord of the Rings: Return of The King:
Right, I've seen the movie once in cinema and twice on DVD with the cinema being 100 times better and the music blew me away in heart lifting, uber dramatic, epic style:
Every charge, every twist in the struggle, every movement of the pieces on the chessboard.
The opening track is ok, revealing Smeagols descent into Gollum-ness, bit moody, not too bad.
The real delight starts with Gandy and his journey to Minas Tirith with Pippin (beats the Rohan/Edoras theme hands down! :p )
Then again with the majestic piece when the lights of the White Mts. are lit, awesome.
Then there's a bit with Billy Boyd singing like a woman but that's only ok... :p
Now, in the cinema Minas Morgul kicked ass, I knew Frodo wasn't going to go in but I was still like "Don't go in there you fucking nonce!".
But when that Nazgul came out on his Fellbeast, it fucking kicked everythings ass simultaneously that ever existed, ever!
It screeched into my brain and sent multiple orgasmic shivers up, down, around and into the very atomic structure of my spine.
Next we have a nice sword making tune (Anduril) that really makes the elves look even cooler:
"Some dickhead stepped on your saber? We can remake any sword and it will kick any other swords ass, thats our guarantee!"
And there's also Shelobs Lair music that's genuinely creepy.
Finally, when the shit finally hits the fan and old Denethor realises he should've moved to his summer house in Belfalas for the weekend, the music BAMS it up a notch and those Nazgul come screaming down and heads and bits of buildings start to fly, the choral chanting really says "Holy Crap! They're boned!"
The next few songs include the Charge of the Rohirrim, counter charge of the Mumakil and whooping of Orc bottoms by the Army of the Dead are awesome.
But they are then shadowed by the epic ending themes Black Gate Opens (in which you can hear a bit of Into The West at the end) and End of All Things.
The last three songs finish the film off really well, with Into The West being more emotional, I think.
Thank you Howard Shore, thank God you don't suck at film scoring. :D A+.
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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
Now, in the cinema Minas Morgul kicked ass, I knew Frodo wasn't going to go in but I was still like "Don't go in there you fucking nonce!".
But when that Nazgul came out on his Fellbeast, it fucking kicked everythings ass simultaneously that ever existed, ever!
It screeched into my brain and sent multiple orgasmic shivers up, down, around and into the very atomic structure of my spine.
Best overall moment of that movie, bar none. Acting, visual FX, score and sound mixing all coming together in 10 seconds of orgasmic delight. That's double what I'm used to. :p
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I'd go to the Extended cinema release just for that bit even if the rest of the film sucked...
But it doesn't, so I'll go to see it........... um........
3 more times!! :evillaugh: :D
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The new Prodigy site is up at last, and what do I find? "Spacehopper"! :D This is a very old skool rave tune from Liam's original 10 track demo, in 1990. We're talking pre-Experience days, and before he was even signed to XL! And 14 years later he puts it up on the site. He mentioned it 2 years ago in an online chat, saying back then he'd put it up on the official site snoon, but I honestly thought we'd never see it after 2 years passing...
Anyway, onto the song itself. It's very simple, which is understandable seeing as it's from a demo before he was signed, and because he only had one or two W30's, and it was made in his bedroom, y'know. Although what's there is very simple, it's also very strong, and really retro old skool. I think he must have re-mastered it recently, because the sound quality is amazing, and way above what his equipment was capable of all those years ago. Not the greatest track, but a classic old skool rave track, and a most interesting and welcome addition...
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I must say that I'm liking the new Prodge album. I'm liking it lots. I played a couple of my old Street Sounds Electro Compilations for comparison, and it's pretty striking.
EDIT: Otis, break the habit of a lifetime, and go and see them live, this tour. They ruled last time I saw them, and both times overall.
Conversely, the new FatBoySlim song is total cobblers.
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
Conversely, the new FatBoySlim song is total cobblers.
Slash dot dash dot slash dot dash dot com!
I have to agree there :D It sounds like he hasn't put much effort into it ... :hmpf:
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Yeah, sounds like he's phoned it in.
The video is pretty crummy too, two naked people dawbing eachother in graffiti-tags, it's like, ugh, get a shower!
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Three new U2 tracks have been leaked, thought they aren't studio versions... you can hear waves and French people throughout, and the quality is pretty poor. The new single Vertigo is going to be released in early November, then the album in mid-late November. Now onto the leaked tracks...
Vertigo is decent, and sounds pretty rockish. It reminds me of their earlier stuff (Boy or War). Miracle Drug is my favourite of the new tracks. It sounds awsome. Can't wait to hear the full studio version of it, and I think it will be a great live song. Love And Peace is my least favourite of the new tracks, and I can't say I like it much at all. It has a very bluesy feel to it. I hope this one isn't on the album...
If you really want them, I can send them to you over MSN (see profile for address).
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http://www.punk77.co.uk/punkhistory/punkhistbeatles.htm (http://www.punk77.co.uk/punkhistory/punkhistbeatles.htm)
Oh man, this is great. Best review of Sgt. Pepper ever. I swear I didn't write it, though I might as well have.
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I got the new Megadeth - 'The System Has Failed' yesterday, and I must say I'm extremely impressed, and quite surprised! I couldn't be arsed with their last two albums. Well, I did buy 'Risk', but sold it pretty quickly after because it totally sucked! As for 'The World Needs a Hero', what I heard sounded better than 'Risk', but very uninspired and re-hashy, so I never got that either...
The new album is a total return to form! This is actually real thrash metal, the kind of Metal they haven't played since 'Rust in Peace' (bar a couple of songs on various 90’s releases of theirs). But this is solidly like that, not just a couple of songs. This is like an 80's thrash metal album, made with todays production! It reminds me most of a cross between of 'Peace Sells, But Who's Buying?' and 'Rust in Peace', with a few 90's Megadeth styles thrown in, yet played in full-on thrash style. Even Chris Poland is back (who last played with them in 1986 on 'Peace Sells')! And unbelievably, Dave Mustaine has got rid of Dave Ellefson, who's been the only other constant member to stay with the band throughout all their albums.
Also, this album is full of awesome guitar solo's, and has Chris Poland’s unique style embedded into it. I never thought a metal album like this would be made this side of the millennium. And at long last, finally we have a Megadeth album with good production! About damn time they got that right. This actually has real meat in the riffs. Ok, maybe not quite as much as Anthax's last two offerings, but definitively enough.
It's a miracle this album ever got made, because after Dave Mustaine’s nerve damage in his arm, he was told he'd never play again. Everyone thought that was it after the last album, but thankfully not! Although it turns out this is most probably the last Megadeth album anyway. At least they’ll be going out on a good note. Apparently it was originally gonna be a Dave Mustaine solo project, but due to contractual obligations, it had to have the Megadeth name branded onto it. Also, check out 'Something that I'm Not', I don't often listen to lyrics in songs that much, but this one is hilarious! It's a total full-on hate anthem at Lars Ulrich and Hetfield from Metallica, it's great!...
Basically, if you liked Megadeth's full-on thrash Metal, you'll love this. In particular, if you liked 'Rust in Peace', and don't worry, this isn't a re-hash of old times, this has a freshness too!
