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Oh dang, more Swedes! I blame you, Archonix!
Archonix, this is my exact problem with Swedish: Redundancy. They have already used the article 'den' (highlighting it is a definitive noun), and applying an adjective, in this case 'svenska' (Swedish) to the noun, 'Futurama-gruppe'. The problem here is, that both 'gruppen' and 'den' highlights it is a definitive noun. Yes, Swedish, we already got the point when you started using your own definitive article, we are not that stupid.
Norwegian has the same problem. Even in their national anthem; 'Ja, vi elsker dette landet'. 'Dette landet'? What's with the redundancy!? Wasn't it clear enough to begin with?
That, and the fact that Norwegian and Swedish people sound terribly boring and uninteresting when they speak.
However, at any rate, welcome to PEEL. Though, not sure how many Swedes occupies this landscape.
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Svip
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What you cal redundancy they might call emphasis.
Emphasis should only be used in some cases (like there), not as a general rule in grammar! If they call it 'emphasis', then they are sillier than I thought they were. Check it up with that Swede of yours!
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Wiidiot
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Oh dang, more Swedes! I blame you, Archonix!
Archonix, this is my exact problem with Swedish: Redundancy. They have already used the article 'den' (highlighting it is a definitive noun), and applying an adjective, in this case 'svenska' (Swedish) to the noun, 'Futurama-gruppe'. The problem here is, that both 'gruppen' and 'den' highlights it is a definitive noun. Yes, Swedish, we already got the point when you started using your own definitive article, we are not that stupid.
Norwegian has the same problem. Even in their national anthem; 'Ja, vi elsker dette landet'. 'Dette landet'? What's with the redundancy!? Wasn't it clear enough to begin with?
That, and the fact that Norwegian and Swedish people sound terribly boring and uninteresting when they speak.
However, at any rate, welcome to PEEL. Though, not sure how many Swedes occupies this landscape.
What's with the hatin'? Also, are you Danish or do you just live in Denmark? 'Cause Danish people sound a hell of a lot more boring when they speak. In fact, they sound like they have porridge stuck in their throat and they're really angry about it! Norwegians on the other hand, sound happy all the time, even when they are angry. Swedes? We're somewhere in the middle! "Landet Lagom" However, thank you. And no, there doesn't seem to be many Swedes here...
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I was trying comedy. But it seemed to have failed on the audience.
Seriously, can you people get a better 'joke' than the 'potato in throat' one? I am even using it myself!
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LobsterMooch
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Don't get me started. The Finns have the most monotonous sentence structure ever. When a Finn asks a question the emphasis goes down. Very difficult to sound like a Finn especially when asking a question.
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Comparing Finnish and Swedish is like comparing apples and steak. Sure, they are both edible, but their origins are completely different, and different in structure. But in the end, serves the same purpose: Consumption.
Finnish is a Finno-Ugric language, not an Indo-European language like Swedish and Danish, and hell French, Persian and English too.
Finnish have several advantages over Germanic languages, but also have some downsides. But since Swedish and Danish are so closely related, they are easy enough to seriously compare.
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LobsterMooch
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« Reply #8 on: 11-19-2009 17:59 »
« Last Edit on: 11-19-2009 18:15 »
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No comparison intended. When I studied Finnish (bah) I too learned ie's history and origins. No articles in Finnish and no prepositions because the nouns are modified there is no such phrase as in the car, it's autossa or go to Helsinki it's menee Helsingiin.The grammar is a killer. Finnish is also related to Estonian, but this is no surprise as only a small body of water separates them.
This is one reason Finland is considered Nordic but not Scandinavian.
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Wiidiot
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Why are we discussing Nordic languages?? That's not at all what this thread was supposed to be about!
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LobsterMooch
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Why are we discussing Nordic languages?? That's not at all what this thread was supposed to be about!
It's called OFF TOPIC and it happens all the time. Especially when nobody gives a toss about the original intent.
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Wiidiot
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Why are we discussing Nordic languages?? That's not at all what this thread was supposed to be about!
It's called OFF TOPIC and it happens all the time. Especially when nobody gives a toss about the original intent.
I know what it's called :P
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Svip
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Check the URL. It's not rocket science.
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Good curse it? What?
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This is why I hate being Scandinavian.
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There is also this pretty big Futurama group on facebook. I think (hope) it's still the biggest one on there. Why? Because I created it. Thank you and goodnight
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