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spacetimebird

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« : 07-04-2020 03:20 »

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 ⟨(ѻ⟩)    hello humans!

Short words long, I'd like to make comic strips based on futurama screencaps from key scenes of episodes and write contemporary relations/news/education around it as shortstories. For example the episode with frys guineapig would be extremely great to explain and communicate the covid19 situation, its complexity and behavioral constraints. They are very difficult to visualize, understand and difficult to learn for children. I think if we use futurama picture / story telling to share information / education - the kids would very much profit.
I think they'll have a very good learning effect by associating the funny/new things with their own actions. If they first learn the backgrounds with frame-by-frame storytelling, and hence start to form events about the story in their mind, watching the episodes afterwards will help very much to deepen/strenghten the memory about the implications/perspectives.
This way they could visualize the complex implications easier and the scope for this is exceptional. We can teach about racism, neglectence, drugs, fake news (the earth invasion theatre bob barker?), the influence of VR, the dangers of robotics...
There are so much more options, and as the dubbing is there and hence easy to translate, it could be communicated quiete simple to development countries as well. They need something like that. covid ist just starting there. They need fun.. and knowledge. If we cannot send them food or meds, lets please work together to send them education and smiles. futurama is more on time then ever; respectively humans finally catch up.
If you like we can also make remixes of the tracks to modernize/de-musicalize them and actualize lyrics. you can find my chirping on soundcloud as here. I cannot work alone but in team i would be motivated to remix the original tracks, maybe someone of you can sing or knows someone.
So naturally, I'll take all legal consequences etc. we should have an empire within 2 or 3 months. we'll use all income for an open company concept which only invests in bringing more futurama along. Everyone working on the project will get compensation as far its possible, but any money will only go into creating new futurama perceptions and expand their translations for covid19 edu primarily, and if that one episode/booklet succeeds it might go spark. If not no harm done. I have slurm.bar (offline yet) and we can make a kickstart for a green sweet viscous drink which has high protein, calory and vitamine additives. If we allocate fandom and act transparently humane, we can withstand or even cooperate with the branding and corporation issues.
I really need experienced reporter for the official futurama.news as its all just drafts without you. I run a little too many projects at once and I kind of make first contact with humans these days :)

hi by the way i'm spacetimebird :)
totalnerd undercanada

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« #1 : 07-05-2020 00:04 »

So you want to take screencaps of Futurama to write a comic strip, somehow monetize this, and specifically exploit third-world countries as an economic resource for revenue streams. You'd pay people "as far as it's possible", exploit fair use laws with regard to intellectual property, and cloak yourself in the guise of a humanitarian to avoid prosecution.

You'd like people here to volunteer for this "project", and this is primarily because you're too busy with other scams to actually put any effort into doing it.

Did I miss anything?
spacetimebird

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« #2 : 07-06-2020 05:37 »
« : 07-06-2020 05:42 »

Yes you missed something - essentially everything.
Its not about any monetizing, it is about education. I mentioned ''pay'' because some designer, printer or programmer who could help the project might need/require payment - not me. I wouldn't utivize any money, not for lawsuits against me, not for personal interest. But its good to get a feedback that such attempt is ''identified'' as a scam as there is no trust left apparently ;)
Whether anyone will contribute any money has also nothing to do with third world exploitation, not sure how you were able to make this thematic jump. If there can be a cooperation with the license holders that would be great, again I have little time left because I work on many projects that aim to help. I can imagine that this is difficult to get.

The only acceptable model to regulate economic interaction is open and transparent (e.g. ICANN). As distribution of materials (books, comics) would obviously be free of charge their production would have to be financed, IF I could I would just do it myself. I definitly did not want to pose a source of anger to you or anyone else. I did not fund a company nor any other organization, I work as transparent as possible and the only way to interact economically is very much hidden except on my main page which is officially about me.

I do not want to exploit anyone I want to provide them with a new means of information (using futurama stories with contemporary content as side stories/explanation - e.g. educating about corona)
How do you come up with the idea that I work on any scams?
Why the negativity?
spacetimebird

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« #3 : 07-06-2020 09:33 »

Short update, I want to excuse to totalnerd undercanada :cry: as the previous layout of the domain was definitly not very clear nor helpful at all to see where I want to go with it. My mistake. I filtered the content and it should be more clear now.