8/10
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Capitalist Casualties - Planned Community 6" (http://www.kickedintheface.com/reviews/Capitalist_Casualties-Planned_Community.htm)
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Originally posted by Melllvar:
Yeah, sounds like he's phoned it in.
The video is pretty crummy too, two naked people dawbing eachother in graffiti-tags, it's like, ugh, get a shower!
The video has been banned from daytime terrestrial TV, because it "might encourage graffiti"...
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It's been a while since i bought it but here ya go:
The Shins: Chutes Too Narrow
I've heard reviews on the internet calling this album 'Pet Sounds' for the 21st century. I dont know if I'd go THAT far, but this is one AWESOME album. It's a much different feel than "Oh Inverted World" but i like it no less. James Mercer really shines on this record and sounds amazing. Could have mistaken him for Brian Wilson himself.
Great record: 10/10
Speaking of Brian Wilson, is any body else excited about the upcomming release of the long-lost 'SMiLE' album next week? Personally, I'm so excited that i wish i could wet my pants. The Hype has been HUGE, with articles in The NY Times, USA Today, etc. Rolling Stone.com just posted it's review of the new album: 5 Stars. I dont ever recall seeing ANY album get 5 stars by the magazine.
I've heard some snip-its of the songs on the internet and i can safely say that it could be the most amazing music I've heard EVER. Yeah, thats right, EVER. There was a quote once by the late Beach Boys drummer, Dennis Wilson that "Smile will make Pet Sounds stink." There might just be a little bit of truth in that quote. This upcomming album is referred to as alot of things: "Mozart of the 20th Century", "Teenage Symphony to God", "The American Sgt Pepper", "The Greatest unfinished Rock Album in Music History".
All i can say is that it is gonna blow ALOT of minds. And I'm happy to brag that I will be sitting FRONT ROW when Brian Wilson performs SMiLE at the legendary Carnegie Hall next month.
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Originally posted by alexvilagosh:
Vertigo is decent, and sounds pretty rockish. It reminds me of their earlier stuff (Boy or War).
I've just heard this from my U2 head homeboy. It's a pretty good track. I got emailed a file probably ripped off the radio, so the quality is crap and you can't hear the production. I've heard nothing else yet, but it's nice to see that they haven't done anything stupid so far. There was a while there when every U2 album was some egregious egotistical experiment, but they seemed to have matured a lot with the last album, and I can see it continuing. So I actually think Vertigo reminds me of their most recent stuff, not their old stuff.
Villa, you seem to have heard most of the album by now. Is it possible to tell from the leaked stuff what effect switching producers has had on the album?
On another note, I've been listening to Brian Eno's Here Come The Warm Jets. I cannot believe this album was made in 1973. It sounds like some 1981 Stooges-influenced stuff. It's tame by today's standards, but it must have blown people's minds in 1973. Unless they were Velvet Underground fans. I always thought of Brian Eno as a crappy ambient loser, but this is a groundbreaking album. It's a bit Bowie-esqe. My band is planning to cover Blank Frank with altered lyrics.
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Since Spiff and TLI have been talking about Lightning Bolt a bunch in the tinnitus thread, I downloaded Wonderful Rainbow, because I hadn't heard it in a long while. I think I'm gonna try and buy it. It has a really good sound. In fact, I'm gonna listen to it some more because I want to steal their bass sound for my band. Although they stole their bass sound from Guitar Wolf. They're on a Guitar Wolf tribute album, you know. They do a kickass like six minute version of Planet of the Wolves. It rocks. The band itself is a little too repetitive and instrumental for me; it sounds like a rave at many points, but I like the bass and guitar sound. And anyone who covers Guitar Wolf is OK in my book.
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Minor Threat - First Demo Tape(7" version) (http://www.kickedintheface.com/reviews/Minor_Threat-First_Demo_Tape.htm)
Also, I didn't write this, but it's from the guy who runs the site I write for. Read or die.
Dead Milkmen - Now We Are 20 (http://www.kickedintheface.com/reviews/Dead_Milkmen-Now_We_Are_20.htm)
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*Bump*
Brian Wilson: "SMiLE"
After picking it up this afternoon and giving the whole album a listen, here is my review of the legendary album.
BREATHTAKING. The greatest album and piece of music I've EVER HEARD.
Nuff said. 20/10
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There is a new Metallica album out. It's called "A New Kind Of Monster". Has anyone here heard any of the stuff on it? I'm asking seeing how bad "St. Anger" was last year.
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It's called Some Kind of Monster, inspired by the documentary of the same name. So far, I think Some Kind of Monster is only an EP soundtrack.
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Originally posted by evan:
It's called Some Kind of Monster, inspired by the documentary of the same name. So far, I think Some Kind of Monster is only an EP soundtrack.
Damn, I meant "Some Kind of Monster" but my brain works faster than my hands. That makes sense though because I thought it would strange for them to just release a new album when they are still touring for "St. Anger". Thanks for clearing that up Evan.
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I think it's just a dvd/documentary actually....but I've been wrong before....
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But I believe they're going to release Some Kind of Monster as an album. Although I missed the movie, I believe it showed the recording of St. Anger as well as the following tour. But the doc. also will hype the new cd.
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Another one of my Kicked In The Face reviews was posted.
Spazz/Lack Of Interest - Double Whammy Split EP (http://www.kickedintheface.com/reviews/Spazz-Lack_Of_Interest-Double_Whammy_Split_EP.htm)
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The D4 - 6Twenty
(http://store.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/drf900/f991/f99122sbej0.jpg)
1 Rock 'N' Roll Motherfucker
2 Get Loose
3 Party
4 Come On
5 Invader Ace
6 Exit To The City
7 Heartbreaker
8 Running On Empty
9 Ladies Man
10 Pirate Love
11 Little Baby
12 Rebekah
13 Mysterex
14 Outta Blues
The D4 is I guess one of those nu-garage/rock revival bands from New Zealand. Not the sort of thing I'd normally be too interested in, but I'd heard Seiji from Guitar Wolf say he was a big fan in an interview, so I picked it up for cheap at the local record store. I figured, if they cover Guitar Wolf and Johnny Thunders, they can't be bad. I gave it a listen, and I thought it was OK, so I played it real loud in the car and I liked it a bit better. So at least they rock for real.
The Guitar Wolf connection looks like some sort of mutual admiration society, because the inside of the CD booklet is plastered with images of Guitar Wolf, among others, and they cover Invader Ace. But the Guitar Wolf influence isn't that noticeable in the band's sound. They seem to have spent a lot more effort sounding like their other obvious influence, Johnny Thunders and the Heartbreakers. I mean, they've got that act down to a science. My guess is they all got hooked on smack and started acting like giant assholes just to be like Johnny. The singer mimics all his intonations, the guitar player tries to play just like him, and the drummer plays just like Jerry Nolan. It works, too, so you can tell they've got the talent to back up the comparison. Especially the guitar player. This guy's got some pretty hot stuff. The bass player is the exception to the rule; he reminds me more of the Guitar Wolf side of things. He plays through a distortion pedal and doesn't play a fill the whole album, but he knows how to give a song some meat. So these guys obviously have what it takes to rock; their cover of Pirate Love is note-perfect. They'd make a great Heartbreakers cover band. But the songwriting doesn't really live up to the talent.
