The Infosphere - New server!

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I realise there is already an Infosphere related topic, but that was on a specific issue.  This topic shall remain more general.

But first of all, let me inform you of the good news.  Since its humble beginnings, the Infosphere have had issues with its placement, especially due to increase size and visitor flockings.  Indeed, the Infosphere have demanded more from its host than most other Futurama related sites.

For these reasons, the Infosphere have changed hosts on several occasions, but they have always felt 'temporary', and not until now have the Infosphere found its true home.

A virtual machine purchased in the German Hexonet (so it is hosted in the same country as PEEL and CGEF, how you like them bananas?), with enough firepower to maintain this lone wiki for all its needs.

In addition to that, the data centre grants us (or more specifically; me) full control for a Debian 4.0 machine, so now any down time can be fully blamed on me.  I hope to keep it in the five nines.

However, such a commodity does not come cheap.  In fact, 33EUR per month with taxes.  So, we are currently looking for people, among other entities, willing to donate for the future of the Infosphere.

The new IP for the Infosphere is now:  88.80.201.89.  So either, cache refresh your DNS or edit your hosts file.

Alternatively, the new site can be found at fut.sviip.dk

And how do you know you're on the new site?  The big notice at the top!

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The Infosphere.org

For details see: http://theinfosphere.org/Infosphere:Conference_Table#New_Server.21

[Reply #1 on:]

Normally, I wouldn't double post, but everyone was doing it, I just wanted to be popular!

Apparently, we are somewhat popular right now;

http://theinfosphere.org/Infosphere:Conference_Table#We.27re_on_Wikipedia.21

Indeed:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Infosphere

[Reply #2 on:]

Nice job on that double post there SVIP
I really like the new server you've got there, very orange.

[Reply #3 on:]

Just thought I should update you people on our new design we (I mean me) are working on:


More information on the image

More information: http://theinfosphere.org/Table:Reskinning%3F

By the way, anyone willing to try it out early and common on issues, may go to http://new.theinfosphere.org/ , change their theme in Preferences under Appearance (which may appear odd in the Monobook skin) to Vector.

Warning, however: new.theinfosphere.org uses different software than the regular wiki, and your preference will not be compatible with the other wiki's software.  So the other wikis may appear odd to you afterwards.  Not to worry though, the intend is for new.theinfosphere.org to replace the regular wiki eventually.

[Reply #4 on:]

Apparently, we are somewhat popular right now;

http://theinfosphere.org/Infosphere:Conference_Table#We.27re_on_Wikipedia.21

Indeed:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Infosphere

"This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference."

[Reply #5 on:]

Apparently, we are somewhat popular right now;

http://theinfosphere.org/Infosphere:Conference_Table#We.27re_on_Wikipedia.21

Indeed:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Infosphere

"This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference."

Old news.  I even voted for the deletion of the page on Wikipedia.  I do not believe we are yet mature enough to be mentioned on Wikipedia - unfortunately.

[Reply #6 on:]

More double posting!

As I have now updated the skin for our wiki.  If you have an account, be sure to change your skin to "Vector" in your preferences.

http://theinfosphere.org/

[Reply #7 on:]

interesting new skin, but there's no lines in the top to see the tabs, and also, the tabs have a lot of height for some reason

[Reply #8 on:]

interesting new skin, but there's no lines in the top to see the tabs, and also, the tabs have a lot of height for some reason

The height is due to the fact that search bar is now on the same level.  I assume an additional reason is because the Vector skin uses gradient lines in its usual skin, so the tabs do not seem so high usually.

I am personally on both sides when it comes to top borders.  I personally think the high lines make up for the lack of top borders.  And I like the flow from the content into the background.  On the other hand, it could be used for non-active tabs, i.e. tabs not being the current page.

Here is how the Vector skin would look without modifications.

[Reply #9 on:]

I see, but in the original vector skin the lines of the tabs fade into the white bg (because the lines are actually images).. perhaps the lines in the infosphere should fade into the dark blue of the bg, that way it would look better and the height of the tabs will be unnoticeable.

[Reply #10 on:]

I see, but in the original vector skin the lines of the tabs fade into the white bg (because the lines are actually images).. perhaps the lines in the infosphere should fade into the dark blue of the bg, that way it would look better and the height of the tabs will be unnoticeable.

I might consider it.  For now - however - I believe it won't hurt that much to look into this when I have the time.

[Reply #11 on:]

By the way - does your respected Infosphere have anything to do with this site - www.theinfosphere.ru? Your offspring, maybe? Knowing Russian better than English, I couldn't help noticing they have much in common.))

ps. And many thanks to comrade Mini-me for completing the IWGY transcript!

[Reply #12 on:]

I was unaware of them. I was aware of another English Infosphere that's a forum, but that one's new to me, I don't think it's a wiki... is it? I really like that rotating Infosphere on their homepage though.

[Reply #13 on:]

Yeah, their content is from ours.

