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bart182
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good thing cgef is down at the moment...
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Smitty
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Another site falls to the wrath of Fox.
They could have just said it was a parody.
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Damn those FOX lawyers and their C&D letters. Planet Express was a good site, with a cool design. This sucks.
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Nurdbot
DOOP Secretary
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Thank god the Outlet died a Natural net death.
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]PaulFSAC[
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It's a pity Anders gave up so easily, since another website is still going (not mine), despite at least 2 C&D's to it's name.
Hope Anders brings back the site in another form like he mentioned, it may not be exactly what is was, but it should still be a good one, it (PE) had the uniquest feature going in the Futurama realm, pick your own skin.
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Loki
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What was that 'illegal stuff'?
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
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C&D means "Cease & Desist", and are legal letters mailed by FOX lawyers to shut down fansites (not exclusively a FOX thing, but that's how we know them). The letters ask websites administrators to remove copyrighted material, and doesn't as such ask for the site to be closed. The problem is that by following FOX's interpretation of "copyrighted material" websites will be left with very little, if any, content. Read more about C&D letters here (includes a C&D letter sent to TLZ). A little quote from the TLZ C&D: Fox tries to support its fans whenever possible. However, after reviewing your web site we must request that you remove all audio clips, video clips, sequentially arranged framegrabs, wallpaper, screensavers, games, desktop themes, calendars, episode guides and episode transcripts relating to "Futurama," from your web site as soon as possible. And this would leave TLZ with what? Fanart and fanfics, and FOX even trying to claim those as copyright infringement too. Your interest in "Futurama" is most appreciated. Fox will continue to do its best to bring you quality entertainment. Who said FOX didn't have a sense of humor?
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Anarchist
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What I don't understand is why everyone takes these C&D letters so seriously. Reply with a nice one-word e-mail: "No." Then switch webspace providers. Sending spooky letters is one thing, but do you honestly think they have the time, money, and energy to actually take serious legal action? I really doubt they'd bother with that. God didn't just send you an e-mail telling you to shut down your site, it was just those losers at FOX. Don't let spooky words scare you. "We will take legal action" is a hollow threat and the new catchphrase among empty suits with too much free time on their hands.
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Smitty
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I'm quite surprised SNPP is still going after all these years. Surely Fox have noticed it by now. How many C&D letters do they have to their name?
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Anarchist
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I fail to see the reasoning in shutting down an entire site because of 4 comics, even if you do for some odd reason respect FOX's claims. They don't deserve shows like Futurama to their name.
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Anarchist
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Absolutely. What I meant was, why shut down the entire site rather than issue a strong warning saying "remove the comic scans" and then promptly shut down the site if the webmaster doesn't comply? It's not like it was a wAReZ SiTe or something.
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The Knux Bender
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Exactly Fred.
If things like downloading frame grabs and downloading episodes are commonly discussed - then this site is as good as dead.
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
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« Reply #35 on: 04-27-2003 04:22 »
« Last Edit on: 04-27-2003 04:22 »
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Originally posted by The Knux Bender: Exactly Fred.
If things like downloading frame grabs and downloading episodes are commonly discussed - then this site is as good as dead. I agree on the episodes thing, but I fail to see how framegrabs can hurt the show. It's not like they reveal any of the jokes, and only overall plotlines can be grasped from them. You (not aimed at you Knux Bender, but used as a general reference) would have to be a poor fan if you would rather see a series of framegrabs, rather than watch the episodes. Also why are they going after wallpapers (and at one point they included fanart as well), how can it hurt their income that I have a sexy wallpaper of Leela on my PC? If anything it would remind me of the show everytime I start the computer, and porbably would make me buy more merchandise. I guess FOX just really hates Futurama promotion.
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Anarchist
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Originally posted by getak2003: I am going to make my own site, with blackjack popups, and hooker links, and nasty futurama pictures! Actually, blackjack, hookers, and cartoon porn are all very profitable venues on the Internet.
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