I mean, their songs all sound like they were written by the Datsuns. They don't take any chances. Bland lyrics about cheatin' girls, pedestrian riffs, self-production that's obviously geared toward the Heartbreakers theme, and a fairly gutless rehash of what should be an earsplitting Guitar Wolf song make the album seem less remarkable that what the band seems capable of. Especially with that hot guitar. Maybe they're a great live act. Maybe they're trying too hard to be radio friendly, because they seem to be painting inside the lines most of the time. They need to turn the knobs up and realize that what makes their idols so great is that they broke the molds they were cast in and made some totally original music. Plus... man, their lyrics suck. It gets way better towards the end of the album; in fact everything from Pirate Love on picks up the pace a lot, but I feel like this band is searching for something that will make them inspire some real awe.
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This isn't really a music review, per se, but that new Eminem song sucks more than anything has ever sucked before. It's sad when someone who used to have talent deteriorates into self-parody.
"Guess who's back with a brand new rap?" WTF?!? Is someone not even trying anymore?
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I haven't heard it yet, but that doesn't sound so good. Maybe he's better off with D12 now, or maybe they've warped his fragile little mind...
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D12 sucks. Bizzare is the only other rapper that you can pick out of a line-up by his voice, and their songs are dirty for the fun of it.
And ya, E makes too much money to care whether his songs are diamonds or rocks.
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I'm in 2 minds about the new Eminem song....it's called Just Lose It
It was annoying at first but now I've heard it a few times it's not that bad....not one of his best but they can't all be gems....
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Well, I'm in a Pain of Salvation mood at the moment, and I feel like explaining why they are great. So here's a review of their first album, with more to come later. (Their third album 'A Perfect Element' I reviewed here (http://www.peelified.com/cgi-bin/Futurama/12-000457-8/#t305))
Entropia (1999)
1. ! (Foreword)
2. Welcome to Entropia
3. Winning a War
4. People Passing By
5. Oblivion Ocean
6. Stress
7. Revival
8. Void of Her
9. To the End
10. Circles
11. Nightmist
12. Plains of Dawn
13. Leaving Entropia
This is PoS' first album, which was the last one I bought. As with most first albums, the band doesn't think very highly of it but I was pleasantly surprised. Even at this stage in their career PoS were making some very original and powerful music.
So, let's explain: Pain of Salvation are a progressive-metal band from Sweden, whose albums are all extremely dark concept albums. While not as technically skilled as Dream Theater (the current 'leaders' in prog-metal) they are more emotional and subtle. One look at the album covers give an impression of the atmosphere of the music- grim and foreboding, although slightly hopeful.
Entropia (from what I can tell) follows the story of a young boy who follows his father to war. The opening track '!' acts as an introduction to the story, but is also one of heavier (=better) numbers on the album. And the lyrics are worth reading. 'Winning a War' is the other heavy track on Entropia, and is closer to the tone of later PoS albums than the other tracks- the lyrics deal with abandonment, the loss of a parents and the general tragedy of war.
I am informed by my brother that 'People Passing By' sounds a lot like Incubus. I can't confirm this as I have never listened to Incubus, but I will say it is a very funky song with a cool slap bassline. 'Circles' also contains a great bassline, with the ballsiest sound I have probably ever heard from a bass. My other favorite track on this album is 'Plains of Dawn' which satisfies my love of cheesy ballads, although don't hold that against it.
Entropia is certainly not as good as PoS' later releases, but this is still one of the strongest first albums I've ever heard. It's major problems are the sound (quality is good, but the production on later is albums just blows this away) and a few dull tracks, but it has it's moments of greatness.
7/10
I'll also mention that PoS' latest album 'Be' has just been released, and every minute I spend not owning is a crime against God.
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Originally posted by Gleno:
but now I've heard it a few times it's not that bad
Incorrect.
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:laff: at Jeremy.
Yeah, it's pretty bad. The video's even worse, though. Now, he's spoofing things from 12 years ago! Pee-Wee Herman, Madonna's pointy boobs, MC Hammer, Michael Jackson....Eminem's really cutting edge now!
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Originally posted by evan:
:laff: at Jeremy.
Yeah, it's pretty bad. The video's even worse, though. Now, he's spoofing things from 12 years ago! Pee-Wee Herman, Madonna's pointy boobs, MC Hammer, Michael Jackson....Eminem's really cutting edge now!
Well I haven't seen the vid but what's the big deal....? His rhymes are still clever and if he wants to work a bit of old stuff into his new stuff then that's cool....
Just 'cos the new song has some of his older lyrics mixed in doesn't mean he'll be running out of new ideas any time soon
And as for spoofing "old" stuff....well Eminem wasn't releasing albums 12 years ago so he couldn't do it then, so he's doing it now.... :p
also on Lurrr's reccomendation I'm downloading Pain Of Salvation to see if I like 'em.... :D
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It's just annoying, and I'm sick of him being able to put out shit like this. No one else could get away with that. It's insulting to people who respect him as a lyricist. He's not getting any more of my money. I'll download his album. (RIAA if you're reading this, I'm actually evan. I live in Indiana. Just e-mail me and I'll give you my address, phone number, whatever you need. Also, I still wet the bed.)
Instead I'll spend my money on someone who actually needs it: (http://www.psychologicalrecords.com/images/goretex-the-art-of-dying.jpg) I love this cover. :love:
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Jon, if you're in this thread, do you like Sage's new song "Slow Down Gandhi"?
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Quicky double review:
Guitar Wolf - Love Rock/Rock & Roll Etiquette
Love Rock is Guitar Wolf's latest album, which just dropped in the US in July, while RRE is the brand spankin' new US release of Guitar Wolf's 2000 album, both on Narnack Records. Along with UFO Romantics, these are the three albums Guitar Wolf released after Jet Generation, which I reviewed earlier.
In some ways, every Guitar Wolf album is going to be more of the same, so don't expect anything groundbreaking out of these two. That being said, they represent a definite evolution in sound for those hard of hearing enough to be able to listen carefully. RRE is a bit of a regression to earlier style after the commercial success and high-budget "production" of Jet Generation, but they're still both very loud. RRE is also more sef-consciously a rockabilly album than earlier efforts, including covers of the Royal Pendletons, Bobby Troup, and Jack Scott, but it's also firmly entrenched in the current scene, opening with a song about Godspeed You, Black Emperor. Overall, it's loud as hell, and has very little in the way of attempts at serious musicianship.
Love Rock, however, is a decidedly more mature sound for the band. After some really experimental and un-Guitar-Wolf-like stuff on Ufo Romantics, the band comes back with an album that's as loud and driving as their early stuff, with a fuller, more complex melodic sound. It's as if they've fulfilled the commercial and musical promise of Jet Generation without selling out any of the utter mayhem they strayed from with UFO Romantics.
Both albums are typical Narnack GW releases, with clumsily translated titles and lyrics, typos on the CD booklet, and other such flaws, but the label has promised limited edition LPs next year, with picture discs and cool inserts and stuff. And the Love Rock CD came with a heart shaped Love Rock pin.
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Originally posted by evan:
:laff: at Jeremy.