Example.  Here is the transcript of "Space Pilot 3000" on theirs: 

http://www.theinfosphere.ru/transcripts/%D0%A2%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BF%D1%82_%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%9F%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%82_3000

And now, compare that to ours:

http://theinfosphere.org/Transcript:Space_Pilot_3000

I know, what you're thinking - transcripts are transcripts, we got them from The Neutral Planet back in the day.  True, but notice how this transcript has time stamps on theirs (and ours), but our second episode transcript does not and as a result, neither does theirs:

http://theinfosphere.org/Transcript:The_Series_Has_Landed
http://www.theinfosphere.ru/transcripts/%D0%A2%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BF%D1%82_%D0%A1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B0%D0%BB_%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%81%D1%8F

For the record; we are not affiliated with this website - neither did we know it exists.  But its content is obviously a copy of our content (and translated to Russian).

I think it would only be appropriate to contact its webmaster.

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Closer inspection and it is very similar. I recognise some of the images too.

[Reply #15 on:]

Damn thieving Russians! They stole our Hydrogen bomb and now they're stealing our cartoon trivia!

[Reply #16 on:]

Soon enough, they'll be stealing the whole Infosphere! Those thieving traitors! Contact them with hate mail, spam their inbox until they take it all down!


But in all seriousness, is it that hard to make your own website...your own?

[Reply #17 on:]

@Quolnok and Svip:
Well, I like your site and the appearance of 2nd Infosphere, generally based on the same principles, same content... made me think it's kind of franchise maybe whynot )) But they have that rotating thing and fan-art section added, so at least it is not the exact copy...))

@coldangel_1
Being Russian myself, I can only say that being of certain nation is among the least important reasons which make a person to steal. So I find your words quite shovinistic, sir!

[Reply #18 on:]

I thought it was the Aussies who were thieving criminals anyway.....

[Reply #19 on:]

@Beck: He was-nope, not even gonna bother...

[Reply #20 on:]

Hah... for fuck's sake. Was he trying to say 'chauvinistic'?

Beck I wasn't being even remotely serious. Get off your patriotic soapbox.

[Reply #21 on:]

I thought it was the Aussies who were thieving criminals anyway.....

Hey, I've never stolen anything!

Well, maybe once.

[Reply #22 on:]

He-he.
@coldangel_1: Yeah, that's the correct word, thanx.
Of course I understand you were not serious. Are you ever at all?

There is another thing concerning stealing which comes to my mind though - take these episodes' transcripts for example - these guys took them from theinfosphere, who took them from TNP, who... hmm... took them from FOX.

In no way I'm defending those "theinfosphere.ru" guys (or FOX), but wasn't the stuff they steal kind of "stolen" already?

[Reply #23 on:]

Are you ever at all?

I was once in 1999. But I got better.

[Reply #24 on:]

There is another thing concerning stealing which comes to my mind though - take these episodes' transcripts for example - these guys took them from theinfosphere, who took them from TNP, who... hmm... took them from FOX.

In no way I'm defending those "theinfosphere.ru" guys (or FOX), but wasn't the stuff they steal kind of "stolen" already?

If I were to recite an entire episode from memory (which I probably could) in the middle of the street, is that stealing?

All transcripts are for is back checking and reference, there is absolutely no way you could do anything evil with them.

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If I were to recite an entire episode from memory (which I probably could) in the middle of the street, is that stealing?

What do you think? Ask those greedy ugly FOX lawyers maybe? Remember, several years ago they somehow managed to close a number of fan-sites, which didn't do anything evil too...

Hmm, I was brought up in the USSR, where noone ever cared of any copyrights, intellectual properties and such, but I thought you mighty capitalists might know better. Just have a look at the bottom of this very page:

"Futurama" TM and copyright FOX, its related entities and the Curiosity Company. All rights reserved. Any reproduction, duplication or distribution of these materials in any form is expressly prohibited.

Isn't that supposed to cover the transcripts too?

[Reply #26 on:]

It's just a formality, really.

[Reply #27 on:]

So, Svip, maybe now you can say that theinfosphere.ru fellows are actually very nice, polite and non-stealing guys, and you even got their button at  your 'sphere?

In yer face, coldangel_1!

[Reply #28 on:]

Hell with that, those Russkies killed my father.

[Reply #29 on:]

Coldy they've got your wife too!

[Reply #30 on:]

Coldy they've got your wife too!

Ugh, now I feel sorry for them.

[Reply #31 on:]

Hell with that, those Russkies killed my father.

Yeah, during that Internet debate, by sending him a testicular cancer virus?
See, the Big Brother is watching you!

[Reply #32 on:]

I believe what actually happened was that his Father was kicked in the testicles by several Russians which caused him to get testicular cancer... Whatever happened to Super Hans?

[Reply #33 on:]

He's been......dealt with. 

[Reply #34 on:]

Ah, I suspected as much...

[Reply #35 on:]

If there is ever a day where I don't post at least once, send out a search party.

[Reply #36 on:]

Only if you quote an Audio commentary again.

[Reply #37 on:]

It was a glass car, it ran on "Glassoline"

[Reply #38 on:]

Will do!

[Reply #39 on:]

So it turns out I know the guy who runs infosphere.ru. Either a freaky coincidence or the internet needs to be about five times bigger than it already is.