Futurama Feedbag
Crustacean
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« on: 06-02-2001 08:46 »
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You may have already visited this from the hip joint but I'll post it here anyway. [edited by marc] sorry, not here You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this BB to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law. [This message has been edited by [-mArc-] (edited 06-02-2001).]
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Futurama Feedbag
Crustacean
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I didn't post any material which was any of those things. All I did was post a link to my site, I didn't actually post anything offensive so why do you have to edit everything like a hyper neo nazi. Read your own message again mArc, it said nothing about not been allowed to post links.
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[-mArc-]
Administrator
Liquid Emperor
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1st: i consider a direct link to that as material. so do more and more governments and legislatures.
2nd: this is a moderated board. moderators decide what is ok for peel and what isnt. It also states in the sign up agreement that you are fine with us editing whatever we want to edit for no reason at all.
3rd: just because other sites allow that content doesnt mean we have to, too. If i lose some visitors cause they feel they are in desperate need to post porn links, fine, getting rid of those will help the overall climate on the long run IMHO.
4th: im for predictive moderation, thats why i didnt just delete the post and ban your subnet. So, again: 0-tolerance for download questions, extended personal insults (if you have to flame, flame me, i can handle that, but i would ask you to use my email address for that) and for stuff clearly not suitable for minors like gore, pokemon and porn, and that includes toon penetrations.
5th: calling a german a nazi for his actions will make him laugh at you for he knows that you have no points.
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Futurama Feedbag
Crustacean
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Sick private life? My site was intended as a joke and not to be taken seriously, its not like I jerk off to cartoon porn, I just find it funny.
I didn't even know you were german mArc, calling you a hyper neo nazi is just an expression I use for people who try to censor everything, so don't take it personally.
[This message has been edited by Futurama Feedbag (edited 06-02-2001).]
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[-mArc-]
Administrator
Liquid Emperor
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i like to call it topic narrowing, sounds cooler anyway, censorship is the attempt of a (country's) administration to stop unwanted information to be published in advance by controlling and restricting distribution channels. so, censorship is just the wrong word for moderating, but i know what you meant. Views on free speech differ. mine is pretty much compliant with the german Constitution's view on it. §5 of the Basic Laws: 2. The right of free speech is limited by general laws, laws to protect the youth and the right on personal honesty. Maybe I contradict some US american views on free speech with that... In a ideal society, i would propagate free speech without limit. Seeing that things arent that ideal, I really can't say that I want everyone to be able to influence young people.
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]PaulFSAC[
Professor
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It comes down to each person's opinion of what is acceptable and what isn't. The site certainly unique, but advertising it on a Message Board where people of all ages can go and look is morally wrong (in my opinion). I'm agree with [-mArc-] in principle as it goes against the terms and conditions, but in the long run it was only a link, and that doesn't enhance Freedom Of Choice too much (and yes I've contradicted myself)
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[-mArc-]
Administrator
Liquid Emperor
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ups velour, i seem to have deleted one of your double posts while you deleted the other, but here it is (boy, I'm so gonna be in a world of pain for this ...): Originally posted by [-mArc-]: I disagree on the "just a link" bit. what it was, is an advertisement for a porn site. A lot of websites choose not to allow these types of ads on their site. And I think that if peel is going to sink to that level, we should at least be getting paid. no one has been oppressed here. If there was a censorship issue, then they guy would be blocked and possibly drug out into the street and shot. There would be no discussion. If you can accpet the "no download" talk with (minimal) resistance, I don't see why this sick issue has caused so much protest. You want futurama porn? He said it was cross posted on the hip joint. If you are of the age where you enjoy porn then I am sure you are also smart enough to be able to go and figure out how to get it.
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Futurama Feedbag
Crustacean
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Not all 12 year olds can year my site. Some people have emailed me cos they can't see the site due to blockers on their net access. Anyway I’m not making a big thing of this, I just thought that a link wasn’t material so I didn’t think I was breaking any agreement. Several months ago I posted a link to this site and it was allowed, so when did the moral standards of this board suddenly rise, was someone else moderating then?
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MrLarry
Crustacean
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Yeah mArc, I give you props for that You've done a great job with the board, finding the time to do all the things that Andie and I never could when it was on CGEF. You're absolutely right. It's not that we tolerated such things back then, but rather, most of the time we were too busy maintaining the site to even notice. That's the same reason why I took down the interactive story section.. because lots of people were posting material I deemed inappropriate, but didn't have time to filter out. As far as I'm concerned, you're the best moderator that PEEL has ever had! [This message has been edited by MrLarry (edited 06-04-2001).]
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