Yeah, it's pretty bad. The video's even worse, though. Now, he's spoofing things from 12 years ago! Pee-Wee Herman, Madonna's pointy boobs, MC Hammer, Michael Jackson....Eminem's really cutting edge now!
So you're basically saying that Eminem has become this guy? (http://www.weirdal.com/)
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Nah, Weird Al's an interesting musician. In fact, I'm listening to a lot of his newer stuff and enjoying it more than Eminem's newer stuff.
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Weird Al is cool. Remember "Bob"? That song was fucking brilliant. Every line was a palindrome, and it still rhymed.
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A Perfect Circle- eMOTIVe
Yeah so I’ve heard this album was getting mixed reviews, some good, some bad, but the only way to really know for sure is to listen to it yourself. But I’ll try to analyze it to some extent to explain what it sounds like.
It starts off with the simple yet interesting Crucifix cover, Annihilation. Maynard whispers with some simple keyboards and strings playing. It’s the kind of song that tells you that this is going to be an interesting album. Then comes Imagine- one of the better Lennon covers I think, though nothing amazing- followed by Nick Lowe’s Peace Love and Understanding, sung well by billy with nice soft guitar riffs here and there. Basically the same with What’s Going On; both are cool atmospheric songs with some surprises and hooks here and there.
Passive was originally the Tapeworm (Maynard, Trent Reznor, Danny Lohner, etc project) song “Vacant,” but now we’ve got it recorded and reworked here and there. I liked it, though it was a bit annoying because it reminded me of a little radio-friendly kind of song. But it does have some nice riffs. Gimme Gimme Gimme was sort of like a filler, bit weird, I didn’t like it much but it’s only one opinion. People are people I really didn’t like; also weird, and i felt they could’ve done the song much better than they had. Really the only track I think I’ll skip. Freedom Of Choice was cool, short but a good take on the original. Next was Fear’s Let’s Have A War- I think it was okay, nothing real special.
Counting Bodies Like Sheep To The Rhythm Of The War Drums… don’t really like it. It’s the second of two “original” songs on the record. It’s just really a remix of “Pet,” so it was kind of boring and somewhat annoying. Next up is When The Levee Breaks, possibly my favorite on the album. Billy sings it, and it’s another more atmospheric sounding song, very calm and soothing. Lastly is an a cappella of Fiddle And The Drum by Maynard and Billy. It’s really great, because you can hear how beautiful their voices are, and they go well together.
Overall, I’d say this album was pretty good for one that was put together in about a month. If you’re looking for solidness and real originality I suggest Mer De Noms or 13th Step instead. If you want to hear songs that really sound nothing like the originals and some nice ideas presented in new ways, then check this out. If you’re as big an APC fan as I am I would certainly reccomend it, but no guarantees. Some apc fans love it, others hate it, others like me have mixed feelings. I won’t score it out of ten because I’ve only listened a few times and by the circumstances it is not at all easy to judge.
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I downloaded APC's Imagine, and while they do definatly put their own certain something into it, it sucks.
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Imagine sucks anyway. I mean, it's fucking awful. How it manages to keep its critical reputation up is beyond me.
No, wait, it's not. Stoned undergraduates keep it afloat, and everybody likes it because they think they have to.
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Good point. It isn't really that great at all.
Unlike the three Beatles albums I've downloaded in full recently, Sgt. Pepper, Revolver and Magical Mystery Tour. They're awsome. I thought the Beatles were a crappy pop group who made crappy pop songs. Crikey. Especially Yellow Submarine. I thought it sucked - but no.
Also, the U2 album has leaked, and I'm currently downloading it. Heard the first minute or so of Miracle Drug, and its a lot better than Vertigo. While Vertigo isn't that bad, it has damn awful lyrics. Meh. Go download go.
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alex. Give the White Album or Abbey Road a listen. Both are fucking amazing.
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Also Rubber Soul
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I haven't heard Abbey Road (except the songs everyone knows), but I do know a fair bit off The White Album, though I'm yet to hear it in full. I plan on buying it, but it being a double album, it's always too damn expensive. I'll get Sgt. Pepper soon, but we do already own 2 LP copies of it (one was my dads, one my mums).
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canned eggs: I saw Rossa Ó Snodaigh of Kíla in Dublin today, apparently he gives out about stuff on a street corner in Temple Bar (Dublins cultural/nightlife area).
I didn't catch the start of his rant, but I think it had something to do with the English and national monuments... his audience was a bunch of scumbags (townies) and I had to go to a tango lesson, but next time I'm in I might give him a listen.
Anywhoo, I also got around to getting a few of their album samples off the kila.ie site, very good stuff, they seem a lot moe complex than your standard diddely-ey céol. They have a live album out now too.
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I gather it would be in character for him to stand on a soapbox on a street corner in Temple Bar and rant about national monuments as a joke. Sorry, did I say "joke"? I meant "performance art." Yeh.
Edit: Originally posted by Villa da Killa:
Also, the U2 album has leaked, and I'm currently downloading it. Heard the first minute or so of Miracle Drug, and its a lot better than Vertigo. While Vertigo isn't that bad, it has damn awful lyrics. Meh. Go download go.
My U2-head homeboy, after what must have been entire minutes of soulsearching, DL'ed it, too. Disclaimer: he's already preordered the boxed version of the commercial CD. Anyway, he gave me a burnt CD. I'm listening to it now. I'm not at all a serious U2 fan; I think they're collegiate softrock for people who don't take capital 'R' Rock as seriously as I do; but this is a damn fine album. Much harder rock than their egotistical stuff from most of the '90s, more so than their last album, and no fruity gimmicks. I mostly want to try and figure out just by ear which songs Steve Lilywhite produced, and which the other slacker did. Thumbs up.
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(http://i.walmart.com/i/p/00/70/93/04/35/0070930435472_150X150.jpg)
Social Distortion – Sex, Love and Rock ‘n Roll
After an eight year wait, I didn’t really know what to expect from Social D’s somewhat surprising and much anticipated new release. I knew there would be at least one classic song. From their first album to their last, there’s always one standout track that encompasses all that is good about Social Distortion. Lyrics, catchiness, guitar tone and aggression are all required elements for that criteria.
Throughout their uneven and inconsistent “mid-period” with albums like the major label debut self titled album, and the follow up release “Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell” they have dwelled a little too much on the Johnny Cash meets The Stones turned up to eleven style of rock balladry. I had lost a fair amount of my faith in their ability to rock out. Then the 1996 genre defining release “White Light, White Heat, White Trash”. It hit me like a ton of bricks and instantly became one of my top hard rock albums of the ‘90’s. It was angry, up tempo and solid from beginning to end, even with the Stones cover.
I saw them live at the Warped Tour in 1997, and all was well. In 2000, founding member, Dennis Danell died suddenly from a brain haemorrhage. Mike Ness immediately broke up Social D and concentrated on his increasingly successful solo efforts.
There it stood until I heard word on PEEL of all places, that the band was reformed and playing shows on California. I thought, man I hope they do another album. Over a year later, here it is.