You can share your opinion what content the domain should show in the future at http://futurama.news/elections/ There you can also vote whether you want someone else to manage the domain in which case they should hand in an official application however.

Yes - I work on many projects (all of which aim to make the world better) and because of that I lack/ed the time to develop more on this domain - I don't want to share a list here because I don't want to promote. In case you think I'm dishonest or that I attempt any kind of scam I will provide any proof that this is not the case.

About me, I work and research on multi-domain peacekeeping strategy and I would like to make art and drive projects such as the one I shared here. However I first must work on a way to make a living out of working for peace independent of organizations and nations which is not trivial (and not part of that what I wanted to share here). I mention that because it will be some time until I can work on less logical/formal aspects about peacekeeping such as specific projects. The idea around futurama.news can start already and that's why I wanted to share it here (for the first time) and I'm sorry to have caused such first impression.
totalnerd undercanada

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« #4 : 07-06-2020 10:07 »
« : 07-06-2020 10:09 »

Its not about any monetizing

Whether anyone will contribute any money has also nothing to do with third world exploitation, not sure how you were able to make this thematic jump.

There are so much more options, and as the dubbing is there and hence easy to translate, it could be communicated quiete simple to development countries as well... ...I'll take all legal consequences etc. we should have an empire within 2 or 3 months. we'll use all income for an open company concept... ...Everyone working on the project will get compensation as far its possible, but... ...we can make a kickstart for a green sweet viscous drink which has high protein, calory and vitamine additives. If we allocate fandom and act transparently humane, we can withstand or even cooperate with the branding and corporation issues.

You said you wanted to target developing countries. You mentioned an expanding "empire", a kickstarter, and the sidestepping of IP issues. You're clearly expecting a revenue stream, it sounds like you want other people to work on the accquisition of this revenue stream for you without being paid themselves.

As distribution of materials (books, comics) would obviously be free of charge their production would have to be financed

This sounds very much like you're asking people to give you money so that you can produce a comic strip composed of Futurama screencaps. Or, more accurately, it sounds like you're asking people to give you money so that you can do this, and at the same time asking people to do this for you, with no expectation that they be remunerated.


About me, I work and research on multi-domain peacekeeping strategy and I would like to make art and drive projects such as the one I shared here.

Buzzwords that add up to null meaning don't prove good intentions, and it very much sounds like you'd like to be some kind of organizer or manager of this "empire" you spoke of, rather than the producer of meaningful content.

However I first must work on a way to make a living out of working for peace independent of organizations and nations which is not trivial

This looks very much like an admission that you're looking for money.

I filtered the content and it should be more clear now.

What seems clear is that you'd like money, you think you can build an "empire" out of marketing energy drinks to third world kids using Futurama screencaps made into comics by unpaid volunteers as a guerilla marketing campaign, you're planning to exploit some fan-product or non-profit type loophole in fair use laws to avoid paying for the intellectual property you want to use, and you'd really like me to stop pointing this out.

You clearly joined PEEL to try to sucker people into contributing to your scam, and you're pretty clearly a shady character with questionable-at-best motives.
spacetimebird

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« #5 : 07-06-2020 11:13 »

I like a good discussion, and please dont stop to point out things that are not clear :D

However I am not certain if you're serious and want to understand me or if you are more interested in pointing out flaws in anothers expression or pose as a defender? Because I pose no danger and I agree that the choice of words in my original post was not great, lets say it was idiotic and the worst thing I could have posted. Can you forgive?
I was optimistic and energetic and I did not check if it could be misundestood under the light that it will be read by someone who knows nothing about what I do aside of that one domain

I see we are not on common grounds with some words and concepts so please let me make some things clear.

