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Allen
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To try and understand Fox is to go insane. I truly don't understand the mind of a soulless corporation. Fox owns the rights to Futurama and so long as they can make a profit, they will shut down sites that make videoclips, soundwaves, and framegrabs available. Most C&Ds seem to be form letters sent to everyone. They won't say what they're specifically after most times. Nobody wants you to have anything for free. They want your money. That's why sites like Nappster are shut down.
But they always "appreciate" your interest in the show.
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Since they killed the show, and their own website is utter crap, I fail to see how fansites could ever harm FOX profits. If they had their own kickass fansite, with pictures, sounds, merchandise links, FOX Futurama Shop, etc. I might see their point. But as it stands I can't see how a simple fanbuilt site, with fanart, fanfics and other show-related, yet fanmade, stuff can damage them. Are they trying to tell us they care for the show?
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SQFreak
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Well, from my perspective, the MPAA has no authority to be sending the C&D letters. They're acting on behalf of Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation, which does NOT own the rights to Futurama (Twentieth Century Fox Television and The Curiosity Company do in a joint). So there's no authority for the C&D. If someone gets one, try that strategy to get it away.
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Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Jon tried, they still managed to shut his site down for a week or so. Hosters cave so easily to legal mumble-jumble it's not even funny.
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]PaulFSAC[
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Some sites seem to get more than one and keep running, while others "cave in" and disappear which is a shame, Futurama needs all the sites it can get.
Personally, I'm hoping Anders of PE.DK will make a stunning return to the Futurama Arena.
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Strat
Bending Unit
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« Reply #8 on: 05-28-2003 15:45 »
« Last Edit on: 05-28-2003 15:45 »
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I've a theory about Fox Lawyers, and it stems from Steinbeck's 'Of Mice and Men.' See, the lawyers just love the fans and their sites sooo much, they just want to love them and stroke them and hold them. They try and send sweet, loving words that communicate their grand affection. The problem is they try so hard it just comes of as "copyright infringement" and the word "illegal" is mentioned 87 or so times. But they love us, they really do. And the only solution is to shoot them in the back of head for the benefit of humanity edit: fixed because SQ points out my numerous faults!
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SQFreak
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Originally posted by Strat: I've a theory about Fox Lawyers, and it stems from Steinbeck's 'Of Mice and Men.'
See, the lawyers just love the fans and their sites sooo much, they just want to love them and stroke them and hold them. They try and send sweet, loving words that communicate their grand affection. The problem is they two so hard it just comes of as "copyright infringement" and the word "illegal" is mentioned 87 or so times.
But they love us, they really do. And the only solution is to shoot them in the back of head for the benefit of humanity That made no sense. Then again, I haven't read Of Mice and Men. And how do you "two so hard"?
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Anarchist
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That was a sad, sad book. The analogy fits, though; this is a sad, sad story.
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Spice Weasel
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It'a all about copyrights. They own the copyrights to the characters, names, logos and the ever popular and jealously guarded "intellectual properties"
The latter is so vague that it can be construed, if your last name just so happens to be "Fry", technically you are in copyright violation.
They will not stop persuing sites that infringe on their copyrights by posting pictures, writng stories or using sounds, images, graphics etc. in relation to their "Property"
It makes absolutely no difference to them if the violators, ie: you and me are good, bad or indifferent.
It's the very idea of using the copyrighted material, period.
That is something nobody can get around. As Ted Turner once said in answer to a purists question about his colorization of classic movies. I have one thing you don't, a reciept of ownership. In other words, it's mine and I can do whatever the hell I want with it.
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Sil
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I have a question - has this site had any complaints from the network?
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Unca Dave
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For information regarding US copyright law and what constitutes "fair use", go to the feds' own site at http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html. It makes for some rather interesting reading, although it's about as understandable as Swahili transliterated to Linear A!
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ooy
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have you ever thought fox loyers(SPELLING?) are waching us?????
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Sil
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What are you talking about! I loved Of Mice and Men. It's one of my all-time favourite books. It's so saaaaaad :'(
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Helpy McHelphelp
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Originally posted by mazaite: I was under the impression that The Outlet was killed by Cashus non havus and not C&D. Due to the fact that it costs some real money to run a site with that kind of bandwith.
Plus the pain in the ass it would've been to restore the content. It was the Futurama Chronicles that was C&D'ed into oblivion by FOX.
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Nefnar
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I dont know what FOX is going to do when the Simpson are over. They are going to die!!
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Killerfox
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FOX makes no sence as simple as that but not good
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Nurdbot
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After reading this, my hate for FOX went up a notch.
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