The first song, “Reach For The Sky” filled all of the required elements for a classic Social D tune in about a minute and a half. I couldn’t have been happier with that signature sound. The thing is the next song and the one after that also had the goods. The great tunes just kept coming. The songwriting has matured and expanded. The tasteful addition of the Hammond organ to a few tunes really fits in well.
After listening to this album on a fairly regular basis for about two weeks, I can happily report it is just as good as White Light and ranks among the top rock albums so far in 00’s. I won’t go over this song by song as this is a review not an analysis.
Clocking in at just under 38 minutes, it gives us ten songs of optimism, love, heartbreak, self awareness, nostalgia and hope. Mike Ness’s writing, vocals and guitar playing are in top form. Frankly I’m kinda blown away by this album, just like I was 8 years ago. They are playing in my town on November 9. I’ll be front and center.
9/10
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
Edit: Originally posted by Villa da Killa:
Also, the U2 album has leaked, and I'm currently downloading it. Heard the first minute or so of Miracle Drug, and its a lot better than Vertigo. While Vertigo isn't that bad, it has damn awful lyrics. Meh. Go download go.
My U2-head homeboy, after what must have been entire minutes of soulsearching, DL'ed it, too. Disclaimer: he's already preordered the boxed version of the commercial CD. Anyway, he gave me a burnt CD. I'm listening to it now. I'm not at all a serious U2 fan; I think they're collegiate softrock for people who don't take capital 'R' Rock as seriously as I do; but this is a damn fine album. Much harder rock than their egotistical stuff from most of the '90s, more so than their last album, and no fruity gimmicks. I mostly want to try and figure out just by ear which songs Steve Lilywhite produced, and which the other slacker did. Thumbs up.
Downloaded the whole thing now, and have had a fair listen to the songs. Small breakdown:
Vertigo: 4/10
Miracle Drug: Best song for me so far. 9/10
Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own: 8/10
Love And Peace Or Else: 7/10
City Of Blinding Lights: 8/10
All Because Of You: 7/10
A Man And A Woman: 5/10
Crumbs From Your Table: 7/10
One Step Closer: 6/10
Original Of The Species (isn't it Origin Of The Species? Don't remember, that's what my mp3 says anyway): 7/10
Yahweh: 6/10
These ratings will change to, after all, I've had the songs for about 24 hours. It is a decent album though, but it isn't a 'classic' - it's no Joshua Tree. While it is less pop driven and far more rockier than All That You Can't Leave Behind, it is still a very 'safe' album. They weren't risking much by releasing it, which I guess is what possibly holds it back. Classic albums, such as OK Computer and Kid A, were groundbreaking, and this isn't. Still good though. I'll post more as I listen more.
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also on Lurrr's reccomendation I'm downloading Pain Of Salvation to see if I like 'em....
Did you have a listen then? What do you think?
Imagine sucks anyway. I mean, it's fucking awful. How it manages to keep its critical reputation up is beyond me.
It's about peace and love and you have to love it otherwise you are heartless and evil!
Personally, I would rather screw a donkey than listen to it again.
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i have to admit apc's versian is kinda bleh...a few songs off emotive are, but there are also some goodies too...like Levee *drool*
But i never liked the original Imagine anyway. apc's versian is better by far than the other covers i've heard though...
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If you asked me what is the most stunning CD of the year I would say "Pure" by Hayley Westenra. Her voice is truly gorgeous and the music on her CD is a fantastic mix of classic and popular music. Especially "Who painted the moon black" is my favorite song of the year but her remakes of "Wuthering Heights" (sounds exactly like the original by Kate Bush), "Bright Eyes" or "Across the Universe" are great too.
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
I mostly want to try and figure out just by ear which songs Steve Lilywhite produced, and which the other slacker did.
Shot in the dark, but just from listening, my guess is, Steve Lilywhite produced "Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own," "Love and Peace or Else," "All Because of You," "Yahweh," and possibly "One Step Closer." The others are whoever the other guy is.
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On another forum, I'm taking part in a Tape Loop. Whereby, there are eight forum members who circulate compilations (in a loop, until they get their own back).
I got my first one today, a great mix cd, if I say so myself. Diverse, featuring artists/tracks as different as: Beastie Boys, Madness' "Night Boat To Cairo", "Sloop John B" by The Beach Boys, loads of trippy-hoppy chillout music, plus a couple of comedy segues - like "The Gonk" from Shaun Of The Dead, and the guitar music from Look Around You, all mixed together in a DJ stylee, and linked by some groovey samples.
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I finally finished off my new U2 album review, for all to see.
U2 – How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb (2004)
(http://img35.exs.cx/img35/5044/abomb.jpg)
01. Vertigo
02. Miracle Drug
03. Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
04. Love And Peace Or Else
05. City Of Blinding Lights
06. All Because Of You
07. A Man And A Woman
08. Crumbs From Your Table
09. One Step Closer
10. Original Of The Species
11. Yahweh
When one of the biggest bands in the world releases a new album, there are always fireworks. People love it, people hate it and people say that they have ‘sold out’ and that ‘their older stuff is better’. It is either too similar to their previous works, or too experimental, or for some people, it is just more of a good thing. It is just what happens. And there are few bands bigger than U2, whose new album How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb will be dropped on the world on the 22nd of November.
A-Bomb is one of the most anticipated albums of the year, and fans of the band have been waiting for its release since 2000’s All That You Can’t Leave Behind, which was seen by some as the return of classic U2, but by others as a weak pop option for the band to take. Lead singer Bono has been promising us an all out attack of guitar on the album for the past few years. The crunching chords that have been missing on the past few albums are back. It is the sound of the last twenty-five years of U2 played into one eleven (or twelve for lucky UK residents, who get the bonus track Fast Cars) track disc.
No doubt you will have heard the first single off the album, Vertigo, which opens the LP. Released to radio in late September, it has been in heavy rotation all around the world, and broke online sales records for Apple’s iTunes music store. The song, though it lacks any real depth or meaning, is an all out guitar assault, and seems to be what Bono has been telling us about. It is loud, and the chords are crunching. While not U2’s best, it is a solid start to the album. Not every song can be Bad, anyway.
As soon as Vertigo ends, it goes into Miracle Drug. And Miracle Drug is stunning. Fans of The Joshua Tree’s With Or Without You will see the similarities but it is the differences that sets this song apart – it is as good as With Or Without You if not better. This is U2 at their very best, and anyone calling for them to hang up their guitars and end their career should be directed straight to this song. For a band to be able to write a song like this after 10 albums, they have to be something special.
Sometimes You Can’t Make It On Your Own is dedicated to Bono’s father who passed away three years ago. With soaring vocals and dream-like guitar sounds, this stiring ballad could be the next single.
Love And Peace Or Else starts of with a minute of bassy feedback sounds collated with a few other random sounds, but the entrance of a very bluesy vocal track turns this song into one of the biggest rockers on the album, with a good guitar line again delivered by the Edge. A solid song stuck in the difficult position on the album after two of the most immediate songs in Miracle Drug and Sometimes You Can’t Make It On Your Own.
Already a fan favourite thanks to a poor quality clip of this song when it was played to the lucky few who saw the band perform Vertigo on Top Of The Pops doing the rounds on the internet, City Of Blinding Lights doesn’t disappoint on the album at all, and is again up there with U2’s best songs. Touted by some as a better song than Where The Streets Have No Name, which has been a probably the most outstanding track from the past five tours, this song is sure to be one of the best live songs off the new album, and may well be played for many years and on many tours to come.