With the word 'empire' I refer to the futurama fan-base and community decisions. Its neither something I control nor intend to build or control. Its nothing I feel entitled to speak for nor do I claim to understand or infer what their motives and intentions are. I assumed however, that doing good, helping others and promoting futurama was a common goal. I would love to do that completely without economic interaction, to avoid confusion I do not like the idea of decision making that is not crowd sourced with opinions and information
With kickstarter and slurm bar I wanted to mention other ways/ideas how gamification could be used (by anyone) to make products, I would never lead or organize something like that when it's about something important (like education). The sole concept of kickstarter makes in my eyes no sense if its not organized by a group, and so in case you have any doubts you ar welcome to work together
I never intended nor intend to profit from this idea and I said that I will provide any reasonable evidence, hence please provide specific things you need to make your evaluation

Also, in general,
I share all my ideas in the hope that they can motivate others to follow their ideas and in case they think of my ideas as interesting, I'd be very grateful to cooperate on them
All I do is to propose ideas, if you are scared of a scam or monetization, you're welcome to manage and control all financial activities  :confused: So far there are none and there is also no option for any. What is your definition of a scam if there is no way to interact economically? I don't even show commercials on ANY of my 100+ domains.
As I only provide ideas, they are up for any correction, development and discussion. Likewise, you can just realize them if you know a better way. If you can logically prove that the idea as I describe it on the domain now is fundamentally flawed I will be grateful for that and stop dreaming about its realization.

Refering to your last post,

''What seems clear is that you'd like money''
- How do you come up with this conclusion? I asked for 'reporters' and by that definition you're already helping that idea. I also linked this discussion on the domain so everyone can see how its 'release' is processed by public (which is represented by you at the moment)

''you think you can build an "empire" out of marketing energy drinks to third world kids using Futurama screencaps made into comics by unpaid volunteers as a guerilla marketing campaign''
- No I think not that I can build any empire, and that is one way to misinterpret everything I wrote with word-wise framing. But I agree that the slurm idea was a bad one to mention in the context of corona-related educatory activities which have a different seriousness and (for me) urgency. I didn't even got the chance to elaborate my proposal before your apparent analysis and apparent exposition of me took the entire floor. That is okay, I myself prefer to point out things which I rate as suspicious instead of easily trusting or looking into something.

''you're planning to exploit some fan-product or non-profit type loophole in fair use laws to avoid paying for the intellectual property you want to use, and you'd really like me to stop pointing this out.''
- No I am neither planning that nor am I asking you to stop pointing out anything that can be misunderstood I'm thankful for your feedback. As I want to make my idea better and its representation more agreeable I am thankful for information what can go wrong with posting an idea and its obviously more then I anticipated.
IF you know of a way how I can dissociate myself from that idea immediately, leaving room for any proposal how you would approach it, please let me know. I Think of economy as a problem that can only be solved together.

''You clearly joined PEEL to try to sucker people into contributing to your scam, and you're pretty clearly a shady character with questionable-at-best motives.''
- That is a conclusion lacking any solid foundation. Im a completely transparent character as you can see on my work-related domains, which I will post here if given consent as they are not part of the futurama idea. To make clear that difference was the only reason why I mentioned my work. Are you working for something else then money? Because I found no other currency system that I can use for food. So yes, the domain where I publish my work is a request to be paid for continuing that what I do. If you don't know what I am working on and if you do not know what multi-domain warfare is you shouldn't judge people easily who try to contribute ideas how we can keep freedom and foster diversity. I mentioned my work because that is literally the only actual economic relation you can find in the internet to me. And in case you should be able to find it at all, I explain there my work and nothing else.

I joined PEEL to connect to others because I love futurama. I also wanted to share the idea to produce futurama content for education purposes. Any notion of economics was made to prevent a wrong impression - i do not want money and I do not want control of any kind of empire, I am just very happy that the futurama fan base exists and it allowed me a sensation to be not isolated. I see at least in your eyes, that was inappropriate.

I shared an idea, it has no strings attached to anything. You are free and welcome to realize it yourself totalnerd undercanada its in no way bound to me. Which makes me wonder where the conspiracy-mindset and hate comes from, but I do not want to fight. I love futurama and I thought this might be an idea that could 1. Help beings 2. Revive futurama in mainstream.

Do you want me to send you a link to my work so you can evaluate whether your claim is true that I contribute nothing and that multi-domain peacekeeping is just a buzzword?

I realize that I should have been more specific - I was not in work-mode as futurama is one of my few hobbies and I hence wrote in a less logical and formal fashion.

I can understand why you have doubts about motives of someone you do not know. I am sorry for the choice of words which clearly made things appear horribly wrong to you.

- If you are up for audio chat to discuss I would be very happy as a resolution appears to be difficult this way. I will however do my best to write and answer, I did not use the quote function because i am new to the form and its software and I hope that we can resolve this misunderstanding without a word-by-word analysis but through common sense and honesty.
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