Perhaps a better choice for the album’s first single would have been All Because Of You, it has the guitar sound promised and that the band was looking for, but is far superior in quality as a song to Vertigo. All Because Of You is one hell of a rock song, and is also lyrically better then Vertigo.
The second half of an album is usually what separates it from other good albums to be a great album. Albums with a strong second half are set apart from albums with stunning first halves, but weaker second halves. It is what makes a classic record – the lack of any weak track. U2 failed with All That You Can’t Leave Behind, which has a far stronger first half than second half, and many were interested to see what would happen on this record with that in mind.
A Man And A Woman is a cheesy song, with cheesy lyrics, a cheesy name and a cheesy guitar line. Some may like it, but it doesn’t fit into the overall feel of the album at all. It is a significant let down from the first six songs.
Crumbs From Your Table is a relief from the last song, and a surprise gem here. If not released as a single, it could be a hidden fan favourite and one of the most requested to be played on tour.
One Step Closer is the only slow and downbeat song on the album, and while it isn’t one of the top tunes on it, it is needed for the overall feel and atmosphere. There is nothing overtly wrong with it, but it lacks the special U2 touch that can change a song, such as The First Time from the band’s 1993 record Zooropa.
Original Of The Species is the best song on the second half of the record, let down by some dubious scat singing by Bono towards the end. He makes up for it through the rest of the song though, as his voice makes this song. Reliant on piano more than guitar, it is a pleasant switch, and has an orchestral sound to it, adding to its intensity and impact.
The last few U2 albums have ended on a religious note, and A-Bomb continues the trend with Yahweh. Slightly more upbeat than most expected, it is reminiscent of the material on All That You Can’t Leave Behind, Walk On in particular. It could be used to close the shows as it does the album, as Walk On closed shows on the 2001 Elevation Tour.
This album isn’t groundbreaking and it isn’t a classic. It was a safe option for U2 to take, but it is far from the pop-guided album All That You Can’t Leave Behind was. It isn’t the ‘mother of all rock albums’, it isn’t a classic album that will never tire, it isn’t U2’s best album and it probably isn’t the album of the year with very good competition from The Streets and Brian Wilson, among others. But it is still U2, and it is still very, very good.
Score: 7.5/10
If I didn't fuck up the UBB code somewhere in there, it will be a miracle.
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Charlotte Hatherley - Grey Will Fade[/u]
(http://members.lycos.co.uk/melllvar/greywillfade.jpg)
1) Kim Wilde
2) Rescue Plan
3) Paragon
4) Summer
5) Down
6) Stop
7) Where I'm Coming From
8) Why You Wanna?
9) Bastardo
10) Grey Will Fade
I mentioned this in the Favourite Albums 2004 thread. So, I thought I'd review it.
I'm in love with Charlotte Hatherley. For me, she made Ash into an interesting band again. So, when the news of her first solo release came about, I was excited.
...and it doesn't disappoint.
It's not like an Ash record, for starters, there's an abundance of odd-time signatures in there. The music is lighter, it's got a bit of pub-rock piano in there (see Summer), and she's not afraid of using "oohs" and "waahs" where necessary.
However, it's not until the final three songs of the album does it sink in. I particularly like Bastardo, the ode to the spanish one-night-stand who mistook her for a prostitute and stole her guitar.
Overall, excellent. Charlotte can sing me to sleep anyday.
8/10
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It's been a while since I did a new review.
As The Sun Sets - 7744 (http://www.kickedintheface.com/reviews/As_The_Sun_Sets-7744.htm)
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Double post for a bump.
This is some of the most insane stuff I've ever heard. (http://www.myspace.com/sleepterror)
Spiff, I suggest you give it a listen.
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Hmmm... I'm hearing both Morbid Angel and general hardcore influences. None too shabby.
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They do sound pretty cool. A bit too metal-ish for me, but they're still damn cool.
Oh, and their drummer is extremely good.
Here's something you should listen to: Electra Complex (http://www.minusonline.net/music/minus05electracomplex.mp3) by Mìnus. I mentioned them already, but didn't have the chance to send it to you. It turns out that they've put it online again, so that's the faster option.
Sick hardcore from Iceland, oh yeah.
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Bah. You go around saying I have great taste in music and then half the time I try to recommend something to you, it's too metal. I can't win.
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That has to be a drum machine on that Sleep Terror stuff.
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I listened to the first song Probing Tranquility, it was pretty cool. I liked the Guitar Riffs and the Drumming was excellent.
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
That has to be a drum machine on that Sleep Terror stuff.
That's what it sounded like to me. Someone linked this on Into The Moat's message board. The vocalist commented saying it was either a drum machine or just poor triggering.
Either way, I think it sounds pretty cool.
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Even if it is a drum machine it was still cool stuff you posted, Lamp.
TOTPD
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Why would it be a drum machine? You're not talking about the speed, are you?
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No. It just sounds too precise. I've heard drums that fast without a machine, but they weren't that neat, that's for sure. The snare also has kind of a tinny sound, like someone beating the top of a tin garbage can. That's a good sign.
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Also, there's hi-hat with no interruption in the double bass roll. That's a clue. Unless the drummer has three legs.
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident:
Bah. You go around saying I have great taste in music and then half the time I try to recommend something to you, it's too metal. I can't win.
Hey, I'm just posting my opinion. Plus I like lots of the bands you recommended, off the top of my head I can already name Daughters, Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza, Ion Dissonance, Into The Moat, The Abodox and so on.
Never mind some of the bands I knew before that you like, such as DEP or Spazz or Anal Cunt.
But if you don't like the term "too metal", let's put it like that: The guitars are shredding too often for me there, instead of cranking out really dischordal stuff, the drums are splash-heavy, which I don't like as much and the jazzy parts, which are awesome, are somewhat underrepresented.
Oh, also, as for two-man bands, I have another one consisting of only a drummer and a guy playing bass: Ruins (http://epitonic.com/artists/ruins.html).
They're a bit like Lightning Bolt, only with added spazzy parts and lots of mathy stop-and-go stuff.
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Just picked up this fantastic album:
Jet, 'Get Born'
(http://img139.exs.cx/img139/995/jetgetborn2762873ip.jpg)
I've always liked Jet, but I finally decided to buy their CD instead of pirating MP3s. This is an amazing album and it really showcases their versatility. From harder songs like "Cold Hard Bitch" to beautiful songs like "Look what you've done" this band really shines. They remind me of a cross between the Beatles and The Ramones. And THAT my friends is not a bad thing.
9.5 out of 10
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I thought you were cool...
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Originally posted by SpacemanSpiff:
Hey, I'm just posting my opinion. Plus I like lots of the bands you recommended, off the top of my head I can already name Daughters, Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza, Ion Dissonance, Into The Moat, The Abodox and so on.
Never mind some of the bands I knew before that you like, such as DEP or Spazz or Anal Cunt.
Can you or Lampy post links to those bands stuff? I would like to hear how they are.
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I will warn you. The songs you heard didn't have vocals. The vocals put a lot of people off to this kind of music, and it's a shame too because I think they're awesome.
Into The Moat - Dead Before I Stray (http://www.intothemoat.com/dead%20before%20i%20stray.mp3)
New one hosted on their website. Just a sample for now.
Edit: More legitimately hosted mp3s.
Daughters stuff (http://www.wearedaughters.com/index2.php)
Go to the media page. They have a new mp3 called Boner X-Ray, then at the bottom, there's a media player that lets you listen to Canada Songs(all ten tracks in full!)
Lightning Bolt - 13 Monsters (http://www.loadrecords.com/sound/sample.mp3)
This is good stuff.
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Good stuff, Lampy. I enjoyed it, the riffs and drumming was excellent so I'm expecting more stuff.
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Originally posted by Lurrr:
Did you have a listen then? What do you think?
They're ok, didn't really pull me in though....
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Velvet Revolver - Contraband
(http://img101.exs.cx/img101/5301/163602m.jpg)
1. Sucker Train For Blues
2. Do It For The Kids
3. Big Machine *
4. Illegal
5. Spectacle
6. Fall To Pieces
7. Headspace
8. Superhuman
9. Set Me Free
10. You Got No Right
11. Slither *
12. Dirty Little Thing
13. Loving The Alien (standard Rock ballad here!)
14. Bodies (UK Bonus Track)
The remnants of Guns N Roses make some Guns N Roses type stuff under a new name, hooray!
I like it so far (all two days of it), but some of the songs could be deceptionally catchy and I might hate them later (I'm looking at you, Jet)
Nothing really stands out on this album so far, more later (maybe).
* Tracks I thought were good.
C+
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I found something funny on Amazon- a review by of DEP's Miss Machine:
Originally posted at Amazon.com by Musicfan:
2 of 20 people found the following review helpful:
( * _ _ _ _ ) WTF??, December 10, 2004
Reviewer: Musicfan - See all my reviews
This just plain sucks. I mean..honestly? WHo wants to listen to someone who can't play guitar worth a damn so he just hits random notes on a guitar? And who wants to her some guy scream when his voice sucks and doesnt even match the music. If I could give this 0 stars. I would.
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With such a rational review in mind, I think I'll never go out and get this album...
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Speaking as a rational person, I recommend that you don't get it either. It's just not the same band anymore. They should have changed their name when they got the new singer.
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I know it's not the same, but being a mostly ratioanl person, would you call this album review rational? Read the reviews of all math bands on Amazon and you'll be sure to find lots of these reviews.
Still, I think I should get the album, though not before I hear better samples than those at Amazon. They have a nasty habit of cutting the samples off just before the exciting parts start, so I rarely listen to those at all.
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@Faze, personally I love the Velvet Revolver album, it's not anything new, but has got some great riffs, licks and chops on it.
I'm going to see them on Sunday.
Also:
http://www.musicplasma.com (http://www.musicplasma.com)
This site rocks, it's like "sex degrees of separation" for bands. Basically it shows all bands who are generically linked. Will be good for getting into new music.
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Personally the Velvet Revolver album didn't grab me enough to get it, however I did buy the 'Fall to Pieces' single. That's an awesome song :cool:...
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I was going to see them in Dublin last night BUT:
- my friend was only able to get seating tickets,
- there was a guy going I can't stand,
- and I hadn't even heard any of their songs...
Three reasons for not showing up!
Anyway, my friend said they were ok, but they were no Lynyrd Skynyrd/Deep Purple.
Best. Concert. Ever.
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Originally posted by Pikka Bird:
I know it's not the same, but being a mostly ratioanl person, would you call this album review rational? Read the reviews of all math bands on Amazon and you'll be sure to find lots of these reviews.
Still, I think I should get the album, though not before I hear better samples than those at Amazon. They have a nasty habit of cutting the samples off just before the exciting parts start, so I rarely listen to those at all.
Don't bother. It's depressing. And not in a good way.
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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
they were ok, but they were no Lynyrd Skynyrd/Deep Purple.
Best. Concert. Ever.
Yeah, ten years before you were born.
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I listened to the Miss Machine album and I agree with people who think they've changed for the worse. The new vocalist sounds like every mallcore lead guy ever, and the production has been mangled. I mean, why would you want to push the frantic guitarwork (and most other instruments) in the background?
Hil: I didn't know you were into DEP... Sweeet.
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1) You cannot put actual singing in technical hardcore.
2) You cannot be a technical hardcore band and start sounding like Nine Inch Nails.
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Some new 2005 music...
I've heard one of the new Bright Eyes, Digital Ash In The Digital Urn, and it's great. Very... Bright Eye-ish. The new New Order single, Krafty, is good too, and I'm looking forward to hearing the rest of that album. Daft Punk's new single Robot Rock is boring and repetitive. Black And White Town from Doves is great; if that album is even half as good as the previous two Doves albums it will be a great album. The leaked material from Beck is all excellent, and it isn't even the final recordings for his album which comes out in March.
2005 will be a great year in music...
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Another review from me.
Backstabbers Inc. - Theory/History 7" (http://www.kickedintheface.com/reviews/Backstabbers_Inc-Theory_History.htm)
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I been listening to the Wild Zero soundtrack obsessively lately. It rocks. I think everyone should have to listen to it once in their life to find out what Rock & Roll is all about. It's got a lot of Guitar Wolf on it, of course, and some other Japanese stuff, some of which I've never even heard of, but there's a lot of good ol' American early '90s garage punk on there, too. Lots of bands off Crypt or Sympathy for the Record Industry, two worthwhile labels. Notable is the preponderance of songs by the Vikings, the Devil Dogs, Oblivians, Dick Dale, the Zeros, and the inclusion of The Kids' magnificent "This is Rock 'N' Roll." Although the sappy Greg Oblivian ballads get old fast ("Bad Man" excepted), the only annoying song in the movie, Bikini Kill's "Rebel Girl," is not on the soundtrack. There is indeed a merciful deity in Heaven, and he loves the Rock & Roll.
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(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000JH89.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
Weird Al: Running With Scissors
OK, I've had this CD for years, but I figured that I'd review it anyway.
In my opinion, this is Weird Al at his finest. The songs--from the Star Wars story of "The Saga Begins" to the rambling tale of love and sauerkraut that is "Albuquerque", Running With Scissors is simply hilarious.
Many of the songs are parodies, but some songs, such as "My Baby's In Love With Eddie Vedder" and "Your Horoscope For Today", are originals. All of them are funny, however. (And just in care you were wondering, there is indeed a song about food.)
5/5
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Originally posted by alexvilagosh:
2005 will be a great year in music...
It seems to suck for me so far. Two local bands were supposed to play their last show on Saturday(but didn't because of the blizzard), another band's vocalist quit, and another band I listen to had a vocalist and drummer quit last year and they're jamming with a new drummer and possibly playing under the same name. I can only hope something good and new surfaces.
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I'm stoked because Guitar Wolf is touring. Life don't get much better than that. Plus I'm going to see Flogging Molly on Sunday. No good albums coming out, though.
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Originally posted by alexvilagosh:
I've heard one of the new Bright Eyes, Digital Ash In The Digital Urn, and it's great. Very... Bright Eye-ish.
Bright eyes rule. :D I've heard two songs from Digital Ash. Can't wait to get that cd and the other one.(I'm probaly going to get them when they comes out tommorow or later this week.)
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Eggs, I'm listening to some Guitar Wolf stuff now...how you can listen to it so much is beyond me. There is way too much hiss and feedback in this crap for me to tolerate.
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You're not listening to it loud enough.
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Eggs, speaking of Guitar Wolf, I got my hands on some of their songs, I definitely like them.
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
You're not listening to it loud enough.
Wait, there's a way to listen to Guitar Wolf other than listening to it at full volume? The CDs are already recorded way too loud, it must be pretty hard to find that setting.
Also, ever heard of Electrical Eel Shock? They're another great band from Japan. Imagine Guitar Wolf suddenly learnt how to play their instruments and dropped the excessive overuse of feedback and replaced it with even more badass rock'n'roll attitude, a love for fishing and crazy lyrics. That's about it.
Oh, their lyrics are especially cool.
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Moo from Red:Shift champions Electric Eel Shock, wearing their Double-Peace T-shift at gigs. I'm yet to hear them, but if Moo's anything to go by, they're cool.
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Electric Eel Shock fucking rock. They're not part of Guitar Wolf's scene, but they're funny as hell. I got into them, as usual, right after they last came to the US, and they don't plan on coming back for a while. Crap. I want to see them live.
And Lampy, if you don't like Guitar Wolf's overdrive hiss, their later stuff has some of it taken out in the production. But just as much feedback.
The story about Jet Generation is that it ships with a warning label because Matador wanted to put a song on an in-store sampler disc, and the sound engineer they hired to put the disc together called them back to tell them that the source volume on the track exceeded the theoretical maximum for CD audio.
Edit: GOD DAMN am I glad you guys mentioned EES. I went to their website to see what's up, because I hadn't thought about them in a couple months. Turns out they're playing SF February 16th at the same club Guitar Wolf is playing a month later. Rock & Roll!!!!!
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2005 just got a thousand times better (as far as music goes).
The Doves album is awesome. Very very very awesome. Better than the last two Doves albums. The best album I've heard since British Sea Power. After a few listens I give it an A+, that could well change though.
The Bravery's debut album is very good too. If you like Franz or The Strokes check them out... I actually like it better than either of their two debuts.
*drools*
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The Hellacopters - Strikes Like Lightning
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0006DVB8G.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg)
1. Turn The Wrong Key
2. Take Me On
3. A View From Nowhere
4. Blinded By The Light
5. Fiends And Frankensteins
6. On The Line
This is the Hellacopters' new EP I downloaded yesterday because the bastards won't release it in the US. It's just six songs, but it's all we got to hold us over until the next album they're supposed to record this spring. So what's it like? Well, if you can consider the Hellacopters' career to be a progression from their Misfits-style grindy garage-punk original stuff toward some sort of glam-rock heaven populated by Kiss and Thin Lizzy, this is the natural next step after By the Grace Of God. It's incrementally mellower, incrementally more '80s, and entirely awesome.
None of the songs are actually ballads, which they've been doing for a couple years, but "Turn the Wrong Key" and "A View From Nowhere" and "Blinded by the Light" are the sort of poignant bop-style rockers they've been doing the last three albums. They mix it up with "Take Me On," some Fastway-style metal, "On the Line," which sounds like Thin Lizzy wrote it, and "Fiends and Frankensteins," which wouldn't have been out of place on some of their earlier albums.
It's "Blinded by the Light" that sticks in my head the most so far, after just a few (dozen) listens. Real driving rhythm from the first second to the last, and a real catchy hook. This one reaches the heights.
The production's not as impressive as on Grace of God, but then I've only heard mp3s so far. The bass and drums sound a bit muffled, but they sound awfully clean, and the playing is especially good. And as always, the guitar playing really fuckin' wails. They have a more "glittery" midrange sound than they have before, accentuating the late '70s/early '80s glam rock sound. The Hellacopters have always loved the tambourine, and if anything there's more tambourine than ever on these tracks. Combine that with the boogie piano tastefully in the background, and the Hellacopters have really developed a sound that combines everything great about Rock & Roll since its invention.
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canned eggs: all rights reserved, all wrongs reversed.
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Kira And The Kindred Spirits - This Is Not An Exit:
This is the long awaited follow-up to Kira And The Kindred Spirits' 2002 debut, Happiness Saves Lives (Which I did a review on here) (http://www.peelified.com/cgi-bin/Futurama/12-000457-13/#481) and it doesn't take a whole lot of analyzing to figure out that they've grown. Kira has been taking a more traditional approach to songwriting, which impacts on the way the chorus relates to the rest of the song. In some ways this is a good thing, and in some ways it isn't. As a whole, it makes each song seem more solid, but it also takes away some of the surprises that the songs on the last album had built into them. Musically, they stay the course, only in a much better way, since the band has been tried and tested on the stage during the last two and a half years, and now they're incorporating some of the things that make the live performances stand out. Unlike last time I reviewed this band, I think I have some guidelines to describe their style- Blues rock, rock n' roll and garage rock, all mixed up, and that's about as close as you'll get, I think (don't hold me to it, I am no genre-nazi).
The songs are still crafted around the voice, and with good reason, because I can only say... what a voice! It is still the same unmistakable Kira Skov voice, dirty, raw and strong, but vulnerable and intimitely honest at the same time. But although the voice carries the song, nothing can be spared, once you have heard the dynamics of the final, fully arranged songs. You may call "earcandy" on some of the tiny details, but if you were to remove those details, the song would appear sketchy and possibly repetitive.
Overall score: 95% (Same score as the last one, maybe partially because I've only listened to it in detail twice and so far, it seems like I will like one or the other better based only on my mood at any given time) Buy it!
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Has anyone else heard the upcoming Mars Volta single "The Widow"? I hate to say this, but I'm a bit worried about the whole ordeal. While I really really liked De-Loused in the Comatorium, there's something about this new project that rubs me the wrong way. The new single is almost too proggie for my tastes, and Bixler's vocals are almost high and grating. Usually I'm up for that, but now...I dunno. It also didn't help that the video (when I first heard of the single) looked cheesy and awful.
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Bright Eyes: Digital Ash in a Digital Urn
01. Time Code
02. Gold Mine Gutted
03. Arc of Time
04. Down in a Rabbit Hole
05. Take It Easy (Love Nothing)
06. Hit the Switch
07. I Believe in Symmetry
08. Devil In The Details
09. Ship in a Bottle
10. Light Pollution
11. Theme From Piñata
12. Easy/Lucky/Free
Very catchy CD with amazing lyrics. I've been listening to it since I got it.All the song are really great, my favorite on the disc is "I believe in Symmetry" followed by "Take it Easy(Love Nothing)"
5/5
I'll probaly review the other new one ..... once I buy it ...
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The other one is better, too...
Hot dammit, TOTP. And I can't be bothered going back to quote the post I was replying to.
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I heard that the "digital" cd wasn't as strong as the "folk" cd. Is this true? I'm sorta new to the whole Connor Oberst cult thing, so would these two be a good introduction to him?